Royal Enfield Himalayan vs KTM 390 Adventure: The best sub 500cc ADV bike is? | 4K | PowerDrift

[@DeepakKrSingh-bd9zn]

I’m just waiting for new 390 adv. No matter how good RE is but I prefer the sharp and sporty look and performance and honestly I have some trust issues with RE.

[@powerdriftofficial]

The new 390 will take a while to happen.

[@pepperthepep]

​@@powerdriftofficialOne year

[@yogeshavl]

I have adv 390-2021 model had minor issues like oil leaking, rattling, service issues etc. which gave me little bit of trouble...nothing serious. Also have bullet 500std. 2017 model...rock solid, never gave any issue. my experience is bit different.

[@bnbvlogs]

The new 390 engine is a Noisy

[@po_mo5527]

It's ok , go for the looks

[@HardBoiled3]

got my Himalayan 450 10 days back. Been riding it on highway, its just feels different and comfy. Awesome balance and easy handling. It doesnt feel like you need to get used to it. Even though its new, I feel like its just easy

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thanks for sharing

[@jishnushaji3314]

Bro hows the comfort in bumpy roads??

[@HardBoiled3]

@@jishnushaji3314 good suspension

[@angelnokare6906]

Reliable?any issues?

[@HardBoiled3]

@@angelnokare6906 it's reliable. I have been to utaarkashi with it. Had no problems. It can run a lil hot tho, but it's a 450 cc so kind of expected.

[@vivek1393]

As a 390 owner for the past two years, I need to say that the bike came with its share of minor niggles (Plastic part rattles and bashplate nuts coming loose) which I had rectified with some DIY bushings and locktite. The headlight was spread out too much with not much focus so added aux lights. I tested the Himalayan out of curiosity for a friend. The bike looked promising but we were met with a slew of disappointments starting with the coneset out of spec, laggy throttle response, the funny angle of the kick stand and a rear seat that was tilted rearwards which made the pillion sit tucked. The one we test rode had a very rattly engine with what seemed like a bad tappet noise. The main redeeming feature what we all loved was the suspension tuning which like Varun said was "world class". For a bike under development since 2016 ( what I heard and read), many things feel like an afterthought or incomplete. For the KTM, the stock front suspension is nicely tuned but the rear is stiff compared to its competitors. On TeamBHP there was a thread regarding rebound adjustable rear suspension with a "soft to hard" setting which seemed to work really well in adressing the stiffness issue so maybe I'll try that. But as of now it is not a deal breaker for me. The quick shifter takes some getting used to for it to work the way you want. The Adv 390 is capable of keeping up with the RCs on twisties if you have the skills and confidence and once the roads get uneven or in bad weather the bike out performs the competition in terms of pace and predictability and the confidence to get out of sticky situations. The inherent balance and communication which the chassis provides is priceless. The Himalayan in all honesty feels like a much more laid back proposal, maybe for the rider who wants to take it easy on long tours. The ADV 390 is more of an upright sports bike with longer suspension travel. If only RE got the fundamentals dialed in and the mechanical issues resolved from the get go. I feel like the bike has potential but it hasn't gotten the complete attention it deserved during development.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Incredible comment. Thanks for writing in. Also sad to read that you got a not-so-good test Himmy. Its much more than that for sure. BTW, are you looking forward to the new ADV? 😄

[@vivek1393]

@@powerdriftofficial Truth be told, I wish for the new engine, switchgear and quickshifter but after seeing the shots of the test mule, I'm not sure I prefer the shift to the all-out adventure geometry and styling. It looks more grown up and adult, something you don't associate with the mad bikes KTMs usually are. I'm sure it'll find the market here but feels like a step away from the brand ethos.

[@yudhistirs]

you probably were sold a duplicate bike, ha ha ha ha, 390 has no such issues

[@kimphilbi9109]

Your review of Himmy is spot on. I was too disappointed after TD. Your observations on Engine are correct. Also I found weight distribution was out of place. After Himmy TD, I was wondering why reviewers are going gaa gaa over this bike which feels WIP.

[@vivek1393]

@@yudhistirs ha ha ha ha I can only comment based on my experience. Also "duplicate bike"? Care to explain?

[@prodyunborah93]

I did a test ride on himalayan in december, what a freaking machine! I didn’t think much of it and closed my eyes immediately booked it. Getting my delivery in this week

[@powerdriftofficial]

Great to hear!

[@abhishekmeena2277]

God bless brother.......only thing I would say...... Be prepared to fall in love..... And believe me it's all a bubble online it seems...... Its just simply amazing... ❤️

[@sheikhabd9824]

Bro when did you book ? How long it takes to deliver?, tmrw im booking i cant sleep 😂❤

[@deepukshatriya8293]

It completely depends on the dealership In Bengaluru they're saying 3months 😭

[@Throttle_Reaper]

ADV 390 forever ❤

[@powerdriftofficial]

There’s a new one coming!

[@aruunadventures]

Waiting for the monster ❤​@@powerdriftofficial

[@SlipperrClutch]

Adv390❤

[@powel12]

But then that upcoming KTM ADV will be definitely more expensive that of current 399 Duke....

[@adetyanalawade]

❤

[@Shashank29]

Royal Enfield Himalayan my dear Yeti came home last week!! looking forward for all the LOOOONGGG riding adventure touring!!!!!

[@powerdriftofficial]

Enjoy!

[@praveen.raavanan.8313]

What about the engine sound

[@abhishekmeena2277]

@@praveen.raavanan.8313 bro.... Zeroo... U won't get any better bigger 450 single cylinder in the market...

[@Shashank29]

@@praveen.raavanan.8313 Don't seem to have any issues with it so far, sounds smooth.

[@spacebound1705]

I sold my 2020 Interceptor and booked Himalayan 450, getting it delivered on march 😎

[@powerdriftofficial]

Congratulations bud!

[@being_radical_at_times]

Good decision bro at that price those are featureless junk. 450, SM 650 and SG 650 are only valuables of RE all others to me are nonsense or overpriced products

[@derkonig2292]

@@being_radical_at_times well, if you feel like performance is the only thing you want then yes.

[@being_radical_at_times]

@@derkonig2292 no bro I am talking about fun to ride and bikes which are worth the value. Those 3 are only bikes of RE which have features and also have USDs. And the 80s cluster sucks bro. + I have a personal issue with the REs for their shitty pricing. I don't hate the bikes but the Shitty company only. Any sane person would agree on that.

[@anik.b6988]

U will never get disappointed, 2 wheel Mercedes... Comfort level 👌👌👌

[@saintofall3653]

I own the 390 Adventure, so I will say this. I would choose my bike everytime at the start of any tour, but like the Versus 650, 400 km into a trip or when you're returning home from your adventure, you'll wish you had the Himalyan. Enthusiasm will easily ignore all the problems with the KTM, which is more exciting as a bike, but you will envy the Himalyan when you're tired. In my opinion, it is worth making a video on how much it takes to deal with the issues of the KTM, since rear adjustable suspension is an accessory, and you can get foam grips which really take care of vibrations

[@powerdriftofficial]

Ah haa. You still haven’t mentioned what makes the ride miserable. Suspension, comfort?

[@anuragsaha9994]

I own the 2022 390 Adv and recently upgraded both front and rear suspension with Fully Adjustable suspension from SW variant and did couple of on road , off road ride, the experience and comfort level has been up by 100% comparing with the stock one and with the right settings. A must have upgrade to make your existing bike a comfortable long touring bike and even a better off roader.

[@francodsouza4637]

​@@anuragsaha9994how much did it come for and does it void warranty? Also is it only possible to change the rear one?

[@wilderoneencounters5276]

So you are in terms of sitting and comfort Himalayan is good

[@sanketjain9320]

@@anuragsaha9994 How much is the front and rear suspension for, individually? Can we install it officially, i.e. without breaking the warranty?

[@highgearpc]

At 3:00 i thought you were going to quote ken miles “where everything starts to fade the machine becomes weightless”.😅

[@powerdriftofficial]

Could have, should have 😂

[@zackafron1916]

t thought so too

[@KevinDyer1]

Nice down-to-earth review, nothing fan boy about it, just honestly saying that the two have slightly different strong points. As for me, I'm 65 years old, about to get my motorbike licence and, looking back to when I was 7 years old in my dad's motorbike shop in Birmingham, England, I already loved the name and the look of the Royal Enfields. You can guess which one I want!

[@Paramecio_Z]

Tras 45 años de motos de todo tipo y algunas enduro y maxitrail, soy feliz propietario de una KTM 390 Adventure 2020 con 20.000 kms. Cuando la compré estaba sola en el mercado, ya que ninguna moto con 400 cc ofrecía velocidad y potencia suficiente en rutas y diversión y versatilidad como utilitario diario en una ciudad. Ahora, ciertamente la Triumph y la Himalayan 2 están ahí y pronto llegará la CFMoto MT 450 que también será muy interesante. Sin duda mi moto favorita sigue siendo la 390 a pesar de que mi 1.70 cm de altura me hacen sufrir en parado por su excesiva altura de asiento. La llevo en ciudad con un baúl GIVI Trekker Outback de 58 litros y dos alforjas GIVI que llevaba en mi ex BMW GS 800. La ligereza y relación peso-potencia, es lo más importante para que con mis 61 años disfrute la moto sin sufrir los excesos de volumen o masa. Un saludo desde España.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Me alegra saber de ti y me alegra saber que sigues disfrutando de las motos a tus 61 años. La KTM es realmente muy atractiva y habrá una nueva en camino a finales de este año. Esté atento a eso.

[@ajithkris]

Is it Austrian language

[@WanderVroom]

Seriously??? Nobody's gonna talk about how amazingly the videos have shot and edited? This definitely deserves some great appreciation!! 🫰🏻❤️✨ Kudos to the team of shooting, executing and editing! Love it ❤️

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thanks a bunch WanderVroom! Hope you have subscribed to our channel

[@imnitin97]

It's powerlift every video is amazingly shot and edited, that's the reason no one needs to talk about it

[@daveh1625]

I've ordered a Hanle Black Tubeless but uk deliveries are not here until april/may so that is my choice. I worked in Infosys Pune, building near Whipro site. Shopping in the centre and MG road for souvenirs, great memories and being there Aug 15th was the highlight for me with so many people at work in 'sunday best' clothes. (there's a reason more miss world/miss universe are from India than uk I think?) Many different makes of motorcycles we never see here.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Hahahha! We don’t know what to make of it

[@silentmanrules]

Buddy u high or what😅

[@BharathidasanNatarajan]

It's been a fantastic week with the new Himalayan. Completely enjoying the journey.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@deepakrajbhar582]

Best Comparison video ❤️ Much needed

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thank you!

[@bhubandahay7450]

Will always go for adv390 anyday...... might think about Himalayan only if it gets tubeless tyres.

[@powerdriftofficial]

And there’s no clarity on that

[@bhubandahay7450]

@@powerdriftofficial yes why RE like that?

[@powerdriftofficial]

Its not in their hands honestly. The certification has to come in through as well

[@twowheeledparadox]

The Himalayan 450, hands down. It clearly has the better off road setup. I already have a BS4 390 Duke which is the nearly same as the 390 Adventure for touring but 14 kg lighter so better in the city. It's definitely more willing to lift the front wheel every now and then. Also, it doesn't have traction control so that's one less thing to turn off when I start riding. That being said, I would prefer to wait for the new 390 Adventure if it comes with longer suspension travel and a 21" front wheel. I already have another RE which I intend to keep and would prefer to have two motorcycles from different brands.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Sure thing. The Himalayan does it slightly better offroad. But the suspension is OH - MY - GAWD

[@twowheeledparadox]

@@powerdriftofficial I think RE collaborated with Showa not only for the suspension parts but also for the tuning.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Yeah could be. Its usually a one partner collaboration for everything

[@anubhav1234misra]

I am leaning towards the 390x, would it be the right time to buy as the newer 390adv comes this might lead to spares issues as i tend to keep my bikes for atleast a decade.

[@powerdriftofficial]

The new one is being tested already. If you can make patience your ally, the upcoming motorcycle should be worth it

[@terence_savio7]

Why wouldnt you use the SW version of the 390 Adv... Suspension are a lot better in that

[@powerdriftofficial]

Couldn’t get our hands on the media unit. A friend was kind enough to lend his motorcycle.

[@riderhunt]

@@powerdriftofficial KTM doesn't offer bikes even for test rides

[@swayam_abhijeet]

​@@powerdriftofficialyou could have asked us, i would have given my windblade happily for this comparo, btw ADV still holds the crown of best VFM adventure motorcycle in India.

[@terence_savio7]

@@riderhunt dont think its actually about KTM not offering the bikes... Might be about the SW media bikes just not being available, every media influencer wants the bike right right to compare it to something or the other. I own a 2022 390 Adventure (the same colour thats used on the video) and even I had to wait quite a while to get my hands on the SW version to test ride.

[@sankhasubhradas4257]

Both are beast.i own 390 adv and rode a 452 . It's fun man.don't compare.enjoy both.amazing machines

[@dheeraj_nadimpalli]

Being an Interceptor 650 & then ADV390 owner always hated the 411 because of its issues The new 450 Himalayan has given me a different experience The best suspension setup period in a ADV of its class and segment Power is there when you need it and all the way Only gripe is will RE ensure service levels as good as #Bigwing or #KTM does

[@powerdriftofficial]

Yeah, the suspension is too too good! KTM will also be relatively cheaper to maintain.

[@themountainguy]

Chassis are still breaking on the new Himmi

[@bst75888]

Bro the cinematic 💯

[@SWARBENDUDASRAJAKtheSDR]

heart goes for that chilled out 500cc from RE...Simple but does it job with 42NM !!

[@sailulama8560]

Nice review from the both end. I owned a GT 650 long back but the same question with the tubeless tires and finally Royal Enfield has made a deal giving an alloy wheels. GT was my Third bike from the Royal Enfield Family. I think now KTM brings much excitement for a touring motorcycle.

[@jithlogs]

I love my Adv 390...pure confidence and all round performance

[@powerdriftofficial]

Oh yeahhh

[@Adarsh.travel]

Since both the bikes main motto is adventure ..We need to compare both ktm and RE's company guided tours ..I have seen ktm pro xp a program offered by ktm for its customers to learn and be part of guided Tours ..Last yr they had leh ,northeast, spiti and nepal .also ktm has off roading workshops in major cities . I have no idea about Royal Enfield ..would be a point of comparison ...

[@powerdriftofficial]

They do it quite well too. Brilliant idea for a comparo though

[@twowheeledparadox]

RE has been organising guided tours since before KTM launched their first bike in India. The Himalayan Odyssey has been conducted by RE for 18 years now. KTM is new to this game and likely learned from RE's example. Not sure about off-road camps, though. I agree that it's a good idea for a comparison video.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Yeahh for sure

[@ismailnaushi2007]

Nice and fair comparison. Two of the best beginner Adv’s!

[@powerdriftofficial]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@KrishnaJadhav-bv2ed]

can you also emphasise on the after sales for both as new riders it will reaally help us

[@crazydrofastronomy007]

You both have given great insights into the video Thank you Amazing video presentation Cheers to the team POWERDRIFT for such a phenomenal comparison of the bikes❤ My choice RE Of course ADV390 has its perks No doubt the guy riding the RE adds to the charm of the bike❤

[@rsujottumbde8580]

Planning to get KTM 390 ADV standard version however i bit confused in BMW 310 GS and Triumph 400 Scrambler can you please help me to which one to chose

[@powerdriftofficial]

What is it that you want from your motorcycle?

[@rsujottumbde8580]

@@powerdriftofficial i am actually using it for office commute and weekly rides 🙂🙂

[@PRAG3]

Should I get the Himmy 450 in the 3rd quarter this year or I should be waiting for the new ADV 390 to come and then decide ? ( Was determined to buy the Adv 390 for a long time but the new Himmy somehow is very appealing )

[@powerdriftofficial]

If you are waiting, might as well wait for the new Katoom

[@vivek1393]

Do check the waiting period for the Himalayan. It might get pushed to the fourth quarter.

[@malcomroy5804]

I choose the 390 cause the power and ride balance is just prefect and braking performance is just wow

[@powerdriftofficial]

👌✌️

[@bit.dibyajyoti]

Any update on tubeless tyres for Himalayan?????

[@powerdriftofficial]

Nope. Nothing yet

[@jimtim2002]

Here in Norway, I see they offer Tubeless tyres:)

[@1984cooool]

Was waiting for this comparison for Long... Thankyou Guys... Him 450 is the choice but heart goes for ADV since I own a Duke390 I know all about the fun part and how it dominates...

[@powerdriftofficial]

There we go!

[@abhishekmeena2277]

Nothing can match the experience of owning the Himalayan 452......it is a smooth machine....... It left me speechless..... ❤❤❤... In love with it

[@powerdriftofficial]

Good choice

[@bhavinsomani8118]

Ahould have tried 390adv, cmon PD themself are saying they didnt get media unit. That means resouces are provided by RE.

[@anandhanofc]

I just rode my neighbour's Himalayan 450 and got excited and came to know about it Seriously it's not that typical Royal Enfield and it's fast, i means damn fast, i don't think so there is another single cylinder which as raw as Himalayan 450, the suspension is softer, it has added some good tech which other RE bikes doesn't have

[@INDIAN_NOMAD_ASHU]

I have recently sold my Himalayan 411 and now looking for a change? Which one should I go for? (I also own HONDA CBR650, so need one lighter touring motorcycle)

[@krishnabhat9307]

I own a Himalayan 450, I'm very impressed by its off-roading performance and seamless ride on patchy roads thanks to 21 inch front wheel and suspension is really impressive. Definitely feels bit heavy as it looks big boy but can be managed and because of the weight it will be steady at higher speeds on highways due to less drag. Overall loved the New Himalayan 450

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thanks for sharing

[@thebidgaming9639]

11:11 transition is mind-blowing

[@rjshambuvlogs8977]

Adv 390 is jack of all trades for sure.. 🔥.. In terms of power to wait ratio, engine refinmnt, its too light and nimble with more power.. It can be use as commuter also.. N on other side, i have used himalayan 450,.. And yea its soo heavy wen compared to adv 390. And plus its sounds little wierd also.. But yea himmy myt be great in other terms..

[@powerdriftofficial]

Nicely written

[@suheab100]

Im still confused between Himalayan vs adventure 390 X. What do you suggest at this time july 2024. Moslty i will use in city and occasionally long rides

[@subhrajitpal1396]

Wait for 2025 adv 390.. I have exact similar requirements similar budget and similar confusion between these 2 ... And am waiting till EICMA 2024 to happen where ktm will unveil next generation advs

[@suheab100]

@@subhrajitpal1396 thank you very much bro. I had booked Himalayan but again cancelled after lots of thoughts. Will wait for 2025 adv 390.

[@ssharanca]

Bought 390 ADV - Jan 2024 - Highway and tarmac (hills) tourer - zero off roading. Right choice? What say sir?

[@powerdriftofficial]

You already bought it! You tell us 😄

[@ssharanca]

@@powerdriftofficial sold 390 duke Gen 2 & bought Adv 390. Could not stand the looks of gen 3 duke 390. Rode to Ooty and back - 370 kms - for my level - i am happy with cornering and performance - Run in period. feel happy and content. But any way to increase front brake bite? replace break pads? what type?

[@MultiPunjabi]

There are some vibration issues pointed out by reviewers of himalayan which is varying from model to model so just wait for some long term reviews before purchasing one. Some are suggesting that nvh are bothersome above 100kmph which is really disappointing, but we have to give benefit of doubt to re as this there first liquid cooled engine. Hope so it will improve with batch to batch.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Yeah. Slightly different experience from different motorcyclists

[@vellovenkateeshkk8670]

ok the video is fine good, if possible make a compression on 450 & 390 rally. Please...

[@sanketjain9320]

At a touring speed of 100-110, where vibrations are a big problem on Himalayan as per most reviewer's observations, how is it compared to the 390 ADV? I know neither is great, but which one is better? Also, can we install the adjustable suspension on 390X, officially? If yes, how close does it get to the himalayan's?

[@powerdriftofficial]

It will get close but not to the level of the Himalayan. Both the motorcycles are vibey but the Himmy is better at lower speeds.

[@jagzjagadish8746]

I own a Duke 390 which has been a daily commuter of about 50kms for me from past 5yrs and man that’s a pocket rocket. I’m thinking to buy Himalayan 450 for its comfort in city and also on highways. Should I stick with Duke390 or go for Himalayan.?

[@bhavinsomani8118]

Stick to 390 duke and save yourself

[@powerdriftofficial]

Please take a test spin first. Should answer a lot of your questions

[@satpreetsingh2519]

I am confused between both the bikes, Should i go-for the himalayan 450 convert it to tubeless and enjoy or wait for thenew 390 adv till next year? I liked the refinement of the new 399cc engine of duke as well though…

[@aadilkp5335]

tubeless is now abailable from showroom

[@prasantamaria9063]

Got my HimmY 450 Hanle Black last week & you won’t believe I have driven 500 kms so far & that’s all in the City. & it has the capability to tear out the road 😂 I mean I fell in love with the power it delivers & to be very honest, My Himmy 450 gets more attention & Love in the roads as compared to 390 Adv.❤

[@fahadcool13]

Brother I have already booked Himmy, I am worried after people posting so many issues, please help me to go for it or no?

[@prasantamaria9063]

@@fahadcool13 well there will be pros & some cons in every bike …but I must confess that I am really enjoying my ride with Himalayan 452 & you will as well.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Good to hear this!

[@PodipireddyTV]

I owned a Duke 390 for the past 9 years now.. there have been minor niggles yes, but nothing that was easily solved.. the performance has been heart racing and experience euphoric.. I'm sure nothing can match this as I look for a replacement.. I only hope there is a faster Duke or Adv that can race my heart faster! ;)

[@powerdriftofficial]

Wait for the new 390 Adventure

[@mohitgohil3279]

Thinking of upgrading from fzs Fi to an adventure tourer. I'm 6ft tall. Purpose is good highway comfort for rider and pillion both. Most of the times it will be highway cruising and occasional offroad. Please suggest which one should I go for.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Please take a test spin! With your height, you should fine the Himmy just fine. There's a new KTM on its way so we aren't sure if we should recommend this to you right away.

[@090simran]

Why you guys are not make the video on Himalayan 450 vs Honda NX500?

[@powerdriftofficial]

Because Honda does not have a media unit

[@NileshOnWeeheels]

which is best option for long tours like 4000kms and above, as well for short rides also?

[@powerdriftofficial]

Both the motorcycle can tour comfortably. The 390 ADV can do short rides better than the Himmy

[@thewey]

The Himalayan can carry WAY more gear and cases (front and rear) for on and off road camping and long distance travel.

[@harshaswell]

Hii pd. Could you please tell what could be the expected price of new Katoom?

[@powerdriftofficial]

We aren’t entirely sure but a bump of 15-20k is expected

[@powerdriftofficial]

We aren’t entirely sure but a bump of 15-20k is expected

[@jatinhariyani1686]

Katoom this is new for me which bike is this?

[@UpenD-g4y]

Which one has more dependency on electronics and sensors?? Which one is better compare to easily getting service stations/parts all over india? Break down can happen any place any time.

[@powerdriftofficial]

If a vehicle gets electronics, it will depend on it when things try to go wrong. Royal Enfield and KTM have a ton of showrooms across the country but KTM will be cheaper for spares and service

[@barun9665]

Dear Power Drift , got recommended your power news show featuring Shumi , Varun and Gantantra ji. Would request you to bring back that series on bike comparison. I understand Shumi is not with you anymore but you have Varun and Karan. Would love if more such comparisons can be restarted . Make a gantantra ji as mediator and a debate of neta type with Varun and Karan. For me 390 ADV next gen will make more sense. As new engine has better low end power , quick shifter is better and better switch quality. And hope both get option for tubeless spokes.

[@powerdriftofficial]

We hear you. Some things are possible, some just aren’t

[@barun9665]

@@powerdriftofficial please make with Varun and Karan along with a host . Would love that. Waiting for 390 ADV new version

[@The_imperial_biker]

Heard about chassis break in 450? That too in two bikes, the legacy continues?

[@harishsurya3899]

Wat would u suggest if I have an option of going to 450 Himalayan or the dominor 400??

[@powerdriftofficial]

Himalayan all day

[@thesecret923]

Go test ride 450 Himalayan you will forget Dominar even existed.

[@beyourself9500]

Everyone talks about stiffer suspension of 390, but if you are taller you can go for adjustable suspension....that will solve the problem... seriously speaking at present its all about what you need from a bike when you have to choose among these two bikes.....both are great machines now.....😊

[@powerdriftofficial]

That last line says it all.

[@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19]

That's because cause they ride the base model of the Adventure which is Adventure X. Go for top model if you want superior ability of the suspensions.

[@My123sunny]

What about the vibrations on the new Himalayan ? Is it bothering enough to make the long rides completely uncomfortable ? Or it is manageable...!!

[@tonnie_j]

It's very much manageable I ve ridden over 100+ kms straight no issues you won't feel any, only discomfort was the seats and throw of light .

[@powerdriftofficial]

Feels nice and smooth till about 80kmph. Buzzy after that

[@My123sunny]

@@tonnie_j Have you encountered any issues apart from the ones you mentioned?

[@omkarrajmane9408]

I am confused about the verdict, as you guys said Himalayan has better bottom-end than the KTM, then how come you'all are saying KTM better for city than the Himalayan. This is coming from KTM390 Adv user, where I find city roads in Pune very limiting for KTM, the moment it comes alive, its time to brake :(. I found KTM better for highways than the city.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Its lighter, manageable and easier to ride overall. Plus, in the city one cannot go full ham on the throttle anyway

[@sudarshan.t6550]

Waiting to get my Himalayan in Australia as there is so much city and off-roading we can do.

[@himanshusinghdosad9853]

The only thing i dont like about the himalayan is the tail section or the rear look, they should have worked on it or the rear seat should be a little raised so as to look decent from the back too🤔

[@powerdriftofficial]

Pillion accessibility gone out of the window

[@unknown_user_error404]

When are you guys comparing TVS Raider and Hero Xtreme 125R? Waiting for it.

[@powerdriftofficial]

That’s lined up for this month!

[@krishneog6751]

The reliability factor can never be associated with RE...

[@powerdriftofficial]

We keep hearing about these issues yes

[@faizanlala5415]

Hi what solution would you’ll recommend anti puncture sealant or tubeless conversion kit

[@powerdriftofficial]

Outex is one such solution!

[@subhadipbanerjee6791]

@@powerdriftofficial I don't outex yet launched the solution for new Himalayan. I did from way2speed.

[@indhiragithravi5742]

⁠@@subhadipbanerjee6791how is the way2speed bro ? I’m thinking of it

[@mukhtartraders7805]

Way2speed anti puncture solution is much better and cheaper to brother

[@subhadipbanerjee6791]

I yet to go for a long ride after upgrade. but so far so good.

[@vikrantkhedekar6227]

How about the NX500? Does it fall in this category considering its a twin cylinder and double the price? I currently ride the CBR 250R and want to upgrade to an adventure tourer...but having ridden a Honda I don't feel like switching to another brand. Keeping the price aside, can you do a fair comparison between these bikes?

[@powerdriftofficial]

We cannot take price out of the equation.

[@amitpuranik906]

What about the heating issue of himalayan 450 in city traffic for day to day use?

[@powerdriftofficial]

VP didn’t feel anything during this comparo. There’s heat but not enough to bother you

[@abhishekanand9950]

@@powerdriftofficial whats VP?

[@amitpuranik906]

When I took test ride just for 1 km the engine started to heat up quickly and what is VP?

[@AkshayM88]

​@@amitpuranik906 VP = Varun Painter 😁

[@nishank3334]

The main reason in choosing the Himalayan over the ktm would be the price for many ppl... If the new ktm adventure bike (which will be released in the comming day) has a price simillar to the Himalayan then it would be real tough to choose btw ktm and himalyan

[@powerdriftofficial]

Bingo! Pricing is a big factor here. Also, the new KTM will not be cheaper than this

[@rushikeshpatil801]

40 Nm @5500 rpm vs 37Nm@7000 rpm..... RE 🔥

[@powerdriftofficial]

🔥 🔥🔥

[@radarroi27]

U don't ride spec sheet 🤦🏻‍♂️. . . Yes it's down 3 nm, but it's also down a whopping 19kgs less than Himalayan, which those extra 3NM can't compromise 🙃. . .

[@rushikeshpatil801]

@@radarroi27 exactly you don't ride spec sheet...!

[@bhavinsomani8118]

Di take long test ride, then you will surely choose 390 over him450

[@rakshitjuyal134]

Sold my 2019 interceptor and switching to Himalayan . I have trust on RE based on their service network and the way they address complaints.

[@powerdriftofficial]

We see a smile there 😊

[@shreyasprasanna1763]

Is it better to wait for a new ADV 390? Any idea when will it be launched in India? Or should I buy the current ADV390X?

[@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19]

Yes, wait for it. They improved ergonomics, its engine produce more torque and is more offroad-friendly. The exhaust sound is also more aggressive.

[@janoschekheldderberge3446]

Vielen Dank für den Vergleich der zwei Motorräder. 👍👍

[@powerdriftofficial]

Cheers! Hope you have subscribed to our channel

[@anik.b6988]

I don't know how the hell they made the suspension on Himalayan.... The comfort level😍😍❤️... Like a merc I think...

[@powerdriftofficial]

Exactly. That setup is too too good.

[@kiransanthosh961]

Can you guys do a middle weight twin/triple cylinder adv comparo as well, for the folks like me who are confused which to go with?

[@powerdriftofficial]

List down the motorcycles

[@Whatreally123]

I have ridden multiple 390 advs and surprised not many people nor channels talk about how vibey it is. It is not a smooth motorcycle at all. Specially the headlight assembly rattles like crazy. Surprising that it is a modified duke and the duke 390 doesnt feel like such a vibrating machine. And weird that everyone starts saying the himmy 450 is buzzy. It might be (i havent ridden it long duration yet) but the 390 is definitely not a smooth motorcycle.

[@powerdriftofficial]

We did speak about refinement issues. The Himmy feels smoother but vibes catch up after 90kmph.

[@nickhel0851]

I’m getting this lovely beast 450 ❤ delivered today 😍

[@powerdriftofficial]

Congratulations mate

[@andymotovlogs546]

KTM paint quality & wires feel fine. KTM is lightweight, much lighter than 450, giving it a huge advantage in the off-road dept, because weight is a crucial aspect there. The electronic problems heard of late with the bike not starting with 450 is something to worry about. Additional safety features like lean sensitive TC(which the him 450 lacks I guess) are awesome add-ons that boost riding confidence. 450 looks awkward & lacks the kind of agility 390 has. The alloy wheels of ktm work just fine for most riding. Suspension of ktm is fine for most part. The low end issue of KTM is not much of an issue if you keep the engine above a certain rpm. One who complained about it probably doesn't know how to ride it. The better higher end offers crucial advantage on highway ride, more so with a better pick up too, I suppose. I would still go for the present Adv 390 over the him 450, though the new 390 would change the game altogether.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Nice summary there!

[@aliveheartjm5002]

Ktm vibrates a lot in low speeds..Himalayan in slow speed is good. But in high speed story is different. Ktm is so smooth ,quick and no vibration. But Himalayan engine vibrate in high speed and struggles. The electronics in ktm is better than RE. The most advantage of ktm is 19 kg lesser weight compared to Himalayan. It is a big advantage in any off road terrain. The only drawback seem to ktm is low end torque. The expert rider can only do hard core off roading in a fast manner by accelerating the throttle continuesly. A newbie need to learn how to control this bike in off road terrain. But Himalayan can ride by a newbe or expert with no need of tension. Ktms power to weight ration is better than Himalayan. So it is fun to ride. Ppl those who interested in thrill ride ktm is their choice. But ppl who loves comfort and fearless ride Himalayan is ok for them. Both has its on character. Respect each and choose accordingly.

[@mohammedalam3332]

I drive a BMW and a Merc, so I m super choosey about finish. When the kid said that RE has better paint quality 😂 it’s hilarious

[@sarathmurali3446]

Appreciate the effort you guys have taken to reply to every comment, it’ll be paid off….!

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thanks Sarath :)

[@VickyWathore]

Aye you are from kharadi ???

[@piyushkadukar7337]

Power drift has got Good Video Editors. Superb

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thank you so much 😁

[@Gauravw910i]

i have changed front sprocket to 14 teeth at 2nd service. now i m happy with my ADV 390 (2022) 😊

[@shaunferns2872]

Whats the difference that you noticed? Or rather what's the problem that you solved? Any changes in mileage?

[@powerdriftofficial]

Nice. Better bottom end then

[@2WheelsAndRackets]

The quickshifter is actually good considering the price at which KTM offers it. I did a 4000 km Uttarakhand trip in my 2023 model 390 ADV and the quickshifter was good throughout. Sometimes, it's a bit jerky from 1st to 2nd and after that, it's mostly smooth. You wouldn't complain because of how much effort it saves you. For touring, it is a boon! I'd rate it as the best feature that the Himalayan does not have.

[@twowheeledparadox]

But how much effort really? The 390's slipper clutch is extremely light to operate. In fact, I am looking for good shorty levers for my 390 Duke so that I can operate both levers using just my index finger. Also, if an engine has good midrange torque, you don't need to shift gears often.

[@powerdriftofficial]

But it should quickshift, not misshift!

[@2WheelsAndRackets]

@@powerdriftofficial heard complaints about it before purchasing the bike. But, never once did a misshift happen in my bike - 2023 June model Std. I believe KTM silently improved the QS+ in the Adv models. Saying this after covering 13000 kms in 6+ months. I guess the key is to be firm while pushing the lever, not too gentle. It's my favourite feature in the motorcycle.

[@2WheelsAndRackets]

@@twowheeledparadox the clutch is light no doubt but still not the lightest. It's just slightly better than my previous CBR 250R. Also, the need to shift is your riding style. I usually shift more than others and stay above 4.5-5k rpms. Someone else may just accelerate from 3.5k rpm in the same gear. Over a long ride, it adds up! I mean - I am definitely feeling it.

[@twowheeledparadox]

@@2WheelsAndRackets I know what you're talking about. I always prefer to keep the engine in or near the power band too. That's the thing about the BS4-6 390. It needs to be kept on a boil so it needs more gearshifts even after I installed a FuelX on my Duke. When I hop on my Interceptor, I don't need to shift gears as much even though I subconsciously keep the revs slightly higher than needed. This is because it does higher speeds at low revs and pulls much harder in the midrange than the 390. This disparity would be much lesser between the 390 Adv and the Himalayan 450 but I believe it would be noticeable. I will take my 390 to the RE showroom next time for a back to back comparison.

[@chaitanya5197]

If Himi would have weighed 20 kg lighter I would have preferred it over,but right now Adv 390 is love ❤

[@powerdriftofficial]

Its also where the weight is placed. VP finds the top heavy nature alright. Most people will struggle

[@debmalyapal6936]

Adv 390 all day Enfield has come a looong way but no not impressed Waiting eagerly for the next gen adv 390

[@powerdriftofficial]

Later this year

[@suryasanders5179]

Royal Enfield becomes a game changer everytime they launch a new motorcycle. Please.....we all know what happened with the Himalayan that came in the beginning. So..... summary is: good engines... Everything is substandard in terms of a combination. Something or the other breakdown.

[@bhavinsomani8118]

Yes they are good at Marketing but poor products

[@powerdriftofficial]

They definitely have gotten better over time. Unfortunately, we as journalists don’t get to experience long term issues during a first ride and that is exactly what happened during the 411

[@pumpkineter_69]

I've been using Himalayan 450. Using screen is also dead easy on Himalayan. Even with gloves in.

[@tuteja88]

I already own a Thunderbird TS 350 which is 12 years old and has just completed 29000 kms. Going by my way of riding which sub500 adv would be better for me out there in the Indian market?

[@being_radical_at_times]

You need to consider factors like Mileage- is it a thing to you at not Type of ride- highway more or some serious off-road. Maintenance- easy maintenance My opinion will be based on specs KTM ADV 390 is king and does both. More highway touring dominar400/ BMW GS 310 Mileage goes for V-storm himalyan 450 I would say some serious off-road.

[@powerdriftofficial]

What have you shortlisted?

[@tuteja88]

@@being_radical_at_times thanks a ton for providing a clear insight. Mileage isn’t a crucial factor as miles munching would be considerably less say 50kms a week at max. Riding would be a mixture of city cum highways For me servicing would be a major factor as the one with a combination of least cost cum greater interval would be ideal. I would rather go for adventure x as I am not much of a electronic buff

[@tuteja88]

@@powerdriftofficial 390 adventure x for sure. The list might expand after taking further test rides

[@akilan3495]

In the adv ,There's a small wire ... From the rear wheel , the MTC/ ABS wire with a plug ij thr righ side of the engine ... Unplug it to un leash thr beast... Also it also overcomes the cumbersome process of switching the MTC off every time we switch on the bike in offroad Note : not for touring... Juat offroads

[@powerdriftofficial]

Nice one mate!

[@karthiknack5447]

Really the best video you made bro... hearty thanks for your team much usefull .. and I need one suggestion whether to go with Ktm adv 390 spoked or Standard one with alloys.. Im owning it for a touring purpose suggest me which will be more comfortable .thanks 👍🏻

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thank you thank you! We suggest alloys if you aren't into hardcore offroading.

[@SS-fs5tw]

It's commendable that Himalayan has come such a long way but man, i am impressed with the fact that KTM is so hard to beat even after its release years ago. I did a solo ride to Goa on my adventure and the bike rocked non stop for 13 hours without any complain. It was my first ride outside Mumbai. I wont pass KTM for anything new unless they score 5 points above KTM in an overall comparison. Waiting for the new KTM Adventure with its taller suspension.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Lovely motorcycle, isn’t it?

[@SS-fs5tw]

@@powerdriftofficial hands down. waiting to see what change the new ktm adventure gives in terms of riding experience.

[@SS-fs5tw]

@@powerdriftofficial i did encounter engine knocking and bike stalling a few times and its scary on highways and ghats. but the service center tells me its about my riding and using the shifts properly. so maybe thats the issue.

[@prithvibanerjee5155]

Who else got irritated by the Non Stop MG Astor Ads 😤

[@powerdriftofficial]

👀

[@ipsvishnu7]

curious on why did we not compare himalayan with the adjustable suspension version of Adv 390.

[@powerdriftofficial]

Because the media unit kept getting delayed

[@heilpepe7298]

​@@powerdriftofficialfor riding comfort adjustable suspension makes the difference for ktm

[@chickbabu]

New Himalayan might be great in every way but it's really top heavy bike the old Himalayan was really great in weight management but new Himalayan isn't great.... I would choose ktm adv 390 for sure

[@powerdriftofficial]

Yeah. The weight is a problem

[@rajsadhu3892]

Well I've different questions.. If u don't mind... What's your height? And what's the exact size of your riding pant?

[@powerdriftofficial]

VP is almost 6’2”. Karan is nearly the same. Riding pants????

[@rajsadhu3892]

​@@powerdriftofficial yes that rynox one... What's the size?

[@narendrajoshi7442]

Nice comparison vdo I am a RE person so always RE

[@powerdriftofficial]

Thanks Narendra! Glad you liked the video.

[@ONiMOnKTM]

Used to ride Duke390 for 5 years... Then switched to Adventure 390 in 2021... Getting my rear suspension replaced with the sw variant suspension... And that's it .. Did almost all kinds of rides on my Adv 390.. good tarmac... Highways... Broken tarmac .. off road... Water waving.... The best part about Eva (I fondly call my Adventure 390) is... She never fails to amaze you... There is always a smile while you are on it!!!!! And that's the beauty of a KTM... #pdarmy #ktmforever

[@powerdriftofficial]

Lovely! Many more miles to you :D

[@ONiMOnKTM]

@@powerdriftofficial thank you PD

[@kalpsharma3166]

I m confused what to buy from himalyan to ktm from aprillia to ninja I ll definitely pick himalyan the sooner it shows up in CSD or anything else if I make a impulsive buy anytime earlier

[@powerdriftofficial]

Please don't make an impulsive buy. Test ride everything before you make a choice.