Time To Put A Chevy 454 And Ford 460 To The Ultimate Horsepower Test - Horsepower S13, E23

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POWERNATION 2

POWERNATION 2

Күн бұрын

Which monumental motor will make the most horsepower... the Chevy 454 or the Ford 460? Joe and Mike build one of each in the HorsePower shop. Then, a showdown on the dyno will determine which is the baddest.

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@wiktorjachyra1869
@wiktorjachyra1869 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...you can clearly see what bias their show always goes to when building engines🙄
@turkin73k
@turkin73k 10 ай бұрын
yup they build the chevy motor better with better parts and more parts.
@Jake-fm5oe
@Jake-fm5oe 26 күн бұрын
Typical Ford guys... always crying about losing 😂😂
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 3 жыл бұрын
would have like to have seen Jon kaase heads on ford
@falconater68
@falconater68 3 жыл бұрын
Yet another invalid comparison....pointless.
@phantomnus
@phantomnus 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a big block Pontiac, Olds, Buick and Mopar builds
@veteranvtx268
@veteranvtx268 3 жыл бұрын
Pontiac doesn't have a big block
@garyroberts4837
@garyroberts4837 3 жыл бұрын
Mopar man myself
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
i am guess it's an intermediate block.
@RalphRomano2
@RalphRomano2 3 жыл бұрын
All I see is hidden parts for the Chevy, missing pictures for the heads intake ports too. Missing information on the cam, and SUDDENLY getting the results you want. If those are even the real numbers. After reading the comments, you can tell NOBODY is fooled. How to lose customers and views is the reason RIGHT HERE in this video.
@ashleywilson5312
@ashleywilson5312 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fair comparison unless you put comparative identical parts. When you put better parts ( even though budget the same) you will get better performance.
@bigblockford3059
@bigblockford3059 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you get that Chevy motor upgraded rotating assembly because she'll come undone with the factory stuff. Now it's even. Factory Ford rotating assembly and aftermarket Chevrolet rotating assembly
@TrumpAmerica-2024
@TrumpAmerica-2024 3 жыл бұрын
upvote your own comment 🤣 🤣 🤣
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 3 жыл бұрын
...and still cheaper than Stock Ford. Hmmm?
@jimgould2829
@jimgould2829 3 жыл бұрын
Ford factory 460 heads definitely leave something to desire...they don't flow as well as factory 454 heads.Thats a big reason why the Chevy made so much more power not to mention the cam was a little bigger 😎
@pudnbug
@pudnbug 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of that 454 - like Bob Falfa's Chevy in American Graffiti. Vrooom! Interesting, though, that the Ford's stock crank can handle 700 hp vs only 500 on the 454. Sounds like the Ford is the way to go.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 2 жыл бұрын
Ford always been the way to go
@markbulva4188
@markbulva4188 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot how poorly they actually compared these engines.
@craigfiles7067
@craigfiles7067 3 жыл бұрын
You can not have fair comparison unless every part is the same on each engine like having a modified points distributor on ford but a hi output mallory on chevy as the mallory has better spark output and curve also cams have to have same lift, duration and lsa. Piston design also changes performance
@terrypikaart4394
@terrypikaart4394 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!. Should have left chevy bottom end alone, and same heads as close as possible. Same compression and cam. First test was a little better..
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 3 жыл бұрын
Then you'd be building two identical engines and there wouldn't be much point. Also, at the stock power and rpm level, there won't be much difference between points and hei. What the main difference here is likely heads. Even truck heads on a 454 are probably a little better then truck heads on a 460. Once they built them up a little they essentially performed the same.
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable 2 жыл бұрын
@@177SCmaro I think the point in comparing them was to compare apples to apples. Not factory to performance.
@turkin73k
@turkin73k 10 ай бұрын
They always do this make they chevy motor better cause they are sponsored by GM.
@jimrutin
@jimrutin 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a dog in this fight but I sure can smell the bias.
@coreycarter8469
@coreycarter8469 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they are so aggressive when removing parts and installing them. Fkn ripping that shit. Poor cam bearings lol
@kidsteach938
@kidsteach938 2 жыл бұрын
Solid roller cam for the Chevy, hyd roller for the Ford...bigger heads chosen for the Chevy...why not put a turbo on the Chev, and really win big?
@Jerry-up8bk
@Jerry-up8bk 8 ай бұрын
Yeah WHY NOT CHEAT MORE with the Chevy DUH !
@curtisgerbrandt4749
@curtisgerbrandt4749 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a biased build the chevy cam was bigger than the ford and the chevy pistons had a very small dish ...come on guys build a fair comparison same pistons same cam same heads then lets see the numbers
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video but I dont agree with the cam choice for the Chevy. They should have used Hydraulic on both engines. The torque on the Ford boils down to cubic inches though. Nice engines definitely, but worlds apart based on Camshafts.
@CR-vu1rt
@CR-vu1rt 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the original TNN shows added to this channel. The original episodes of Horsepower with Joe and Chuck were great !
@jameshood3692
@jameshood3692 3 жыл бұрын
.494 lift on a big block and probably low duration🤨🤨, let that 460 suck some air come on
@billybullfrog
@billybullfrog 2 жыл бұрын
Torque wins races, Hp sells cars and speed parts from a bias show
@thefuzzyone3283
@thefuzzyone3283 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Torque gets you where you need to go.
@colinl5951
@colinl5951 Жыл бұрын
I'm putting a 460 in a '56 Chevy.
@Jerry-up8bk
@Jerry-up8bk 8 ай бұрын
SWEET REVENGE!
@ScottM5.0
@ScottM5.0 29 күн бұрын
TT Coyote C7 would embarrass any Euro offering.
@Richptl1
@Richptl1 Жыл бұрын
Budget build Ford cost $80 more. Performance build the Chevy got a new crankshaft. Seems like the performance Chevy build cost a lot more than the Ford. Prices not listed. Chevy only did better above 5,500 rpm. The Ford would do better on the street or in a 1/4 mile drag. Chevy wins on the dyno or on a long track.
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor Жыл бұрын
What years are they comparing.. a late 60's early 70's 460 as example is 400 horse, where as a 80's 460 is like 190 horse! SAME with the 454
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
The 385 series 460 is an inline valve arrangement. The BBC is a canted valve arrangement, much like a ford cleveland headed engine.
@mwyson4095
@mwyson4095 10 ай бұрын
The 460s are canted valves as well
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz 10 ай бұрын
oh maybe i was confused with a different engine that was a stroker 460 of the other engine family oops. thanks for the correction.@@mwyson4095
@turkin73k
@turkin73k 10 ай бұрын
Chevy only has more HP because they put more into it as always this why i really do not like this show very much.
@coreygrosz6127
@coreygrosz6127 3 жыл бұрын
Love the show bin build motors for long time personally myself I play with big block Fords but I've built many big block mopars many big block Chevys big block Buicks Pontiacs even a few Oldsmobiles and there was nothing comparable from the beginning of these builds to the end of these builds that was the same between these two engines they were completely different from beginning to end find that rather disappointing that they didn't pay closer attention to detail with compression distributor camshaft design Ford had a hydraulic Chevy had a solid roller way way difference there alone plus compression ratios from beginning to end otherwise I wish you guys have a lot of fun next time if you want to compare engines compare engines appropriately thank you
@markhodgins97
@markhodgins97 2 жыл бұрын
So you build a full motor chevy, heads intake and cam on a ford. Poor chevy barely beat a stock bottom ford
@Richptl1
@Richptl1 Жыл бұрын
Very similar numbers. Chevy a little more power and Ford more torque over much of the rpm range. Should have given $$$ spent on each build.
@bigredracer7848
@bigredracer7848 3 жыл бұрын
24👍's up guys thanks again for taking us all along with you
@rickyallaroundfisherman9389
@rickyallaroundfisherman9389 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like there might be a little bias here
@thefuzzyone3283
@thefuzzyone3283 2 жыл бұрын
They spent 2380 on the ford and 2300 on the chevy but dude said the chevy was 200 cheaper than the ford. Lmao
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable 2 жыл бұрын
Careful, your bias is showing.
@gregd8038
@gregd8038 3 жыл бұрын
Not fair comparison. Didn’t use same parts for every build. Re do that and I’ll watch
@richardsargent113
@richardsargent113 2 жыл бұрын
Give the 460 a good distributor.. first run was apples and oranges
@A-BONEpickup
@A-BONEpickup 3 жыл бұрын
hydraulic roller vs solid roller ?
@josephfigueroa3527
@josephfigueroa3527 3 жыл бұрын
So, essentially if you slap on heads and an intake that flow more air you make more power. WOW.
@NailedITLV
@NailedITLV 3 ай бұрын
Idk who yall are going to for machining but all the local shops have a 2500 minimum.
@antilaw9911
@antilaw9911 Жыл бұрын
You told the cam lift spec on the Ford, then you told the cam duration spec on the chevy. Chevy probably got way more lift too. How do you say that's a fair dyno war?
@robertredmond77
@robertredmond77 Жыл бұрын
He chevy had more cam, pistons rods and a performance ignition. I watche a ford put down 440 hp 650tq at the wheels with a stage 1 turbo
@mwyson4095
@mwyson4095 10 ай бұрын
You sabotaged the Ford by putting a comp cam in it.
@karhlhenselien2260
@karhlhenselien2260 9 ай бұрын
Both have enough grunt to pull a house down 👍👍
@macenbarmore1900
@macenbarmore1900 3 жыл бұрын
Real fair comparison
@perryhubbard2152
@perryhubbard2152 3 жыл бұрын
Where is 440 build lol
@TrumpAmerica-2024
@TrumpAmerica-2024 3 жыл бұрын
a 426 hemi or 440 would blow the doors off of the 454 and 460. both mopars are 500 hp from the factory.
@I_like_turtles_67
@I_like_turtles_67 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrumpAmerica-2024 You're wrong about those factory HP numbers.
@luketilley9137
@luketilley9137 5 ай бұрын
68 to 97
@clydeprather941
@clydeprather941 2 жыл бұрын
Worked @ Zion N.P. Lodge from '97 'till '99; Transportation Department. Drove 2 3/4 ton Ford vans--- both equipment with a 7.5 Litre/460 CID ENGINE!!!
@suonsiahomestay6805
@suonsiahomestay6805 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see it on the road again.
@kevinhutton103
@kevinhutton103 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a 68 Cady with a all stock 474, I would like to know that it's all stock HP and torch was ? And see a build up from their.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool and all but can you guys upload the Super Dually project. That thing was mean.
@GODZILLATORINORACING
@GODZILLATORINORACING 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, keep it coming
@remix26official54
@remix26official54 3 жыл бұрын
woow
@kenwood9401
@kenwood9401 3 жыл бұрын
using and chain timing better then gear timing upgrading my 5.7
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 3 жыл бұрын
Almost no difference. Gear driven are just too damn noisy, when you can go with a double roller and see no benefit from one or the other. Base your choice on cost.
@kenwood9401
@kenwood9401 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshtheking1772 thank you just wondering
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenwood9401 you can get quiet gear drives.
@celsocastillo385
@celsocastillo385 3 жыл бұрын
✌💯
@mikelovin7
@mikelovin7 2 жыл бұрын
The best part about this video is the butthurt comment section... 🤣
@Wbfuhn
@Wbfuhn 3 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between Ford and Chevy, I'd choose Toyota. To be serious I would get the Chevy LS 350. Not going to go high performance, just reliable V8 from America.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 3 жыл бұрын
351 Windsor, 460 rock solid engines don’t go off what you hear
@dustinparker9821
@dustinparker9821 2 жыл бұрын
Chevy performance all the way big block Chevy 454
@TrumpAmerica-2024
@TrumpAmerica-2024 3 жыл бұрын
more gm and ford junk 👎👎
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 3 жыл бұрын
Mopar is trash!!
@TrumpAmerica-2024
@TrumpAmerica-2024 3 жыл бұрын
moron above me
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable 2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to..?
@bluesky-ud9wg
@bluesky-ud9wg 2 жыл бұрын
The 460 was and still is a boat anchor. The heads suck, terrible, etc. It was never meant to be a HP engine, only to move 5000 lb cars...
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable 2 жыл бұрын
Even with the bias, it didn't do much worse than the BBC. So much for being a boat anchor.
@rickwho2314
@rickwho2314 7 ай бұрын
Man the bias is they call fair. WHAT A JOKE
@I_like_turtles_67
@I_like_turtles_67 3 жыл бұрын
So they swapped pistons. The crank. Gave the Chevy a bigger roller cam & it made a little more horsepower than the stock bottom end. Hyd roller Ford motor. Seems legit.
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