Powerful New Anji Tech! Midare Just Got Stronger!

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Klaige

Klaige

Күн бұрын

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@abfloorr
@abfloorr Жыл бұрын
Yeah i found you can do it by doing super input and then P+K+Hs, its ultra easy and cheap, it can go Fullscreen if you WA
@iknowwhereyoulive618
@iknowwhereyoulive618 Жыл бұрын
oh shit nice
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
definitely gonna experiment with this, thanks for the feedback!
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
100% this is the way, holy hell this is so much easier.
@abfloorr
@abfloorr Жыл бұрын
@@klaige there is no reason to midare rc now lol, he gets way better combos like this lmao
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that, you're not always going to have 50% for the Kara cancel. There are also situations like autoguarding at the wall with low health where you may just want to keep the corner and the knockdown. There's still plenty of incentive to use Midare on it's own.
@onehitwonders7729
@onehitwonders7729 Жыл бұрын
Man i could sit hear and listen to Klaige talk for hours
@AkaneAkai
@AkaneAkai Жыл бұрын
literally me
@nhall129
@nhall129 Жыл бұрын
Same and i dont even play Anji lol
@shawerymarz
@shawerymarz Жыл бұрын
Ikr and I don't even play Anji lol
@nemi43
@nemi43 Жыл бұрын
@@nhall129 same and i don't even play this game, ha ha
@Lazergician
@Lazergician Жыл бұрын
Having seen this develop in discord, thank you for giving credit to the developers in the description! I can't watch the whole video right now, but I hope they got credit vocally too. Keep pushing the Anji envelope alongside the tech friends!
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Yep I made sure to shout out OGCheweySnickers in the video itself as well. I assume some other people were at least part of the discovery but that was the only one I saw on social media at the time of recording. If anyone else needs to be notably shouted out let me know and I'll add them to the description!
@Lazergician
@Lazergician Жыл бұрын
@@klaige Hell yea, good looks man.
@Shomomomo
@Shomomomo Жыл бұрын
The OG is back! Following your guides is what got me into fighting games as a whole. So happy to see you back in Strive :)
@mirror2922
@mirror2922 Жыл бұрын
Anji was my first character to play and learn in S1 everyone knows S1 anji wasnt the greatest. Coming back to my roots and playing him again with midare and seeing 1 of the youtubers that i used to improve my anji with is so heartwarming ❤
@Vernafveik
@Vernafveik Жыл бұрын
Twitter: “But I thought you were nerfed-“ Anji: “My nerfs were… greatly exaggerated.”
@Rockmaster5001
@Rockmaster5001 Жыл бұрын
Lets keep the midare hype train going!!
@mc3941
@mc3941 Жыл бұрын
So it turns out you can spin a multihit like Sol's 5K and if you kara Midare into Kachou, the parry will activate on the second hit! Kara parry also works against Bedman's j.H and other multihit jump-ins. I'm not sure if this is that useful in the grand scheme of things, but I do love some gourmet Anji swag.
@ananmaysahu4563
@ananmaysahu4563 Жыл бұрын
doing kachoufuugetsi versus an autogaurded multihit move is the absolute most fuck you move I can think of.
@krown_of_G
@krown_of_G Жыл бұрын
Something i found regarding wild assult, Anji can now break the wall from round start using it after far slash And because wild assult drains the opponant's burst they can't escape from it You can even use the other 50% burst gauge to get a hard knockdown like you said This is the combo: 5S xx 236D --> 5HS xx 236S [hold] --> air D --> C.S xx 236HS --> HS 5S [counter] --> 236D [hold] --> 2HS xx 236S [hold] --> C.S --> 5HS xx 236HS --> Rin --> 236D [hold] Edit: they actually regain burst after the close slash so they could escape Still they give up their entire burst gauge while you only use half Edit #2: the second combo is an option only avalible on counter hit far slash and it allows you to by-pass the (somewhat) annoying timing of the jump D to close slash on the first combo in exchange for 1 less point of damage
@junipetta1595
@junipetta1595 Жыл бұрын
cant remember the route exactly but it’s also not that difficult to hit confirm a charged WA if you counterhit with far S to get a full air combo
@krown_of_G
@krown_of_G Жыл бұрын
@@junipetta1595 I used the same route i posted above on a counter hit far slash from round start and you get 202 damage on Ky 40+ tension and because the charged WA drains more burst gauge they only regain burst once you wall splat them at which point you can do another charged WA for a hard knockdown
@ananmaysahu4563
@ananmaysahu4563 Жыл бұрын
this single piece of tech could elevate anji into mid tier or even mid-high tier in tournament play. can you IMAGINE how useful a 12-frame move that can lead into 200+ damage and HKD with meter if the opponent so much as JABS will be in tournament play? (autogaurd takes 12 frames to activate whenever you do a move with autogaurd)
@trustmyjudgements
@trustmyjudgements Жыл бұрын
using the RC macro for this would probably make it easier IMO
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
It absolutely would. I don't have an RC macro on my stick due to my hand not playing well across all 8 buttons during matches. I have a minor birth defect in my right hand where I have an extra attached tendon, and that makes using macros on the far buttons difficult and often puts heavy strain on my hand.
@gunnibalsmith3849
@gunnibalsmith3849 Жыл бұрын
@@klaige Petition to rematch Woocash after we surgically insert another tendon into his hand. Cause having an extra tendon is obviously an unfair advantage.
@childishgoblino
@childishgoblino Жыл бұрын
We making out of bottom 3 with this! 🔥🔥🔥
@ananmaysahu4563
@ananmaysahu4563 Жыл бұрын
Anji players will now experience the optimal potemkin combo experience and have to input double kara cancels with multiple 3-6 frame windows that need to all be hit in sequence to properly use one of their character's best tools (autogaurd in anji's case, anti-air combos in potemkin's case)
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
We figured out a shortcut, its literally just 632146P+K+H so quite simple now!
@Lanzetsu
@Lanzetsu Жыл бұрын
I was actively using the Kara cancel of Fujin into parry super since I love it and how it looks, so I will try this out. Also some quick note on Wild Assault... it is one of the best tools to wall break not only because the hard knockdown but because when you wall splat your enemy he recovers almost 1/3 of the burst gauge which is massive for him, but then you wall break with Wild Assault and it REMOVES 1/5 of it or so which means he now is in a hard knock down situation with no full burst and you didn't spend tension and you can do it even if you are kind of away of the wall without needing to run (ok you wasted some 50% burst but since you have possitive bonus you recover it super fast and you can rushdown him to keep pressure specially if you still have tension)
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Complete Agreement. I originally thought Deflect shield would end up the stronger of the two mechanics, and maybe as things progress that could still possibly happen. But the sheer versatility of Wild assault and it's value in so many areas is impossible to ignore. It's definitely the premier wallbreak tool now.
@Caulin_
@Caulin_ Жыл бұрын
I dont even play Anji, but this is cool asf. I can't play top tiers in any fighting game besides platform fighters because they all lack this sort of depth required to play well. It's really cool that to get the most out of your character you have to go for this really hard, but really rewarding/creative tech. I hope this is widely adopted rather than just being too much effort for the reward (like optimizing most top tiers)
@ananmaysahu4563
@ananmaysahu4563 Жыл бұрын
Happy Chaos needs to consistently hit a 2 frame link and ramlethal needs to consistently kara cancel her rekka at the absolute highest tiers of play so it's less prevalent in guilty gear, but I get what you mean. anji needs this crazy bullshit to properly use one of his most iconic tools, meanwhile Happy Chaos prepatch used to get 200+ damage if he hit you at any time while he had a bunch of bullets or meter. ramlethal could do 45% anytime the corner was onscreen if she landed a sword throw on you. thro both swords, run up close slash down heavy slash sword throw loop again and then calvados.
@evilded2
@evilded2 Жыл бұрын
Unknown od anji player punishes as jab with a close slash.
@x.m.a.
@x.m.a. Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for this video. Sincerely, from everyone who doesnt main anji and just want to be ready for anji's weird shit
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Never let it be said that I don't share what the characters capabilities are.
@defianthound407
@defianthound407 Жыл бұрын
Been doing Kara super since day 1 of season 2 1 extra Fast Prc is nothing. Gotta ask have you learned the Backdash BRC Overheads with Anji. Itd be a fun video.
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
It's very on my list of things to implement. My biggest issue is not mashing too fast, the fast RC inputs have been one of my weaker execution points since the game launched.
@defianthound407
@defianthound407 Жыл бұрын
@@klaige same here. The timing was my big issue along with timing for Dash cancel Kou still can't consistently get that. But watching Jiro I've figured out the timing for The Brc backwash. Just chilling in his stream you can catch onto a lot of interesting tech
@Etholux
@Etholux Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if your opponent sees the autoguard, and does drift PRC back. Is that a completely safe way to make Midare whiff and also be safe from Midare Kara?
@xiniti8185
@xiniti8185 Жыл бұрын
PRC back drift on its own can be caught by Midare; haven’t tested but I think Issei Ougi is too big not to catch a backdash after that.
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Regular drift will get caught. Fast PRC backdash escapes Midare, but if you kara into Issei Ougi they are not escaping that even with the backdash.
@felipearango4257
@felipearango4257 Жыл бұрын
7:15 I've noticed the "punish" does not appear on the top left part of the screen, but it does when midare is used. Are you certain that isse will hit even if they try to block? (Without using PRC)
@Konannah1337
@Konannah1337 Жыл бұрын
Same issue, if bot is set to block, the fastest move i found i can punish with kara-issei oggi is Ky's fS (28 total frames) any jab or kick i spin end up in super getting blocked. Will PRC help or its just means my inputs are off?
@VesperHearts
@VesperHearts Жыл бұрын
I've been having the same problem. Kara super always gets blocked if I caught a fast button, but cancelling into c.S does still work against jabs​
@Coryinthrhouse
@Coryinthrhouse Жыл бұрын
Having the same issue right now vs Ky’s jab.
@Konannah1337
@Konannah1337 Жыл бұрын
After couple of hours in lab i figured that inputs were fine and adding fast PRC gives enough time to punish anything. Just keep in mind that bare kara-super will we waste of resource if opponent will try to block, but it still catches PRC backdash and slower moves (my therory that it punishes moves with 17frames of recovery left (Issei Ougi: Sai startup), but without exact info about how midare cancel works it hard to say)
@Y_A_Z_F
@Y_A_Z_F Жыл бұрын
So you cancel the ending frames of spin early with Midare, and cancel midare with super, and then cancel the super with rc, and then cancel the rc with c.S? I'm adding this to the list of tech I'm never going to pull off.
@Kollider115
@Kollider115 Жыл бұрын
You guys are better then me, but I’ve found gios close s has enough Active frames where the accidental input of counter hit super might be an option, assuming I understand this tech correctly
@dendri4861
@dendri4861 Жыл бұрын
Ufff I gonna try it
@VesperHearts
@VesperHearts Жыл бұрын
I can't get the kara sai to come out on its own, even with the shortcut, but somehow I can skip a step and get the FRC c.S by just mashing every button after the super input. I don't understand this game sometimes
@jk.bom_char
@jk.bom_char Жыл бұрын
funny i got this recommended to me as i was considering dropping anji, but now i might not
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
I think Anji can absolutely be competitive between the buffs to autoguard and the new universal system mechanics. It's obviously too early to make any definitive statements, but he feels like a character with enough to be a legit threat for the moment.
@iorilamia
@iorilamia Жыл бұрын
According to Reddit this video is why Anji is top tier in season 3 😂
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
One of hundreds of reasons I never have and never will have a reddit account lol.
@thatgoodstuff1986
@thatgoodstuff1986 Жыл бұрын
Can you not plink it and do 632146P~HS? Or does the hitstop make that impractical
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
The shortcut I was describing is definitely a plink, however you do need to hit the P before you hit 6 for the read to happen properly in my testing. Can you tell I didn't play much SF4?? Plink is a term i often just forget about lol.
@thatgoodstuff1986
@thatgoodstuff1986 Жыл бұрын
@@klaige ngl I only know what a plink is cuz I play pot, thanks for clearing it up tho!
@8Dk0ng8
@8Dk0ng8 Жыл бұрын
Can you not prc the spin and go for close slash ?
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Spin is locked out of using roman cancels once autoguard is activated.
@-mugen-
@-mugen- Жыл бұрын
Tf color is that? Never seen it on anji
@mia_2043
@mia_2043 Жыл бұрын
poggies
@lunafoxfire
@lunafoxfire Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Anji has cool stuff to do, but god spin is gonna be so toxic now lmao. Can't even counterplay it with low commit moves or you fuckin' explode.
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
I think it's disingenuous to call a move locked behind 10F startup thats in full counterhit state on startup and recovery "toxic" in the same game that HC and Nagoriyuki have run rampant in for over 2 years.
@lunafoxfire
@lunafoxfire Жыл бұрын
​@@klaige It's not disingenuous, it's just guilty gear. When someone says your main is toxic, the correct response is "yes and I love it". Also, yes I will continue to call the move where Anji, in neutral, directly attempts to bet 50% of his life vs 50% of yours "toxic" and "annoying", without irony, irrespective of his overall strength. And I think Anji mains should embrace that.
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
See you say embrace, but toxic is a word with connotations that drive people away or make them not want to explore the game further. This channel and my goals are the opposite, I want more people to play and enjoy Guilty Gear and to play and explore using Anji as one of their characters. It is disingenuous because if you call this toxic, you're saying every strong aspect of any character is toxic, which then implies the majority of good tools in the game is toxic. That is not a productive or healthy way to get people interested in your game. You can call it whatever you want, I can't stop you, but you're overlooking the negative impact that brings to a lot of people's eyes.
@lunafoxfire
@lunafoxfire Жыл бұрын
@@klaige my bad
@chkmte1304
@chkmte1304 Жыл бұрын
Patch has been out 2 days and people are already finding new tech lol
@oofieloofie29
@oofieloofie29 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit rare anji buff?
@YoTerrako
@YoTerrako Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t u just prc the dp? It’s not like this is an os or anything Edit: u can’t prc the dp huh
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
By DP do you mean the autoguard animation when someone swings into spin? Because no, you are not allowed to Roman Cancel the spin animation in any way, it's completely locked out, same goes for Midare itself, you can RC it after it hits or is blocked, but you are not allowed to PRC the startup.
@YoTerrako
@YoTerrako Жыл бұрын
@@klaige my dyslexia will not let me spell midare lol but that’s what I meant about the dp
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
@@YoTerrako Gotcha, yea Midare is locked out of being PRCed just like The invulnerable animation after you autoguard, hence why this Kara cancel is needed
@assymptoad4989
@assymptoad4989 Жыл бұрын
Anji was never weak. All the FGC "Influencers" gas lighted you into thinking he was.
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Question. Did you play launch Anji? Or even Any patch prior to his 5H buff midway through Season 2? Because he was extremely underequipped to handle anything in Strive throughout the entirety of that timeline.
@mistweaverjc7898
@mistweaverjc7898 Жыл бұрын
yo you really rambled in this. the first few minutes was just waayyy too much talking and getting side tracked and then getting side tracked again. you spent nearly 4 minutes prefacing with nonsense. Yeah im jus only a minute further now and you got side tracked again. Just show the tech first and then talk about it. maybe get talking points via a script and make it more to the point. show the tech, show it in matches and then give a breakdown and all that its just tough tryin to watch this
@klaige
@klaige Жыл бұрын
Hi, welcome to the channel, this is how I do videos. Take it or fuckin leave it bucko.
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