I drive 2 different 300s on a daily basis and literally just tore down a 390 today.
@davidhicks7450 Жыл бұрын
300 Ford best engine ever for daily worked pickup. Notice I did not daily driven. Have had 12 of them in f.150s ftomn1981s to 96s. I prefer the fuel injected backed by c6 trans.
@prospector5572 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing to love about this 2 bolt main boat anchor motor.
@dylanjones6782 жыл бұрын
First of all I'm going to take a moment to appreciate the presentation you guys give, you guys kept the same format and its awesome. I remember around 2003 on Sunday mornings sitting on my bed as a 9 year old watching "the power block" on the TNT network from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. good memories. Glad to see y'all still got it!
@dudefromlaveenaz Жыл бұрын
same! good freakin times!
@CadillacZachOffical2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see an FE build, we built a 390 for my truck using mostly ford parts, with a few aftermarket upgrades, 390 std rotating assembly, ported c8ae-h iron heads, upgraded valve springs, comp thumper cam, Holley street dominator intake, Holley 750cfm 4bbl, long tube headers. HV oil pump with restrictions in the heads, oem non adjustable rocker assembly, hydraulic flat tappet lifters from summit. Turned out exactly as desired, a reliable torque monster with a really nice sounding idle.
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
I did pretty much the same thing building a replacement 390 engine for my 4 door galaxie, more of a daily driver car. 4.080" bore 390, L2291F pistons, zero decked block, I spent a lot of money on the machine work so that was all right instead of just slapping aftermarket parts on it "trying to make it faster". I used a set of nicely rebuilt C1AE heads with my stock original 352 4V intake (ports matched perfectly) didn't even bother with headers, I resurfaced those on a large belt sander and sand blasted them clean, just a good custom exhaust system. 10:1 compression, comp cams XE262H cam, machine shop did the oiling mods to the block for me free of charge, used a HV pump. Stock non adjustable rocker arms. That thing runs pretty damn good, especially with the 3.70 gear and 2200 stall torque converter I have. Never would have guessed it would have been so powerful for all of the stock components, and how fast and freely it revs to the 5500-6000 RPM range, with a stock single point distributor at that!
@djaspurh2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Always wanted to do a 390 build since you very seldom see them.
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Sure hope so, it better for what that cost.
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 well my stock big block jimbob ford makes my aluminum headed crammed 351W with headers look like a piece of shit, so who cares.
@CadillacZachOffical2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 bring your 306 and a chain. Me and my 390 are waiting to donkey punch you.
@OmarRamirezGalaxie2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see these Ford Fe beasts!! From marine blocks in boats to 428s in industrial irrigation pumps, to 427 all out racing engines at the track. These engines have a lot of history and heritage. I’m currently building a 428 with the 3 deuces setup in a 64 galaxie but I’m sure “grandpas truck” did a lot of burnouts back in the day hahaha
@OmarRamirezGalaxie2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I think I’ve seen that one, if it’s blue with white stripes
@fenatic74842 жыл бұрын
Hey Omar, you are getting to be a hoarder with all of those 428s, have you thought of maybe sharing the wealth? 😂. I am glad that you have one for the Galaxie and the Torino! I really like the color on the Torino. A 428 would be really good!
@fenatic74842 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamirezGalaxie I saw a picture of one with a BBC that was painted pink with these stripes it was surrounded by a bunch of dudes wearing makeup like that guy from Smashing Pumpkins that made you want to look the other way? I n not one to judge but I don’t preach on street corners or anything….
@OmarRamirezGalaxie2 жыл бұрын
@@fenatic7484 lol I want them all, all the 428s hahaha
@donnamoss96502 жыл бұрын
WHAT is wrong with you jokers -- put the block in your thousand dollar hot cleaner but do NOT remove the oil feed galley plugs.... WTH???? How much crap is left in the UNCLEANED oil feed galleries of a top oiler FE????? 15 year olds know better..... Can't trust another word you say when you make such a serious mistake from the beginning..... What about block to main bearing oil passage alignment????
@FESpecialties2 жыл бұрын
38 degrees of total timing is what the RPM heads want!! Also, a 1131 Silvolite piston would have brought you 9.7 to 1 compression which the FE series really likes!! We are not a big fan of the Keith Black pistons!! Too low of static compression!! Also, aligning up the main saddle oil passages to the main beatings is crucial! Intake centerline should have been at 108, not 104!!
@jesusisalive32272 жыл бұрын
I just found my boy a 428 crank to stick in his 390. It is going to be fun building the 410 for his f100 4x4. Would you have a cam recommend? It's a hunting truck but he also likes to play in the mud so we are looking for good low end power.
@MrFantasylover12 жыл бұрын
I agree with you FESpecialties. This was a sad build and waste of money for the amount of roller camshaft with over 600 lift and 1.72 rocker ratio it should have made way more power
@Pedrofitbulls2 жыл бұрын
@@jesusisalive3227 I got somes o
@Ltngdrvr2 жыл бұрын
Yes, many mistakes on this build, could have been so much better for hardly any more money.
@stevenmyers22522 жыл бұрын
Is there a cam you would recommend? I plan on doing my first build to refresh a recent F250 purchase. Not looking for a race car but a fun weekend tire melter :-)
@johnlocke65842 жыл бұрын
Used a 391FT block and a 428 crank to build a 30 overbored 413 for my friend's 68 HiBoy. Didn't dyno it, but he was VERY happy with the torque!!
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
very cool 413 FE , the engine Pat did here seems short on efficiency, low power with the gigantic cam , he should use a lot less cam and maybe just flow work on the stock heads with new valves
@menogusta98292 жыл бұрын
@@nerradnosnhoj5122 they also mentioned low compression
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
@@menogusta9829 383 sbc with 9.2 ; 1 compression slaps the crap out of that ford turd over 480 torque at 3500 and 420 hp at 5200 ,. vortec heads and a mild 220 @ 050 roller cam
@menogusta98292 жыл бұрын
@@nerradnosnhoj5122 imo its sbc for a (gas) working truck and ls/bbc for big power. But I dont see anything wrong with building what you have, depending on the goal
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
@@menogusta9829 certainly , and use your dollars efficiently , the numbers here are attainable for a lot less $$$ check videos from David Vizard
@davekent48292 жыл бұрын
I've had several of these FE moters over the years, a 66 t bird, 70 wagon, a few trucks, didn't baby them, never hurt one. Impressive performance on the cheap, now I have one in my slammed 70 F 250, just headers, 4:11s, plenty of power with a 2 bbl.
@paulne15142 жыл бұрын
You almost sound like me. Have had an Edsel w/332, 65 wagon w/352, 67 wagon w390, 66 t-bird w/428. Cars fell apart( after being hit 4 times, ) but motors kept running. Still have the last 2
@thewaterboyjjx175 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 70 wagon with a 390!
@skgate2 жыл бұрын
My favorite car/truck engine of all time.. might not even be close to the most powerful but I love they way they sound and feel.. some day I’ll have a 67-69 mustang with a 4 speed 390 or a f100 390
@ccjensen46702 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the "old days" In 1966 I was driving a 59 Galaxie with a 352" and three speed with O.D. I was taking engine rebuilding at our local JC when I met a man on the street who offered me a 427 FE block outof a drag car....$75.00 with a broken rod wrapped around it's neighbor wedged between the counter weights..took a chance and went for it...got two used rods and Pistons out of the junk yard...block was OK. Stuck it in the car...broke it in...and finally put my foot in it. Scattered the three speed and limped home. Went to another junk yard and bought all the running gear from the block to the rear end out of another wrecked 427" Galaxie. I replaced my mag wheels with stock steelies with stock hubcaps and a set of cheater slicks. Powder blue and white car looked like ma Mas grocery getter. Street raced a 56 Chevy gasser with a 327" and four speed...blew him away. 30 years later I was telling the story to a friend who exclaimed "I built that car...you were racing my brother" American Graffiti was fimed next door in Petaluma CA and some of my high school friends worked on the cars. I was blessed to live "the real deal"
@randr102 жыл бұрын
The 327 sbc is no joke, but yeah, no way it's staying with a 427 FE in a similar weight car. The 427 revs like a 283 but with all those extra cubes.
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
Your bragging about blowing away a small block 327 with a big block 427 with like double the HP?
@albertgaspar6272 жыл бұрын
@@unclequack5445 Ever hear of Bill Grumpy Jenkins? Put a lot of big blocks on the trailer with 327's. they have a great rod-to-stroke ratio and can be wound up like an alarm clock--pick the right power-to-weight car combo and you can make grown men cry.
@unclequack54452 жыл бұрын
@@albertgaspar627 Albert the baddest ass ride I ever owned had a 327 and a 4 speed I think it was 3.73 rear.
@albertgaspar6272 жыл бұрын
@@unclequack5445 what car was it in?
@albertgaspar6272 жыл бұрын
I know this was a budget build, but with the 410 merc pistons already there, it would have been interesting to pick up a 428 crank (not like this show doesn't get aftermarket parts free) and see what 410 cid would accomplish.
@gd-rn7xm2 жыл бұрын
I had a 75 high boy growing up with a 390.........love this episode takes me back to my younger years. thanks guys
@craigpennington125113 күн бұрын
Clarify yourself. A 75 High Boy?
@gd-rn7xm12 күн бұрын
@craigpennington1251 1975 f250 4x4, originally a 360, but changed to 390, 4spd granny, divorced transfer case. Those 250's back in the day were all called high boys because they sat higher from the factory
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
This FE would be a great swap for an old school F100.
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 True.
@RegulerShowTV2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 also 2-3 times as much money
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
@@RegulerShowTV Yep you got that right brother.
@RegulerShowTV2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 i’m trying to, currently in college
@Pedrofitbulls2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 big dually yessir
@jasoncummings17552 жыл бұрын
Nice build. Love the FE! Just gor those who don't know, if this build would of used Trick Flow heads the hp would have been more impressive. Probably upwards of 50-60 hp. The ebooks are nothing more than clone iron heads. Nothing special. This engine with 9.8: 1 and Trick flow heads hits 500hp.
@JimBronson2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the head selection makes no sense and is holding this combination back. Cam is 238/244 @.050 with .618 lift on close to 400ci with the bored cylinders? Needs more flow. And compression, 9.1 with aluminum heads makes no sense either. They left a lot of power on the table with this build.
@tylermccarren5652 жыл бұрын
Bump the compression up 2 points and some AFR heads. She would scream
@rtroll77622 жыл бұрын
I believe Edelbrock had a say so in this build 😂😂
@albertgaspar6272 жыл бұрын
Considering how well aluminum heads handle heat, you can typically run one point higher compression than cast iron heads. so yeah i think EazyE77 hit the nail on the head.
@stevenmyers22522 жыл бұрын
For those commenting if you were to go with stock / upgraded iron heads how high would you limit the compression ratio ? Not sure I have the coin to do heads as I would probably skip right over E Brock’s and they are quick pricey.
@txnetcop2 жыл бұрын
Easiest to modify and take a beating...great video!
@atleastmypalmsarewhite99602 жыл бұрын
Need more 351 Cleveland builds
@David-xh2yt2 жыл бұрын
True
@elmerfudpucker32042 жыл бұрын
if you haven't heard of it, visit Drag Boss Garage. Lots of great Cleveland stuff there, and lots of links to more.
@fenatic74842 жыл бұрын
Need Cleveland heads and intakes for the 4.63 spacing FE with stroker cranks. 4.125bore 4.25 stroke 454 FE that can make 700 hp NA at 6700.
@fordenginebuildersv8power1842 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
Nah. FE is more fun. Not so temperamental, venerable engine. Cleveland is a brat.
@deanharris71492 жыл бұрын
FE majic! Love the old FE’s. Personally, I would’ve removed the oil galley plugs at the back of the block, tapped the holes and pipe plugged with some locktite. I watch this channel WAY more now that you’ve got a Ford guy working there.
@hairymongrell2 жыл бұрын
you guys could run alot more comp with that cam ! is there a reason you guys are running such low comp ? just curious. im sure this engine would be very safe with 10.5-1 with the same rpm limit. unless you struggled with piston options ? which would be undestandable.
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
my question is about that cam , thats a lot of duration and lift for a mild street engine, you want peak HP below 5500, and stronger midrange torque I seen 383 sbc with 9.2:1 compression , with vortec heads and a 220/228 duration .510 lift 112 lobe cam get 420HP @ 5200rpm and 465 Torque 3600rpm , with the factory air cleaner housing on and a Quadrajet carb, That 390 should be capable of 415 HP under 5500 rpm and more tha 445 torque at 3600-4000 ,It does have a 3.7" stroke so it should get more than 445 torque and you want that to carry a nice flat curve with peak HP around 5100-5200 , This 390 having 445 lbft of torque at 3700 is ok , a more optimum , milder cam might lift that up and produce peak HP around 5100 rpm, that is a nice street engine 4 a truck,,
@nealschebell75457 ай бұрын
That 390 is one tough motor
@BobbyOfEarth2 жыл бұрын
These 60's era Ford FE engines were really something in drag racing and Nascar. Most noteworthy was Fords 390 FE, where in 1961 was available with the three deuce option which made 401 hp. Imagine a brand new 1961 Ford Starliner (black) with the 390 and a 4 speed, ..always a big hit with the chicks down at the tasty freeze..
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the cam spec on that 401 HP three Deuce 390 compared to the roller used here , The 61 may have higher compression . The engine rebuilt here seems short on power with that much cam , other pump gas engines with less cu.in. do better with .100 less lift and 14" less duration.
@BuzzLOLOL2 жыл бұрын
@@nerradnosnhoj5122 - Yes, this Ford 390 performs like a SBC 350 with stock Vortec iron truck heads and a Summit flat tappet 224/234 cam...
@BuzzLOLOL2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, chicks may have gone for the convertible version...
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL the camshaft and heads being used on this Ford , are not good choice Blueprint SBC mild 383 crush this Turd easily with milder cams , stock vortec head and a little less displacement. A Ford 390 has a 3.70 stroke, SBC stroker 383 has 3.75 I think the Ford has better potential with a milder cam & Heads for better velocity,
@BobbyOfEarth2 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL ..those are the ones who never unlock the door for you.
@michaelskrhak65182 жыл бұрын
I love my fe I’ve absolutely beat the crap out of it for the past 12 years and it still sounds good. It’s getting tired but still runs very strong!
@drtb692 жыл бұрын
Fun fact with Aluminum heads , intake and water pump that FE weighs less than a 350 chevy
@rethrojeacher84642 жыл бұрын
Look on Pat's face when Mike says "these motors were never really known for making power". 😂
@chipwright61932 жыл бұрын
Maybe Mike was thinking of the 351M. The FE was a little before his time. 😅
@BuzzLOLOL2 жыл бұрын
Correct, this Ford 390 performs like a budget SBC 350 with stock Vortec iron truck heads and a Summit flat tappet 224/234 cam...
@nerradnosnhoj51222 жыл бұрын
@@chipwright6193 lol , those stock 351 M's were a gas guzzling TURD !
@chipwright61932 жыл бұрын
@@nerradnosnhoj5122 I know, that was my point 😅
@MrFantasylover12 жыл бұрын
Really weak compression and a waste of money. Junk
@scottowens9402 жыл бұрын
1975 F-250 XLT Ranger has the 360 changed to a 390 out of a 68 Galaxy 500. Had a 428cobra jet in a Torino and feel in love with the big block Ford's, they just have a good vibe when they are happy. Funniest thing is I had that Cobra and back then the only other thing I looked at with admiration was a highboy Ford. Good time's and hello to the Ford Fan's 😎
@keithbishop3052 жыл бұрын
Love the FE. Still hoping you’ll do a Y Block build one of these days too. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
@keithbishop3052 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Do you have a link to the video? I can't seem to find it
@keithbishop3052 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 No need to be rude. Yes, I understand that FE's have a deep skirted block, as do countless other engines. As I'm sure you are aware, the term Y-Block most commonly refers to the Ford 272/292/312 series of V8 engines. This is what I was referring to and I would like to see the Engine Power guys do a build on one.
@spaceghost89952 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 No they are not.
@billionllc10 ай бұрын
Seems like too much cam for only 9 to 1 compression, "mostly stock"? You used aluminum heads and roller rockers. Those should be for a 600hp+ engine. This doesn't sound like a good engine, sounds like LS Chevy guys building a Ford FE 😢
@jmumbauer2 жыл бұрын
@7:35 should be ROLLER cams install with only engine oil, hydraulic flat tappets definitely need the moly lube. I love the FE content! Keep it coming!!!
@wawacan2 жыл бұрын
Didn't read this far before I posted. Yes.
@thomashines90922 жыл бұрын
Love those FE ford I would love to see y'all do a 410 FE for a hot rod or a mild racing engine like y'all did the 445fe. Thanks
@davidblalock99452 жыл бұрын
One step y’all missed: the main seal must first be set to flush, then checked for crush hight. 5-15 thou on each half will ensure proper crush. I try to file the end till is 10 thou.
@blanchae2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Everyone who has built an FE block and doesn 't want a rear main seal link cares.
@billtribble71972 жыл бұрын
i always wondered what those factory bigblock intakes intakes weighed. they could get heavy if you had to pull one off with the engine in chassis. i enjoyed the video. i remember tri powered 406 engines. fast back in the 1960s.
@brianwood74802 жыл бұрын
I'm coming back to watch this again. I had a Sky-Blue 67 Country Squire with the 390 4-barrel. My first car here in the USA back in 1979. Bulletproof, and 17mpg when leaded gas was about 76 cents per gallon.
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
Great engine.
@RichTexas825135 ай бұрын
17 out of a 390 is pretty damn good!
@AndieBlack132 жыл бұрын
At 8:22 I see your using a "factory" full-length hex shaped oil-pump driveshaft...a big no-no ...At 1:23 , see that roll-pin on the gear on the distributor?...If the oil-pump locks up for ANY reason, that roll-pin will likely have enough strength to twist apart that skinny driveshaft....This scenario will have your ignition still working & the engine still running , but with a non-functioning oil pump. Get the thick-walled 3/8 " driveshaft instead....
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
Yup it happens.
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
I tore apart an original never been apart 352 that was a good runner, and the oil pump driveshaft was about to strip out where it indexed into the oil pump itself. Wasn't twisted, but the edges of the hex were rounded off where it went into the pump. Scary!
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I think the best thing to prevent that is getting rid of those damn umbrella valve stem seals that crystalize and fall apart after about 50,000 miles. Those seem to be the biggest cause of why oil pumps lock up and the shafts fail. I'd be interested to see what happens to an ARP driveshaft should the pump encounter something to lock it up vs the stock shafts that turn into a pretzel.
@MattsRageFitGarage2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Never said they were to avoid a locked-up pump. However, those shitty stock pump driveshafts are known to fail when using thicker oil in cold climates WITHOUT the pump locking up, such as repeated cold starts in the wintertime. Mine damn near failed and the pump wasn't locked up and didn't show any signs of it ever locking up. Now, go find someone else to beat your schlong off to, I'm getting quite tired of dealing with people today.
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 doesn't have to be a locked up pump. I've seen them break because the pickup tube was full of silicone debris. Also if the pan gets bent into the pickup which happens on trucks often. The stock pump drive is fine most of the time, there's just not much extra strength if something out of the ordinary happens. The ft version found in big trucks had a bigger oil pump drive stock because they all had hi pressure/volume pumps for on board air compressors.
@grandcrappy Жыл бұрын
Great meat & potatoes performance without exotic, pricey rare parts.
@FordMan-pe7sm2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that is too much cam for that compression ratio. Lift should probably be in the 530 or 540 range and duration in the 220 range on a 112 centerline. Would probably make more power. Or bring the compression ratio up to at least 10.5 to 1 with that cam.
@Mikey-wf9py2 жыл бұрын
Old man had a 71 F100 with built 390 in the 80s and it was a monster in the mud.... Loved riding in it as a kid
@Mahaney822 жыл бұрын
I dont know anyone in real life who has had any luck with E3 plugs, except on small engines like lawn mowers.
@silentbobfan322 жыл бұрын
A lot of engines really like them, especially the older mechanical distribution motors. I have seen a few computer controlled cars have issues adjusting the curve though.
@jesusisalive32272 жыл бұрын
I've got a 1970 f100 long box that would just love this engine!
@geoffmcnew5863 Жыл бұрын
I run a Tony Oddo, Jr. 428-SCJ in my Mach 1. FEs with aluminum heads and intake are as light as an all-iron small block. 460 hp, 490 ft-lbs w/ CJ manifolds - NO headers.
@dadgarage79662 жыл бұрын
The hosts did a phenomenal job of masking their luke warm response to the numbers the engine laid down on the dyno.
@Look_What_You_Did Жыл бұрын
400 is exactly where it should land. Guess dad doesn't know fck all.
@dadgarage7966 Жыл бұрын
@@Look_What_You_Did Dad knows fack all or doesn't know fack all?
@slowstang882 жыл бұрын
If this was a Shabbylet, they would have swapped cams, done 4 timing changes, intakes, carb spacers, and carbs
@jeffwoody98572 жыл бұрын
When people ask who taught you how to build your first motor, I honestly say from watching Power Nation. So much info on every video. Thanks guys!
@Look_What_You_Did Жыл бұрын
Read a book or two...
@quevicular2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised you guys didnt get way more power from this motor. The 390 was 335 hp and 427ft lb stock. Figured this design should render at least 450hp. Im very surprised at the torque levels here. Not much improvement. Harmonic balancer at 14:58 looks very warbly. Very strange
@bjr23792 жыл бұрын
Cool build, but that oil pan is never coming off. Lol!
@willfrancone39082 жыл бұрын
I daily drive a 390 in my F100. Lots of stock internals, with some bolt on stuff. Rebuilt it when I was 17 (Only 1 year ago) Runs great. This gave me a few more ideas for my build.
@willfrancone39082 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Nah, I'm a Ford guy. 😎
@willfrancone39082 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I started with a Ford, and I am more familiar with their products then Gm or Mopar.
@glengee44622 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 just build a 460 and as you’d say “donkey stomp a Chevy”
@slick-px4pq2 жыл бұрын
@@willfrancone3908 I've seen your channel, are you still using the 4 speed? A really nice upgrade for a daily driver would be a tremec tko. I built a 445 and ran the 4 speed for awhile. I put in a tko 600 and am much happier.
@willfrancone39082 жыл бұрын
@@slick-px4pq I am still using the 4 speed. I would love to do a 5 or 6 speed, But it's expensive. There's a guy who is possibly going to make an adaptor to fit a zf5 behind an FE, so maybe I'll wait for that. Having an overdrive must be nice behind these gas hogs.
@josephrohr61192 жыл бұрын
Ford does not call their motor's big block small blocks they call them families fe is a family
@Northern_Farmer2 жыл бұрын
I have a 390 sitting in a 67 bird in my yard...shame..something should be done with it
@darwindodge62602 жыл бұрын
Those was actually the correct pistons 390 fe truck engine used the 410 pistons The passenger car engine used the 390 pistons. The common thing to do back in the day was to install the car pistons in the trucks during rebuild or swap in a 428 crank those netting a 410 . The 360 done the same thing the truck engine received 390 pistons and the passenger cars got 360 pistons
@gkinghsmith93522 жыл бұрын
Really like the build. Suggest you never by-pass checking the oil pressure and AFR before you make any runs at all.
@Look_What_You_Did Жыл бұрын
Clowns believe if it isn't on video it didn't happen.
@vandalsr19592 жыл бұрын
E 3 plugs are not worth the price have tried them on 3 different vehicles
@cdchevyboi9372 жыл бұрын
Can y'all do a 396 BBC???
@RyanBenbow4 ай бұрын
I agree with you more big block Chevy engine builds
@Blando78872 жыл бұрын
you got an ink pen I could use?
@aroundlinemen Жыл бұрын
Are all the fe 352 360 390 blocks the same ?
@DeathComesSwiftly2 жыл бұрын
We have a 76 F250 with the last of the 390 big block and that engine is a monster. Endless torque and power.
@lsandk32 жыл бұрын
I built a 428 CJ from parts even managed to find some cross bolt main caps. I used the HS rockers and a gear drive. Back when I built it $350 seemed to be the magic number for parts. Intake rear sump pan etc. Expensive engine to build but what a stump puller.
@davidshiverdecker2922 жыл бұрын
Seems like everybody's an fe-yn critic.
@76629online2 жыл бұрын
I like how they didn’t discuss piston ring installation and indexing, piston orientation and connecting rod orientation on the crankshaft. All very critical details.
@aroundlinemen2 жыл бұрын
Love ford engine s thanks
@danhambrick63312 жыл бұрын
Man I wish Mike was still on this show...
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
A 427 SOHC Cammer V8 can be another great FE.
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Or a custom home made 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10.
@CJColvin2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 As you wish mate. Sometimes it's nice being unique though.
@andrewward18872 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt the 390 in my 64 Galaxy it had 100,000 miles on it,the crank and rod bearings virtually had no wear on them and they were original.
@twinturbocoyoteftw2 жыл бұрын
I think you could have made another 40hp if you would have used pistons with a smaller ring thickness.
@thegdfp64472 жыл бұрын
.200 more stroke via a 410/428 crank, wouldn't be much more than the new pistons.
@richdouche8253 Жыл бұрын
390 is a great truck engine. They spec'd a custom cam, so this build should have had a cam with 106LSA using the David Vizard "128 formula".
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
390 was put in nearly everything Ford had at the time. And worked well in every application. Give me a 67 390 2barrel in a full size Ford car. Good on gas and power.
@richdouche8253 Жыл бұрын
@@jesse75 390 made good torque with factory heads and intake, but if you're building one for horsepower output, everything spec'd differently. A truck is heavy and needs torque.... Just like a full sized car. Use a 390-2v all day long, I've seen first hand their grunt strength. But in factory form they're a truck engine.
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
@@richdouche8253 define factory form ? The car 390 and truck 390 are different. 390 first used in heavy cars. The 352 was phased out in favor of the 390 in trucks in 68.
@richdouche8253 Жыл бұрын
@@jesse75 Factory form 390's, whether put in cars or trucks, have never been known as big horsepower engines. The runner and port design, size and shape. Combustion chambers. Valve angles. Etc etc. were not designed for making big horsepower. Fantastic for vacuum and low and mid and great torque for street use, but nobody was winning races with the 390 compared to competitor big blocks in factory trim. Even look at this build... These guys have 390 cubes (plus), and were barely making over 1hp per cube with aftermarket heads, roller cam, rockers, intake and carbs. Hell.... I'd rather have lighter and smaller Windsor stroked to 393 that could churn out more horses on the same mild street stuff. I'm not bashing the 390. It's just never been known as a heavy breather. Especially in factory form. In any configuration that it was sold to the public.
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
@@richdouche8253 just like the 351w, the 390 never was a performance engine. Maybe in it's infantcy, but the 406 and 427 were the performance engine. Again. In the 60's and early 70's, the 390 powered nearly everything. It was just a grocery getter like the 351 Windsor, being used in cars and trucks. Oh wow. They put a 4 barrel carb on these engines, but they didn't amount to anything special. Just moved around a heavy vehicle. But the 390 is still a venerable engine. Everyone of these engines I find at a wrecking. I buy. Rebuild. And never have a problem selling. The engine is in high demand where I live. I must have did 70 of these engines so far. And it's true, many of the stock original pistons are marked 410 on them. But not the car engines, those pistons are different.
@danmallery91422 жыл бұрын
Really nice build. I love my Harland Sharp rockers. Such good quality. I have a set on my 1st gen Bronco that I have had on for about 20 years! One thing on the 390: good power on a conservative build, although I was surprised it did not respond a little more to adding 5 degrees of timing. I was thinking 20-25, not that 15 is bad.
@BuzzLOLOL2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that 9:1 prolly needed 38 - 40 degrees of total timing...
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
There's not another factory engine with a better racing history than the fe. The small block Buick in all it's variations comes close but you can't beat the fe. Thanks guys love the classic stuff.
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 he ran a lot of ford stuff didn't he?
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 actually he did.
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 are you trying to say they didn't mass-produce Fe's? I think you may be a bit confused there. They were also much more popular in every form of racing than the 335 series ever was.
@user-cs1ne8gx9u2 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 oh I get it, just a typical Chevy guy. Sad
@markj.6276Күн бұрын
We had a 1968 mercury monterey with a 390 that was our grandpa's.
@speedwayaudio32 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a dyno run; I get this big smile on my face.
@speedwayaudio32 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I wasn't laughing at the build just seeing engines work and dyno runs makes me smile.
@GorillaCookies2 жыл бұрын
I've.built everything from a 352 to a 428 as far as FE engines go. The best intake I ever used on a street FE is the classic Edelbrock Streetmaster. Although it's a single plane it doesn't penalize low rpm torque to make high rpm HP.
@ranchhandrandy32132 жыл бұрын
I want to build a fox body with one of these 390s one day when I'm all growed up.
@scottypetty9117 Жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to build one myself ...think it would make a good street strip car..
@chrisschaefer5889Ай бұрын
My only concern: are there aftermarket headers? My uncle owned a 68 Cougar XR7-G in the 80's. It had a 390 with cat on the valve head covers. It had only cast iron exhaust manifolds. The 390 is a great engine.
@aptorres012 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@byler3902 жыл бұрын
Perfect build for a Galaxie/Fairlane/Mustang or even a Factory Five Cobra kit. Thanks Powernation
@wizardjon832 ай бұрын
Why don't you guys build engines with stock heads and things . Stock cams . Maybe 9.5 or 10 to 1 compression and see what people that don't have 1200 bucks for heads and more for other special mods can make some good power with ?
@robertleffler1615Ай бұрын
Great to see an FE build!!! I'm in middle Tennessee and have a 1966 F100 that needs FE motor rebuilt... Any suggestions on where to take in the south/southeast?
@kskip42422 жыл бұрын
Im thinking an early 80's foxbody t-bird would really like this engine..
@godsowndrunk11182 жыл бұрын
The 410 Mercury piston was used in 390 truck engines to lower compression to around 7.5 ..... horse power makes heat.
@tomcoppa22112 жыл бұрын
Would of been nice to advance timing to 38° thats where FE with aluminum heads like to be
@Pedrofitbulls2 жыл бұрын
Really best heads 😳
@theguy92342 жыл бұрын
Put a 428 crank in a 390. 410ci.
@leifhietala80742 жыл бұрын
Note for folks working on Japanese trucks and trying to save a buck: @5:14 you see the guys spraying Dupli-Color Old Ford Engine Blue on the block and you might think it's a perfect match for Toyota 8A1 Medium Blue from the 1980s - it is soooo close I can barely tell the difference even in good light - but the paint does not stand up to UV. It might be cheaper than a proper paint job, but it isn't a durable substitute.
@chrishaan57662 жыл бұрын
Every GM,Ford and Chrysler factory engine assembly manual I used in the 60’s-70’s used the term “Foot pounds” for torque values When did the industry begin using pound feet? I also hear people in these KZbin videos using the metric equivalent 6.4 liter when referring to a 1966 el camino equipped with a 396 cu in engine America has never adopted the metric system So why the change Are the liberals into performance engines now 🤣😂😅
@Turte_Performance_Balancing Жыл бұрын
I am a FE Guy, we build up to 10FE Shortblocks for Customers every year. I wonder why KB doenst build the piston without that dish.... giving a good compression..or stay with a real dish...but that step dome kills compression..sadly they never answered..btw..I have a video on ym channel got KB Pistons with bended piston pins..ever got an answer for that problem
@Selkirk692 жыл бұрын
Shit numbers. A 401 AMC with the same cam, heads, rpm manifold, headers and 9.5 to 1 would make 480-490 . Those heads would support 540 horses, the cam at least 500. Something went wrong somewhere.
@GeneralEOD Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for 600 Hp and 675 Torque; naturally aspirated using electric fuel injection. Of course forged crank, pistons, and rods must be used.
@davidkeeton67162 жыл бұрын
We all want to know how long you had those cylinder heads. Those heads have been made out of pure unobtainium since June of 2021. Edelbrock still can't provide any as of June 29 2022. Or intakes, or 750 cfm Performer carbs.
@deeremeyer17492 жыл бұрын
Laugh my ass of at Ford "big-block" chamber volumes. 72 CC. Like a 350 Chevy "truck motor". Which is why any Ford "big-block" NA build "mild to wild" is doing good to make 500 "gross horsepower" with zero engine-driven accessories and the ubiquitous "long tubes" that will fit in ZERO "factory" Ford vehicles.
@jocrp62 жыл бұрын
I read where FE stands for (Ford Engine) I hope Pat breaks out that tape measure to make sure that bore is round! He degree's cam's with it to!
@oregonfordguy98122 жыл бұрын
fe actually stands for ford edsel
@ArtyUNVme22 жыл бұрын
FE and FT motors are junk that dont put out any real power. Might as well get a MEL. Also the parts for FEs are way overpriced. The SOHC 427 were okay. Just false advertising as they were grossly power over rated.
@charliejones7574 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have picked a better series, that truck block is TOUGH....what did they designate those 385?
@GarrettMixing1 Жыл бұрын
402hp 🤔 411hp😐 413hp445tq is respectable if its 9:1comp and 87 octane. Should be absolutely reliable!
@pauljanssen75942 жыл бұрын
By the way folks E3 plugs are junk good for the first 10,000 miles but hey put some good plugs in they make great plugs now some engines because the cylinder design specially four valve design work really great on the Bosch platinum. four
@fusnowtiger2 жыл бұрын
Oh, hi there again Mike
@robertvelasco56812 жыл бұрын
With the camshaft being heavy why didn't you install it firstbefor you install the crankshaft so you could reach your hands down and support in so you don't damage the cam bearings???????
@snoxracrАй бұрын
getting ready to start building a 64 galaxie with this motor, sounds like this is right about what I was thinking... nice job guys
@Turbo4Joe363 Жыл бұрын
How come only 9.25:1 CR? With good aluminum heads and 93 octane pump gas you can run 10.75:1 CR.
@timstill152 Жыл бұрын
I must say I'm kind of surprised that the only thing holding the connecting rods to the crankshaft are a couple of nuts. With all the vibration, heat and lubrication I imagine they must be susceptible to loosening themselves. But then again, I just don't understand.
@lifeonadime47032 жыл бұрын
I hate Fe engines. They are expensive for parts and in my area, hard to find them. I'm taking the 360 out of our 68 bump side and it's getting a 302 or 351.
@prospector5572 Жыл бұрын
FE 390, THE BOAT ANCHOR MOTOR. 390's WERE ALWAYS SMOKED BY GM BIG BLOCKS AND MOPARS. EVEN GM SMSLL BLOCKS AND MOPAR SMALL BLOCKS ALWAYS TOAST THIS FE ENGINE.
@jeepsrt96446 ай бұрын
Say all you want about them, got a 69 ford galaxie xl with a 390fe stroked to 445 fully built making 750 to the crank, chopped everything from vl turbos to holden maloos
@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын
They's thirsty beasties, my buddy got a 65 pickup with one in it ,and back in 1991 as a couple of snotnosed kids we burned 175$ worth of gas in it in a week and didn't even leave the county.
@borland_outlaw Жыл бұрын
Greetings! Can I ask you a question regarding a 1969 Ford Mustang with a 390 engine? We are repairing such an engine and cannot find the dimensions of the crankshaft and piston liners.
@shanebogenreif27892 жыл бұрын
E3 spark plugs? I put one in my lawnmower and it wouldn't get spark and it took 3 punks to start my mower so I put the old sparkplug back in and it fired right up.. E3 sparkplug are junk...