"How Germany Can Win WW2" - According to Twitter

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Kiev 1941: Hitler's Battle for Supremacy in the East by David Stahel
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[@IdanGhengis]

Dont siege Leningrad take it -ah yes why didn't the ottomans just take constantiople instead of sieging it

[@thenamesianna]

"Why don't you just get healthier instead of taking medications ? The former is much quicket and better than the latter."

[@Yognaughto]

Fools! When I click in HOI4 my units enter the city immediately, must have been a skill issue.

[@lordedmundblackadder9321]

Just take Vienna. Why did they wait for the Poles to arrive?

[@mi38029]

@@Yognaughto These dumb germans, Leningrad has a port, they can't siege it down! The soviets will resupply by sending convoys from Vladivostok

[@Unchained_Alice]

They needed to learn how to use cheat engine

[@hafor2846]

"Don't siege something, just take it". Genius. Why fight over something if you can just win?

[@RyGuyMaster]

Nah, I’d win

[@wildfire9280]

@@RyGuyMaster Napoleon before Waterloo:

[@mi38029]

Because painter man supposedly wanted to destroy the city, not take it. Timothy Snyder, "Bloodlands: Europe Between Hootler and Stealing". (Can't spell their real names, my comments get deleted) I am not convinced of this argument myself because I see no strategic value in sending thousands of men to die taking the city, but I am not a historian so trust who you want. Snyder's book is a good and wholesome read.

[@theprancingprussian]

I don't think many outside the vauge history study circle realise what a siege is Where a siege is necessary it is close to impossible to take it by assault Eg an army cannot just walk up to a castle and hit it til it breaks, unless they spend time preparing ways in they physically cannot enter As with Leningrad the obscene losses would be greater if they walked at it ( shooty weapon go bang )

[@gamergodeighty1686]

possible history when he uploads impossible history

[@thespectre5403]

🤯

[@Goldenroses930]

It’s someone else’s post

[@tylermacdonald8924]

😈Evil possible history be like 😈

[@iamasalad9080]

​@@tylermacdonald8924Evil possible history be like: I'm gonna upload realistic scenarios that make sense

[@davvidns]

rage bait​@@iamasalad9080

[@KFP_Prophet]

Germany would've won if I lead them instead of Hitler, I have 1000+ hours on Hearts of Iron IV to Hitler's big fat zero.

[@theirishgamer10]

☠️

[@afraz3203]

Hi

[@humanfrommars882]

Rookie numbers, I have 2.4k

[@mohammadazharmohuiddinx1532]

Noobs, I have 2k, my tutor is @humanfrommars882

[@calibvr]

can we touch

[@thenamesianna]

This is how it's gonna play out if Germany really ignores its ally as much as the tweet suggested: Italy: "Oh nice, you conquered France ! I will join up with you, but in exchange can I get the land I want from France" Germany: "Nein" Italy: "Shit man the Greek campaign is harder than expected, can you help me a bit ?" Germany: "Nein" Italy: "OMG PLEASE THE BRITS ARE IN LIBYA, IF WE LOSE THIS WE ARE BOTH DONE FOR, PLEASE HELP" Germany: "Nein" Italy: "Fine" * surrenders to the allies and joins in with them * Germany: "You traitor ! You can't do this to me !"

[@EbenBransome]

A lot of Italians did wonder why they were not on the side of their old ally England.

[@epg96]

France could've won WW II if they deployed Miraculous kids aged 12-14 with their kwamis such as Plagg, Tikki, Sass, Trixx, Wayyz, Pollen, Barkk, Nooroo, Duusuu, etc

[@DaYoshiGD]

This made me laugh way more than it should have 🤣

[@hafor2846]

They could have won if they plugged an Ardennes sized hole in their lines.

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

I don't get the joke but I'm guessing it's either a reference or something dirty

[@kulanshkhurana7432]

@@DragonTheOneDZAit’s a reference to a French tv show

[@ProfTricky3168]

⁠​⁠@@hafor2846honestly I would love a video of what if the Ardennes offensive failed.

[@alisinanucer]

0:24 who made this list bro “Ally with the Slavs” Hitler thought that the Slavs were barbarians “Mussolini should not be a retard to the balkans” Hitler saying this will collapse Italian and German relations “Don’t siege Leningrad take it immediately “ There is a reason they didn’t it’s cuz they cannot breach the defenses

[@cyclesaviorn2700]

Im more of the "dont invade the soviets until Britain falls" kind of guy. Big problem with that is adolf was firmly convinced stalin would invade him, or back some major communist uprising against him. Other chance was actually dedicating MORE resources to africa early on and delaying the invasion until spring, potentially having rommel on the soviets doorstep in the caucuses while also having some oil available from the middle east

[@somehistorynerd]

@@cyclesaviorn2700Slight problem, Britain wasn’t gonna fall after the Africa campaign. Britain owns the Mediterranean, and North Sea.

[@lt2660]

​@@cyclesaviorn2700 I don't think britain can fall though. If it could, how long would that take? If it takes too long then the soviets will get to build up strength even longer thanks to the german reliance on their resources. The rommel idea is essentially fantasy, how would he even make it up to the caucuses? Not only does this assume more resources would mean bigger wins for rommel (which is not necessarily true due to the logistics of north africa), but he'd have to invade through turkey or iran which would be hellish. Even if Rommel performs miracles, secures middle eastern oil and caucus oil, germany still wouldn't be able to access it. It would take years to build the infrastructure to actually dig up and move the resources to german equipment. The most it does is deprive the allies and soviets of resources, not actually obtain anything for the germans.

[@IanFromSmoshReal]

@@cyclesaviorn2700 Wasn't just Adolf, but the entire high command as well, The Soviets were doing enough dodgy shit on the Border that it legitimately made the German High command assume that a Soviet Invasion was going to occur (Which, it could've been considering the large amounts of troops and the railroads having their gauge being converted to the European one.) Honestly the best way Germany could've won was by having Britain accept the numerous peace offers, But of course, that would require Points of Divergence Like Churchill not being in charge. (Edit: Another thing with the Slavs, it was a widely discussed thing with the NSDAP's Leadership, Hitler had a disliking of them, Himmler thought the Russians were filth but i'm pretty sure he didn't feel that way for Ukranians, as i'm 90% sure he visited the front and saw the consequences of the Holodomor, which only furthered his opinion of them. Rosenberg did convince Hitler to open up the Slavs to an extent. Hence the Russian Liberation Army and it's Waffen-SS predecessor, the RONA.)

[@johnroach9026]

@@cyclesaviorn2700 Genuinely, the window of opportunity for Germany achieving an advantageous peace with Britain was incredibly slim - they'd need an almost prophetic foresight to undermine trust in the Churchill government such that the appeasers could take charge again and sue for peace. However, Churchill had an incredible boost to his popular approval through popular myths which began to write themselves shortly into his premiership, myths such as the great success of the Dunkirk evacuation (in reality, a military shitshow which basically condemned France to death). I'd say the Germans have maybe a month after Churchill takes power to usurp him. After that, Britain is dead set on war, with the only way to peace from there being outright capitulation. Germany isn't doing that anytime soon

[@6rat80]

“Don’t stop the offensive in Russia, take it immediately”

[@KerErt-pk3uz]

Just auto plan bro😂😂😂

[@theblackmailguy875]

what if the ottomans won the battle of vienna. Never seen a video on a remotely similar topic

[@petersheeran5099]

oh yeah all the alternate history videos are always against the ottomans

[@theblackmailguy875]

lets go

[@user-bigchungus1984]

Becouse usualy they have the Ottomans have a phyrric victory anyways, so they're unable to ,,overrun" Austria like they planned. Still I am not sure just how coherent the Empire would have been without its Capital, certainly a morale loss but it was already de facto run from outside becoue the Emperor fled before the siege began

[@fot6771]

@@petersheeran5099 Probably because all the structural things that made the west powerful, the Ottomans were famous for falling behind in. Kind of like asking what if the Qing won the opium wars. It would just push back the date of their collapse a while because at the end of the day Europe is still the one with nation states, factories and world class military innovation. For Ottoman alternate history to be interesting there would have needed to be a point where the Ottomans tried to westernise whilst they still had a large empire but that didn't happen until after WW1

[@sircatangry5864]

​@@fot6771I mean, the ottomans weren't as bad as China. Yes they were behind, but not this much. They were like Russia. Hiring western specialists and officers to modernize army, fortresses, and generally be better at war. But they were under constant pressure from so many sides. They weren't given needed breathing room. If in some scenario Russia or Austria get obliterated, so latter on ottomans wouldn't need to fight 2 fronts at the same time, then we might end up with something interesting.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Suggestion: What if everything went perfectly For Napoleón III

[@ultrabeargames314]

No

[@adamelghalmi9771]

perfection? he gambles all of france, and loses. easy win for the true greatest country

[@Byzantium.]

YES

[@neeleshpradhan944]

​@@ultrabeargames314 Yes

[@herbertschulz4313]

What if Napoleon got his dying wish, and gad been born in Germany instead of French Corsica?

[@Tnpt_studios]

I love how comical the points were. Its clear whoever made them was either doing it satirically or has no actual knowledge of WW2 or war in general 😂

[@arrrchdukemax8192]

I'll drink for the second part. And German high command after reading this twit just like that redhead villain guy Scorpio from Simpsons who was Homer's boss: Of course...

[@jellypetertheeel6360]

Prob first one just for the trolling

[@latviabol]

no, someone who played hoi4 as germany for too many times

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Honestly I hate how overlooked the importance of Dunkirk is for alot of 'how Germany might win' stuff given how many knock off impacts it had.

[@babynuggetplays2688]

If the Germans took Dunkirk and killed/captured all 300,000 British troops there, and Britain consequently dropped out of the war, you just end up with a Soviet Europe or Britain joining back in again in '44/45 as the Soviets approach Berlin. I question, however, if Germany even had the capability to take Dunkirk; they had so far avoided pitched battles with Britain and France and it's difficult to say how they would perform, though given the atrocious quality of their tanks in 1940 they might not do as well as one would expect.

[@Denkr488]

”Ingore africa” Bro follows the same strategy I have in hoi4 lol

[@stargazer-elite]

Suggestion: What if the good relations of the USA and Russian empire turned into a full on alliance after the sale of Alaska?

[@ashes4ashes174]

bump

[@sircatangry5864]

It was an alliance. USA helped the whites, and joined same side as Russia in ww1. Then commies came, and refused to pay debts, so here we have the divergence point.

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

Good suggestion? Impossible

[@y.r._]

"Ally with the Slavs against the commies" is literally the only thing out of this list that you need to decisively win WW2 as Germany. Literally, Arkhangelsk by 1943. Sadly, this is impossible if the Nazis rule Germany. So basically: The only way for Germany to win WW2 is if it's not ruled by the Nazis.

[@BellUH-1IroquoisBell]

since 1940 some ss developed paneuropean nationalistic ideals (Leon Degrelle to make an example), so if the leadership was more like that it could have been done, idk how much that could help tho

[@babynuggetplays2688]

This is what I always say; Germany could have won the war, but the Nazis never came close to it.

[@Then00bhunt3r]

Many people in nations that were occupied by the soviets prior to 1941 sided with Germany. The Latvian division of the SS for example had 100,000 volunteers. The problem was that mass recruitment of slavs in the east didn't begin until 1943.

[@Mcree114]

"But these tactics work in HOI4 when I save scum over a dozen times till I get the results I want! I'm a military expert and genius!!!"

[@hb8323]

-I used simulations that showed that sending paratroopers into our enemies major cities would win us the war almost instantly" +... Mein Führer, in this "simulations", did the enemy soldiers have their helmets pop up from their heads into the sky after being killed? -Yes, I do believe I saw many a soldier suffer that exact same fate

[@lolitzdefaltboy5063]

I want to clear up the suggestion of "zurge rush Stalingrad" • What he meant was during fall Blau, the Germans split army group South into Army Groups A and B. • Army group A was tasked with going to the Caucuses, while Army group B was tasked in capturing Stalingrad. • Splitting Army group South ensured that neither army groups could succeed in their objective because they had diverted the strength necessary to take either objectives. • The suggestion was to use all of Army group South towards Stalingrad first then advance towards the Caucuses.

[@duckling3615]

Which was a shit plan that was impossible to implement which is why the Germans abandoned it. The railway line going to Stalingrad couldn't just supply the whole of Army Group South and this would leave the Germans threatened of being encircled. And not just the 6th army, but the entire army group. Honestly just the traffic jam of this operation would probably make it just as ineffective as only sending g half the army. Paulus wouldn't even get the benefit of Hoth defending his Southern flank.

[@luckisluck]

@@duckling3615 not even the soviets would expect such a gamble, which is why it might work

[@rain19151]

@@luckisluck the soviets wouldn't expect it because it's stupid, when they realized what was happening they would make mass maneuvers to encircle stalingrad

[@luckisluck]

@@rain19151 realistically they would still have to wait until winter to even have the strength necessary to pull it off by then they could have captured and even put defenses on the volga and the city itself,

[@noinfo1018]

@luckisluck yeah, but it’s not like they could hold that. The German war effort was based off of swift victories against their enemies. They weren’t prepared to dig in, especially not against what would have been a massive Soviet counter-attack

[@Jekyllstein_Gray]

Here's how I imagine Hitler trying to convince Mussolini not to invade the Balkans. Hitler: "Don't invade the Balkans." Mussolini: "How 'bout I do, anyway?"

[@Imulti]

The person who made that tweet is 100% a hoi4 player

[@Tzoga-gn3ci]

Video starts at 0:01

[@somekidthat56]

Wow this was actually very helpful to get past all of that slop in the beginning

[@PapayaFruit-wo3dk]

Woah, really?

[@BigRedHeadPhones]

Oh thanks

[@andrewgutierrez4841]

Thanks, bud 👍

[@taderdinedillon2509]

Thank you, SOO much

[@TaraWert1]

The problem with the "how Germany could have won" crowd is they act like one or two changes are enough. So much would have to be changed for Germany to win that it verges on an alternate universe.

[@horatiuscocles8052]

Isn't that the point tho? An interesting scenario as well would be if Germany won WW1 and still went Nazi, it would be interesting how that would play out.

[@MahamudaAkhter-og9ku]

The truth is that Germany was never determined to win the war, the just got insanely lucky to get that far

[@moonshinei]

Yet another Possible History banger

[@mohamed_alaa-]

scenario idea : what if egypt won the egyptian - ottoman wars

[@reachvidurmurali]

YES

[@Normal_Boii]

I second this idea

[@AsilDuranUlusoy]

The mamluks or the rebellion of egypt in 1800s?

[@EduardoDistassi]

​@@AsilDuranUlusoyI guess the rebellion

[@mohamed_alaa-]

@@AsilDuranUlusoy the rebellion

[@Apfeldorf]

Personally, I think you should do an alternate history on what if Alfred the Great was slain at Chippenham, or potentially what if Harald Godwinson won against the Normans. I haven’t seen any large videos touching on those topics, and there are some interesting ideas at play. For example, had Alfred the Great died, the central figure for the unification of England is single-handedly wiped out, and we get a Danish England earlier than the North Sea Empire. A ‘What if Harald Godwinson Won’ would also be interesting, as it removes the primary driving motivator for the Hundred Year’s War. It would bring light to a very niche topic, as well as spark conversation about two extremely important events for the unification of England and the idea of a British identity as a whole that is often forgotten and overlooked in favour of the later Norman conquest and Hundred Year’s War.

[@platinumm4730]

trying to make a realistic scenario where Godwinson wins is tricky though, from what little i know fo Hastings. Godwinson had just marched his entire army down the english coast in a number of weeks, shortly after winning a brutal battle against Hardrada, and his tired, battered army engaged the norman army, that was relatively well rested. You can't really have Godwinson take more time with going to engage the normans, as htey were plundering many southern villages and generally causing chaos. Maybe have Hardrada die, or give up his claim, leaving William to fight Godwinson alone, maybe?

[@Unchained_Alice]

When I saw "Don't siege Leningrad" I wasn't expecting the second part to say "Just take it". That they used that word which is offensive tells me enough about them.

[@askhry4102]

A.H. shouldve listened to twitter.

[@MarwinTreu]

Not even twitter could have saved that ruin

[@robertharrington703]

The mileage from this one tweet the internet has gotten is pretty impressive

[@Goldenroses930]

I love that we are doing a Tuesday-Friday again like last year

[@IdanGhengis]

Germany chould have won if they had dark magic to fuel their tanks

[@S.1.L]

> "ignore africa" does bro think this is hoi4 😭😭

[@tupe444]

ok but what if they just built more waffle houses to make more wonder waffles?

[@lindaperes112]

genius

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Awesome! Love your content possible history! Thanks For this

[@AceyFemboy]

Actually a really good video that details just how stupid people are when they say germany could've won if hitler wasn't "dumb" or didnt make "dumb" decisions

[@artbook-loves-sheep]

6:39 No they were completing their Daily challenges

[@imalyve]

Hitler caught still deploying 7-2s after the No Step Back expansion

[@orinj5574]

I feel like the guy who posted this beat the allies as Germany once in hoi4 then made up his mind that it was possible irl

[@teodorrada9669]

love your maps sir

[@rewriting-history]

Allying the Slavs could also mean Yugoslavia and Bulgaria, which totally makes the Germans win WW2, trust me!

[@guriflash3603]

first time i find a famous youtuber without like 500000 likes

[@xxkb6]

@@guriflash3603 dude got thrown at the back of the bus.

[@visyxl]

What if everything went perfect for czechoslovakia?

[@user-pu4ro7hm6p]

Might have been more interesting to make a video about Alternate history hub’s video on how germany could have won ww2, this twitter thread seems like easy mode.

[@OneGeneral2]

Suggestion: What if everything went perfect for The Ottoman Empire

[@unknown12367]

Ottoman earth

[@wwobbles]

"Don't Siege something, just take it" Someone who has never heard of "no plan survives first contact with the enemy"

[@josuerosales6485]

Scenario idea: what if Francisco Morazan's Centroamerica succeeded and managed to stay united.

[@ivanvarela-pan4682]

Suggestion: How Germany can win WW1 according to Twitter

[@lememz]

honestly as long as the USA doesn't join the war, it's prob a german W

[@user-ht9jm7rv3d]

Can you make an AH video about The Deluge (Poland)?

[@sircatangry5864]

And Lithuania with Ukraine. Entire PLC was affected, not just Poland.

[@Zapadoslavwithcrown]

Again Enjoyable and althistoric fully video from great althistorytuber

[@MACTheory]

6:41 grind army xp got my lonley ass laughing

[@Aster-Gastaev]

The population in Ukraine and Belarus fully supported the Bolsheviks. And Germany did not have a single chance to turn the loyalty of these peoples to its side.

[@PulseRasar]

It’s joever

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

What if France became a monarchy in 1871?

[@cedricl.marquard6273]

It would be interesting to see your genuine take on what would need to change for Germany and Italy to win WWII. I know there's many "Germany just can't win" people out there. But throughout history there have been many surprising successes and failures of states and leaders. So why not see what it would take.

[@sircatangry5864]

We are talking about taking over the world here. Like literally, if we don't take US into account, the fact Germany reached as far as they did was already a big achievement, made possible by incompetence of western and eastern fronts in the beginning of the war. But Germany was too proud and to stretched to reach any kind of succes latter on.

[@Gamer-cb6yg]

There are always outliers, but how on earth do you do a proper, data-based what-if on a “surprising success” ?

[@OsmanMehmed-v5k]

@@sircatangry5864 You are wrong with this peaple who realisticly want to take germany wins ww2 like me definy win as Germany taking Europe without british isles.

[@cedarvickery4119]

Great video! I think Germany avoiding terror bombing in the battle of Britain might have interesting indirect consequences beyond losing more of their air force, like less people would be motivated to enlist for the British if their homes weren’t being destroyed, it’d be a major propaganda loss. Also it might prevent the allies from doing their own terror bombing campaign as then it would be the allies initiating the terror bombing instead of Germany which might cripple domestic support for the war. Maybe even nuclear programs delayed with a reduction in conventional terror bombing. Also I would imagine without terror bombing, recovery after the war would be faster which could also have many interesting implications for the cold war, such as maybe no Marshall plan.

[@noseycrane]

animarchy history just did a video on the battle of britain. there is alot more problems the luftwaffe had than just being ordered to terror bomb

[@U.K.N]

Please make a “what if rommel led operation barbarossa and the italians in europe” And “what if italian armies in egypt weren’t undersupplied”

[@owikowalski112]

Why do i fell Like this guy was a possibile history viewer XD

[@The_Libationist]

Armchair historians be like “Just win bro, it’s not that hard”

[@rozwora]

There was a good chance of winning, if they had been able to reach an agreement with the Poles before the war, but they insisted on the corridor, and the Poles did not want to agree. If they had attacked the USSR together in 1939, the Russians would have had no chance and no one would have helped them.

[@ziomccall4085]

The second and third point are truly the "classic twitter user nonsense" you'd expect to see.

[@Polish-Philosopher]

Suggestion: what if WW2 really went same as according to Russian propaganda, aka Pact Piłsucki-Hitler ect.

[@springlockthesouleater2985]

Make next vid about polish lithuanian commonwealth please

[@MBHpower1]

The first point is valid the rest is deranged twitter ramblings

[@rct3LP]

Not really. Germany was loosing the Battle from the beginning with higher losses than the British and less produced Aircraft

[@DanielSanchez-vj5tz]

What if we take 6 better what ifs for Germany? 1) What if Franco allows German divisions through to capture Gibraltar? (I’ve read that the Abwehr officer involved, Canaris, certainly did not help their chances here) 2) What if German encryption stays ahead of British decryption for much longer? 3) What if the allies attack Norway before Germany does? 4) What if Italy, while it can’t solve its industrial issues, at least replaces some of its key incompetent generals? 5) (one already used here) Germany attempting to make allies of the Ukrainian people 6) What if Germany had pushed Dunkirk harder? I hope you read this! It’d be interesting to see how Germany does in a “best case” video regarding decisions post 1939!

[@mikeaz7561]

Not breaking the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact...

[@Fortniteisfor_nerds8]

Small point, but Leningrad did offer to surrender, but the Germans rejected, wanting to erase the city completely.

[@Awesomewithaz]

Germany could win WW2 if everything was different

[@DaRkJoKeR77]

Nah trust me bro this would totally make Germany win! I made it work in HOI4 many times!

[@burnttoast2715]

Hi Possible History

[@goofycat676]

2:43 song?

[@pippo_beffardo]

Day 15 of asking "what if everything went perfect for Italy"

[@taherbertolinirodrigues9104]

Twitter proceeds to commit the same mistakes the high command did by not laser focusing on the caucasus oil fields

[@RONJupiterEvents]

bro really posting anything but the modern empires video 😭🙏

[@StrangeGamer859]

What if everything went perfect for Revolutionary France!

[@horatiuscocles8052]

Creative scenario but it involves a lot of political changes which are hard to predict

[@thepax2621]

I was almost too afraid to click on the video, but curiosity of how unhinged Twitter would make Germany "win", got the better of me 🙈

[@benetgamingchanel4055]

Ah! Yes, let us ask the intelligent peoples on Twitter (an app famous for being open-minded and the low toxicity between its users, especially on political discussion) to give their opinion on how Germany can win WW2.

[@vansglitches1192]

Could you make a video about what if everything went perfect for the maratha Empire?

[@PrinzvonCarpathien]

Suggestion what if everything went right for horthy

[@NormalThe7th]

I was watching this video one minute after it came out and the video had no views please fix

[@yourlocalt72]

Germany could have won ww2 if somehow a massive force of Leopard 2s, Eurofighters, Marders, PzH2000s, Eurocopters appeared out of nowhere and they had technical knowledge on how to maintain, produce and operate them, also oil as well.

[@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead]

neo-nazi arguement for germany winning dismantled with FACTS and LOGIC

[@Mike-ukr]

Ally with the Slavs would've absolutely won them the war, combined with peacing out Britain on favorable terms and not declaring war on the US which means that Germany would've won WW2 if they weren't Nazis which is extremely ironic anything else either gets Berlin nuked (as a result of the war being longer) or gets Germany steamrolled in 1942 by the Soviets (or is actively harmful)

[@SnakeonLSD]

My hot take is that Germany could have won if his leaders weren't extremely radical and racist. The Germany that almost single-handedly won a war against 3 of the world's greatest powers (UK, France, and Russia) wasn't dead yet, and it showed yet again through their achievements in France and the USSR. Furthermore, parts of the Soviet Union, such as Ukraine, the Baltic States, and Kazakhstan, lost a lot because of decisions made in Moscow. The only reason they didn't side with the Germans is because the Germans made the Soviets look like saints by comparison. The Soviets weren't EXPLICITLY trying to kill them, but the Germans were. Not trying to kill everyone in the USSR changes the stakes for your average Slav. Which is more important to you: The lives of you and everyone you love, or the ideology of your current government? If the USSR was taken out of the picture, the Allies could not win the war, as the Germans could turn continental Europe into an impenetrable fortress. Think about it: If the Normandy landings were difficult to pull off while most of the German Army was distracted in the East, how is it possible when no such distraction exists? The only options would be to either accept German terms, or let the war last forever.

[@hafor2846]

The Nazis are Nazis though. You don't have this war if they aren't in charge. If Hitler stopped in 1938, he would have been lauded as the Bismarck of the 20th century. But the only reason he even pushed like that in the first place is because he was planning for a war and in fact already ready for a war back then. It's like that with all those counterfactuals. If the Nazis didn't act like Nazis, they wouldn't be Nazis. Also, you're conveniently forgetting nukes.

[@Gamer-cb6yg]

In a far off scenario where the Germans win in the Soviet Union, or even more far off scenario where the two remain peaceful… Europe is only “impenetrable” for so long. What are they gonna do when the UK and US start firebombing the hell out of all of Germany- and what the hell is Germany gonna do when the nukes fall? The germans wouldn’t have the resources for their own nuclear program. “Victory” for the germans is impossible as long as the UK stands.

[@danman101stefan]

The Nazis would’ve won if they weren’t Nazis? It’s not possible history at that point, it’s a completely alternative timeline.

[@Maxeh]

The RAF was larger, better equipped, more modern, and flying over home territory. Hell, the British Industry was in a strong state before and after the Battle of Britain, and was able to out produce the Germans in almost every way.

[@FodaseNaoLigo]

No Twitter have Im brazillian

[@jamaicafosvaldo]

Video 28 of asking Possible History for a video about "If Valery Sablin was succesful"

[@callmehowyouwanna]

What if the Tunguska event happened later during the German Invasion of the Soviet Union and hit the European part of Russia?

[@raphaelgrimaldi8924]

I think the point on Stalingrad is more that the german army shouldn't have tried to invade the Caucassus while not having taken Stalingrad yet. Also on the Leningrad point, maybe the point is a reference to the fact that the german army invested a lot of men and ressources to take Sevastopol but maybe should've done it for Leningrad.

[@magickaktus544]

nice film

[@michakoodziej5741]

What if Poland joined the axis: Ribbentrop-Beck scenario

[@Neanderthalerrr]

" don't siege Leningrad, just take it " ahh yes, if your homeless, just buy a house?!

[@Ower8x]

While I dont think any of this would help win WW2 for the axis ... but would be interested in seeing your opinion on how this would affect the war: Germany convinces Italy to focus on Africa first instead of comfiting resources into the Balkans and even sending additional forces to aid in the initial push since Barbarossa would be delayed anyway .... Alternatively or in addition to that deal with Yugoslavia first either pressure it join the axis and support Italy in the Balkans/ Africa ... or dismantle it enticing Bulgaria to join sooner Then after Yugoslavia is dealt with convince Italy to focus on Africa and have say Yugoslavia/ Croatia + Bulgaria send forces to support Italy in Africa and sending an Africa Corp like force earlier ...

[@AmericanKiaser35]

Every historical source about the Battle of Britain cites that had the German not changed targets the RAF would not be given time to recover its losses and reorganize to inflict the massive losses on the German Air Force

[@terminalimpact2771]

Speedrunning Operation Valkyrie be like:

[@bogdanionita7861]

tf does he mean dont siege leningrad, take it, how tf you take a city without sieging Average 15 yo historian

[@Knot_Sean]

If the germans had BF 109’s with torpedoes on them, They would’ve gave the RAF a run for there money in the Channel. Would have made for somewhat easier control of the channel with slightly better power projection and float planes for the recovery of downed pilots.

[@tankpea2]

Can you do your own version of this list to be more reasonable and have more of a chance to work

[@pawedobrosz152]

Actually, the best thing Germany could have done to increase it's odds is to pressure Italy NOT to join the war. This will both create a neutral zone in Africa, which will make a Allied invasion of Vichy France much harder, and on top of that would create a collaborating buy still neutral Italy, which can be a trading partner and an industrial support for the Reich. With no southern front opened in 1943, the Germans can grind war in the East into a stealmate and recreate the Brest-Litowsk peace. Once the War in the East comes to an end, and Germany's armies return home, there is no hope for the Allies retake France. They would also be unable to starve Germany, as it now has enough neutral neighbours to bypass the British naval blockade. The war is extremally costly to the British, and as Chrchill wants tl save the British Empire, he will eventually agree to the white peace with Germany. The war comes to an end with a German hegemony over majority of Europe, but Soviets are still alive in modern day Russia and England still is independent with substantial ammout of U.S. aid, which migh delay decolonization by quite some time

[@Chuck-xu8rc]

it's interesting how all these scenarios need the nazis to stop being the nazis, lol

[@InterstellarPoliticalsOfficial]

I will watch it later but not now.

[@Pettur]

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