Power Your Home With Your GM Electric Vehicle: GM Energy's Home Energy System With PowerBank

[@davekoehler9624]

Solar, batteries, and backup whole house backup generator really is a great way to do it. I love the integration Enphase has on their system. I would love vehicle to home integration but Enphase doesn’t have to option yet. Not that I need it but will probably add it once it’s becomes available. The system works flawlessly and you never really run out of power in any situation.

[@krkope8277]

Tom, a comment and a question. First, I saw your comment on BI that you're concentrating on energy infrastructure videos vs things like first drives, and this post shows why that's exactly the right way to go. No one I know of is covering this stuff like you, and it's really kind of the next frontier for the fast follower set. Great stuff. Question: isn't a very big issue for these systems, Ford included, the fact that there's no 3rd party standards-setting body defining how all this stuff should work together? So the manufacturers are all going their own way, and it locks you into a producer's specific solution even as your needs, and technology, change? I'd hate to spring for a system like this and be chained to always having a GM vehicle in the driveway. Or do I have this wrong? Also, thanks for the Bolt question. I was wondering the same thing.

[@techgeek6848]

Beautiful system and great overview, but I'll still take my I5 and V2L and use it like a backup generator and save $$$

[@im4udevco]

I'm glad options are now available for using your EV to power your home in an emergency albeit the high cost. If I can just get a simple inverter that can just convert the DC to AC and I can decide what to do with it, that's all I need. I'm also hoping EV makers can make this universal (Big Wish). I'm still waiting for Rivian to get its act together on V2H system.

[@simplygregsterev]

Congrats on 100k Subs Tom!

[@karensandberg6226]

I’m still waiting for Qmerit to give me my estimate for installation. Looks like a great system.

[@paulwinter9672]

Great video as usual, thanks.

[@mrdsn189]

Thank you

[@Yanquetino]

While still employed in years past, I managed to install rooftop solar, buy an EV, and add 2 Powerwalls to my system. However, now that I'm barely scraping by in retirement, I just don't have the funds anymore to invest in great products like these V2H devices. Well… when and if the grid goes down and then my Powerwalls have been drained completely, at least I will be able to tap into my EV's V2L to power only essential appliances like my 'fridge and freezer. That's about the best I'll be able to do.

[@Dactylonian]

Sounds like you made wise investments with the tech available at the time. You’re a trend setter and I look up to you!

[@thenetworkarchitectchannel]

I love this product suite so much I was hooting & hollering at the TV through most of the video. Thanks you for the superb content. I loved watching this video.🤯🤯‼❣❣💪🦖

[@OverlordActual]

Great video Tom. Thanks Derek! You both did great.

[@omarastacio3939]

Great job as always.

[@firstbigbarney]

Is this compatible with all vehicles?Multiple vehicles? NACS plug??

[@trpblr]

At what point will these V2H systems be universal? Meaning I can plug an EV from any manufacturer into this GM home power system? Given the current climate of EV's and the drastic depreciation I don't see myself purchasing, I prefer to lease. So at the end of a 3 year lease with a Silverado or Blazer and shelling out all the money for this system what then? I am stuck only buying GM EV's at this point? These need to be open to all EV's not just brand specific before they are truly worth purchasing, at least in my view. I love the idea and would be a potential customer, but I don't know that I could commit until they are more universal.

[@tojesky]

This is a valid concern. These systems need to be universal.

[@bowefamilyEV]

Absolutely 💯 this. It’s annoying they didn’t all standardize V2H. It’s the CCS, CHAdeMO NACS problem all over again. Like we don’t learn the first time

[@John-209]

Never

[@tedspradley]

Nail has been struck squarely on the head.

[@John-209]

@@trpblr why beat around the bush?

[@guycoletta6466]

Exciting future!

[@mbenchimolam]

I just traded my F150 lightning for the GMC Sierra ev and I already have the bi-directional ford pro charger that I never installed , I wonder if it is compatible with the GMC Sierra EV.

[@johnthick2298]

A very smart play by GM, allot of legacy automakers will go out of business in the future.

[@FuncleChuck]

I can’t wait to install V2X but I want it in a vehicle that isn’t already the size of a house

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Then get an Equinox EV like I did. It has V2H capability also.

[@lpdirv]

The RamCharger is going to knock it out of the park. Best of both worlds for backup at home and camping. This is fine in temperate climates, but for us northerners can really use a serial hybrid EV. RamCharger for towing will be so good. Why cant we have a skid-mounted range extender in the Frunk as an option.

[@rick_n_tx]

Wish you would have asked why the Hummer EV isn’t supported.

[@Aegisx5]

My question is if you install this whole system for a GM vehicle, and then switch to a Ford or other brand that is fully V2H capable, is it possible to modify it to work with the new vehicle from another brand? Or would you have to buy and replace the entire system for the new vehicle? Seems like a big investment if it's the latter.

[@stevesmith-sb2df]

Thanks for covering the GM system. Trump might kill the 30% tax rebate. Makes the future look rather uncertain.

[@mjs8554]

I have a problem that no one seems to be able to solve. Regarding charging a 2023 Cadillac Lyriq debut edition. I have both adapters. One for Tesla superchargers purchased from Cadillac and one for level two Tesla destination chargers, purchased from Lectron. Recently went to the winter parking garage at Mohegan Casino in Connecticut, where they have 20 new Tesla destination chargers. Tried to use the Lectron that I have previously used at a local hotel. It would not work. Was I supposed to use the level three adapter?

[@chriswestenskow5202]

How will this system work with GM EVs when they have a native NACS port? The system will only have acces to either the DC power, or AC for charging, not both at the same time like CCS does.

[@michael.sierra]

Will this work with Honda Prologue?

[@lawrenceasero2207]

What is an approximate installation cost for a system like this? Great video as usual!

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

It's REALLY hard to say. Every home is so drastically different with regard to access for wiring, distance to the service panel, and the system's capacity. You really need to have an estimate, but I would imagine the installation cost would start at around $3K and go up from there.

[@electricandlspower]

If u could get 30% on the truck also would be cool. Its part of the system. Lol😅

[@mimijo15]

What about if i have a ford and a GM what system can i use that will allow me to use both Vehicles to power the home without having to buy 2 seperate systems?

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Right now, unfortunately, you can't. The systems aren't compatible.

[@CraigMatsuura]

I sure wish GM would fix that app to work better. Itm ight not just be the app but how quickly it gets data from the vehicle. The app is also pretty limited compared to For,d Audi and Hyundai (and especially Tesla). Lookin for some software updates from GM on the App and vehicle.

[@samatwesu]

$10,000 for 17.7 kWh vs $28,000 for Equinox EV with 85 kWh capacity, motor and wheels.

[@ab-tf5fl]

Yeah, for some reason, batteries cost far more kWh when not part of an EV.

[@ab-tf5fl]

Really like the idea, but I feel that the cost, at the moment is still too high. For this to really take off, the up-front cost of an EV-based power system needs to be cheaper than the cost of a gas generator, it needs to work with all EVs, even the cheapest models, and it needs to be compatible across all brands of cars. I think, at some point, it will happen. Today, it's not quite there yet.

[@electricandlspower]

I want to know if the wall inverter is taking high voltage from the truck?

[@chriswestenskow5202]

How else would it get energy from the truck? Inverters convert DC to AC, so the connection to the truck has to be DC.

[@bobjohnson4512]

I think it is good the EV makers are working on powering a house from an EV but I would like to see more of an effort to work with the dozens of inverters and batteries that already exist. Today I can charge my solar system batteries from my Lightning for much less than Ford's or GM's proprietary system. It might not be as sophisticated but it works and will keep the lights on.

[@electricandlspower]

Is the power bank high voltage? Or 48v ?

[@SamuelJackson-v5b]

Why does the switch over take so long when you have attached storage, it should be milliseconds. I can understand when it’s only the truck because you may need to wake it up, but not when you have a 10 kWh battery attached.

[@TaxmanHog]

I hope the GM Energy system is more reliable than the Ford home integration system is!

[@samatwesu]

Max solar 12,000 Watts.

[@patrickmcginnis219]

GM has other EVs. Why not have this system work with ALL GM EVs?

[@anton_grahn]

The Cybertrucks on-board AC conversion feels like the future, especially compared to this type of system!

[@SamuelJackson-v5b]

So Tom, This GM Energy guy said you could not do Energy arbitrage with your truck, but this one said you could and you are in both videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4W6eXiBhJp1bLc

[@oj9886]

Why can’t we use the vehicle power without outage

[@patrickr9416]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyI was watching for this too, Tom. I’ve been talking to GM Energy about this, and it is not capable of using power from the car in a TOU model because power can only come from the car during an outage. Offsetting TOU only works with the home battery. The GM guy said it at least twice - that powering the house with the car when there is not an outage is not available yet. We were about to get a demo of car-to-home during the grid power cut at 22:20, but then moved on to other topics. I did see a change in the app at 23:45 when green power line started to go truck-to-house. However that was during the demo power outage. This is a pretty big fail for GM. With this system, when you also buy the powerbank, they are offering something that Tesla has been doing for about 10 years now. It’s not cutting edge at all. Their talk about spending so much time examining the use cases falls flat when they somehow didn’t support the obvious use case of seamlessly sending power back and forth between car and house to store more solar, optimize TOU, or just derive more value from an investment of possibly over 100k. And even if they add this capability later, the incoming federal administration might have eliminated all tax credits and other incentives which make this whole deal more affordable. It’s a fail on understanding value for the customer, on implementing established technology, or at the very least on timing. Your video, however, was perfectly timed. Thank you. Now I have clarity that I shouldn’t invest in this system. I’ll wait with my fingers crossed that it might be affordable, and more functional, later.

[@Andre-cj3ec]

If I can't use the system to shift my usage of the grid to when power cost less, I will never recoup the cost of the system or get my utility (in Canada) to subsidize the system. Good initial effort, but not a viable option for wide adoption

[@dslay04]

GM needs to open this up to work with other Battery systems and Vehicle manufacturers. GM has a long gistory if abandonfing projects and platforms

[@stacybehrens7152]

It’s inexcusable for any electric vehicle to not have the built in capability to provide backup power during a home power outage. Looking especially at you Tesla - I don’t need a Powerwall when my car has a huge battery already. Every car should be able to do this, not just a couple of pickups with a bunch of extra electronics. Should just need a transfer switch for safety and the charger (with inverter) should handle the rest automatically.

[@ab-tf5fl]

Absolutely agree. Just had a power outage. Being able to sit in the car with the heat on definitely helped, as did using the car's USB ports to charge my cell phone. But, I would have much preferred to simply use the energy in the car's battery back to run the lights and heat pump for my actual living space.

[@stevelowry9428]

Bought a Silverado EV, don't want to buy more batteries. Why can't I just use the truck!

[@MegaHops1]

It would be nice if it didn't take an act of God to get the Ford system working. It has been extremely frustrating with all the buck-passing that goes on between Sun Run and Ford. Tom acts like it's just plug-and-play, but it is not even close.

[@randya9143]

I installed the Ford system 2 weeks ago and can't for the life of me get Sunrun to even answer the phone or call me back.

[@MegaHops1]

@ if you notice Tom doesn't say a word about the Ford/Sunrun debacle. Wonder why?

[@FoamCrusher]

Oh, great. I spend $15K and up to add to a $75K Lyriq that will be controlled by a piece of garbage MyCadillac app! This system will be fine if it is coupled to a Silverado PU, but it needs to be useful for more than that one GM vehicle.

[@ayeomandvl]

Not being able to use it as arbitrage is a deal breaker. It kills any ROI. Typical of an automaker only concerned with warranty claims on the vehicle.

[@SamuelJackson-v5b]

GM Energy needs to get there act together, this guy said you could use the truck and said they had tested it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4W6eXiBhJp1bLc

[@chriswestenskow5202]

It's too bad that none of this conforms to any standards, so it will ikely never work with any other EVs except for those GM models designed to work with this particular system. It is essentially proprietary, just like the Ford and Tesla systems are. People who invest this kind of money in a system like this want it to work with the EV thay own today as well as the EVs they will buy for the next 20 years, regardless of brand. The future of V2X needs to be non-proprietary to justify the investment in a system that will take decaades to break even.

[@randya9143]

Hope their system is easy to commission. Ford / SunRun is a complete joke.

[@lpdirv]

The RamCharger is going to knock it out of the park. Best of both worlds for backup at home and camping. This is fine in temperate climates, but for us northerners can really use a serial hybrid EV. Why cant we have a skid mounted range extender in the frunk.

[@mowcowbell]

Or head to your local Harbor Freight and pick up a gas/propane generator for around $1K that will handle it all all without using your vehicle.

[@shanevenhorst4304]

Great, a system using probably the worst software in the EV industry. I love my bolt, but the my Chevrolet app is complete garbage compared to Tesla Ford and others.

[@guycoletta6466]

Software on the equinox EV is top-notch. The navigation does an amazing job of knowing how many miles you’re gonna have left when you get to a destination and helping you to find and add chargers when creating a route. I give them A+ for the equinox EV. And I’m in the Apple ecosystem not having CarPlay does not bother me.

[@chriso847]

Cool. But still waiting for cars (not trucks) sold today to have V2L. Still not widely available. 🥲

[@chriso847]

Everything in EV progress takes too long. Range has been stagnant at 240-270 miles for many years. Supercharger network from IRA money no new chargers yet. TO SLOW. now Trump clawing back all the progress. We took too long. Ford and GM just keeps seeking big gas guzzlers. 🥲