Poverty in Dublin 1960s (Pt.1) - RADHARC .

[@marklane7695]

My friend and I were I was Dublin in 1968,we we're English and stayed In the morning star for a shilling a night, although we were protestants we never felt threaten and the church fed us, we hitched all over southern Ireland and picked spuds for food and board, I was interviewed by a TV programme called seven days who paid me £2 enough to get the ferry to Liverpool, it was a great time, I was 15.

[@jamoriah]

Wow great story. Could be a little book.

[@krichard2346]

@@jamoriah An original backpacker :) As an Irishman I'm delighted to hear that you had a good time with find memories.

[@Sarcastix7]

Lovely story. You don't hear about things like this anymore

[@Sarcastix7]

@Roy Earle No they're not you liar

[@zaphodbeeblebrox9109]

@Roy Earle shite you big bollocks

[@TattiePeeler]

Language, turn of phrase and vocabulary fascinate me watching old documentaries. Everyone had a clear vocal manner, despite their woes.

[@balsham137]

They sound exactly like all the people I grew up with in a small Midland town absolutely no difference apart from the accent but the timing and speech and thought patterns are more or Less the same...you must be fairly d4 to find this different, very common to my ears

[@TattiePeeler]

@@balsham137, maybe generational then.. I find the tone and diction sloppier today. I would associate the video with a more rigid educational setting. That, generally, transcended, 'class', 'social standing' or however you want to call it. I'm not D4.

[@balsham137]

@@TattiePeeler True enough. Apologies for the D4 generalization.

[@TattiePeeler]

@@balsham137, thanks for getting back to me, appreciated.

[@patriciakeats1621]

I recognize some of the vocabulary from my childhood.

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

For translationary purposes... A "tanner" is sixpence.

[@stefantrbovic936]

The demon alcohol destroys all those that become its best friend.

[@bonzobanzi1137]

As bad as the booze is it's nothing compared to heroin or crack which are far worse for the individual and society as a whole

[@bonzobanzi1137]

@laser325Really? Prior to the introduction of hard drugs to Dublin were there armed criminal gangs with international ties to terrorist organisations? Were 1000's of robberies committed by alcoholics looking for their next fix back then?

[@bonzobanzi1137]

@laser325 The documentary is about Dublin, therefore I am commenting on what has happened to Dublin, you know, staying relevant to the topic like. I couldn't give a shite about worldwide.

[@bonzobanzi1137]

@laser325 Good man yerself, eloquently put.

[@Lar308]

As a retired Garda I saw more alcohol problems than drug cases. I retired in 2013 though so maybe things have got worse since?

[@jamie8032]

The country my parents grew up in, there was *nothing* absolutely nothing, not a pot to piss in. The poorest country in Western Europe. Foreign Nationals coming in now think Ireland was always prosperous, it wasn't. it really wasn't.

[@drdree8396]

Sadly nothing has changed

[@Gospelwatcher]

Oh come on now, surely it's gotten a little better now that there are more ways to overcome poverty there, right?

[@drdree8396]

What I meant was that there are still people down and iut

[@paddypenman2682]

Hunger has been replaced by moral, spiritual and social bankruptcy insidiously masquerading as the shiny subterfuge of "enlightenment"

[@thomaskelly5349]

@@paddypenman2682 totally agree and it all started when they sold out there brothers and sisters in the north of Ireland and purged on a lie of a irish nation

[@sgt7]

A lot of the time it is their own doing. I agree. But fairness requires that we acknowledge that most of these down and outs come from backgrounds that left them deeply wounded. These wounds make it difficult to do even the things most people find easy. It does not excuse them but we can't automatically put all the blame on them without knowing them. Unless we had a similar experience our opinion on the matter carries little weight. What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence. @@ludwigwittgenstein2422

[@janeyd5280]

My brother and I had to go out and look for butt's sos my dad could have a smoke. In Scotland in 60s Glasgow.

[@GordonGarvey]

No self control. You don't win when you come out of a public house or bookies. If someone's on the streets over an addiction they deserve out sympathy but there are some that have just given up on life that deserve more.

[@thomaspcorcoran8298]

Kindness ❤

[@padraigoconnor4951]

Tuff times.

[@georgekenny9820]

Thank God for the Catholic Church.

[@RoderBrent]

You can thank him for child rape too.

[@georgekenny9820]

@@RoderBrent No, you have Satan to thank for that.

[@bonzobanzi1137]

@@georgekenny9820 Satan who was working through the guise of the Catholic Church.

[@RoderBrent]

@@georgekenny9820 Bible kill count: Satan: 10 God: 2,476,633 Yet Satan is considered the bad guy.

[@roder51]

Weighing in at abt. 3.3 lbs filled with abt. 86 billion neurons, the human brain is awesome. It functions 24 hrs. a day awake or asleep from the day we are born to the day it finds Religion.

[@PennyBluebottle]

God love them.

[@dhss333]

10,000 Dublin homeless today.

[@shanehughes3511]

Not homeless like these men. They don't have a permanent home but have Accomodation. The only true homeless are the ones on the streets that won't accept help

[@laptakyrenia8264]

Probably triple now due to the scamdemic

[@TrueFilter]

Brian Kerr at 2:55

[@johnderwin2119]

love it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stabtherasher578]

Hahahahahhaah

[@cliffproctor1]

Have we really NOT moved on? So sad.

[@johnoneill8183]

So sad

[@johnoneill8183]

prospects not so bright

[@cosmicdogdancer]

Homeless geezer said to me, I haven't eaten for three days. I was thinking fair play to you, I wish I had your willpower, I cant keep my face out the fridge.

[@SophiesWorld2024]

He was probably on a trip. There's loads of organisations giving out free food

[@jay-lm4we]

😂😂

[@thomasenright5282]

You could not then get a job if you were old, had any illness or were in prison, things still haven't changed. It always way who you knew if you got a job not what qualifications you had, or how you dressed/

[@peterfitzgerald7734]

As soon as the Brits left us, we descended into a kip until the EU ruled us, we always need to be governed or this is what we turn into

[@geraldneary1948]

Peter Fitzgerald troll.

[@doppelbanger5797]

Better the brits than the likes of haughey stealing the bread from your mouth while telling you to tighten your belt

[@geraldneary1948]

@@doppelbanger5797 ugly troll.

[@geraldneary]

Irish slums were the worst in Europe under the British rule, one of the many reasons why there was a big rebelion. You are maby gay, troll.

[@terrencetalbot6386]

Had to be a good shoplifter or u starved

[@samplecode]

Thanks for publishing this on KZbin. This is unexpectedly poignant stuff from early RTE and it’s reassuring that it’s available for those interested.

[@Lar308]

I was a Garda for 31 years and I blame all those greedy publicans who are willing to take anyone's money without a thought for the poverty and social destruction they cause. You never hear a publican contributing to any charity for the homeless etc. Take take take and never give back is their motto!

[@geraldneary1948]

Sad person.

[@pauloshea3741]

You spent 30 years as a henchman for this corrrupt state, protecting pedo priests and corrupt politicians. How do you live with yourself? you evil piece of shit!

[@balsham137]

Greedy publicans?? Sure looks at the rates they pay to stay open now its nearly not worth the time for some to stay open what would they have to give?? And how does that go for every publican...I never heard of the guards doing fuck all for charity either...they barely do the job they are enshrined to do as it stands...fucking pulling decent people on the way home from work wont go out and do what's needed.. I'm sure plenty a survivor of sexual abuse from the church went to guards and they got nowhere but go on anyway and run down others

[@andrewheeler1804]

All coppers are bastards

[@aranisaacson9892]

You a Garda being blind to the abuse the church was doing to the people and children everywhere,it was fine to preach love but never practiced, living in parochial houses and palaces, selling kids to rich Americans,were you oblivious to it or too pious too care.? sure a good confession would help you sleep i,m sure, enjoy your pension

[@fookayou8607]

Nearly 60 years later and still we have poverty and 10k homeless due to corrupt politicians

[@RoderBrent]

Couldn't possibly be the greedy and dishonest church.

[@sevenswords8781]

@@RoderBrent What the fuck has it to do with the church ya gobshite. Get back under your rock

[@MrB1923]

It's the bankers behind them.

[@anthonywhelan5419]

@@sevenswords8781 That's where pedophiles come from - the clerical rock. My brother was condemned to a life of grief because of Christian and Marist Prothers in two different countries - Ireland and Australia.

[@sevenswords8781]

@@anthonywhelan5419 I am very sorry for your brothers suffering, but you need to know 2 things first is that the true Church had nothing to do with abuse and the real abuse came from ATHIEST GAY men who were recruited to do what they did, I recommend reading the book Bella Dobb School of Darkness. and God heals all wounds. We are at WAR and your brother and many like him have been caught up in the fight . Evil exists my friend and the truth heals.

[@dirtyunclehubert]

myyyyyyyy god, how NORMAL and CALM and CARING TV back then was. what a pleasure, though the topic is poignant. may all of these people rest in peace.

[@mikanfarmer]

These were the gentlemen poor, ........living on next to nothing but pride. I can see my father in their faces.

[@katiemart7]

Slow and Natural life I have 8 Irish uncles-I can as well.

[@geraldneary1948]

A lot of them looked like Jesus not too many nowadays. I lived like that for a good while.

[@bremnersghost948]

Pride can Sustain a Man for 3 Months while His Body starves, Watching His Wife and Children starve for a Week will break his Heart

[@anthonywhelan5419]

I'm very grateful that my parents emigrated Eire in 1958 for Australia. I am the youngest of eight. Life wasn't easy but mum and dad worked hard and gave us a good house, huge back yard, summer holidays by the beach, education to university. It's sobering to watch this. I often daydreamed of what life might have been like if I stayed in Eire. When I returned as an adult in 1981 I was saddened by the depressed scenes I witnessed.

[@nickmurphy8572]

Anthony Whelan bb

[@shanehughes3511]

Come back we are a rich and modern country now, well worth a visit. One of the richest and highest quality of lives anywhere in the world.

[@janetsides901]

Same thing in the U.S. Why people think all these people wanting in should get everything handed to them,while in every city,etc you can find homeless peiple,people living in poverty,our veterans being homeless,elderly living in next to nothing. But bring in people who won't follow laws and want to force their bullshit down our throats. It's bullshit all of it.

[@shanehughes3511]

@Anna Cottle Cottle❤️ ☘️

[@sidewindersid4180]

@@shanehughes3511 are we???

[@janeyd5280]

Stefano Trbovic There but the grace of God go I. 🚶

[@janeyd5280]

Johnny Patrickhaus and 5 x sixpence was half a crown. In the early 60s that would buy a quarter lb of fresh butter, 6 morning rolls and 1 pint of milk. And that half crown went between my mum and the neighbour downstairs who took turns borrowing it from each other. Her husband drank but my dad didn't. He was in ill health after a fall from a ship he was helping build in Greenock. No health and safety in those days nor compensation.

[@markdevlin3838]

and we still havent learnt anything

[@deanstanley5799]

To say they had nowt they kept there hair tidy and beards trimmed!

[@belfastsoul8863]

There for the grace of God go I .

[@sparx180]

Belfast Soul What a surprise to see those words. My mother used to say the same thing. Thank you.

[@Juniper-d5b]

Lost and severed from our ancient living.. Such sadness 🙏

[@tigerlily6070]

Men were the reason family's went with out they drank and gambled any money the had their wife's and children had nothing my father did the same a great man in the pub and nothing more

[@alsoran6832]

Nobody chooses to be an alcoholic or gambler, your father was as much of a victim as you were.

[@tigerlily6070]

@@alsoran6832 he wasent an alcoholic just a selfish bastard that loved beening a big man down the pub

[@zaphodbeeblebrox9109]

@@alsoran6832 probably knows his dad better than you do eh

[@juanhunglow2220]

That’s it then, everything is every mans fault

[@bryanjmm4532]

Some Men are the reason family's went with out because of drink and gambling, and some men are the reason there were food on the table and a roof over there head, while massively shorting there own life In the process.

[@Jim54_]

There seems to be quite a few older people with very out of date and insensitive remarks in the comment section

[@oldlonewolf9649]

naahh, they are just straight forward, just like it should be

[@God-dt7om]

I'd love to know what became of these men

[@chrism870]

They're dead

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

yeah no.... that's not what he meant...

[@gfficomable]

You'd find very many similar cases in every city in Europe in 2018 although not interviewed by a priest.

[@shanehughes3511]

You mean every city on earth.

[@noonesflower]

Sure that was 1960 and I live just about the same now.

[@beboploo]

bless them all that could be one of me mothers dads long lost family sad to watch .me grandad ended up in liverpool o'neils family old swan

[@369jones6]

God love them

Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table, At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ass. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid... Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax Sales Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?' I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!! GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN!!! ---Charley Reese "Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. It is thus, by discrete action, we can ensure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished". Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England, addressing the United States Bankers' Association, New York, Idaho Leader, 26 August 1924. “Liberalism is the party of upstarts who have insinuated themselves between the people and its big men. Liberals feel themselves as isolated individuals, responsible to nobody. They do not share the nation’s traditions, they are indifferent to its past and have no ambition for its future. They seek only their own personal advantage in the present. Their dream is the great International, in which the differences of peoples and languages, races and cultures will be obliterated. “ Arthur Moeller van den Bruck , German political philosopher, 1925. Everyone knows that the monetary system called FEDERAL RESERVE is nothing but a big bunch of Khazarian Zionists dealing in debt instruments who will jail you to kill you if you don’t pay taxes to them. Nothing is more sickening than the smug smirk on the face of Benjamin Bernanke, as he sits and listens to Goyim complain. They enslave everyone with usury. They bomb Muslims, with the help of corporate mercenaries from the Pentagon. They want the Muslims to hate Christians, and Christians to hate Muslims.“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control. … Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” Larry P. McDonald U.S. Congressman, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets in “Introduction” to The Rockefeller File, by Gary Allen (1975)“The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism and Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of World Government.” AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92

[@blade0954]

amazing old film,thank you

[@deanpoole4458]

They would all be junkies now

[@JonJon-rj6xo]

Shocking, everyone should watch this

[@col.231]

One important thing I notice in this video is, the women are busy working, while the men are feeling very sorry for themselves, telling the reporter what has been done to them not, how they might help themselves. Another thing I noticed, the nuns and religious were the ones who supplied the food, operated the hospitals and schools, fair is fair!!!

[@piwa28]

Thanks for uploading👍

[@geraldneary1948]

Good stuff.

[@Londonfogey]

It's heartbreaking to see obviously intelligent, thoughtful men so down on their luck. The gentleman at 5.33 has the look of a down-at-heel Montgomery Clift (the Hollywood star of the 50s). I wonder what brought him to such a low point in life.

[@irishjockey4212]

Today homeless are very different

[@user-cy4vw1qj9m]

Irish jockey how is today homeless very different they may get more to eat still have wait to see if they get a bed for the night and can't go into some of them because of drugs. God bless them all.

[@lizdoyle7158]

EXCELLENT FABOULOUS AWESOME where the man says the men who are up try to keep the men who are down on There luck well down ' is so true even in 2021

[@McIntyreBible]

5:13, yea that's right: walking a long time on hard pavement is very very uncomfortable!

[@donnascollard394]

The priest never gave a shift the government never gave as yet nothing has changed in this country but we are to take in refugees from different parts of the world and say nothing what about our own first still plenty of poverty in this country what about the Irish surely they must come first

[@timexironman100m]

Lots of priests took shifts...noted you great at complaining but you cant say shit why is that if you say on your comment..its was no typo because the rest of your opinion has no spelling mistakes somif you meant to say shit then say shit.. not shifts..two different words two different meaning...

[@Sarcastix7]

It wasn't too long before this video that millions of Irish refugees and immigrants flooded the world. You'd do best to remember you history before opening your mouth about refugees

[@geraldneary1948]

Donna you're the future.

[@geraldneary1948]

@@Sarcastix7 troll.

[@geraldneary1948]

@Mad Man 1 you're the future god bless you.

[@dhss333]

Is that Dev or Patrick Kavanagh coming out the door at 10.00?

[@zibbledyzobbledy6442]

It really does look like Dev

[@lbates3171]

See nothing has changed in Ireland

[@McIntyreBible]

Dublin is a fabulous place today in 2020, but 60 years ago it was a totally different world!

[@kingbrianboru7310]

Lads vote the nationalist party

[@castiron2844]

king brian boru something more potent will be needed.

[@techpreist0101]

I joint it lol

[@danielmullen6344]

@Paul Pugh the right and the left keep dividing their vote. centrist, neoliberal scum will win forever

[@dstraker7]

me lovelly wee iirsh i do miss emm

[@vividman100]

Give it 40 years and we will be history if the EU have their way.

[@sandradrumm5803]

It is better now, lots of medical help.

[@sir243_simr]

sandra drumm the weathers worse now.though

[@arranquick2162]

your joking im on waiting list for cancer 2 years for opperation trollys homeless better me arse

[@paddypenman2682]

Is that Simon Harris talking?

[@GirGir183]

6:25 I thought he said "they gave me a tenner" and I thought wow, back then that was a lot. Then I realised he said "tanner", was just 6p.

[@gordygibson4558]

Poverty in Ireland - Lets find a minority to blame.

[@krichard2346]

The Irish people are not looking for a minority to blame. The Irish people are questioning why, if Ireland can support others, why cannot Ireland support her own? 10,000 Irish people are homeless while Irish leaders look on and do nothing but welcome outsiders with open arms.

[@B0Sajwah]

K N that actually makes a lot of sense

[@geraldneary1948]

Tool.

[@geraldneary1948]

@@krichard2346 thanks for telling the truth KN.

[@geraldneary]

troll.@@geraldneary1948

[@adamfarmer2651]

sad humanity is fucked still goes on today rich getting richer and poor getting poorer 2018

[@abegley27]

Is that the 'batter?

[@sonoftheseahound9356]

Ah the good aul days.

[@mickredmond9083]

Gur cake.

[@rdurl5086]

✝️.

[@davenusmania]

4.00

[@johnhehir508]

Dublin was the second busiest port of British empire, before Irish independence, The people of Dublin worked and supported the British empire so much that they flew the Union flag ,And other parts of Ireland called them the Dublin jackeens , After independence and civil war ,The new Irish middle and upper classes took control, And the poor working class Irish were often given the boat fare to UK and other nations,

[@DinamoDeet101]

they had to pay PEDOPHILIC CATHOLIC churche!!

[@dhss333]

Your own spoon : like the Gulag!!

[@geraldneary1948]

Troll.

[@dhss333]

Apathetic, acceptant commentary.... "A sure..." .

[@siobhanrose9515]

At least the poverty we had back then was our own, now we have our own plus the 3rd world migrants on the gravy train. Sickening.

[@christianmcgyow2251]

You do realise Ireland was pretty much a third world Country at this time ? Secondly educate yourself on your countries history , we have a log history of emigration , and we where dirt poor when we did so ,

[@noelh6523]

Yeah the big difference is we (irish) were needed to build those countries from scratch... there is no need for an influx for us theres no jobs... should concentrate on upskilling our own population not bringing other cultures in to replace us

[@christianmcgyow2251]

@@noelh6523 well yeah you can upskill yourself fairly cheaply in Ireland compared to most other countries , courses are cheap and college is cheap compared to everywhere else , immigrants normally take labour jobs , or often jobs that Irish people who are qualified i n the same field move abroad to practice as there is better pay , a better education system is needed for sure , but it is not immigrants who caused the recession and fuck the economy up , it was rich white men and bankers , this idea that the Irish where the only good immigrants is a fucking joke , Ireland needs immigrants just like the states did ,

[@noelh6523]

@@christianmcgyow2251 not really actually the fact is we were good immigrants because there was a want for us in highly skilled areas such as construction.. we added greatly to the economy.. your saying immigrants who come here are just as valuable because they generally take lower paying jobs i dont think so.. and there is a huge difference between the state of our current economy for jobs compared to a fledgeling country such as USA economy.. we literally went over n built the bridges cities n tunnels... the same cannot be said now they are worlds apart

[@extriotic]

@@christianmcgyow2251 we definitely do not "need" immigrants, what we "need" is a fresh government. Not these wishy-washy leftist globalists.

[@junkentertainment23]

So 60's were full of pensioners??

[@5888max]

In Ireland sure , most young people left for country's that were not so stifling and lacking in opportunity

[@sir243_simr]

So have you a problem with that

[@Dave68Goliath]

Ireland: We want independence. Irish Citizens: We want to move to the UK because Ireland is shit.

[@geraldneary]

U are gay maby ,troll.

[@bremnersghost948]

When a Priest looks like a Character from the Hills Have Eyes, You know that Poverty in His Parish is not far from Famine

[@sherp2u1]

The poor devils....decent men who just got left behind...I managed to get out, before the state buried me!

[@ingenuity168]

The poor should have only one child or preferably no children.

[@sparx180]

curiosity 2019 They did not have birth control pills during those times and I am assuming condoms were very expensive. Everyone had large families back in the day not only the Irish. Probably the Catholic church encouraged couples to have lots of children. Look at the Phillipines, mostly everyone is Catholic and the church is against birth control. The Church doesn't care about people. They sit on their fat arses, filling up their faces with good food. Look how many schools abused children. Sexual abuse was rampant and some even died. Horrible abuse. It is ok to sit back and judge people. Those days were back then and today's world is not much better. Now pedos run rampant, child trafficking, young babies, children being murdered by their own parents even.

[@ingenuity168]

@@sparx180 True. Children are very vulnerable and unprotected in society. I'm very ashamed of the human race. It's very uncivilised.

[@sparx180]

@@ingenuity168 I agree. Children are our most valuable commodity and look how a lot of them are treated. Thank you.

[@norfolkiceni1544]

Fake