Pontiac GTO with 500 Horsepower LS Swap - Detroit Muscle S11, E8

[@Miltziff]

I don't hate LS engines but I do believe a GTO should have a pontiac engine

[@veto8792]

2004-2006 GTO’s came with LS engines.

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@Miltziff 💯 Agreed !

[@CJColvin]

​@veto8792 Yeah but the 04-06 Pontiac GTO was a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia 🇦🇺 unlike the original GTOs

[@tonysabatino4725]

Damn right!

[@mlp-hot-rod5824]

I love LS motors, but I would've loved to see that GTO get a Butler Performance Ram Air V 400 crate motor married to a TKX and a Safe-T Track diff w/ 3.55 gears out back. Plus, I'd rather see Toro Red with that black top to make it pop.

[@4eyefoxbodyfanclub625]

8:47 Socket fail, wake up Peyton 😂

[@classiccorvettesmusclecars5846]

As an owner of an LS3 Corvette I luv seeing this reliable engine being put in the classics.

[@rileyenia9388]

there is a time and place for a ls swap but a gto is not one of them a pontiac engine would of provifed so much better power for this application \

[@edwinj8275]

People need to quit hating on LS. They’re the way to go for a budget ish build per power.

[@CJColvin]

Both the LS, Coyote, and Gen III Hemi are all legendary late model V8s.

[@edwinj8275]

@@CJColvin amen

[@CJColvin]

@edwinj8275 Oh Yeah, also the 5.6L Endurance V8 in the Nissan Titan and the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra are both legendary engines as well.

[@Spiritof_76]

The hate is because they are unneeded in a factory muscle car like a GTO. It's a crap move. Put one in a base model and no one cares as much.

[@CJColvin]

@Spiritof_76 Putting an LS in a Tempest or Lemans they don't seem to care but to put one in a GTO (to them atleast) it's sacrilege.

[@roknroy1]

The reason people are tired of ls builds , me included, they’re like mid 80s red and black mustang gt’s when you went to the track about half the passes were red and black mustangs I like to be something different so people can see my own creation

[@Notasheepleandneverwillbe]

They did a build on a BMW recently , and I don't think it got nearly as many views . There's enough KZbin channels that are anti-American pro-german Japanese cars . Let this one be American .

[@Notasheepleandneverwillbe]

The only thing I don't like about the LS in a classic car . Is the individual coils mounted to the valve covers . It's bad enough that they're black valve covers . A classic muscle car deserves chrome valve covers . And a out of the way fender mounted coil .

[@innsanewayne]

Seems like covering the coil packs with those valve covers would tend to make them overheat.

[@kevinnesbit7402]

I love you guys been watching since day 1 so about 30 yrs + but can't stand the LS swaps in GTO's Trans Am's and older cars. I'm a purest

[@charlesnick5292]

Pontiac, Pontiac motor period

[@tbdaemon]

I liked Tommy's method for calculating inflation. Basically, power steering would've been the equivalent of an $800 option today.

[@tonysabatino4725]

That LS is the last thing that belongs in that car. Pontiac engines always ripped, made tons of torque and plenty of “reliable power.”

[@gregbarnes7946]

We're on the good goat

[@FE428Power]

Another project and no mercury Cougar 😢. Need to show Mercury some love please.

[@CJColvin]

Agreed 100% give it the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8 it deserves as well.

[@deankay4434]

Tommy, even tough this video was released a month ago, I would be nice to get a parts list like the “LS” swap motor mounts used in the next episode (S11, E16) which is not on KZbin. Tell management that customers can’t tape, record, write down or get info on everything used. That would help everyone. You guys, the selling company, and “Gray TV Inc”. Thanks kindly!

[@craigstark2712]

I've never understood the hate on LS engines. Dimensionally small, lightweight, great power, and abundant. Practicality is hated?

[@bepbep7418]

Because it's a Chevy engine in a Pontiac. Back in the day, there was competition from other divisions of GM not just other manufacturers, they ALL wanted to be top dawg.

[@brotherscoobs]

Probably because everyone swaps em into everything...personally I couldn't care less...do your swap however ya wanna do it

[@bertgrau3934]

​@@brotherscoobs Agreed. I put a 500 cubic inch Cadillac in a 77 Chevy pickup. It was different, but had more than enough power to haul a ton of weight on a half ton pickup. Plus it got 16 MPG on highway. Better than the 350 it replaced.

[@jeromeirving4770]

People back in the 60s said the same thing about the small block Chevy. A lot people didn't like the small block replacing the flat head or the nail head to be the engine to have

[@Notasheepleandneverwillbe]

I saw a magazine article talking about all of the different crate engines and their prices . The most expensive one was a stroked 4 l Jeep engine and the cheapest was the Cadillac 500 . It was close to $7000 for the stroked Jeep engine , and the Cadillac 500 was under $2000 ​. I never really could wrap my head around that one . @@bertgrau3934

[@Cave_Monkeys]

FULL VIDEO PLEASE 🙏

[@vickypratamaputra4363]

1969 Pontiac GTO Engine Butler Performance

[@danieljohnson2349]

Would you put a coyote engine in a 1969 RS/SS camaro , or put an LS in a 1968 Shelby ? Probably not . Why on Earth wouldn't you put a Butler Performance PONTIAC engine in this very iconic PONTIAC muscle car ?! LS in a '69 GTO 😢 (Spell check edit)

[@Spiritof_76]

An LS engine in a GTO? Unless it's the imported Australian late-model GTO, that's just wrong. It should have a 400 or 455 Pontiac. Why the hell do people think this is the route to take?

[@aijalonjames474]

Everyone hates the “LS” until it came to the fourth gen f bodies and short lived Holden/GTO in the states. Price out that Butler 400 stroker compared to an LS. 😅

[@danieljohnson2349]

Man , l *like* LS engines , and l *love* old Pontiacs - l just can't bear to see the two together , it ain't fit .

[@chuckkfinnley]

i can hear the words that were said when ya'll dove into the firewall.........

[@P.E.O.ll-RhodesScholarGraduate]

Top Secret/Penske/Pontiac GTO R34 is the first 4WD Muscle Cup Car that got banned by US regulators while in Japan after reverse engineering at Top Secret Co. Headquarters. I got a muscle truck also, Baja 1000 style. ✌️ Manufacturers replacement part numders engineering.

[@djopaque]

What belt acc drive are they running

[@Z-Bart]

$3,178. I'll take 10 GTX please.

[@jenseninterceptors]

I installed a new clutch once and the the input splines just wouldnt go in until i took it all back out and fit it together on the garage floor, after that it was a snug fit geez (

[@bertgrau3934]

I think it's supposed to be a sung/tight fit, otherwise you rev the engine, dump the clutch and the clutch/ input shaft splines strip. Not good.

[@bigslim492]

Tommy I understand that the LS is an incredibly easy swap and they make great power but I absolutely hate the L f,ng S simply because everyone is using them. It’s like no imagination. I would much rather have seen you use a real Pontiac engine like a 400 or 455 with some modern fuel injection but it’s not my build. At least you covered up those ugly plastic individual coils. However Tommy I have been watching you for years and I enjoy everything you build. You are a great craftsman.

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@bigslim492 💯 Agreed 👍👍👍

[@samd7601]

That’s a big boy with a toy👍

[@SGTJDerek]

The only issue I have with an LS Swap is the same one I've had with all engines since the '80's. Blocks should be Pontiac Blue.

[@thomasallen259]

You can fix anything if you toss enough money at it...$$$

[@Paul-ik8fm]

I understand that a LS engine is really good in so many ways but i don't think you can or should stick them in everything. If you are doing a Ford or a Pontiac or other car manufacturer it should a brand specific engine

[@CJColvin]

Totally agree 100%

[@DaemonWulf7]

i'm a Pontiac guy, so i could make a pretty valid case for the 400 being one of the greatest engines ever built. awesome as the LS is, it'll never fill the 400's shoes, so it shouldn't live where a 400 did.

[@CJColvin]

@DaemonWulf7 Instead you should make that 400 Pontiac V8 into a 461 Stroker.

[@DaemonWulf7]

@@CJColvin it's an option.. the 408 is a good one too... long as its based on a 400

[@fjls69]

Preachin to the choir in the comments. Shulda built a Pontiac motor for her

[@NorthernHDrider]

🤘🤘Tommy🤘🤘

[@NorthernHDrider]

Your presence on explaining proper steps is mint. Now I know why my truck is a bugger to shift into reverse.

[@lewisdeclouette6342]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@sampickens1998]

The only thing I can tell you did wrong, you did not check the lower end fasteners for tightness.

[@taylorh3930]

Ls swap all the way 👊 The hell with that carbureted junk

[@danielwilson6665]

Yet another LS swap. Wow ! How original is that ?

[@lrecollet]

As original as Ford and Mopar swap. Nothing really new .

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@danielwilson6665 💯 Agreed!

[@Person.555]

hard eye roll at this comment

[@danielwilson6665]

@@Person.555 🙄👀

[@BigUnitBeef]

First you LS-ted the 69 oldsmobile. Now the GTO. Why not the Butler 455 with a Fi-tech fuel injection or Holly sniper? So much hate these days for kerping it pure. And no, just because it's made by GM doesn't make it pure.

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@BigUnitBeef 💯 Agreed !

[@CJColvin]

Agreed 100%

[@P.E.O.ll-RhodesScholarGraduate]

US regulated NASCAR stamped steel only, NO carbon fiber " GLASS ".

[@t0mn8r35]

We are sooo old! $40.02 lol...

[@pasttime8450]

I really want to do this on my 82 Dodge D150

[@tsmartin]

I will not be following the GTO build. NO LS ...... EVER!!!!!

[@nukesaway4806]

Put it in a Pontiac Sunfire, Olds Aurora, 87 Olds Cutlass Ciera GT , 96 Chevy Beretta or 88 Olds calais. Or the GTO.

[@KaseKnife95]

Yall should do a 3.7 cyclone build/swap

[@CJColvin]

Or better yet a 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10 built by 2 young men from a KZbin Channel called Build it Yourself.

[@KaseKnife95]

@@CJColvin i love that channel, but i really wana see someone push the cyclone to its limits, i have major bias bc i drive a 3.7 mustang but i wana see what the engine can do when built

[@CJColvin]

@@KaseKnife95 Nice

[@Harley.Davidson]

😂 Woo-Hooo another LS swap! Pathetic.....

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@Harley.Davidson 💯 Agreed !

[@mikelshelvin7626]

What type of heads they had on the LS1

[@stevansaunders18]

I am Ford guy but Whats not to like about the LS? Inexpensive (relatively speaking) big power with reliability. It’s a great platform

[@PK-ne8hk]

Ya another chev in Pontiac boring put a Pontiac in it. U could still do fi. Its just same thing with engines.

[@scottdawson8844]

Tommy ypur a beast man lol :))

[@garyslentzii2796]

Too much time between episodes, I need more!

[@dalemckenzie2279]

Another LS swap?.... This is getting repetitive.

[@nasty3145]

...... What would you like to see? It bolts right in. It's better then a SBC. I have a 1931 ford coupe. With a wornout SBC so I'm looking to do this. Why better HP, better mileage, cheaper cost. What's the problem?

[@dalemckenzie2279]

@@nasty3145 huh ... Well maybe a Pontiac big block . I'm sorry if that angers you that I don't think a LS should go between the fenders of everything..... friggin fanboys lol 😂😂😂

[@nickscotto3605]

So is everyone's complaining about LS engines.

[@CJColvin]

​@@nasty3145What about the 5.6L VK56DE V8 (aka the 5.6L Endurance V8 from the Nissan Titan) goes into that 32 Ford?

[@nasty3145]

@CJColvin look at it like Legos. You can literally bolt on nay AM intake combo. Any new set of heads (assuming bore is large enough) headers, piston. It's such a modular engine the world is yiur oyster. Try that with a 5.6l titan engine.

[@groman9664]

Hell yeah!