So Destroyers Now Have Planes... - Halford First Impressions

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[@florianbielawa2919]

You just know WG cant wait to add cruiser submarines that can launch planes.

[@henriqmarques_]

Oh they're definitely doing it, and for historical reasons (I-401 japanese sub)

[@neometallX]

same goes for Mogami 1944 and Surcouf.

[@TeensierPython]

At least that was a real thing.

[@elnrik8655]

Knowing WG, they'll add submarines that can launch cruisers... that can launch planes.

[@akwardness8633]

Tone?

[@lex0266]

They should have just given it a spotter plane and fighter option. So you can get better range or better defence against cv

[@clansome]

tbh I agree with you as that what the Halford was in real life. The experiment failed and all 3 were converted back into Fletchers regaining their missing turret and torpedo rack.

[@DrewMcManus]

I’m done with wargaming. I stopped playing the game for a month, came back to see if subs and the rest of this BS was any better and it is nothing but worse. I’ve already purchased a new game to replace this and I’m waiting for it to drop in September between now and then I’ll fill my time with other activities but it’s clear wargaming has no interest in making things better for long time players that have spent plenty of money on the game over the years. I don’t know what Content creators like yourself we’re going to do unless you plan on re-tooling your content so it appeals to the dbag new players they are trying to attract at half the rate existing players would have stayed had they not implemented these bad decisions. It’s not like it takes a business genius to figure out a cost less to retain current players and attract new ones.

[@clansome]

@@DrewMcManus Good bye and good riddance. (Your last paragraph doesn't make sense btw)

[@Ocean-Jay]

Bold choice adding ships to world of warplanes

[@geraldleuven169]

lmao

[@bill5982]

There were three destroyers, the Pringle, the Halford and the Stevens who were converted to carry a float plane. The Pringle's derrick was poorly designed and after launch could not recover the aircraft. The Stevens was able to launch and recover an aircraft. However a destroyer is unstable and would have difficulty launching and recovering aircraft in even moderate weather that wouldn't affect a battleship or cruiser. With all the other ship types (Carriers, Cruisers and Battleships) able to launch and recover aircraft without all the attendant problems of a destroyer, the experiment was considered pointless and all three ships were quickly returned to a standard Fletcher configuration.

[@TeensierPython]

You get a carrier. You get a carrier! Everyone gets a carrier!!

[@amolverma4774]

Hi Oversimplyfied!

[@Leafbinder]

@@amolverma4774 you dip, we dip.

[@n2t460]

You get a hybrid like louisiana!

[@kaollachan]

when will we get plane that "fly" underwater too?

[@jarink1]

I think they're trying to normalize carrier play so people will complain about them less. (Not likely)

[@5kgBirnen]

They used the Origami technique to fit all those planes onto that Destroyer. Historical accuracy

[@hughejass9461]

The Halford looks like another DD that will have to hang back and not push up in randoms. We have enough DD players that don't push up already but at least it can still get spottingbso interesting combination. Certainly not a DD for me. Great video and take care.

[@richarddo7881]

With DD nowaday, it either camp behind friendlies or yoloing and die in the first few minute of the match. This is what happen when you have a game whose playerbase has becomes increasingly less skilled and the dev keeps sabotaging their game with broken mechanic & "Pay-to-win" equipments... Beside, who need a DD when Sub can does a DD job much better and safer

[@skyeangelofdeath7363]

DD's have to play more cautiously these days. There are so many planes, & so much radar, & sub spotting. You barely have any concealment in a DD anymore.

[@colinschenck2129]

Because it's a meta where you can't push up in a dd like the old days. Too many radars and planes

[@idk_wtf_is_going_on9614]

the original torpedo boats of the ijn line need a buff real bad, just getting powercrept every update.

[@nicolamontorsi7021]

In my opinion Tiny Tims are suited for large cruisers or bbs. They have long aiming time (useless to strike dds), but damage, pen and fire chance are VERY GOOD. Use them to spot for the team. When you see a suitable target that uses dmg con, it's a free 5k average and a bonus fire. Fun fact: if you proc CONFEDERATE with Halsey and you have half hp with AR, you can be a smoked cv with continuos strikes on the enemy (+ torps if they try to rush you) :D

[@capthappy8884]

If no CVs in play, I'll use my hybrid planes to simply spot the DDs and hope my team shoots. Even if not a lot of dmg done, I find I can often use the spotting for area denial against dds. All that said, on bigger ships, it feels more functional. As a dd, I don't feel there's a lot of time in a match where I'd want to be idle tho. We will see

[@andymage7179]

Wow, more planes. Just what this game needs right now.

[@obinator9065]

not that dramatic crybaby

[@zlpatriot11]

More like plane spotting

[@wesley_b]

They had to use all that plane modelling work WG spent their money on in WoAs 😅

[@clansome]

@@wesley_b It's a real life ship tho. Mind should have had just the spotter not a squad of rocket planes.

[@redzed9405]

​@@obinator9065 i think he is just disappointed, me too tbh

[@kr4ftt]

Just as a bonus comentary, Tiny Tims were always intended to hit big targets, Lex and Midway could aways chose between normal rockets or TTs. It's been awhile since I grinded the line but iirc since lex has fewer planes rockets are a viable option, but midway tiny's are better because against dds you HE dive drop them

[@jaywerner8415]

Yeah iv always felt like the Tiny Tims are BUILT for hunting Capital ships, Enemy Carriers, Battleships, Battle Cruisers, Heavy Cruisers. All depends on their Deck armor really.

[@elchito3]

Plane spotting can make it difficult for enemy DD’s to play against this thing, but the plane health is so low that it doesn’t really work for long. Most DD AA guns can make short work of the rocket planes. Also, the rockets get 2 charges I think. They reload independent of each other and if you don’t launch planes for like 2mon, you can get 2 instant rocket charges.

[@Vehehehe]

1 CV 3 hybrid BB 2 Hybrid DD. air supperiority achived ?

[@shihaozhang9608]

You can at least CV snipe a Carrier, what can you do against hybrid dds?

[@ChillyMcChill]

Midway - Louisiana - Delaware - Kearsarge - Halford - Halford Yikes

[@HoshikawaHikari]

@@ChillyMcChill Don't forget the Dutch

[@Vehehehe]

add Harlem for a good measure

[@Vehehehe]

and tromp

[@Alyeska23]

Managed to get the Halford to drop on the free crates. It's been... interesting so far.

[@charlesoconnor7142]

"They fly now??" "They fly now."

[@gstormcz]

It looks like introduction of support CVs, those with smoke, still will be doing spotting. Whats worst, if any general ban of certain class(CVs for example) from any kind of battle, then these hybrids can still make unfair advantage for team which gets them matchmade to the team. Reminds me how regularly you see 3 Schliffen (for example) in one team, while other team is not having them, even they are not in division and no similar torpedo/secondaries BB in another team there. I just hope it gets either really balanced or fixed somehow. Reminds me playing A. VParseval in ranked, spotting enemy Mogador, otherwise very strong DD, I made him tough and short life, the guy complaining soundly. I took it as duty for our team, although I managed do him just 8K dmg, the rest did team with focused fire. And even my otherwise low HP planes were enough to stay within his weak AA. I think it was kind rock paper scissors. If I was left alone against him, the luck would probably moved to his side. Btw I noticed Auction craziness the minimum prices for these things, even Jolly Roger flag was payed with great surplus of steel, xd.

[@iDaCarrot115]

I'm a very casual player and I enjoy playing the unique stuff. I can see why some of the more dedicated players or competitive players hate this, but damn does this look fun lol.

[@TallulahSoie]

The brief time I tried carriers that's what I did. Find the DDs and circle until they died. Eliminate the biggest threats to the team for free.

[@Bigbacon]

can't wait for a dual CV + hybrid BB + hybrid DD battle

[@Shododaan]

The barge that carries the planes for the DD is made from the same stuff as "The Kings New Suit" =)

[@aviral3464]

ya know at this point, wg could sadly make a yamato a hybrid since it was the only Battleship class of the war that had a proper airplane hanger large enough to hold 7 planes and Even had an proper area to launch multiple planes at a time. It least it can be more historically accurate than this dd crap

[@Brinckie]

Nice video and spot on with your reservations PQ, just imagine getting this ship div'd up with a kearsarge or BB/cv hybrid or two... and then having 0 "hybrids" on your team , nice an balanced.. lost a few battles against only kearsarges in a div while being the sole remaining dd when all i had to do was run away and win.. could not run anywhere since cv/ hybrid BB know when they are spotted flying their planes... Broken AF imho.. and then not even mentioning the fact BB or this thing can still shoot when the planes are ready with striking their target.. 0 real counterplay....

[@ImpendingJoker]

The spotting is the big sell here.

[@waffle3632]

I'd say tromp is stronger. The planes don't deal enough damage ti make up for the loss in range, DPM, and torpedo tubes. You are a dd that is made to roam and provide spotting that is it. You would have more fun in a torp boat.

[@desert_fox5641]

I found it impossible to rocket a strong stealth DD because once spoted it has already overrun the target.

[@jaywerner8415]

Fun Fact: Despite what Wargaming would have you believe (They screwed the flavor text SO HARD), they did take the catapult off and put the 5th turret on before these ships shipped off to the Pacific. "This ship is pretty weak" Well they made it a coal ship (i was surprised too) so that says something. Its a INTERESTING ship to be sure and a neat piece of history, but in game its like "oh no another Hybrid ship, wo is us." Would it KILL Wargaming to make it so plane spotting is JUST on the mini map like those first 5 seconds of Radar or Sub surface finder works.

[@bobbygeorge3698]

dropped this from a free container, which totally surprised me, but i quite enjoyed it, deffo good at spotting.. i liked it..!

[@lunasamoyed4907]

Next are submarines with planes

[@obinator9065]

They already added those subs without such things.

[@Ixalith]

just look I-400-class submarine "[...]The cross-section of its pressure hull had a unique figure-of-eight shape which afforded the necessary strength and stability to handle the weight of a large on-deck aircraft hangar.[...]"

[@lunasamoyed4907]

@@Ixalith yup and this time they will say it was a real ship. They always do when it suites them. xD

[@itsN1K]

@@lunasamoyed4907 I-400 did exist, they were Yamamoto's original plan to "invade" America by swarming the Pacific and Atlantic coast cities. Though they did exist, the plan ultimately failed.

[@lunasamoyed4907]

@@itsN1K lol, I know, like I said in my previous post. I'm a history nerd BTW

[@thesimpsonian2498]

Can’t wait for wg to drop the Subsuma

[@sardaukerlegion]

The Tromp already got airstrikes, so it was only a matter of time. IMO a DD has to play close to the Reds, and controlling planes becomes a distraction.

[@thomasherron5809]

That looks historically accurate! Ha ha

[@jaywerner8415]

Potato, just curious. IF WG actually gave this ship a spotter plane like it historically had, do you think it would be any good?

[@safety_doggo2]

More than likely not, if her sisters are any indication. Their guns are extremely floaty and at range they are pain. Unless they were willing to change that and make her a sniper of sorts.

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Thanks. USN DDs did exist in real life in WWII that could launch planes, but not multiple ones, etc.

[@Meknassih]

Subs with planes soon?

[@kevinmercier3614]

The IJN had subs with planes.... I 400....

[@Vehehehe]

now how Will wg make the design

[@obinator9065]

@@VeheheheI-400. And we know that Japanese subs are coming.

[@FotoVideoShow]

Love to have in a Yamato at least one submarine (goes beneath), one minute relaod, 10,000 damage. Looking at this like History channel.

[@Chucky925]

Beautiful Camo....

[@johannordin6534]

Inb4 they will add submarine CVs with german secondaries ^^

[@CareBear-Killer]

The halford sounds more like the Sherman than fletcher, but I think both use fletcher as a base. Same torps and guns...just launcher on the back for the torps, rather than fixed launchers at the front.

[@maperuva8995]

Well you just said it's just more planes, the spotting is just op. I wish they've give everyr other ships an AA buff for each time they increase the number of planes in the game. World of Warplanes it is ...

[@_Fulgur_]

Why couldn't they just make it a spotter plane which could help increase its ability to be a gunboat?

[@monarchco]

Ahhh. "World of warSHIPS" Where life sucks unless you're an underwater BOAT, or a PLANE.

[@rokko1020]

cant wait for submarines with cruise missiles

[@edwardmonken4562]

So now it’s confirmed the Japanese subs are gunna have planes 😂

[@NatchNebel]

Halford is not a DD for making damage,it's used for smoke screening and spotting

[@usssimshullnumberdd-4095]

CV with attack planes: ✅ BB with attack planes: ✅ CA with attack planes: ✅ DD with attack planes: ✅ Up next: SS with attack planes

[@Oniontrololol]

Now I want a submarine with 16 480mm guns

[@jakubslavik5595]

They fly now.

[@zenakulla99]

For damage output, yes this is seems to be a weak ship But for teamplay it's another story in my opinion, because this ship provide your teammates extra spotting, information... We all know that spotting the enemy team is important to winning the games, this is going to be a strong ship if you have div with your friends

[@jimbo_t]

You get planes! And you get planes! E V E R Y O N E GETS FREE PLANES!!! Yaaaaaay, right?

[@jiema2020]

I feel like this is countered pretty easily if your team needs you to win a fight on a flank or counter enemy DDs in the early game. A Marceau can just just eat your planes and then poke you full of holes

[@DaviSov]

Only japanese shoud have hybrids since they had the moust >:c

[@xgreywolf1525]

I’m sure we all knew this was going to happen

[@clanholmes]

The horn should play a Judas Priest song

[@lustymeow]

waiting for the submarine with planes

[@ted5567]

I got it in a essex contauner i wonder how to buuld/use this?

[@SchusterJames]

Can you use autopilot for your ship from the planes like a CV??

[@leonbaum1912]

How di he not get spottet at 4:00 eventho he was shooting??

[@LegionaryOfRome]

There are so many fletchers in this game that you should make a single vide about all of them lol (fletcher, black, velos, chung mu, etc...) and speak briefly about them like a couple minutes for a single ship

[@AdamJRowen]

wait. How can a dd house 4 fighter planes?

[@Mr_Secondaries]

Love this destroyer!

[@toddwoods582]

Love this boat....LOL

[@Train115]

Should've just been a DD with spotter/fighters

[@jaywerner8415]

That would be pretty interesting to be honest. Given the American Ballistics though the spotter might not be grate but hay, it can spot things while your hiding in smoke so thats something.

[@miked815]

The airstrikes waaaaaaay more than make up for missing 1 gun barrel... its the 5 extra torps you lose where the real big hit is taken.

[@Baelfyr]

This is why i think they need to make changes to plane spotting. The planes should not give full spotting to the entire team, it should highlight the ship on the mini map like a cyclone does, and only the carrier or the ship flying the planes can see the ship its shooting at, i don't think it should spot for the entire team. This would help to eliminate the OP spotting that carriers bring, and its a move towards something more realistic, being a plane would radio back the general location of what they are seeing to the carrier, not that WG is realistic any more. I will say, the introduction and the fact that WG is working on new support carriers is the final nail in the coffin of a dying game for me. I dont think i will be playing it much longer, if at all.

[@Beep2bleep]

Yeah I'm glad I uninstalled, this is absurd. DDs are about sneaking around each other not just randomly getting to spot the enemy for a minute whenever you feel like it. This would pair with smoking DD div absurdly. Get a div sitting in smoke that can shoot anything in range due to the planes. Having a DD with planes is the same as when one team loses their DDs and can't stop spotting.

[@denisnedenis3648]

now imagine WG will reveal several ships that will be able to dive as submarine. they always had the "best" game disign ideas, so they really can do this

[@henrysanchez7977]

Fixing AA on all ships would even out the game, and let CV take fire damage (in WW2 most damage to ships was FIRE damage, otherwise they will continue to lose player base with pay to win strategy.

[@2fat4airborne44]

A sub that has planes and can fly itself with nuclear missles to launch. give it time it will come....

[@user-sg7hq2oz3u]

I am waiting for Gunda

[@biver2516]

be real, we all knew it would happen. the next thing is a super-cv with torps, bombs and nukes.

[@miked5647]

Did you forget about the tromp? Little different but still

[@mr.skully8787]

yay more content aka planes

[@lordzortak]

played 5 years, dd main. shit like this is why i left, though i still like your content. I find it informative and pretty much on point every time.

[@swift9417]

Everytime I am mildly interested in this game again, a new video pops up in my feed, giving me new reasons not to be.

[@davis6048]

Thanks Potato and have a nice forth...

[@marcholmquist3089]

He is Canadian so just another day LOL

[@CarguyRS]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see modernized Iowa class battleships with tomahawk cruise missiles and VLS systems (with cwis to shoot down anything inbound) come into game if they're willing to let a destroyer yeet out 4 planes. Hell might as well go with a type 055 or AB flight 3 and just full send it. Mostly just a warship history enthusiast, and I understand games aren't meant to be super realistic, but even from game balancing this seems pretty insane. Regardless pq, love the content and respect the skill sets you've developed over the years. Keep at it fam

[@Y0urricane]

My Worcester loves fresh meat) there only 2 airplanes Worcester is unable to kill: Nakhimov & Louisiana tree

[@ssgt.swiney705]

If no one gave WG money for say even 30 days I wonder what would happen to them? Especially if those paying customers did so out of frustration. I wonder.

[@jackfu8550]

can you do a one take on LUSHUN

[@geosama1317]

i thought it was something like tromp, but wtf this ship get free spotting

[@kaletsu2270]

First token box and i did get georgia

[@boydy7351]

The issue here, is the spotting. It’s BS. When most ships can barely shoot 1 plane out of a flight of attack craft, it’s ridiculous. The more planes that get added to this game, the more they kill it.

[@larryhenckiii7718]

Submarine Carrier when?

[@obamagaming6642]

Tromp?

[@Brand_212]

Haaa-ford

[@whiskeysk]

got 15 containers for the tokens, first one was Halford...

[@dlm9709]

i though halford was going in for coal, so I was gonna grab it for the memes but ain't no way I'm spending on this

[@Weathersbeast]

How do you make your ribbons look like that ?

[@Weathersbeast]

In fact I like almost all of your hud

[@brianhildebran4351]

I got this ship free in a crate.

[@booch9109]

World Of Warships / planes/ torpedoes.

[@MrTrool323]

"Don't rely on the planes too much" *The entire CV-Hybrid playerbase* -WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAN

[@kaollachan]

from your impression it is bad for everyone, a pain for the other team to have yet anoher semi CV that spot and dmg for free, but not fun for the player either

[@Steelshadow104]

Where tf did the other 3 planes come from? They aren't even trying take thing seriously

[@PrimoBeef]

They'll buff it enough so it sells, then nerf it.

[@cshan2313]

It is slated to be coal ship from what I've heard

[@SoldierOfFate]

I don't want to be a buzzkill but I'm sure no WWII-era destroyer in history had the capacity to carry and maintain aircraft, even if they were floatplanes.

[@Largeportion1000]

Pretty sure they have had them for a while now...

[@kingsmen9243]

next up we might get a super submarine, the Japanese sub I-400 which can launch planes in 1945

[@wheel6243]

they're giving DD's planes because they haven't figured out anti-ship missiles yet.

[@Jabadaz]

It maybe should have a spotter plane.. not this i think..