Powder Coating Bullets On (Parchment Paper)???

[@jungleno.]

Funny. It just crossed my mind how women love watching cooking shows. Now we guys have our own!

[@elvisammo]

Hey Jun Gleno! Nice.... ! Im guilty.... I like watching these recipes myself!

[@jamespollard3066]

I blame you Elvis for getting me into powder coating bullets. I did modify my process a little. For what ever reason I get the best results when I dont let the bullets cool. I dump the bullets from my basket while they are still hot on a cookie sheet and roll them around with a gloved hand so they dont stick together. no bugers this way. Hope this may your viewers that are having problems. As alway,s great vidio.

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Nice job Elvis, I use the parchment but I'm weird I set the bullets on the base before heating.

[@jubaldurden4638]

Keep up the good work Elvis Ammo. I really like your videos. You save me a lot of time with your experiments.

[@elvisammo]

hey Juba Early. .. Thankyou for watching! you guys have really driven this conversation! Thanks!

[@paulspeers272]

Morning Elvis, I was glad to see your response to my comments this morning and had to laugh about the go fund me idea. The red that I used was the Eastwood ruby red. I used your 40/140 method. I dropped them from the screen sooner than I did the blue , still hot to the touch, and had excellent results.

[@chrossphyre]

So this is what I tried the other day with red powder from Habour Freight and Blue powder from Princess Auto. I tumbled them for 20 minutes in a vibratory tumbler with the colour. Cleaning between colours was simple and easy. The cast bullet is a Lee 124 grain tumble lube type with a truncated cone nose. I dumped the bullets out into a bowl shaped fine-mesh colander I purchased from the Dollar store. A quick shake around to remove the excess powder onto cardboard. Then I put on a nitrile glove and picked out each bullet and stood them on end on Betty Crocker silicone parchment paper (also Dollar Store) placed on a toaster oven tray. The tray went into a toaster oven and stayed there only long enough for the temperature to hit 400 degrees F twice, then the tray was dumped into a bucket of water. I did not reuse the piece of parchment paper but there was no sticking at all. Coverage was exceptional and pretty thin compared to what I'm seeing in your video Elvis. Even the bases are covered well. I'm waiting for a sizer to show up before I go out and test them but results look very encouraging so far.

[@TheSuburban15]

chrossphyre. I got very thin coats also with Eastwood Ford dark blue. After 3 coats they look pretty good except for a few you can see some shiny silver lead through the blue.

[@jonlockhart8436]

Elvis that parchment is impressive. I am really surprised.

[@rodneyhardee2527]

still like my wire mesh, has never let me down. Dad use to say if it aint broke dont fix it, and i go by pops rule. Thanks for all the good info Elvis.

[@MrCharley201]

The parchment paper looks good. Thanks for the testing.

[@redraider6881]

Great video as always. I learn so much from you. Thank you and God bless

[@paulspeers272]

Hi Elvis, I love your videos. I started casting just a few months ago after watching Fortune cookie 45lc. Then I discovered your videos and his about powder coating. I now have Lee molds for 45 colt, 44 mag, 30/06, and 357. I bought an Eastwood oven and received it last week along with the ford light blue and a red color powder. Then I bought harbor freight yellow. I used your 4/140 method on the red and yellow. I shook and cooked the blue. I am very happy with the results on them all! The bad new is, I figure you and Fortune Cookie owe me a couple hundred bucks for the molds, oven, etc.

[@elvisammo]

hey Paul Speers... thanks for the Story on getting started... Me and Fortune Cookie are always glad to bring another one in to the casting addicts association.... : ) Guess we need to set up a go fund me page, So you can recoup your grocery money! : ) ... Let me know how your Eastwood red coats compared to the ford light blue? Happy shooten my friend

[@SBSATS]

As usual loved the video. Looking forward to trying out powder coating for myself some day. That is if I can ever get all the different projects I have in process finished, lol. But that's why I have always loved this hobby...always has and will have something new to try. Thanks again.

[@elvisammo]

👍👍👍😎

[@rangerwhite1]

Looks great Elvis! I get my best results from covering my baking sheet with non stick aluminum foil and then (painstakingly) standing them each up on end with tweezers. It's a bit time consuming but for me at least yields the best finish / coating. I coat them exactly the same way you do. Also this techniques is pretty east with pistol bullets but when it comes to long skinny rifle bullets I tweeze them right onto the baking sheet IN the oven, its almost impossible to stand them up and then walk them to the oven without half of them falling over :-(

[@Thorsaxe777]

I Like how you are addressing different methods. I believe that this broadens your show quite a bit. Elvis, You have gained respect in the reloaders circle, I see that Cookie, Johnny and I feel at home mentioning you in your work over there, If I had a door on my channel,,, You wouldn't even have to knock. Think is you would have to get used to (Yankee) Pot Roast.. hehehe.. Good shooting to ya.. Dave

[@elvisammo]

hey Thorsaxe777 thanks for the kind words my friend! yea I feel right at home. ... we got a very good group of folks on here that keeps these topics going! I'm honored to be a part of it! And it's fun too! ; )

[@Thorsaxe777]

I may not be a powder coat guy, However I understand it completely. I basically do the same thing with my High Velocity Bullets by coating them with Rooster Jacket.. I got started on using that product while match shooting, I had a .444 Marlin 336 lever action I was firing cast bullets in and they leaded the Barrel somewhat, Nothing that a Chore Boy patch wouldn't take care of..That Micro groove rifling grabs a bullet like you wouldn't believe. Once I started using rooster Jacket,,, No more leading, It Bonds to the Barring surface and makes the bullet slicker going down the Barrel. I wish the weather would clear up so I could get some range time... anyway Good to hear from ya Elvis.. Dave.

[@lornebooker9001]

Yep, I really like how you've got a community thing going on here.

[@Thorsaxe777]

Lorne, We are about the enjoyment of the hobby, Some of us have a particular interest or aspect that is our passion, I feel that we function as a group and it is reciprocal between us. If I was to ask Elvis 'What would your recommend for this or that?' He would answer me back with his best advice or point out another You Tube guy that would have the Information I was looking for. Elvis know's that we are Not Know it all's and I trust him as he does with me. It's a collective knowledge base with the same goal.. You too are invited to join in Lorne.. Dave.

[@lornebooker9001]

Yep, in another video he calls his videos a conversation with us. It is a pretty cool way of doing things. He's a pretty cool guy.

[@bigal7561]

I'd forgot how much I enjoyed your vids. Keep it up

[@archersfriend]

Thanks for the continuing education.

[@elvisammo]

hey archersfriend. ... your welcome my friend!

[@LoadsofBacon]

Thanks for the mention, and the kind words! Looks like the parchment paper is a viable option. The results remind me of the silicone baking mat; the difference is, you never have to clean the paper, and you get far more uses out of the silicone. Either way appears to be a cheap and effective option. Then again, so is the wire mesh for some. I guess all these things are just theory until we try them for ourselves. There's no real risk in the experimenting; anything that doesn't work out can go right back in the melting pot to be cast again. Keep innovating, and keep these great videos coming Mr. Elvis!

[@elvisammo]

hey Loads of Bacon. ..the parchment paper was a close to perfect bullet. .. Need to know how long the silicone will last? Aprox 50 uses from 25 Sq ft. at 1 dollar on the paper. .. Thanks again!

[@LoadsofBacon]

The mat is looking like it will last longer than I care to keep track. I suggest we all buy both - make bullets on one, and cook bacon on the other. What a blessed life that will be...

[@elvisammo]

+Loads of Bacon God bless you Brother! Bacon.... loads of it! ; )

[@scottmarshall2254]

well Elvis I tried the parchment paper with the method that the bacon dude uses (standing them up on there bases) it worked perfectly I powder coated 500gr 45-70 and 100gr 327 federal mag. and 38/357 105gr & 148gr and 55gr 223 just wanted to say thanks for the good information and keep the videos coming GUNS AMMO and KNOWLEDGE you can never have to much.

[@elvisammo]

Thanks Scott Marshall... for taking the time to comment.......I'll keep em coming!

[@chrism1190]

Another great video Elvis. I was wondering if shaking them about halfway through so they rolled around would help get rid of the mark where they are laying on the paper?

[@taps_1021]

Hey elvis sometimes we just have to be open minded to others . there's always other or better ways to do things. I like the fact that your willing to try. it really helps us perfect are quality. at the end of the day I want to make the best ammo possible. Thx for the vids

[@elvisammo]

hey Danny Tapia. ..yes sir your right. ..the options of having different methods and materials is very helpful. .. I didn't really realize how many (good) options there was! : )

[@peteralexben]

with lee tumble lubing alox i used the parchment paper also to dry the bullets

[@ChevyBlazerBoy]

Hey Elvis i am new to your channel after being referred over from Johhnys Reloading bench. I am enjoying your videos and learning a hell of a lot. I haven't started casting yet though i bought a lee pot a few months ago and got a bunch of lead from my grandfather and thinking about going with the powder coat method. I am going to start with 357. I have a ruger GP100 Davidsons 5" just like yours! Can't wait.

[@elvisammo]

that's awesome ChevyBlazerBoy... so glad to help...nice revolver too! If you haven't already you should check out Fotunecookie45lc channel. Very helpful on the subject as well! Thanks again and glad to have ya over here! : )

[@bobhartman2571]

Thanks for sharing EA - excellent information.

[@elvisammo]

Your welcome Bob Hartman.... thanks for the comment!

[@countyboycansurvivegodbles9477]

that's some great shaking Elvis ammo ive been camping all weekend and couldn't watch your videos but when I got back to Wi-Fi this was the first video I watched can't wait to see another

[@elvisammo]

hey Country boy can survive God bless the USA. ... there's a whole lot a shaking going on! : ) I hope ya had a great time camping. .. thanks for watching!

[@countyboycansurvivegodbles9477]

elvis ammo No problem watching love this channel and had a great time out in the great outdoors

[@josephhomen]

Another great video, thanks!

[@christophereastman1861]

You're results are spot on to mine. Keep the videos coming

[@elvisammo]

thanks Christopher Eaton. ... I'll keep em coming. ... thanks for contributing to the subject. ..

[@HansFormerlyTraffer]

I notice you have tumble lube groove bullet mold there. Have you ever considered removing the grooves on the mold to make a straight walled bullet for a longer bearing surface. I have seen many PC guys remove the grease grooves on their 9mm molds to increase the bearing surface.

[@Kyrimfireandhobbies]

Hey Elvis you may also try non stick aluminum foil. That is what I use and it works multiple uses. Love the videos.

[@elvisammo]

hey vrodrider 1978... Thanks for the info! i'll check it out! Thanks for the feedback!

[@kylelusk8994]

Love it! I use parchment paper for my heavy bullets, (45,50 230g 30 cal) and wire mesh for the smaller ones (223,9mm)

[@elvisammo]

hey Kyle lusk ... that sounds like a pretty good system... Makes sense .....

[@gerrymatheson4020]

Explain... Why does parchment work better for the larger, heavier bullets and wire mesh for the smaller, lighter bullets? I'd think it'd be the same regardless of weight...

[@jackfrost3573]

I ruined a cookie sheet with my first attempt to powder coat and when the wife caught me...she said "why didn't you use parchment paper"? She got a new toaster oven, cookie sheet and my operation was moved into the garage but it was a good idea!

[@elvisammo]

Hey Jack Frost. ... what do ya know. ... Sometimes the wife is right! Always a first! ; )

[@brody5563]

I used parchment paper for awhile. you usually get about 4-5 oven cycles before it may start to fall apart, when I take mine out of the oven I usually shake it or jounce it to break the bullets off the parchment paper, once theyre moving I swirl them on the sheet while hold two corners of the parchment paper to keep it from tearing as easily, ive had good luck with it. I'm trying baskets right now, its not so easy to find a basket that holds 223 bullets.

[@elvisammo]

Hey Brody556... something to be said for the parchment paper..... I use my basket without a problem for the 223. I shake the powder off then set it on the oven tray and pull out 5 or 6 bullets that did a nose dive through the wire and light em up! : )

[@vengenaceearly255]

Very informative. My take with watching this and my own experience is there is no perfect answer to achieving unblemished powder coated rifle bullets. I use a low voltage powder gun. I cover a wood plank that has been drilled for the size bullets and cover with non stick aluminum foil. I set the bullets in the holes and shoot them. Then bake them. They would turn out perfect except there is flashing around the near base of the bullets where they set in the holes. The bottom of the base itself is powder coated . So they are not perfect. But does it matter ? Only shooting them will tell. Not to mention the right powder/bullet grain combo testing. PS this only applies to rifle powder coating in my opinion. Your shake and bake method is the way to go for me if I were powder coating handgun bullets. Nice talkin to ya . I haven't for got to send out your package. But we have a new dobe puppy "trudi 10 weeks old " to work with right now.

[@elvisammo]

Hey Vengenace Early... It seems everyone has their own level of OCD. It boils down to the satisfaction level of the individual. I too spend a little more time to perfect my rifle bullets. Tell little trudi elvis ammo says hi! glad to hear about your new little friend...... : )

[@robertpagel8951]

Running my first batches of powder coated bullets this past weekend. All things being equal to what you do Elvis. I used the wire mesh tray, my results were not that good. My first batch was ford light blue, went 350 for 20 minutes and when I pulled my 230 grain missiles apart it pulled the coat off with it. Second batch was Eastwood red at 400 degrees for 20 min and I dropped my count back a little. Got the same results just a little better but not much. 3rd batch was Eastwood white and those were blotchy. My prep was no different so I don't get it. Perhaps I will try the paper.

[@CmaxArms]

I'll try that!......finally something I already have!

[@elvisammo]

hey Cmax Arms. .. that's funny: ) you cracked me up. .. I can relate to that! ; )

[@alanedgmon8371]

OK Elvis I do value your videos very highly do you ever apply the powder twice to the bullet quiet bake it apply it and then bake it is there benefits is there cons to that

[@markhalverson6747]

Where can you get rolls of the silicone sheeting?

[@nickl1682]

Hey my brother. The paper looks good . I'm sure some brownies would look good also . Good video keep them comming.

[@elvisammo]

hey brother Nick L.... some brownies sound awesome. .. The parchment paper won't go to waste after all! ; )

[@independentthinker8930]

I'm thinking of trying something out of the norm, powder coating maxi balls for my muzzle loader

[@DW-uu1lz]

EA - Before I started using mesh, I used to use crinkled sheets of of non-stick Aluminum Foil. It seemed to work real well but nothing is easier then the mesh..... with very few rejects....

[@DW-uu1lz]

BTW, I crinkle the foil to lesson the contact points on the bullets that you get from a flat sheet of parchment paper..

[@elvisammo]

+d Klawbohr good idea! f I r the aluminum or parchment paper! thanks for that. .. I like my wire mesh too!

[@cnelson1978]

hey elvis, hey, where do you get your mesh basket? I get that it's from bed bath and beyond but, is it a soap basket? what am I looking for when I go to the store? thanks!

[@ocean374]

I did a video on powder coating this was my first attempt what you think I'm always on for input thanks

[@spyhunter6411]

I use parchment paper, works like a champ

[@elvisammo]

hey John Chaplick. .. yea I have heard of these methods alot. After my last video comparing wite mesh to silicone. .. I had to try this and share! Nice!

[@lifewithmarleyandjon4616]

elvis ammo thank you for your content. You've got me into casting my own 300 blackout subs.

[@elvisammo]

hey Jon Draper... YaY... Another Cast Addict! : ) Thanks for the comment!

[@ullakuut28]

Goor morning Mr. Elvis Ammo.... i coated some bullets .223 with Eastwood bright Red. Result is real nice for bullet with gaz checks and with out gaz check. My problem is: I expanded the mouth of my brass not to dammage the bullet but still i was able to see lead at few places when sitting the bullets . Is it that i did not cook long enough? ( 300F x 20 Min. ) OR i Loaded the bullet too soon ( no curing ) Please HELP. Thanks. Mike

[@edadpops1709]

Boy if a guy could get ahold of a paint can shaker that would be cool

[@thesurplusfirearm2374]

You've probably have gone over this before, but can you powder coat a gas check designed Bullet? I only have molds that are set up for a check.

[@elvisammo]

Hey Surplus Firearm.... Yeah you can powder coat them no problem, The check end just serves as a boat tail. I've even checked them and then powder coated just for fun!

[@thesurplusfirearm2374]

Thanks Elvis!!! Because of your vids, you've inspired me to try the world of powder coat. I've always hated shooting straight lead in my semi autos. I think coating them will be the ticket

[@pcbulletempire9872]

I've been using non-stick foil but I think that's the cat's meow that parchment paper going to have to try that least it's going to be cheaper

[@elvisammo]

Hey Timothy Robinson... Yea I was surprised! That stuff works!

[@pcbulletempire9872]

hey Elvis bought parchment paper Friday cast bullets Saturday Sunday use the parchment paper for my coating and loved it a lot better than the non-stick foil will be using parchment paper from now on thank you

[@elvisammo]

hey Timothy Robinson. ..yeah I've used it a couple times. . it works out nicely!

[@luismanuelangelruiz9475]

Hi elvis ammo! Did you try with aluminium foil?

[@wdcjunk]

What was your bake time and temp?

[@grantatkinson5531]

thank for doing that video. it's like a birthday gift to me. makes me feel like I helped a bit. I haven't tryed rifle bullets yet. I will be doing so soon. you should try putting them in water when they come out of the oven. I only have a few that stick together. do you think that water could hurt the process? I'm going to try a comparison with the smash test. As usual keep up the good work on keeping us up to date with the whole reloading process.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Grant Atkinson - I saw a video of a guy in Europe who was using water also. He said the same thing, that he didn't have much sticking together. At the time Elvis hadn't seen much difference between using water or not. But it could be worth exploring further, since you have also had some success. In my mind, an ideal surface would be a silicone coated wire mesh. But I wouldn't have any idea of where to find such a contraption for testing.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Grant Atkinson - I'm glad to. I'm getting back into casting after a long hiatus, and "progress continues" keeps coming to mind. I'm comparing what I knew "back then" with what Elvis is doing now. I am learning some new stuff. It also feels good to chime in once in a while with information that has fallen by the wayside. FortuneCookieLC45 has a good channel too. He, too, remembers most of what I do, but he has not had any hiatus like I have.

[@grantatkinson5531]

Kirk Boswell dosent it feel good shooting your own bullets. I can't even guess how much I have spent on bullets. Molding my own bullets and powder coating them makes perfect sense. have you ever been stopped by someone at the range about your powder coated bullets? it is fun talking to people about them. I'm glad Elvis Ammo is on KZbin. I have learned so much. I have checked out FC45LC and a few others. I watch Elvis Ammo the most. good information.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Grant Atkinson - Yes, it does feel good!!! And while I was hesitant about powder coating at first, it seems to be the answer for a number of issues. No need to cast really hard bullets, or to use gas checks, or a high performance lube, etc. And, cast bullets have typically been limited to 2400 fps or less, no matter what you did, unless you wanted leaded barrels. PC bullets seem to be performing close to what jacketed bullets do, and speeds of 3300 fps are being reported by several shooters, and no issues with leading. I'm quite sure, personally, that factory speeds and performance are going to be achieved with continued experience with PC bullets. Just an FYI for you. My hiatus was due to a ring on my finger, an a desire for peace after work. That particular anchor is no longer an issue.

[@grantatkinson5531]

Kirk Boswell I'm lucky my better half sends me to my loading room. I must either a bad boy or annoying.😀 I do my best. just kidding she like to shoot. She has a 2" J frame .357. She is only 5'1" and 110 soaking wet but I wouldn't piss her off. I'm looking forward to casting .308, .223 soon. I can't wait to see what I can do. I hope I don't blow anything up. that would suck.

[@toddnewsome5011]

Did u buy a new 230 gr mold or did u use the same mold u cast the zinc bullets in just curious how u fixed the dent in the bullet base the zinc left

[@elvisammo]

hey Todd Newsom. . I already had plenty made up.... but I do have another one! Your memory is working! ! ; )

[@toddnewsome5011]

elvis ammo 👍🏻

[@ocean374]

Hi Elvis good morning I ran into a slight problem hope you can help me I'm loading 9mm tc cast bullet in the lee Manual the min oal 1.125 and its to long won't chamber the powder I'm using is not listed in the Lyman book so I can't use there size what should I do here thanks

[@johnpetersen5611]

ocean374 it might be because you crimping and seating the bullet in the same step. I seat those to about 107 but have experience your problem when seating and crimping with the same die because the case is. Closed but your still pushing the bullet in

[@elvisammo]

hey ocean374. .. the TC. has a moe specific crimping area like some of our 38 and 357 for instance. when looking for info in our data. .I would suggest using hp. data since the bullet resembles the hp, as it's missing the tip. my lyman data gives a min oal. of 1.075 that is more in line with where the bullet should seat. As always double check the info and work up loads for safety. Hope this helps!

[@ocean374]

John Petersen thanks for the help

[@ocean374]

elvis ammo thanks for the help

[@trido9597]

Hi Mr Elvis. I got Lee mold. 124 gn round nose. When I'm casting they're came out 127 gn or 128 gn. Is that normal? Because I got 357 mold 158 gn they're different 1 gn.

[@taps_1021]

Tri Do yes that's normal mine come out at 130 gr. make sure you use load data for that weight bullet.

[@elvisammo]

hey Tri Do. .. yea it's kinda normal. . that seems a little on the extreme. .. not real bad. when you drop bullets check the weight of each cavity that drops and measure each one. this will tell ya what cavity or cavities are the problem. .. also make sure your mold is closing all the way. . by holding up to the light. .. if it is too bad and is a problem. .. Lee will replace it for you! A wooded dowel or popsicle stick is good to scrape the mold out really good... this works wonders for me! hope this helps!

[@trido9597]

elvis ammo thank to make really good video. Start reloading from you. First i do harbor freight powder coat I can't do well. I'm using hiteck coat. Working very good take a bit time. Just got my oder Eastwood powder. Ford light bl and dark green. I'm going try it now 😁. Thank you.

[@trido9597]

Hi LeverAction Gypsy i use wheels weights and mix with foundry type. I cast 2 different mold same time. And 9mm 124gn different 3gr around there. And 38 special 158gn some different 1 gn. Same pot lead. That why make me confused. Anyway thanks you for give me information to lean more about casting bullet. Thanks you.

[@trido9597]

LeverAction Gypsy thank you sir.

[@curtisjames9081]

what happened to the 4 for 140 method? and have you done any of the greens from eastwood and had good results or is the Ford light blue the easiest color to use?

[@elvisammo]

Hey Curtis James.... i still use the 4-140 for the harbor freight powders. The ford light Blue is a very easy powder to use Just shake and bake... I also use Eastwood dark Green and it works great... It looks like (most) of the Eastwood virgin powders are contenders....

[@curtisjames9081]

elvis ammo thanks for replying bud I'm gonna order some dark green I'm just not a blue person your the man!

[@elvisammo]

Hey Curtis James... It wouldn't hurt to order another color that you think you'll like to go with it. to give a try. Since your ordering. Just a suggestion. I even have some mixes that I really like! Happy Powder Coating my Friend!

[@trido9597]

curtis James i got dark green they're coat good and nice too. I liked I also oder sample kit 5 color I think. Still wait to try it.

[@EagleEyeShooting]

curtis James. I currently use eastwood Lime Green. They coat awsome! Check out FortuneCookie45LC's channel I believe he has a video of other eastwood powders he has tried

[@kylelusk8994]

Do not! DO NOT use wax paper. Trust me! All that does is re flux your melting pot

[@bustabass9025]

25 feet of parchment paper for $1 buck, use a fresh piece for each preparation for Christ's sake! C'mon man.