Possible Total War:Warhammer Factions Skaven Army Unites

[@houyi3982]

"The Skaven have 32 different words for friendly fire"

[@krzalsyrnkyril2953]

that's two more than Orcs and Gobs darn !

[@purplefood1]

+Krzalsyrn Kyril Orcs would probably join in a fight instead of shooting into one XD

[@darthplagueis13]

Well... As long as there is a boss or a unit of Black Orcs nearby the Boyz will remain quite disciplined and avoid killing their allies. However, without such a attendance they are likely to use the opportunity to settle old scores with this Big´Un over there...

[@purplefood1]

Darthplagueis13 The joke is they'd rather fight face to face as opposed to shooting thus their lack of words for friendly fire.

[@daswordofgork9823]

Your definition is antics! Especially with Hitler in your case.

[@Buzzy_Bland]

Arch: “Warpfire throwers in a unit of 4, Rat Ogres in a unit of 60.” CA: “Warpfires in a unit of 32, Ogres in a unit of 12.

[@notinspectorgadget]

The fuck are you three talking about?

[@angry_zergling]

@@otisaldo4178 Lies. Lame.

[@dragonkingofthestars]

warp locks are poor shots? I seem to remember a story of a Skaven sniper shooting a dwarf though his telescope and then other dwarfs kept picking the scope up to look though because "of course the rat men can't have a gun that can shoo this far!" and of course, they too got shot as well.

[@aleksjamnik5360]

Well the elit are elit cuz they are better then the rest not cuz they are of fimiliar skill

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Stormvermin patrols are the second scariest thing in Vermintide on Hard and up!!

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

I would actually prefer two 2-hour videos, please.

[@captainthorrek262]

My favorite thing about this pair of videos is how Arch pretty much goes off on how much he loves Skaven through his descriptions. Then you understand how well a job he did, when he gets into the units and you see all the times he uses *misfire* as "misfire"... maybe it's wasn't as much of an accident as the Skaven would want you to believe. I can see an Engineer's first priority in being able to have a secret setting for "accidentally" mowing down potential rivals. Great vid!

[@l00rd1]

I just love this reference "Skaven slaves are like the average French soldier he wants to run from battle as far as he can " :D Shots were made

[@SSVjoker]

All in all (and except for the clan Skryre stuff, I'm still angry about that not being there), I'd say CA made a pretty good job with the Skaven

[@invaderHUNK]

SSVjoker same, they’re massive blobs of cute and fluffy rats that encircle and murderize. Hoardy, but still unique in everything that compliments ‘em.

[@Khobotov]

skaven slaves = french soldiers XD, that made my day

[@kvchikka]

I'm sure the skaven is one just metaphor for france

[@Cultureghost]

+Kv Chikka I thought that was bretonnia

[@NothingYouHaventReadBefore]

They're mostly a comparison to the old Arthurian lore and French knightly lore.

[@Killerzerg117]

Khobotov a happy angry marine......isn't that like dividing by zero? The universe will explode!

[@WatcherOfShadows]

Khobotov And France surrenders.

[@sylentlight6771]

Ugh.... Warp lightning cannon.... I WANT to love it, it just looks so amazing! However, in the 10+ matches where I have fielded it, it has successfully shot (without blowing itself up) twice... TWICE! And only one of those times did it actually hit anything! Pretty sure my dice hate me.

[@lordvarrax5060]

Yeah the first Skaven weapons I got (Ratling Gun and Warp Lightning Cannon) managed to blow themselves up in the first game I played with them, leaving my army with no real way to kill my opponent’s remaining two Demigryph Knights, who proceeded to slaughter my weak army.

[@peterjoyfilms]

Ratling gun. I love it.

[@ArchYouTube]

Of courese you do! It's magical!

[@codyarcher3263]

Arch Warhammer arch I ont think you explained all the trifolds isnt that the symbol of nurgle

[@Askethanoras]

+Peter Joy ''ratatatatatataaaaa*

[@Askethanoras]

The Stoned Videogame Nerd isnt't the triskellion celtic

[@matthiasweber9554]

Get him working for Total war Warhammer

[@nightofraven]

+CONS WEBER i agree!?!?!

[@WYCD]

+CONS WEBER I absolutely agree. I was just thinking that Arch really should be hired as a consultant.

[@UKOGBN]

I'm not sure that's really needed since CA is not working alone on this stuff right I'm sure they actually talk to GW now and again

[@hatientacetlen4246]

if the skaven are in total war then I will spend whatever they want.

[@joergenmaster5347]

Damn i love these videos, they have been occuping every waking moment off my life, ever since i heard of total war warhammer. going through this extremly messy lore is extremly intriguing. I can only imagine how frustrating deciphering the lore must be and i thank you for doing it :) Hei fra Norge!

[@illequine]

Been enjoying your videos for a few months now Arch, i gotta say, i enjoy the long ranty videos as they are always more informative, and tbh it's good when you rip on the end times too :)

[@etetomte]

I really hope that a CA employee sees this video, Amazing ideas!

[@MrBarnett420]

These videos are awesome man!! Especially for someone who loves Total War games but isnt familiar with the Warhammer universe, these videos definitely help understand the back story for each faction and i cant believe how many there are especially considering each race is broken down into tribes and factions im so excited to learn and play Total War in this universe that i wish theyd release the first game and hurry up and move onto what is supposed to be north and south America, Africa, and Asia so we can see and play as some other factions, im sooo psyched to play as the Empire, Greenskins and ESPECIALLY the Vampire Counts!!!! Lol but like i said you do an awesome job of giving an overview of factions to understand how they work and i love that you break down the armies and units too. Lol

[@shawnhyde5251]

Liked for the warp lightning cannon. I'm beginning to see why you love the scaven.

[@sampassmore196]

your vids are amazing i am going to wright to CA about you and how they should use you for ideas

[@btnhnwa1996]

just subbed, these videos are a highlight in my weeks, I'd love to see more!

[@rhemorigher]

*Squeaks happily*

[@xemcx]

hahaha the french soldier comparison. poor french army

[@BVargas78]

xemcx Heh, they werent that bad to be fair. A lot of them did stand their ground and died.

[@xemcx]

BVargas78 i know, too bad. if you would go back 200 years they would have won against germany single handed and if you would go back a couple of hundred years more they were just insanely strong military wise. there was a time were they fought off several coolitionwars in a row and won all of them against mayor europe countrys at the time.

[@willmitchell2450]

Well 5/7, not quite all. Even then though they were fighting with some Germans, Italians and polish. But k agree they have one of the best military records of any nation

[@danielwhitt6435]

+Ghostcamel id much rather be attacked by nazis...

[@willmitchell2450]

daniel whitt i would'nt

[@Antepollimose]

Hope CA hire you as a Warhammer consultant, in the making of Warhammer total war ;) Are you gonna make a video about Bretonnia? Love their knights! GG

[@ArchYouTube]

Britannia is on the way but they are a bit far out as atm the schedule looks like this Orcs, Empire, Lizardmen then the shinning knights of Britannia so sadly you have a bit of a wait :( waaaaaaait Britannia? god damn auto correct! I mean Bretonnia ofc....

[@emprahsfinest7092]

The faction of the skaven should be divided into 3 sub-factions, Moulder, Skyre, and Pestilens. I think that the most likely factions to be introduced in the next to expansions are elves, and then either the skaven, tomb kings, or chaos (with dwarves as a sub faction of chaos maybe)

[@krzalsyrnkyril2953]

woot woot and clan Eshin my good sir ?

[@trrebi981]

Krzalsyrn Kyril They can be the spies essentially.

[@James-sk4db]

Heinz Guderian they said each game, of the trilogy announced, was stand alone but if bought together they combine the maps so I'm a guessing next game will be bretonia, skaven, wood elves, tilea or estalian Then final game will be new world and high elves, albion perhaps and maybe tomb kings too

[@AEBeyers]

A cool dynamic would be to have all units be either Slaves or Clan Rats then have multiple upgrades available through different clan buildings. This way you get the horde idea while conserving the play dynamic and balancing.

[@sparklestonebro]

I hope the ratling gun appears, first found out about it in vermintide, such a cool sounding and weird weapon

[@honorguard7616]

It appeared, it hurts

[@vanillaphysics9814]

22:52 Plauge monks with a Clan Mors banner?

[@ThePhilipish]

Ought to be a toggle like skirmish where the rats in the units with the various machine guns surround the gun but avoid the nozzle, couple of meters, just to give it room and let it peek out the front, and a toggle where they cover the gun and defend position.

[@Madsklb]

hey bruv, just stumbled upon your vids here an i must say thank you ^^ im a big TW fan an WH40 alike but im clueless on warhammer fantasy lore so this is a good start :D

[@figment820]

I love the idea of reduced total upkeep for slaves in an army it'll be so cool to be forced to take slave to afford your better units

[@danielwhitt6435]

owch! that French burn was sick.

[@theordinarytime]

32 different words for friendly fire.. so from "oops" to "aw shit" to "err, sir. we've seem to have f**ked the 22nd". In 32 steps!

[@42pantelis]

Would like 5 hr videos please. Thanks

[@engineermole2688]

30 odd words for friendly fire... How meny of them are just them laughing like nutters as the poor slaves hop around with varies limes blown off?

[@leftwardglobe1643]

22.

[@2twinner]

+LeftwardGlobe16 +10

[@trrebi981]

Rat ninjas!!!!!! That idea is so freakin wicked!!!!!

[@ArchYouTube]

then how about a rat ninja with 3 weapons! hobbyworld.com.ua/published/publicdata/HOBBYWOR/attachments/SC/products_pictures/m500738a_99060206086_SkavenSnikch_873x627_enl.jpg

[@Vineor]

+Arch Warhammer Its not like i wanted to go to sleep anyway ._.

[@anonjohn6812]

14:10 "There's no gas masks available to stop them." Shows models with gas masks. lol

[@omegawilliam95s36]

He ment the other nations, of course the Skaven would have them since they invented the gas, and I don’t think the Empire or Dwarves have invented anything to defend against it besides giant fans, something we actually used in the first world war I think.

[@jeremiasastorga8399]

Skavens: Throwing chaff at you since God knows when.

[@daanbouman9604]

damn arch. They literally used your censer bearer idea for the night gobbo fanatics

[@Who_dis21]

with the rattling gun, poison win globe throughers and warp flame througher they will more then likely their own unit considering iron drakes in the game currently so when skaven are brought in they will more than likely be their own units

[@Zandonus]

These Skaven guys. They seem awfully familiar. Apart from living underground, they resemble Latvians in culture, combat "doctrine",internal politics, and religious practice.

[@zeddicus456]

ahhh the carnage will be delicious!!!!! 34:28(time) my favorite line of the whole video!!!! XD

[@teakwondochest3287]

Nightgoblins would be awesome too, with all their uncontrolable fanatics and squigs

[@metalmadsen]

I prefer the long ones - Oh and please make a video with Chaos Dwarfes, and if possible Dogs Of War :)

[@tictcha612]

Nice video !

[@gaustadtpanzer3606]

LOL! French soldiers!

[@abelzatyko1513]

6:20 hahahahahahahaha *deep breath* hahahahahaha

[@antonymash9586]

I think that you should have fewer armies than the old standard however units should be in more depth. fewer more important more challenging battles. What I mean is that units should have a lot more options, upgrades and the ability to vett up. By this I mean you should be able to A) pick up upgrades as your units gain experiance. Asuming that every unit has its own champion you ourght to be able to invest in a better/ improved leader as well as upgrades to the unit as well. for example night goblin fanatics, a magic banner slot, a larger or a war machine crew. B) The ability to be upgraded into a more powerful unit like night runners into gutter runners, knights errand into knights of the realm.

[@thanquolrattenherz9665]

the pleagueclaw catapult was a project of clan pestilenz and clan skryrre together

[@vermelsilk5833]

mhm some explanation about what warpfire and warp ammo is would've been nice earlier in this video (unless you've already done it earlier), considering how many skaven units using this. - Otherwise - thumbs up! I hope Skaven will be added quite fast-soon in the game.

[@caos1925]

The orks don't shoot their friendly units, with their ammo they shoot them, as the ammo.

[@northumbriabushcraft1208]

Idk if it's just me, but i think the old metal warp lightning cannon looks better than the plastic one. I don't think the plastic one is bad, but i'm certainly gonna look for the metal one for my army.

[@chubbyninja89]

Dude there's actually a simple way to make the Ratling Gunners a balanced unit on their own. It's quite simple actually. Just have them only have 200 range, being the same range as upgraded bow monks in Shogun 2. And I'd say go look at the range difference between the Gatling Gun and Armstrong Gun in Shogun 2.

[@chubbyninja89]

Because it's in multiplayer where the Ratling Guns could be really OP. You see, for a weapon that's technically a "artillery" type weapon only have 200 range is a pretty big weakness when you look at it., especially when you consider that almost all other artillery can easily out range them and can just blast them to nothing without much problem.

[@cindershearth1159]

What if the weapon teams were the skaven versions of heroes? I feel like this might make more sense because then these singular "heroes" can still be powerful but you don't have to worry about 4-8 of them becoming too powerful. What do you think of this?

[@jeffmachem2702]

Any viewers/commenters/ Arch himself if hes looking, i have a question regarding the Warplock Jezzail. What do you you all estimate the caliber of the average Jezzail to be? Its almost a 1/3rd longer than the Skaven manning it. My first reaction was roughly .50 cal but if Skaven are man sized, it doesn't take 2 men to brace a.50 cal rifle. Does this mean the Jezzail is somewhere in the 15mm-30mm range? That was the conclusion i drew. I am open to more solid research though. EDIT: i interpreted the Jezzail to be 1.3x larger than the Skaven gunner based on how they appear in the model. I acknowledge they are somewhat crouched, but i have never seen a (pure) Skaven stand up straight.

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

Caliber is determined by bore size/projectile size, not by barrel length. That being said, I’ve no idea what caliber warplock rifles are. Assuming that handguns are similar to a brown bess (which was .75), I’d say they’re a bit bigger than that. Then again, I doubt there is any type of standardization when it comes to skaven tech, so the caliber likely varies from gun to gun and the warpstone projectiles likely mold to fit whatever they’re fired out of being that they’re magic in physical form

[@ethanbadberry4333]

They could add a mechanic in wich the slave rats and clanrats scavenge the scrapped armours destroyed shields and deteriorated swords axes and get a small buff in meele attack or defence

[@ethanbadberry4333]

And you'd see the differences in-battle, like the slave rat that only had a club now has a broken shield a chipped sword and some armour/leather on him

[@zackarywyatt9834]

Doubt you'll see this but I've been wondering if you would ever be interested in making 40k skaven army video using the veer-myn models, was also curious about the Stat line/point value conversions you would do

[@valastaremallos-ithil9936]

We know that the upper limit of unit sizes is now around 200 men/orcs/rats. You may now have a lot of videos to edit. :P

[@rasmussalen3363]

Wow, 3 videos! PLS Arch, I had homework to do :)

[@ArchYouTube]

NO! homework is bad for you it rots your brain! hehe yeah i had some real life bull shit to deal with so i couldn't use my extremely limited internet to upload >.< so i just slammed them all up today, back to my usual schedule "soon"

[@blitzit5765]

I swear creative asembly wacthed this video and listened to it and put it in warhammer 2

[@chrberge7732]

Epic frensh soldier burn! No ofens to the frensh sens thye evedently value life more then som ilution of reward in a hypothetic afterlife ;)

[@vampirevomit2414]

Good ide to break up the videos, but I must say, I don't have a problem with the 1 hour + videos.

[@georgel883]

Skaven orgres ,doomwheels, abomination ext .... total war equivalent of elephants..... skaven have so many elephants .....

[@mikkelnpetersen]

39:41 Best "shit happen" i've heard long.

[@yuripantyhose4973]

I hope misfire does not mean the unit dissapears from the stack in the world map

[@kurtsell8376]

I think the mortar will deliver a state reduction.

[@Lalle524]

If you want an idea of how horrifying a Skaven assassin with 3 knives can be, look up the book "unseen", it really shows what kind of horror a rat man assassin can be in the dark.

[@slendiebendy]

so many books with unseen as a title i cant find it. Have a link?

[@Lalle524]

www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/unseen-ebook.html There you go friend.

[@slendiebendy]

thank you so mutch !!!!!!!!!! :)

[@mada_2]

Whenever I see photos of figurines from the internet I wish I could paint mine like that :'( even my blood angels army looks like a total red turd even though they're the easiest to paint...

[@7000_Skeletons]

Please warn us next time you decide to show us 35:17 THAT thing!

[@skullthrone8882]

I re watched this after the Skaven came out.....I'm very sad

[@proudzionist3172]

That tabletop story. Talk about bad luck.

[@beaukennedy4618]

awwww anzother video ov nice fluffy vitle skaven aww zhey are zo aborable.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Missfires in total war should´t destroy your artillery (although hilarious) but just disable the machine unable to be used in combat but available next battle if the enemy doesn´t destroy it.

[@josephstalin5628]

my army of 7583938575729 Skaven slaves will not be stopped

[@divusaurelianus8526]

Joseph Stalin Stalingrad.mp4

[@MrNeunauge]

He is back! nm,

[@alexcallahan9249]

19 warp lightning cannons, 1 leader.

[@filby5764]

I know I'm hella late but what about rat ogre bonebreakers.

[@deathbb703]

I like how the hell pit abominations bleed rats

[@jdtremblay2331]

I can almost guarantee that CA will not be making flails.

[@angrymarine7974]

Vermintide is coming! gota make some research ^^

[@dantenarede]

I'm seriously worried about how CA will implement the territory and the campaign movement system for the skaven, I will be very dissapointed if you go around with skaven armies on the surface and conquering settlements above ground, but only moving undergroun would be OP because no one would be able to get to your forces.

[@darthplagueis13]

Well, the Greenskins and Dawi can move through tunnels which means a reduced movement range but immunity to terrain penaltys and independence from passways through mountains. However, their armys can be intercepted and forced to a underground battle, if the loose it their entire army will be wiped out. It makes sence for the Skaven to have simular mechanics working...

[@dantenarede]

I thought about that, but what about the territory of the underempire, I mean, will there be a 3D model of a swear popping out off the surface? and let us not forget that the Skaven Empire crosses several provinces and other kingdoms and cities on the underground. The movement style I get how they would emplement, but having to go to the surface everytime your campaign movement meter dries up seems a little odd for the Skaven.

[@angshanemecham1936]

All hail the great Horned Rat!

[@Andrew-eh7oh]

1 hour PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE

[@zefyrisd69]

6:25 I know that was just a joke, but I can't help commenting on that sentence. french soldiers were clearly never cowards during their history. Old generals in place by political manoeuvres and other stupid shit like that , doing stupid decisions and then surrendering to save their own skin when things go (oh, so unexpected!) south because of it ? yeah, definitely. France in Europe was in fact so strong that other countries around were always making alliance to surround that country and avoid its soldiers going wild. And despite that, they still managed to expand several times by a huge margin before being stopped. France spent a tremendous amount of time at war in its history, and they won far more than they lost for a very simple reason. Surrounded by enemies, they didn't really have no choice but to win. They're closer of being some of the bloodiest annoying warmongers in world history than being cowards. This situation only shifted with the creation of germany 150 years ago, when suddenly the country to surround was no longer france. It's less that france suddenly became weak than germany was even more ridiculously dangerous than France. Blame Bismark. And even then, British were still extremely wary of French, for example avoiding giving them too much german territory (notably the industrial area they were asking for) after the first world war simply to avoid going back from "german are too strong" to "frenchs are too strong". As a result we got a second time german are too strong 20 years later, but hey. Losing to germany when they were the strongest country in the world (1941) isn't really what you would call a proof of being weak, either. Even then, Frenchs soldiers of the first army still stood their ground while being surrounded AND outnumbered AND outgunned by the germans near Dunkirk, just in order to have their english allies (who btw promised to give support fire afterwards but didn't do it) to escape France so that they could go back later and free France from the Nazi. There are numerous stories from 1941 about french soldiers in the mountain passes as well, stalling armies far bigger than them for a long time, fighting until the last men without wavering ,and inflicted a lot of damage to the german enemy. Those soldiers were not cowards even in defeat. And while joking is nice and all, I just want to point out that those peoples died defending their country, so let's remember that and give them proper respects a least a little, joke or not.

[@kastorongaming7637]

You should have made a powerpoint ^^

[@eggham9076]

Zefyris D there still idiots oh look peasants standing in front a muddy bog let charge into in heavy armour.... Oh wait we just got butchered let's send in the infantry.... Oh they also just got butchered better run them down by accident.... Continues for some time

[@williamchristy9463]

Do I need to grab the fucking longbows?

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

yay, french bashing^^ You aren't german are you? If not I promote you to an honorary german for that french comment^^

[@ericjohnson7234]

I'm French ;/

[@shortlong8936]

Remember when everybody got triggered because of what Arch wanted for the Skaven saying how it was impossible... Then laboratory happened?

[@CantusTropus]

Skaven seem to appeal to a lot of people. Personally, I preferred Orcs, Dwarves, and Chaos Dwarves.

[@Tribune_of_Italia]

10:10 best picture quality 2016

[@vorben7826]

what if you have skaven slaves your army wouldnt suffer attrition. they just eat the slaves

[@User-sb7py]

keep the video in one part but please don't shorten it

[@nikolaichristensen3086]

as a skaven player you missed both fluff and feel of the tabletop

[@Vampmonkey616]

Surely a long gun like a warplock would be quite accurate?

[@2twinner]

They don't have bullet spin and they still utilize a musket ball style projectile so it's accuracy would be about as good as a a pre 7 year war rifle.

[@Vampmonkey616]

I mean relatively speaking, it would be a lot more accurate than anything used by humans or dwarves.

[@2twinner]

oh hell yes compared to what everyone else is using in the case of guns it would be incredibly accurate both due to its power raw dark magically power propelling it due to the wyrdstone and sheer length of barrel guiding the round better than most guns in the universe. however the randomness of the wyrdstone would likely make it less reliable than most guns as it could just blow up, a problem with most skaven technology.

[@pyrphoros8739]

friendly fire with a warplock is a waste of good warpstone. you do not want to waste an expensive bullet by hitting a worthless slave.

[@MrKillerVamp]

Skaven would be the most OP faction to ever live if... they didn't fucking stab each other and are pretty big cowards.

[@mattb4863]

Orcs and Gobbos would also be pretty strong, they just like a good scrap too much to unite.

[@METALGEARMATRIX]

Imagine if instead of Age of Shitmar Warhammer Fantasy had advanced to a sorta psuedo-WW1 Trench warfare game.

[@mifpazeh]

WARHAMMER 1

[@sethrice2894]

that be intresting to so.... what would orcs,ogres,chaos,elves,and lizard men would look like then

[@sethrice2894]

war machine brony get that idea to games workshop they're gonna need that idea to save their skins

[@gloglablyn]

I lol'ed at RATZILLA!!!

[@ShadowWolfRising]

when's Chaos Dwarves?

[@ArchYouTube]

in all due likely hood, never. currently they are a nation on much the same line as Araby and Ind, we know they exists but very little else, and what we do know comes from a over 10 years old army book. I may do them when i have no other factions to do, but i wouldn't hold my breath :P

[@CantusTropus]

Arch Warhammer There is Tamurkhan, though...

[@theviewerofart]

I don't understand why you would prefer if certain units with poison effects would be limited to plague monk armies. It is indeed clear that you have infinite potential to harm your own army with these things, but as you pointed out yourself at some point during this vid, "that's kind of the point". Why limit a player's capacity for a creative army list just because they might end up burning themselves? That seems almost like babying the players, if you don't mind me saying so. Furthermore, in my expereince weapons like ratling guns and other such contraptions can be balanced decently well in a Total War game. Shogun 2 had a lot of artillery, particularly in the Fall of the Samurai expansion, and those weapons have always suffered so much from their lack of decent mobility and ineffectiveness against units that are sufficiently spread out or under the cover of a forested area, that they almost balanced themselves out naturally. Good video though. A lot of the theorycrafting is well thought out, and the lore and descriptions are both accurate and entertaining.

[@ArchYouTube]

Mostly it is to reinforce the roles of the various clans in skaven society by letting them keep some unique unites for themselves, thou that's only really a question if the skaven clans are even represented in game, otherwise i see no reason not to let the player mix and match at there own peril.

[@theviewerofart]

Arch Warhammer Ah, that makes a lot more sense to me already, thank you for clearing that up! We'll just have to see how they handle it. They've done unique units and colour schemes for tiny factions before, but never even close to the kind of scale it would have to be done on for Warhammer.

[@WidoLobox]

So... clanrats are basically WH40K's guardsmen ;D

[@Lalle524]

+WidoLobox except they have better morale :P

[@ronbonist]

How good is a 1,000 Skaven slave army?

[@Lalle524]

+Ron Ben-Yehuda They'll wipe out smaller scout groups with massive casualties but send them into a fight against a army with a general and armored units and they'll be wiped from the face of the earth.

[@mattward4916]

+Jasper Daugaard then bring 10,000, easy solution

[@MrFuryHeritag3]

skaven seem op (btw im new to the warhammer universe)

[@DoddyIshamel]

Well in the tabletop game they are all about rng. They can wipe out an enemy army in a couple of turns or self destruct just as quickly. Basically all their war machines and their magic can go out of control and since the skaven are cowards this can result in half the army running away, which in turn means you no longer outnumber the enemy and thus the other half of your army will follow their colleagues. How this would play out in total war is pretty up in the air.

[@darthplagueis13]

Depends... Once, an entire Skaven underground city was nearly wiped out by a single Greenskin Waaaghboss. Grimgor Ironhide slaughtered his way through miles of tunnelnetwork and literally killed any Skaven or monster he came across. He is estimated to have killed hundrets if not thousands of rat ogres and had made his way right infront of one skaven city(he had fought several Skaven Clans, because he managed to be the first reason in centurys for the tribes to unite) when he realized that the Skaven probably already brought everything they had into combat and so he got bored and stopped literally at their door...