Send it to Hardtail Party! Let him go over it and check it out. Loads of modern hardtail experience. Might be able give some good fine tune feedback and has recently be through the design, proto, production process
@liamwouters48762 жыл бұрын
This, steve would probably be down to check this out
@jimjigga2 жыл бұрын
Don't send it to hardtail party. It's your bike
@bebopman52 жыл бұрын
PLEASE! The external rear brake would be a godsend. That’s my only dislike of the Redwood. There’s zip ties on mine right now because of the reason you stated.
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
5:00 if you criss cross the brake/mech hoses/cable exiting this hole, then put really tight zip ties on the first mount you will get more tyre clearance to the cables. I had a factory 2.3" tyre buzz thru my brakes this year. Once you tweak the rim slightly you'll lose brakes in 1 km or less.
@Likelybiking2 жыл бұрын
I def love the top mounted rear brake caliper! So easy to tinker!
@cheut2 жыл бұрын
If Poseidon is committing to the machined dropouts that bolt onto the chainstay/seatstay, then you should just have separate dropouts for 27.5 and 29. With the 29 having a longer effective chainstay length so you can maintain chainring clearance. Plus you'd be able to manipulate the bb drop so it works better for each wheelsize. With a 29/27.5 swappable bike, a 29 100mm fork with 29" wheels will have about the same stack as a 140mm 27.5 setup. So you could have a 29 xc bike and 27.5 trail bike all in one with swappable rear dropout things, whatever you call them. The brake mount would probably have to be attached to the dropout things though and not the frame.
@mattd78142 жыл бұрын
Good call on mounting the rear caliper on top of the seat stay instead of between the chainstay and seatstay. Also makes it easier to upgrade to larger rear rotors. For the rear brake hose routing external is fine but centered zip tie bosses on the bottom of the top tube would be sweet so it would also work well with moto style brakes (rear brake lever on the left), or if it ends up internal double ports on both side would be sweet!
@mike_wottawa2 жыл бұрын
The external routing looks amazing and well thought out. Also that frame screams 29er wheels. I still think that full hydrolic may be the way to go for the small price incease. I am so down to get this when it goes into production
@andyamos85942 жыл бұрын
29 x 2.4....yep! And a gold star for the rear brake mounting with the cable going down! So many current bikes have the cable going up, a water entry hot spot if you don't run hydraulics. One last thing....Being me, I'd add another boss for adjusting water bottle mounting 😁
@darrenmurray57872 жыл бұрын
Riding in style is all about the paint 👌🏻
@MrLouDoo2 жыл бұрын
It looks sick with the 29's on it. Will there be room for 2.6" tires at 29?
@twowheelsforlife2 жыл бұрын
Geo looks on point!
@davidburgess7412 жыл бұрын
You might have coaxed me out of my N+1 drought! It has everything I would have requested and a bit more. Needs to have the Norton headbadge.
@ultragucci2 жыл бұрын
Here are some things I would change: 1. Shorten the head tube as much as possible. When swapping forks or getting used forks, many people cut their steerer tubes down and looking at the head tube on the bike, it seems long by a good 2cm which can make a big difference when shopping for a used fork. 2. Bottle mounts. Add at least 2 or three more sets. On the seat tube, under the top tube near the seat tube, on top of the top tube near the steerer tube. This is to mount accessories, tools, mounts to carry tubes, pumps, bags, etc. Adding mounts eliminates the need for straps around the frame. Do this on all frame sizes, not just medium and large. 3. ISCG 05 tabs. I am not sure if they are on there, but having the option to run a top guide, lower bash or full chain guide is a big plus. 4. Shorten the chainstays. If you rework the junction between the chainstays and the BB you can still have room for 29er wheels. 5. Include an extra derailleur hanger with the bike. 6. if you do not include a dropper post, include a QUALITY seat quick release so that people and raise and lower their seats with ease. 7. Ensure that a 200mm rotor will fit on the rear of the bike. 8. Have two options for rear brake hose routing. External on the top tube, seat stay and internal. 9. Consider having two options for the rear shift cable as well. Given the smooth straight line of the top tube to the seat stay, putting dual hose tabs on the under side of the top tube, the line will stay clean and cable/hose routing is simple and quick to access. 10. A rubber molded chain stay protector to keep the bouncing chain totally silent would be nice. Good luck
@tomatostakefabrik94292 жыл бұрын
I love the attention to swap and mods ie 29" wheel option. You are really checking all the boxes for ppl to up grade and change the bike to what they want. Awesome ride
@senorspiegel2 жыл бұрын
Yay! A MTB designed by a bike mechanic and rider! This all resonates with me, except for that fucking color haha
@MTBAlex2 жыл бұрын
8:00 please change that Bend on the chain stay
@trentwilliams19842 жыл бұрын
You deserve many more subs !
@mikeanderson99772 жыл бұрын
another way to achieve the 2 wheel sizes, with less compromises, is have swappable drop outs. Would just take modifiying the brake side... chainstay gets longer and more BB drop for 29". you can now have the short chainstay on the 27.5 set up as well.
@aaronmacdougall96312 жыл бұрын
So glad to see another budget entry into the hardcore hardtail market. Trek should have released a bare bones Roscoe 6 that was based off of the new frame instead of recycling last gens. Especially now that the CAD price is up to $2199 for the 7.
@joshuabear77352 жыл бұрын
Thanks and Shalom for turning me on to Marino bikes. This bike looks amazing broh much love. You shredded that Canadian Shield cross country amazing test ground
@108mmbb2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for this bike to be released. I think this is going to be the new bike for me.
@kidb0o2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Poseidon will sell this bike in Germany, too 🥺 it seems to be the perfect place to start a seriously cool hardtail project! Great stuff!
@nathanalley60122 жыл бұрын
Any chance this will be available as a frame only option it fixes the one thing I don't like about my hardtail that is boost rear spacing but with a quick release.
@mwillemsen552 жыл бұрын
Every video of the Norton bike that gets uploaded i get more and more keen to buy one as my first intro to modern mtbing!! hopefully these will be sold in Australia?
@thebr0wnhornet2 жыл бұрын
Looks good, might need one
@Tony-5082 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree the shifting cable is great internally routed but brake would be amazing externally. Is the bb shell 68mm or 73mm or something else? Moving to a wider bb shell would help with clearance for the 29er wheels. It keeps getter better and better great work.
@tag24greg652 жыл бұрын
I usually have no interest in modern bikes as I like to tinker with my old stuff hence why I like this channel so much but I do like the thought process behind this. This one could be the one to persuade me to buy new again!
@danielspicer49382 жыл бұрын
The hanger is a bit disappointing. Would be nice to see something like the SRAM universal hanger so it can be found in just about every shop and replaced cheaply.
@keven-matthewlarrivee-font26782 жыл бұрын
The fact that this has rear boost thru axle is such a win! I ended up with a Rockrider XC100 as it was the only budget hardtail (xc) that had this at its price
@craftyukraine2 жыл бұрын
Adding external brake cable mounts is a good idea indeed!😎👍🏻
@bambicyclejerk9522 жыл бұрын
The framset is looking awesome. Will definitely be looking into on of these when available. If available to the UK?
@glennpettersson90022 жыл бұрын
The gap at the bottom of the down tube must an industry standard, my 22' Giant Cross City is the same. To have a birds eye view on the R & D is really interesting, will you be trying a mullet set up?
@shane92852 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric are there going to be any steel versions of the Norton?
@NonLegitNation27 ай бұрын
I ordered the Poseidon Norton frame last week. Received it a few days ago to discover the top of the headtube was dented in so I couldn't insert the top headset bearings. Poseidon is sending a replacement frame for free but unfortunately, I am having to send the damaged frame back, wait for them to inspect it, and then they will ship out the replacement frame and in the meantime, I don't have a bike to ride. I'm kind of angry that they aren't just shipping the frame out immediately. I don't suppose you can use some of your pull to get them to ship out the frame immediately. They'll know who I am when you mention the dented headtube.
@thevapingpolisher97172 жыл бұрын
I have 0 problems with cables on the out side of frame , boost spacing is prefect. What’s going to be the color options not a fan of yellow lol
@YoungDoug132 жыл бұрын
FRIENDS!!
@underbikedoverconfident11422 жыл бұрын
It looks good as a 29er. I think giving people the option to use what I assume will be 29 or 27.5 up to plus tire size is good from a consumer perspective.
@psclassy11232 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great bike not to overdone as a cross country or down country.
@williamscott7912 жыл бұрын
Hey I had a question on the Poseidon redwood drop bar if you put a 700c skinny tires on it would it be as fast or faster than the Poseidon x and when's that new hardtail coming out from Poseidon
@skyroach71582 жыл бұрын
Rear brake routing comment here. I’m also a total home mechanic hack. I taught myself to poorly bleed hydraulic brakes. I upgraded the brakes on my MTB and first thing I did was cut the rear brake hose down to size even though it was pre-bled. I’m not saying route the rear brake external for this reason, but my take is folks who are gonna install a rear brake themselves are going to be able to bleed it as well. I don’t know. I’m honestly torn on external vs internal on the rear brake. End ramble.
@skyroach71582 жыл бұрын
Also, I really need to know more about the mechanical disc brakes on this bike. The levers look crazy crazy sketch. One finger braking is probably one of the best upgrades I’ve made that’s improved my ability on aggressive terrain so I’m personally sensitive to crappy brakes.
@stephenshepherd50682 жыл бұрын
Please lower the bottom bracket, make it 29er compatible and use the SRAM UDH.
@jordanblack3342 жыл бұрын
is the xcm 34 a coil fork? if so I'd recomend trying to spec the bike out with at least suntours cheapest air fork before thinking about adding a dropper to the stock build. I'm assuming the pricepoint this bike will be at will put it competing with the vitus nucleus and the air fork is what helps set it apart from most other hardtails in the pricerange. but otherwise geometry, boost spacing, tapered headtube, and through axles are all good and necessary choices.
@CoolDRMONEY20022 жыл бұрын
No sliding rear drop??
@maritimezombie76842 жыл бұрын
Thats cool and all but can it be turned into a Gravel bike?
@amadayoubi83032 жыл бұрын
Would this come in multicolor? My vote is for the yellow
@TryboBike2 жыл бұрын
If you added a removable dropouts on both sides then the bike could be easily convertible to 142x12 or 148x12 ( or 157x12 ) and 27.5/27.5+/29 wheels. Also - a bike without an ability to run 38T ring ( or a double ring front ) is useless for me. But that is my preference, I guess.
@psclassy11232 жыл бұрын
Can you run non plus 27.5 tires ??
@livefreeandshred98182 жыл бұрын
Make it fit 29 wheels. Use sram UDH hanger. Bing bang boom
@007peter2 жыл бұрын
How far along, are U still βeta Testing the design? or has the casting mold for the frame been finalized?
@matthewbarr87172 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit slow and frequently wrong but I have also worked as an industrial mechanic and will never understand the point of putting grease on the outside of a sealed bearing like you did with your headset. All that does is make contaminants that make their way into the head tube stick to the outside of the bearing. Please explain.
@mellissanash75172 жыл бұрын
Will it be 2.6 max for both tire sizes or will you want it to be 27.5x3.0 and 29x2.5? Would be real cool if it can fit at least 29x2.5 in the back for everyone or 2.6 for those of us in the dessert.
@GeekonaBike2 жыл бұрын
If U put sliding rear dropouts on the production one, those 29ers will go in No Prob.
@qualm432 жыл бұрын
I have a 63° head angle bike and I dont even want to ride it. Feels floppy, doesnt want to charge, and the fox 36 fork doesnt function smoothly due to the slack angle. Yuck. 67° is the sweet spot IMO.
@jordanblack3342 жыл бұрын
what kind of trails do you ride? i have a 63 degree ht angle hardtail and it rides just fine when its pointed downhill. if its on a oldschool XC trail yeah its cumbersome but ive never fel likethe fork doesnt wor right. 65 degrees for this bike will be fine.
@noburt92 жыл бұрын
I have the X frameset, and I'm excited about it. But I'm a little put off. When I ordered it, it was missing a few things, thankfully I got those things. But I also do not have clear coat on the frame. So my frame was scratched the second it touched the air basically. Does anyone else have any experience with that stuff? I thought maybe it just doesn't come with a clear coat. But I can clearly see it on this frame, and my brother got an X, and he has a clearcoat. Although he seems to have had a few mishaps with his bike from the factory. Anyone else have any experience? Are we just incredibly unlucky? This mountain bike looks amazing, and looks like it honestly could be my next mountain bike, but I'm just worried to get it because of the issues my brother and I have both had with our X
@mattd78142 жыл бұрын
FIENDS!!!
@boatbikemike85712 жыл бұрын
They should make this bike the only one allowed in high school racing in the US
@vuevuevue20022 жыл бұрын
ok, so if it's not gonna be in the 500-700 range then i hope it's available as a frame.
@rockjunkie16992 жыл бұрын
another vote against the external routing
@TheBassman3962 жыл бұрын
Still say it needs spindatt branding on it when it goes to market, don’t disappoint me or I will put one of your stickers on a bike you don’t like
@mazescopak4052 жыл бұрын
Norton head badge would be cool
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
4:58 oh they went the trek/merida style internal hole. Bugger that frame is a pass for me. My marlin BB is too flexy, I'm not a fan of this "not welding 30% of the downtube" trend that saves them 10 minutes while assembling
@Palmer900T2 жыл бұрын
The flex is because it's a Marlin, not because of how it's welded.
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
@@Palmer900T they don't weld the entire tube junction, look at the timestamp. Its the current manufacturing shortcut.
@Palmer900T2 жыл бұрын
@@janeblogs324 I am aware. That said, my previous statement regarding the flex of the Marlin stands
@geo61112 жыл бұрын
Depending on price I'd rather have hydro brakes over a dropper
@dvs6202 жыл бұрын
A $500ish bike with thru axle dropouts and boost spacing? Seriously man, I was looking at hardtail that cost 3x-4x as much and I can just buy this instead.
@mjeffcunningham2 жыл бұрын
Hi.
@allanridesbikes58562 жыл бұрын
Norton is more of a floof tail than a hardtail
@IAMLUJAYMS2 жыл бұрын
yey im early
@dominicanfueled2 жыл бұрын
You need more time in the beginning with the message, and how dare you not yell FRIENDS!!!!!!
@albertjefrajer23042 жыл бұрын
not a friend of the outside cable routing
@senorspiegel2 жыл бұрын
I am!
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
I hate cutting my rear brake hose and re oliving it every time I need to remove it