Is Karl von Schönberg Worth Buying The Battle Pass?

[@AndyDustman]

WG: Project SK22, developed in 1933 and 1934, was based on 1916-class World War I super destroyers. One of the project versions suggested that the ships be equipped with four 150 mm guns. The operational use of such destroyers was considered debatable: The ship was too unstable a platform for artillery fire, but sometimes you gotta say, "what the fuck", make your move, SHIP IT NOW

[@jhaller90]

i got this ship on a super container back then for free. i tried it , i loved it, it is very good at randoms and mediocre at ranks. i love this ship especially with lutgens as the commander it can dodge shells very easily it has a very easy acceleration times it has heal and another heal with lutgens skills it is very manueverable nice speed for a dd very easy to manage aim lead with its guns you gotta have the long range commander skill (AFT) and most of the time the enemy will let you pass as a ship that is not worth their time. just spam he and later you get reload buff.

[@metcat88]

Thanks to the previous christmas crates i already got her and still using from time to time. Htting cruiser citadels with AP is so satisfying with her. She wasn't a popular drop during free tier 6 ship anniversary crate as far as i know so there should be decent amount of people that wanna get this ship and 2.5k doubloons price tag is worthy among the other goodies for sure. Thanks for the video.

[@alphax4785]

The biggest thing out of the current premium Event Pass is the Schlieffen Eagle permaflage. I got it back when the line was released (as did a lot of players) since it's arguably the best looking EA permaflage they've ever done. And back then if you completed the full F2P portion of that event it was about $100 in bundles to get it.

[@EvoraGT430]

Yes but that doesn't make it a great deal; it was a ridiculous price of $100 originally.

[@James_D807]

@@EvoraGT430 Agree, I don't understand paying any money for a camo, especially when it has no benefits anymore.

[@bobbing19]

i really want it but i saving for black Friday lmao

[@alphax4785]

@bobbing19 I'd go for the perma if you want it, 2500 dubs can be made up for in ranked and who knows if this perma will ever become available guaranteed again while black Friday comes around every year, you also get a T6 premium included.

[@bobbing19]

@@alphax4785 ehh yeah i guess but i really want some of the BF ships, i also already have the t6 prenium, pulled from sc

[@Joey_Liu]

PQ, can you play the Schil? For some reason Wargaming didn’t announce it was coming for sale this patch and it’s been a year since your last video on it.

[@crazykev5]

I want this too. From last year looks good but bad when up tiered and better ships for ranked... Idk if that changed.

[@Joshua-fi4ji]

​@@crazykev5it's an alright ship. Not going to blow your socks off, but can be good. Imagine Graf Speed with accurate guns, reload booster and a bigger hull.

[@Joey_Liu]

@@Joshua-fi4jiI like the play style of Scharnhorst, using islands to cover and trying to flank people so accurate guns would help a lot I think

[@MadmanLink]

Ran into one today while playing the Atlantico. Ap hits hard, but that armour likes to eat my secondaries. 33 hits for 12.5k damage.

[@P99AT]

12:45 I did the math, and it's better to take SE than superintendent. Each heal (with the flag) heals for 12% of your maximum HP. SI: 16,500+(4*1980)=24,420 potential HP SE: 18,600+(3*2232)=25,296 potential HP Unless you really feel like the extra speed boost is necessary, SE is mathematically the better choice.

[@tablepot]

yeah but you might not have time to use all your heals. Also you have to take account of unhealble damage. Sometimes it doesn't allow you to use all heals at full potential.

[@P99AT]

@@tablepot If you don't have time to use all your heals, then it's a moot point. Also, destroyers don't take unhealable damage the same way larger ships do. A battleship (with a handful of exceptions) can only heal 10% of citadel damage, but destroyers don't have citadels.

[@tablepot]

@@P99AT how about torpedos, especially the airdrop ones.

[@P99AT]

@@tablepot A destroyer will heal that damage at 50%, the same as damage from artillery. A Ryujo torpedo does 5K damage maximum, for example. According to the wiki, a hit on the midsection of a destroyer deals 33% of its maximum damage, so 1650. You can heal 825 of that damage, whereas a battleship would only heal 10% of whatever damage it took (after being reduced by its torpedo belt).

[@jackcasse]

I'll usually wait to see if I can completed the entire battlepass, then I buy the premium.

[@ynge8046]

If it weren't for the pokemon aspect of the game ( gotta get em all ) I wouldn' t even think about getting this ship, because I'd play it once and forget about it.

[@EddieFly00]

Man, T-61 Is just better. A shame it's not on sale anymore. Glad I have it. :D

[@EvoraGT430]

T-61 is probably the best T6 DD, to be fair.

[@krokodyldandi8722]

I have it too but I don't know how to build it. Is better as gunboat or torpboat?

[@smokeyjoe4078]

Thats my thought! ;-)

[@Whaley96]

You can go hybrid and come out pretty good. But it's good at both being a gunboat and torp boat so it don't matter ​@@krokodyldandi8722

[@xLovecoil]

@@krokodyldandi8722 yes

[@supermarketyeast4229]

I disagree about dockyards. As a frugal player who only spends small amounts when worth (i have spent abt 20 bucks for littorio and dubs) I absolutely love the ability to get free high tier ships from dockyard at the expense of a little more time in game grinding some tasks on brawls/coop/randoms. Being able to play ranked and get enough dubs to get Michelangelo, Wisconsin, and Oquiendo all while simultaneously earning 11k coal extra nearly every week I play has really kept me engaged and coming back to the game. Ive made like 300k coal past few months and have several free ships to show including free rochester from another event. Dockyard plus brawls is so worth i find it reasonable to get at least half the dockyard done to get the price down to a reasonable 90ish usd for Wisconsin if you play a few hours a week even. Anyways ill be enjoying all my free ships love the content will probably try to grind ranked so I can get enough dubs to buy this DD😂. TLDR: DOCKYARDS WORTH MAN UP AND DO A FEW MISSIONS

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

Another KZbin WOWs content creator thought that this ship was garbage and not worth buying at any price, so I was very eager to find out what you thought. I sorely miss Little White Mouse's ship reviews.

[@retirednavychief6983]

@@thegreatgazoo7579 LWM leaving was immensely sad.

[@wesgeorge4112]

I personally LOVE this ship. With dazzle and swift in silence this ship is a strong open water gunboat. It has good torps, very accurate guns at range, and the heal allows you to take some fights you might otherwise not engage. Imo one of the strongest gunboats at T6.

[@ricobarenbrug5418]

Why swift in silence? Aren't you almost always going to be spotted, taking away the speed boost, and giving up reload? Sorry if I'm missing something here, just curious.

[@jhaller90]

@@ricobarenbrug5418 he might be running torp build

[@ImRandomDude]

what kind of dented advice is this, to waste 8 points? dazzle? Dazzle: of those 15s of active time, you wont even noticeably speed up, and dispersion buff maybe affects 1-2 salvos (account for enemy turret rotation and reloads), and then nerf own reload when you are gunboat? whats next? no SE on shima, because well you want to be unspotted anyways?

[@TonyC2328]

You picking Dazzle already tells me everything

[@wesgeorge4112]

@@ricobarenbrug5418 Sorry, wrong one. Been a while since I spec'd it out, isn't there one that makes you faster when you are spotted?

[@berserker4940]

The aiming system doesn't pull your shells low. The enemy ship maneuvered away from you at that time.

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

PQ: 0:56 Helldivers 2 and Deep Rock Galactic: Nah, we value our players

[@L0RDLUK]

So that's why people stopped playing HD2, cursing the devs to high orbit for making the game impossible to enjoy. An incredible amount of value put on their player Ase, I'm sure 😂😂

[@anidiot2818]

@@L0RDLUK Helldivers 2 finally aknowledged the balancing issues and made a huge turn in that regard. But there are still plenty of issues with that game. The balancing is still not perfect. The games progression and lots of content for progression is behind the battlepasses, which sucks a lot. So there isn't a good "free" progression system atm. Tons of bugs, making the game unplayable at times, reducing your already gimped progression even more, because half the games crashes. Got a crash? sorry you just played almost 40 minutes for nothing... Sure you can get those SC during missions, but they nerfed the loot pool a bit in the past, while also pumping those passes at a really fast pace. Also don't forget, if the game crashes, which is basically half the time, those SC are gone. Overall HD2 has a huge fiasco behind it with plenty of hate they rightfully deserved for their mindblowing balancing disaster and i would say they still don't deserve the praise they got early on, but with the last patch at least there is hope for a better future.

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

@@L0RDLUK Double Check lil' bro. New Buffdivers update saved it

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

@@anidiot2818 I mean I don't think arrowhead is perfect, but they are certainly better than WG looooool

[@hamer2446]

@@anidiot2818 Even if you pay for the Warbonds with real money, you still need to play the game to get medals. As you said you can get SC for free in the missions, but what you said about them disappearing if the game crashes is a lie. The moment you collect SC or Medals it is automatically added to your account, even if you're kicked or you game crashes or you lose connection, you will still have the SC you collected. You can test this by starting a low level mission and finding a place with SC, collect it and then disconect your internet, you can then drop on the EXACT same map and go get the exact same SC, you won't get anything from it, because the server already aknowledged you picking up that SC drop.

[@retirednavychief6983]

I got K.S. years ago in a bundle with skipper Johannes Meck-Leyne. They're still together, and I enjoy taking it out now and again. I can't find my T-61...must've sold it(stoopid). Maybe I'll try to do a ship restoration!

[@EvoraGT430]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[@mikemickcrackin754]

I got this ship for free in a chest, it is a fun little ship I think people will enjoy it.

[@ElsinoreRacer]

I seldom pass on a cheap ship, but having the T-61, I cannot imagine passing up the 61 to play this. T-61 is such a monster, and I am finding, over time, players do not know what it is and challenge its sonar for caps. Free kill, free cap, rinse and repeat. And very nutritious.

[@Almedius76]

I thought this was one of the worst DDs in the game. I was wrong! Thank you for showing me the way / build. It turned out being fun and pretty good.

[@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken]

I got the Karl von Schönberg in a crate last Christmas. When I first got it I was a bit confused as to its play style. I was not expecting a Tier 6 gunboat DD. I like it but at Tier 6 I will pick my T-61 over the Karl von Schönberg 9 out of 10 times.

[@richardburger4859]

Yeah got T61 so this is a pass, do like the way they set up the Battle Pass though.

[@andyaweebphysicist]

Didn't intend to buy it because other Wows KZbinrs said the DD not worth it. You made it look east and I did intend to go through the Kléber line but I better keep my doubloons for the Black Friday battle pass and the containers. Great review though. Thanks.😁

[@_nihilus7127]

I have t-61 and dont even like that ship.. so i know i wasnt gonna love this one. However, i bought it anyways because wargaming has a super solid idea with this style battle pass. If they did it like this every time id probably buy most of them.

[@mabonagrininogi3303]

Does anyone know what the compensation ist If you allready own the KvS?

[@MrTiomanu]

same question

[@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to]

You'll get 8M credits instead. Lol

[@mabonagrininogi3303]

@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to seriously? Not even Steel? What a sad Joke...

[@swift9417]

Hey PQ, can you make an updated video of the Schill? Since it’s for sale again after being only available on a similar event like the Hildebrand so far.

[@ElvroomGames]

I was thinking about getting this and the camos but I am saving for massa B instead

[@EvoraGT430]

Much better choice.

[@mastermind9393]

Was there compensation if you already had the Schonberg?

[@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to]

Yes, 8M credits.

[@Tomreese130]

As someone who was unlicky enough to get Karl von Schonberg in last year's Santa crates, no. It just doesnt really excite me, and since I was lucky enough to also pull T-61 with the same crates, I play that over Schonberg in ranked.

[@Mithril_Antimarr]

A lot of players already have this ship from crates, credits as comp is nothing. Steel, community points or research bureau points would work as comp for already having the ship... even coal would be better, but credits is like saying to the player base we expect you to shell out dubs for a low value battle pass. When there was an opportunity to save dubs on the dockyard if you already had the event pass ship, the bp was worth buying... WG please try harder to offer decent value to long term players.

[@BarrettL1970]

I tried for a good 2 years to figure this boat out and could not... and rage sold it. But I have it back now and your vid has me encouraged!

[@TheJoe7Six]

I have T61 already so I probably won't do this event pass... The only things that interest me are the coal and German Squadron container which may give me another ship.

[@bLock_c1pher]

Looks like a sweet ship, but won't be getting. Outta doubs lol But it does looks fun and all those cosumables even more and Lutjens on it Crazy!. Thank you PQ. take care.

[@ushaw9]

What happens if you already have it?

[@KenMartin-ey3ri]

Of course you got the Pen, and don't call me Shirley

[@theoduce1695]

I already have this ship. Do you get anything if we still pay the 2500?

[@sharr_dextera]

You will get 7950000 of credits as a compensation. For comparison, if you exchange 2500 dubs for credits directly, you only get 3750000 credits.

[@marcom2248]

Your pronounciation is quite well. No need to say sorry... The ship is great when a cruiser shows broadside or when you can hit bow or stern from a bb. But it's not good as a cap contestor and you have to like the (French dd) playstile.

[@richarddyson4380]

It needs the heal…. Torps are worse (7.5km vs 8) than its clone (Gaede) and the guns are mah imho. I was hoping for something a little different I guess. Still I whale the second line for the steel and so the ship is a nice add-on.

[@FrostBeam009]

Bought the bp had the ship already got 8m credits... I feel sad :(

[@dimasprajoko]

in the days of cv and sub, no smoke no hydro is a deal breaker. this is why i can only play loyang now 300k with just 5% credit boost and in defeat

[@richarddow8967]

NOT ALL game devs. F2P is the worst of the bunch, but a small number of Game Developers believe in pay one price, no loot boxes, no paying for new content...Larian studies being one of the better examples

[@eizoqq]

What would happen if i bought the battle pass and i already have this ship? Will i get compensated?

[@garethsutherland9649]

Yes, i think WG said u get 7.9 million credits for compensation.

[@PvtPartzz]

I never understood why WG decided the game needed two dispersion numbers. 1 for being “locked on” and one for not.

[@bobbober3100]

What if I have it already?

[@dr4k0nm47]

You should get compensation in the form of around 8 million credits.

[@Huzarionix]

@@dr4k0nm47 That sucks , I won that crap from xmas crates last year , it sucks they dont compensate with db , I would be ok with that 2500db = free battle pass .

[@bobbober3100]

@@dr4k0nm47 thx

[@TiOBu4]

​Because I love my Gustav J M I bought this ship like 1 month ago and now cannot get gold compensation \ _ /​@@Huzarionix

[@elric40]

Thank you sir

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

In a word Yes, it is a fun ship.

[@boydy7351]

Let’s be honest, if this was any higher tier than 6, they wouldn’t do this.

[@corbinfrazier9019]

i've been playing the game for 5 yrs and never heard of the aim assist, smh...makes sense now

[@Cryogen69]

Eh, looks like it can work as a seal clubber, probably not gonna do much good in ranked

[@nick34269]

lol i thought you said 25 100 for a second not 2 500 dubs lol

[@randomguy2210]

not IX,X tier not spending

[@GreggFellows]

no it isn't, can be decent but i wouldn't use dubs to get it

[@gokhanj.yenigun7933]

I am not paying a single dollar in this game since the introduction of Submarines.

[@jonathanbaron-crangle5093]

Don't forget the heals you can get from spotting 3 enemies if running Lutjens

[@pigeon-z7l]

I sold it

[@TheKobiDror]

If you want to improve German pronounciation: V is phonetically an F at the beginning. I cannot think of one word that would be pronounced otherwise. Greetings from the other side of the pond.

[@professormoriarthus]

villa, visum, ventil, vasall, version, vagina, vampir... if german is a foreign language to you then you are excused, if not, read a book sometime.

[@smokeyjoe4078]

I think the best on this ship is, if you have it, you can´t get from a container anymore . . . Gaede or T-61 are much more usefull.

[@dragonhunter9371]

Got Hildebrand in the 25 k coal container ❤

[@toddwoods582]

Hate this boat, that is all.

[@Quakuu]

its 5 years old wows legends mechanic (2500 dubloons for mid tier premium)

[@Huzarionix]

I got T10 for 250db today , I got lucky with premium crate and I have Hildebrand ... oh tho I got 2 Hildebrands for 1250db & 25k coal on 2 accounts , I was bit less lucky on my main account , I need to spend there 250 db bundle , then 25k db crate & 2nd 750 db bundle to get her., .

[@spogger19]

day 17 of asking PQ for radar minotaur

[@jackz166]

Firmly no

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

So you have a DD and you don't take SE... or even worse, you have a DD with heals, without smoke and you don't take SE :-) Please guys don't use PQ experimental shit builds. Always use SE on DD!

[@sardaukerlegion]

I already own T-61, don't need a second T6 german premium DD.

[@EstoUgric]

play myoko

[@rexatimperator]

French eagle is much better ship, faster with smoke and more and quicker guns, more powerful torp

[@andraskovacs8959]

The DD isn't worth it, I bought the pass for the German battlecruiser permacamos.

[@TonyC2328]

Not buying any Wargaming Battle Pass is worth it

[@EvoraGT430]

The first one was, the rest as you say....no.

[@sandshrew8148]

day 31 asking for a roon review

[@thomasbernecky2078]

advertising, ignored and disliked.

[@fannypramutiar2478]

Second not bad🎉

[@andyaweebphysicist]

First.🎉