Which monumental motor will make the most horsepower... the Chevy 454 or the Ford 460? Joe and Mike build one of each in the HorsePower shop. Then, a showdown on the dyno will determine which is the baddest.
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@wiktorjachyra18693 жыл бұрын
Wow...you can clearly see what bias their show always goes to when building engines🙄
@turkin73k10 ай бұрын
yup they build the chevy motor better with better parts and more parts.
@Jake-fm5oe26 күн бұрын
Typical Ford guys... always crying about losing 😂😂
@overbuiltautomotive12993 жыл бұрын
would have like to have seen Jon kaase heads on ford
@falconater683 жыл бұрын
Yet another invalid comparison....pointless.
@phantomnus3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a big block Pontiac, Olds, Buick and Mopar builds
@veteranvtx2683 жыл бұрын
Pontiac doesn't have a big block
@garyroberts48373 жыл бұрын
Mopar man myself
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
i am guess it's an intermediate block.
@RalphRomano23 жыл бұрын
All I see is hidden parts for the Chevy, missing pictures for the heads intake ports too. Missing information on the cam, and SUDDENLY getting the results you want. If those are even the real numbers. After reading the comments, you can tell NOBODY is fooled. How to lose customers and views is the reason RIGHT HERE in this video.
@ashleywilson53123 жыл бұрын
Not a fair comparison unless you put comparative identical parts. When you put better parts ( even though budget the same) you will get better performance.
@bigblockford30593 жыл бұрын
Make sure you get that Chevy motor upgraded rotating assembly because she'll come undone with the factory stuff. Now it's even. Factory Ford rotating assembly and aftermarket Chevrolet rotating assembly
@TrumpAmerica-20243 жыл бұрын
upvote your own comment 🤣 🤣 🤣
@joshtheking17723 жыл бұрын
...and still cheaper than Stock Ford. Hmmm?
@jimgould28293 жыл бұрын
Ford factory 460 heads definitely leave something to desire...they don't flow as well as factory 454 heads.Thats a big reason why the Chevy made so much more power not to mention the cam was a little bigger 😎
@pudnbug2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of that 454 - like Bob Falfa's Chevy in American Graffiti. Vrooom! Interesting, though, that the Ford's stock crank can handle 700 hp vs only 500 on the 454. Sounds like the Ford is the way to go.
@CoyoteFTW2 жыл бұрын
Ford always been the way to go
@markbulva41882 жыл бұрын
I forgot how poorly they actually compared these engines.
@craigfiles70673 жыл бұрын
You can not have fair comparison unless every part is the same on each engine like having a modified points distributor on ford but a hi output mallory on chevy as the mallory has better spark output and curve also cams have to have same lift, duration and lsa. Piston design also changes performance
@terrypikaart43943 жыл бұрын
I agree!. Should have left chevy bottom end alone, and same heads as close as possible. Same compression and cam. First test was a little better..
@177SCmaro3 жыл бұрын
Then you'd be building two identical engines and there wouldn't be much point. Also, at the stock power and rpm level, there won't be much difference between points and hei. What the main difference here is likely heads. Even truck heads on a 454 are probably a little better then truck heads on a 460. Once they built them up a little they essentially performed the same.
@Horrible_Deplorable2 жыл бұрын
@@177SCmaro I think the point in comparing them was to compare apples to apples. Not factory to performance.
@turkin73k10 ай бұрын
They always do this make they chevy motor better cause they are sponsored by GM.
@jimrutin2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a dog in this fight but I sure can smell the bias.
@coreycarter84693 жыл бұрын
I love how they are so aggressive when removing parts and installing them. Fkn ripping that shit. Poor cam bearings lol
@kidsteach9382 жыл бұрын
Solid roller cam for the Chevy, hyd roller for the Ford...bigger heads chosen for the Chevy...why not put a turbo on the Chev, and really win big?
@Jerry-up8bk8 ай бұрын
Yeah WHY NOT CHEAT MORE with the Chevy DUH !
@curtisgerbrandt47493 жыл бұрын
Thats a biased build the chevy cam was bigger than the ford and the chevy pistons had a very small dish ...come on guys build a fair comparison same pistons same cam same heads then lets see the numbers
@joshtheking17723 жыл бұрын
Nice video but I dont agree with the cam choice for the Chevy. They should have used Hydraulic on both engines. The torque on the Ford boils down to cubic inches though. Nice engines definitely, but worlds apart based on Camshafts.
@CR-vu1rt3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the original TNN shows added to this channel. The original episodes of Horsepower with Joe and Chuck were great !
@jameshood36923 жыл бұрын
.494 lift on a big block and probably low duration🤨🤨, let that 460 suck some air come on
@billybullfrog2 жыл бұрын
Torque wins races, Hp sells cars and speed parts from a bias show
@thefuzzyone32832 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Torque gets you where you need to go.
@colinl5951 Жыл бұрын
I'm putting a 460 in a '56 Chevy.
@Jerry-up8bk8 ай бұрын
SWEET REVENGE!
@ScottM5.029 күн бұрын
TT Coyote C7 would embarrass any Euro offering.
@Richptl1 Жыл бұрын
Budget build Ford cost $80 more. Performance build the Chevy got a new crankshaft. Seems like the performance Chevy build cost a lot more than the Ford. Prices not listed. Chevy only did better above 5,500 rpm. The Ford would do better on the street or in a 1/4 mile drag. Chevy wins on the dyno or on a long track.
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor Жыл бұрын
What years are they comparing.. a late 60's early 70's 460 as example is 400 horse, where as a 80's 460 is like 190 horse! SAME with the 454
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
The 385 series 460 is an inline valve arrangement. The BBC is a canted valve arrangement, much like a ford cleveland headed engine.
@mwyson409510 ай бұрын
The 460s are canted valves as well
@zAvAvAz10 ай бұрын
oh maybe i was confused with a different engine that was a stroker 460 of the other engine family oops. thanks for the correction.@@mwyson4095
@turkin73k10 ай бұрын
Chevy only has more HP because they put more into it as always this why i really do not like this show very much.
@coreygrosz61273 жыл бұрын
Love the show bin build motors for long time personally myself I play with big block Fords but I've built many big block mopars many big block Chevys big block Buicks Pontiacs even a few Oldsmobiles and there was nothing comparable from the beginning of these builds to the end of these builds that was the same between these two engines they were completely different from beginning to end find that rather disappointing that they didn't pay closer attention to detail with compression distributor camshaft design Ford had a hydraulic Chevy had a solid roller way way difference there alone plus compression ratios from beginning to end otherwise I wish you guys have a lot of fun next time if you want to compare engines compare engines appropriately thank you
@markhodgins972 жыл бұрын
So you build a full motor chevy, heads intake and cam on a ford. Poor chevy barely beat a stock bottom ford
@Richptl1 Жыл бұрын
Very similar numbers. Chevy a little more power and Ford more torque over much of the rpm range. Should have given $$$ spent on each build.
@bigredracer78483 жыл бұрын
24👍's up guys thanks again for taking us all along with you
@rickyallaroundfisherman93893 жыл бұрын
Looks like there might be a little bias here
@thefuzzyone32832 жыл бұрын
They spent 2380 on the ford and 2300 on the chevy but dude said the chevy was 200 cheaper than the ford. Lmao
@Horrible_Deplorable2 жыл бұрын
Careful, your bias is showing.
@gregd80383 жыл бұрын
Not fair comparison. Didn’t use same parts for every build. Re do that and I’ll watch
@richardsargent1132 жыл бұрын
Give the 460 a good distributor.. first run was apples and oranges
@A-BONEpickup3 жыл бұрын
hydraulic roller vs solid roller ?
@josephfigueroa35273 жыл бұрын
So, essentially if you slap on heads and an intake that flow more air you make more power. WOW.
@NailedITLV3 ай бұрын
Idk who yall are going to for machining but all the local shops have a 2500 minimum.
@antilaw9911 Жыл бұрын
You told the cam lift spec on the Ford, then you told the cam duration spec on the chevy. Chevy probably got way more lift too. How do you say that's a fair dyno war?
@robertredmond77 Жыл бұрын
He chevy had more cam, pistons rods and a performance ignition. I watche a ford put down 440 hp 650tq at the wheels with a stage 1 turbo
@mwyson409510 ай бұрын
You sabotaged the Ford by putting a comp cam in it.
@karhlhenselien22609 ай бұрын
Both have enough grunt to pull a house down 👍👍
@macenbarmore19003 жыл бұрын
Real fair comparison
@perryhubbard21523 жыл бұрын
Where is 440 build lol
@TrumpAmerica-20243 жыл бұрын
a 426 hemi or 440 would blow the doors off of the 454 and 460. both mopars are 500 hp from the factory.
@I_like_turtles_673 жыл бұрын
@@TrumpAmerica-2024 You're wrong about those factory HP numbers.
@luketilley91375 ай бұрын
68 to 97
@clydeprather9412 жыл бұрын
Worked @ Zion N.P. Lodge from '97 'till '99; Transportation Department. Drove 2 3/4 ton Ford vans--- both equipment with a 7.5 Litre/460 CID ENGINE!!!
@suonsiahomestay68053 жыл бұрын
Good to see it on the road again.
@kevinhutton1033 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a 68 Cady with a all stock 474, I would like to know that it's all stock HP and torch was ? And see a build up from their.
@bmstylee3 жыл бұрын
This is cool and all but can you guys upload the Super Dually project. That thing was mean.
@GODZILLATORINORACING3 жыл бұрын
Great content, keep it coming
@remix26official543 жыл бұрын
woow
@kenwood94013 жыл бұрын
using and chain timing better then gear timing upgrading my 5.7
@joshtheking17723 жыл бұрын
Almost no difference. Gear driven are just too damn noisy, when you can go with a double roller and see no benefit from one or the other. Base your choice on cost.
@kenwood94013 жыл бұрын
@@joshtheking1772 thank you just wondering
@Horrible_Deplorable2 жыл бұрын
@@kenwood9401 you can get quiet gear drives.
@celsocastillo3853 жыл бұрын
✌💯
@mikelovin72 жыл бұрын
The best part about this video is the butthurt comment section... 🤣
@Wbfuhn3 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between Ford and Chevy, I'd choose Toyota. To be serious I would get the Chevy LS 350. Not going to go high performance, just reliable V8 from America.
@CoyoteFTW3 жыл бұрын
351 Windsor, 460 rock solid engines don’t go off what you hear
@dustinparker98212 жыл бұрын
Chevy performance all the way big block Chevy 454
@TrumpAmerica-20243 жыл бұрын
more gm and ford junk 👎👎
@CoyoteFTW3 жыл бұрын
Mopar is trash!!
@TrumpAmerica-20243 жыл бұрын
moron above me
@Horrible_Deplorable2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to..?
@bluesky-ud9wg2 жыл бұрын
The 460 was and still is a boat anchor. The heads suck, terrible, etc. It was never meant to be a HP engine, only to move 5000 lb cars...
@Horrible_Deplorable2 жыл бұрын
Even with the bias, it didn't do much worse than the BBC. So much for being a boat anchor.
@rickwho23147 ай бұрын
Man the bias is they call fair. WHAT A JOKE
@I_like_turtles_673 жыл бұрын
So they swapped pistons. The crank. Gave the Chevy a bigger roller cam & it made a little more horsepower than the stock bottom end. Hyd roller Ford motor. Seems legit.