Reference letter for work experience | Biggest reason for Canada PR rejection

This video talks about the Reference letter. It is mandatory to prove your past & current job experiences. In this video we will discuss requirements, format of a perfect reference letter, who needs it and how to work-around common problems such as - employer not sharing a reference letter and the case of self employment.
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Sir i want to know i am dentist and did masters in that but presently i am practicing in private clinics..so how can i get refrence letter or exprience letter in that case.

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Thanks, this has been very helpful. Some timestamps: 1:48 Reference Letter format 2:45 Sample reference letter 8:16 Options if your company doesn't provide a letter 9:04 If you're self employed

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[@danishmahboob5912]

Hi Guys! Thanks for the valuable information you are sharing. Two things I'd like to clarify, i.e. 1- Do these reference letters are supposed to be in sealed envelopes (Sealed by the employers)? 2- Do these reference letters are supposed to be sent by the employers directly to the IRCC? By hearing you in the video, it seems like that we can send them ourselves but I just want to clarify

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[@researchdevelopment5166]

I remained on 3 different designation 1 retail store worker-28 June 2010 to 15 December 2010 (duration 05 Months 17 Days) 2. Retail store supervisor 15 December 2010 to 01 September 2018 (duration 07 years 08 months 17 days) 3. Assistant retail manager- noc 0621 from 01 September 2018 till to date. (duration 02 years 10 months and 28 days) I have noticed the mistake as per record and informed the Human Resource manager to rectify this mistake and issue a new reference letter with correct dates and timelines. They agree to issue a new reference letter.

[@somnayak1]

In my previous company where I worked for 3 years, I was deputed in three different cities. Am I required to mention that as well in the reference letter? Plz help

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[@iluvfrnds]

Hi, Thanks a lot for the effort you are taking to get us through the process! My company has provided me with the Experience Letter in the exact same format, however, due to legal limitations, they cannot mention my salary- I have an email that mentions this issue. If a provide my salary slips, offer letter, salary revision letter. Would that be sufficient?

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[@das_pooja]

Thank you so much for this video. This is really informative. However, I have a doubt. Say I have worked in different roles in the same company or another company, do I need to mention different NOC codes in my application? For example, I am currently working as a Manager - Brand Management in an e-commerce company, but previously I was working as a Buyer in another eCommerce company. Roles and responsibilities are 80% similar in both my jobs.

[@mohammedrizwan185]

Hi, thanks for the informative video’s. My question is, Is it necessary to have same position (Network Engineer) written on letter if we have done Engineering in IT? Or any position related to IT are allowed ? Like in my case I have done Engineering in IT, but I’m employed as Computer Engineer at my sponsor employer, and at the client I’m working as Network Engineer.

[@shreyarai9298]

Hi. I had a quick question. Due to Covid, my current as well as previous office is shut for more than a year. So, getting a letter on the letter head is not possible. In such a case, I hope an email from my team lead/ manager from their official email id will suffice. Additionally, will they have to mention the reason (covid) for not providing reference letter in their email?

[@researchdevelopment5166]

I am working in one organization for the last 11 years. Here I want to ask that one of the timelines has been typed wrong by the clerk in my reference letter. I remained on three different posts during my whole 11 years career, the timeline of my second designation has been typed wrong dates. As a clerk who typed it as human and humans do errors, I believe there is always room to correct things?

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Do we get to show our funds upto 6 months of continuation period or it will fine till we get letter from bank

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Hi Potato Couple Thankyou for your informative videos. I have not got an ITA yet but quite confident about getting it in the future. My company,however,is undergoing a merger.Do you advise me to get a reference letter prior to the merger,so that there is no problem with respect to the reference letter later on?

[@JaspalBhanker]

You people are really doing an awesome job explaining and providing links. Need guidance - if the employer does not give a reference letter, will a reference letter from one colleague will suffice? Or do I need to have a reference letter from a colleague, boss, and someone else also? Thanks a million in advance.

[@pal9940]

Did you provide salary slips as well? Also my employer refused to give reference letter in the said format. What should i do now? :(

[@thanujajayawarna5320]

When we are stating the annual salary, can it be an average figure based on last drawn salary or we need to give the accurate and exact figure? Thanks

[@officially_s]

Quick question, in the Express Entry profile, do we need to show our entire work experience or shall we only show the ones for which we are claiming points? Such as if I have worked 5 jobs in the last 10 years, would it be OK for me to show only 4 out of those? Or will it be considered misrepresentation? Why I ask this is mainly due to the fact that in a lot of cases the job may be too old, the HR manager/reporting manager may have moved to a different company and may not be able to help out, what if the present-day entire staff consists new faces in the same company where one worked perhaps 8 years ago making it even more difficult to get a reference letter? What's your view on this?

[@kunalsharma6480]

Hello 👋 Thank you so much for the video it was so informative. If I have the reference letter but the company didn’t mention rate per hour as well as number of hours I have worked. Will that be an issue ? Although company has mentioned period for which I worked and I can also attach payslips (number of hours and pay per hour is mentioned) and bank statement for the proof.

[@ballguru1459]

Great video guys! Also share does work experience count before graduation?

[@rajwalia1650]

Sir, I have the same NOC as yours (4163). I was going through the responsibilities on the website for the mentioned NOC. They have around 14 responsibilities mentioned. But these are for marker researcher, business development officer, and travel consultants etc. I am worried about the the fact that around 60-70% should match, but that didn’t look possible to me. I saw the responsibilities mentioned by you and mine are somewhat similar as yours (officially). So that means that those are responsibilities for all different roles and only some apply to market analysts ? Is this the case?

[@gopalmathavan5243]

How old bank salary statement is required to submit? In my appointment letter job title is junior site engineer but after 6 months I was promoted as construction engineer. So in my reference letter I have to mention both position. Moreover, when I am checking my NOC code title there is no tile for junior site engineer but they have title for construction engineer

[@ritunsqfithr7503]

thank you so much guys for this informative video... can i use my job offer letter which has all the jobs and responsibilities and the other things u mentioned required for reference letter?

[@Realstudiooriginals]

Hi, nice video. I have a query: My job title in my company is software engineer and i am a software tester. I am confused whether to choose noc 2173 - Software engineers and designers or noc 2283 - Information systems testing technicians. If i mention software engineer in reference letter it make confusion with roles and responsibilities right?

[@alanfern2800]

What if your job title code isn't there. I work for the HR department but my title is associate learning and technology administration. What to do in this case?

[@kayk4601]

Hi, you are doing a wonderful job! Thanks for helping so many of us who dream of living in Canada. I was working as a salaried person till March 2020. I have a work experience of 9 years in advertising as an art director. But working as a freelance artist/designer as of April 2020. I do not have a registered business. But can get reference letters from all my clients. So do i need to register my business before thinking about Canada immigration?

[@saugataroy3224]

Thanks a lot guys. Your all videos are very helpful and informative. Just one question ..... How old the reference letter can be and does it really matter ?

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You guys are so inspiring. Rabb hmesha chardi kalah vich rakhe and tusi hmesha eda hi sabh nu motivation dinde raho. Query: Can you please share some official or proper formats for salary stubs 😊

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Hello, thank you so much for all the support, would like to ask one question. I have an employment gap of 14 months after my Masters will this effect in the application process ? Your thoughts are really appreciated thank you in advance!

[@tarun9890mba]

Hi potato couple, since it is covid times, my company has sent me a soft copy of the reference letter. It is drafted in the exact same format that you have shown in the video. Is it compulsory to have a hard copy with me. Or will this scanned copy work?? Thanks for all the brilliant information and amazing help that you are providing to all the viewers.

[@parvathymohan8068]

Hi Thanks for the info. I have a question. I am planning to ask my previous manager for a reference letter. Could you please explain what an official ID card is. Is it the copy of ID card from the company? What if my manager no longer works in that company?

[@mehulshah2334]

Can you make a video on how should a self employed person should present his documents? It would be really helpful for me. At least share a link which will help me doing that. Thankyou!

[@jatinaneja845]

Hi guys...your videos are clear and crisp always....I want to know does one need to get reference letter from all previous employers (in my case 5-7 companies)?

[@irsaqayyum4059]

What if in first year your salary was less for the same designation and then it raised? Which we have to write annually on the experience letter?

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Love you for such an informative video.❤️ Reference letter k leye original job krni pary gi.😂 Got the point ❤️😍

[@amazingfun2190]

I have one query, Is it mandatory to mention NOC code in Job refrence letter? My manager gave me refrence letter without NOC code. Someone said me that it is mandatory to mention NOC code in refrence letter. Without NOC code it is just a piece of paper having no value. So i asked my manager to add NOC code in my letter but he refused to add the code in refrence letter. He said that the job responsibilities mentioned in my refrence letter is as per NOC B code. I am confused..

[@Aryan-lu5js]

I was in free pool for 2 year so neither company nor colleagues/manager are providing reference letter. What should I do ?

[@Ridgup]

Thanks, both for the super helpful video! Question - The reference letter that I got from my employer does not mention the HR personnel's contact details but it includes the company information like Telephone, fax, etc. on the letterhead. Is that fine? I work at one of the Big 4s so it's a well known company but wanted to make sure if i still need this contact info of the HR person.

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[@tobinjoshi3817]

Hi, the video is very helpful, Do I need to mention 'full-time and Permenant' on my letter? Thank you

[@fkhursheed35]

Thanks to both of you. Does the same wayout apply for SINP which is more NOC specific and so “Duties & Responsiblities” would require more checks

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[@jasjyotsingh2007]

Do we also need an LOE if we get reference letter from a colleague instead of HR for reasons already mentioned in the video?

[@tusharchadha2291]

Hey Navjot, I have a small question and I think most people will be having the same, so my question is how do I relate out of a number of NOC codes which job code mentioned in the NOC finder website matches my job responsibilities?

[@nikhilsonkamble1998]

Hello, I have a query, what if I have worked under different managers? In this case, should I ask for the reference letter from the first (past) or second (most recent) manager?

[@muksgce]

Thanks for the detailed information. One question, since the maximum points can be claimed on 3 years of work experience, can I include the previous work experience under personal history.

[@Potatotalkies]

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[@ghufranmemon386]

Hello both of you, you are doing a great work keep it up, I have a question please reply. I have a 10 years of work experience of Manager at Honda Bike Dealership and I was hired by the owner of the dealership in my city. Will it be considered as my work experience for the Express Entry as the Dealership is only like a shop or local store rather than a Company?

[@ZainKhan-og7tx]

Hi, Very helpful videos. I have a couple of questions: 1. Does partner in a family business fall under “self-employed”? I wasn’t the sole proprietor. 2. When does IRCC count work experience upto : ITA or Apr? Your response and assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[@meghajivanramjiwala9144]

Is it mandatory to have a stamp/seal on previous work ex certificates ? Since they are digitally signed, stamp/seal are not done. Also is stamp/seal required for pay slips also ?

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[@KPZivot]

If suppose company is closed is there any chance we can prove it through salary slips and experience letter