I am building up a new engine for my 69 Mustang S-code. I recall watching this video a year back. I started by taking in the bare block to the local speed shop to have the block cleaned, magnafluxed and inspected. I knew the engine had come out of a 66 T-Bird and had never been rebuilt, it had factory bores still. Now we're in the process of securing all the parts to build it into a 445 FE. Only the block, main caps, and front timing cover are going to be original, the rest will be all new.
@edwardmyers17463 жыл бұрын
That ARP cabinet is probably worth more then both my cars.....
@menom73 жыл бұрын
Probably??? Lol. I'd venture to say your 100% correct on that one Edward!!! ;-)
@Cheezeball999993 жыл бұрын
No joke. I kind of want one 🤣 Though if it's anything like Fastenal at work, they bring you the cabinet for free (or a small fee) and check up once in a while to charge for what you've used. So it's not an all up-front thing. I hope.
@elboxoluncho3 жыл бұрын
Probably worth more than all my cars. Haha
@2006gtobob3 жыл бұрын
The bolts and nuts are worth more than my cars.
@edwardmyers17463 жыл бұрын
@@Cheezeball99999 id love one 🤣 every oem fastern would be gone in my engine bay, nothing but arp if I could. Just for the stainless bolts
@jooch_exe3 жыл бұрын
"A real diamond in the rough" "During inspection, we found several cracks in the block" LOL
@RIPPERTON3 жыл бұрын
huge waste of SeaFoam
@9Apilot3 жыл бұрын
I would have been more impressed if they had repaired the block.
@paulbrancato82623 жыл бұрын
@@Andy-lu4nd The valley cover and timing chain cover? Maybe.
@megsmith5963 жыл бұрын
@@9Apilot You have to watch Cuban TV they would have repaired it.
@9Apilot3 жыл бұрын
@@megsmith596 I thought they just used a Russian tractor engine instead.
@davidfultz35943 жыл бұрын
At the beginning the engine was said to come out of a dump truck. If I'm not mistaken, that would be an FT. Those had steel cranks and they probably tossed it. Also the blocks were beefier, had more meat around the cylinders.
@dustinshadle732 Жыл бұрын
They would have had a "391", but I love pulling those out and turning the crank to fit high rpm engines. Once in a while I'll find a truck or bus worth saving, like a 4x4 bus in Wyoming. Those cranks aren't just steel, but forged steel
@godsowndrunk1118 Жыл бұрын
@@dustinshadle732Could be 361, couldn't it?
@jameskohler7724 Жыл бұрын
That is the best cheapest way to get a 427 forged crank. Take a 391FT crank and turn the shaft down
@mikef.10002 жыл бұрын
"Just a good engine!" Doesn't get any better than that, well done guys!
@ihateurmom3 жыл бұрын
The theme of this show: "We're going to take a junkyard engine, start it up once, and then replace every single part including the block."
@Sherman623 жыл бұрын
Pay attention. This is how you get a new engine past the wife. "Did you buy a whole new engine"? "Nah baby, just a few parts".
@johnawesome31913 жыл бұрын
It definitely teaches you the truth about what could happen with a junkyard engine. I’m glad they showed how they found those cracks
@Cheezn4urdreams3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO..
@davidhill8503 жыл бұрын
@@Sherman62 Its also well established in my house that all the parts come from Ebay, and everything on Ebay is $20
@SAVikingSA3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhill850 I run nitro R/C cars and it's the same but Amazon. I rebuilt a Traxxas Slash with anodized everything and every part was from Amazon and they all cost $20. R/C parts are even more believable at that price even though the cost against weight of what you're getting is even worse than car parts.
@adamstampley72073 жыл бұрын
This is classic engine building.😂 "We started with a junkyard engine and before you knew it, we're $20k deep in a full custom."😂😂
@Rad_Triumph_765_RS3 жыл бұрын
Great noise and easy to start no matter the weather or temperature. What a great motor for a daily driver.
@craigengelman45343 жыл бұрын
to bad theres over 10k in parts and machine work
@falconater683 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Sweet brag bro...A more accurate comparison would be a built 409 wouldn't it? Hey I bet topfuel cars sound pretty good too.
@spar83343 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 you not tryna pull up on my stock 302 with the new plugs and fuel filter
@spar83343 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 it not a coyote and you need tires for traction. Not me tho i spin and win
@BuddWolf2 жыл бұрын
I had a 390 in my 71’ F-250 4wd. I stayed calm by putting headers, an Edelbrock intake and a 750 Holley dbl pumper. Couldn’t tell you how much power it made, but the upgrades really woke up that old motor. Thanks👍🏼 for sharing the video post. Best of luck 🍀to both of you guys 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@elm76663 жыл бұрын
I am building a 428 'C' scratch for my 76' Highboy and almost have everything needed to start reassembly, including 1963 427 cast iron headers. Thanks for showing some blue oval power.
@codysmtih86223 жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet, I'm rebuilding my 390 for my 76, and have had all the parts and blocked machined for the last 4 years and am just now putting my valve train on today
@jasonpoore73613 жыл бұрын
I just built my 390 and C6 for my 1975 f100 4x4. Absolutely in LOVE with my truck.
@buckykattguitar3 жыл бұрын
Those 427 manifolds are a pretty rare piece! It took me months to find an original set with no cracks
@elm76663 жыл бұрын
@@buckykattguitar They are not cheap either! 38 lbs each but well built.
@mikesharp8200Ай бұрын
Best pickup you will ever own
@karljay74733 жыл бұрын
Love the interest in the old FE block, I've built a few of them years ago. Impressive numbers from old iron and new tech. One SUPER cool thing about the FE is that you can mix and match things. The 360 becomes a 410 with a crank swap. Swap the intake and add headers and you've changed the engine for cheap.
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
Hey Karl, Bill Ballinger I am still enthusiastic about the interest in the FE too. I still love them too. I do wish someone would make 351C heads and intake to fit them. That would be really cool! I have thought about how nice it would be. A445 cross bolt 2 and 4 main, put studs in and new dowels. It would be neat to half fill it and then the 4V closed chamber heads at 4.63 bore spacing and a big burly intake in a 67-70 Mustang!
@karljay7473 Жыл бұрын
@@Bbbbad724 That name sounds familiar, were you a part of the old FE Forums back about 20 years ago? I was pretty active back then when I was building my truck FE.
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
@@karljay7473 The one and only. I m banned from them now for thinking that someone should make a 351C head at 4.63 bore spacing because it was the best head Ford ever made and I guess it pissed off all the guys hoarding CJ LR/MR/HR/TP heads. I just thought and even wrote a letter to Vic Edelbrock and Suggested that he should step up the FE with Cleveland at 4.63 and an intake way back before the Edelbrock heads came out. I guess he made the right choice, they are still their best sellers. I still wish he had taken my advice. The FE is a great design and it still makes great power from it’s design. The Cleveland head is the best OEM design. I really wished the two had been mixed. I fill blocks if I plan on 750 + using studs and crossbolted mains from Pro-Gram on 2 -4 with the stock thrust main. I have 3 that are still running on the street at 700 hp that I built 20 years ago. The FE heads are pretty good with the right work. But the Cleveland because of the cant and tilt are bolt them on and go if they had 4.63 bore spacing. Good to talk to you Karl! I hope your 410 truck is still going well!
@aguyinnc28653 жыл бұрын
Love this video, great to see modern tech on a FE engine. Would love to see more Ford engine builds!
@Bbbbad7242 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you had a thick 4.16 bore? 462 ci and weighs less than a Windsor. More tq and hp.
@aguyinnc28652 жыл бұрын
@@Bbbbad724 as long as it's a Ford engine I'm good with it.
@DistractedChaos3 жыл бұрын
These guys really taught me a lot and got me working on my old baby 1976 dodge 318 with all new cam, lifters, pushrods, aluminum intake, 600cfm 4 barrel
@noduh7363 жыл бұрын
I like Pat's face he makes when hes flooring the throttle lol
@csmall7883 жыл бұрын
I’m staring at my grandpa’s 352 FE out of his 66 F100. It will be my first engine build. I’m dying to get his truck back on the road. This gives me inspiration. I’m certainly not going to go this wild, I’m just hoping to make 300hp, but this gets my mind racing.
@craigengelman45343 жыл бұрын
352 is a odd ball motor and for the cost to make 300 your better of to go to a 351w there cheap at the scrap yard make shure to get a rollor motor that way you dont have to pay for the upgrade
@Jsf4453 жыл бұрын
@@craigengelman4534 then you have to change motor mounts, bell housing, accessory drives. What a pain if all you want is 300 hp. That 352 will do that just fine, and last forever doing it.
@chancezimmerman13903 жыл бұрын
Just some pointers on doing the 352 Most parts on the 352 are the same as the 390. Such as timing components. The 352 has the same block as the 390 so if you wanted to you could bore your 352 to a 390. If you are looking to get an easier shot at getting over 300 hp. It really would not be that much more to bore a 352 to a 390. If you are getting the cylinders honed by a machine shop. Also some stock parts for the 352 are getting hard to find. Such as the harmonic balancer and main cap bolts. However you could get aftermarket ones pretty easy. By the way the guy that said the 351w is just jealous that he doesn't have a 351 cleveland 😃
@trythinking66763 жыл бұрын
Ought to find a 360 FE. Bulletproof if built right.
@csmall7883 жыл бұрын
@@trythinking6676 I actually just bought one to put in there while I take my time working on the old motor. It came out of a 74 F100, so I was able to drive it before it got pulled out to test it. It’s nothing special but it does have a comp 268 H cam, performer intake and 1406 Edelbrock carb. It sounds good, at least. Still working on the details to get it fully installed once this zero degree weather passes.
@lesterscrugs22723 жыл бұрын
The combustion chamber is heart-shaped? Well I don't know if my lady will like these for Valentine's Day but I guess I know what I'm buying her
@j.b.98953 жыл бұрын
How is this restoring a junkyard find, “a diamond in the rough”, when you replace everything including the block? Seams to me your just relocated it to a different junkyard
@reviewaccount4693 жыл бұрын
But cleaner
@JohnDoe-pv2iu3 жыл бұрын
I think they were going to use the block but replaced it because they found cracks. The Real find was the oil splash pan under the intake. They sandblasted it and reused it. The only part that came from Ford... Mighta been cheaper to have found a splash pan on Ebay to build! 🤣🤣🤣 Yall Take Care and be safe, John
@Mike-xt2ot3 жыл бұрын
Like pulling a good radiator cap off a wasted car then driving under it a good car with a bad radiator cap and calling it restoring.
@JohnDoe-pv2iu3 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-xt2ot I've told people 'the car ain't bad, jack the battery up and pull a new car under it'! Oh well folks need viewers to bring content. That don't happen with a busted block... Oh well, it is what it is... Yall Take Care and be safe, John
@xaenon3 жыл бұрын
@ab0z Nice reference. I love it!
@Harleybobber2 жыл бұрын
Pat is knowledgeable. He has a flair of his own and he is awesome!
@JoeSolo8143 жыл бұрын
Would absolutely love to see you guys find an old 427 tunnel port, and do a nice solid build on it.
@robertyoung72843 ай бұрын
I bet they would to. Those are scarce as hens teeth
@hdvictoryford53293 жыл бұрын
Love that you guys are doing more and more Ford engines. We watch every one, usually a couple of times. It is always nice to know what a set up will give you in hp and trq. Keep them coming.
@oldmusher3 жыл бұрын
I love when people who won't spend 20 minutes setting up a Holley Carb take all week, two laptops and a chassis dyno to get fuel injection to work and then say the buzzwords "drivability" and "Throttle response", tossing in an "easy to tune." Sorry, I like the extra power of a carburetor. I get GREAT throttle response. I don't want to give up cam to have enough vacuum to make the EFI work, (also do stick shifts for the same reason), I can set up a properly sized carb in MINUTES with my little box of jets, power valves, and accelerator pump cams, and beat EFI on the dyno.
@oldmusher3 жыл бұрын
4 more horsepower. Now...honestly compare COST. Pretty sure I could add an extra carb, too...and go over 600.
@stanmack13 жыл бұрын
17:15 is that a loose damper bolt? i saw the washer move.
@Hawki-3023 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Hammerback03 жыл бұрын
Good eye. I went back and watched it and it does move quiet a bit
@wuznar3 жыл бұрын
I love the addition of the FiTech fuel injection! I know they cost more than carbs but other than cost, everything else is an advantage over carbs. Well done!!!!
@WaybackTECH3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this show since it was Hot Rod TV with chuck and joe and the whole PowerBlock thing with the delicious Courtney Hansen hosting.
@stevewheat90303 жыл бұрын
Yes, bring back Courtney 👸
@charlespayne19093 жыл бұрын
I ve been watching this since 2004
@K-Effect3 жыл бұрын
She doesn't need to talk, she just needs to look busy
@Charlie_Prinz3 жыл бұрын
FEs are great! Awesome Episode !
@ForYeshua13 жыл бұрын
So with this dual quad setup, it lost 2HP and 5TQ...
@danielhultenius55063 жыл бұрын
And alot of money
@TheLionAndTheLamb7773 жыл бұрын
Dual Quad almost always only gains attention at the car shows.
@777RocketS3 жыл бұрын
Well thanks for saving me half a video! 🤣 But could you too off the dual setup with a blower?
@RNA0ROGER3 жыл бұрын
Better spark control linked with efi would help
@davidbell70913 жыл бұрын
I remember when pro stockers went efi and greg anderson didn't want to, for a good reason..
@meanmark87563 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I wish I could have you guys turn my 390 into that for my ‘65 TBird!
@sorryociffer3 жыл бұрын
LOVE seeing the lesser seen/known engines built up...built a 352 next!
@lorenzomaximo18183 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember where I saw it but I saw someone do it 352 Stroker build up Attained 595 hp. That’s good for 352 stroker motor. FEs are no joke.
@sorryociffer3 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzomaximo1818 That’s awesome. Love seeing the oddball engines, regardless of brand...
@lawrencemick1665 Жыл бұрын
This is a 352 block
@brettspaulding58553 жыл бұрын
CMD number three is the best assembly lubricant I have ever used. I'm glad to see you guys using it. I have found that I get significantly better torque readings and it sticks better than other assembly lubricants.
@yam96353 жыл бұрын
This and donut media give me the right dose of entertainment and info. Other content auto and non auto alike just seem too overdone and ingenuine. These 2 channels just pump out that content you want. Glad to have caught them both at their peak.
@BobbyOfEarth3 жыл бұрын
Man that's one sweet running old school Ford engine. Interesting factoid.. @3:00 Pat didn't mention that the other block he's using is a Ford High Performance 352 FE block. These Hi-Po 352 engines made 360 hp @6000 rpm from the factory w/4.050" bore and 3.500" stroke ..accounting for the high rpm.
@mikeraftis63323 жыл бұрын
4.05 x 3.5 = 360 cu in
@spudsmarauder3 жыл бұрын
Oh heck should have left that cool cast aluminum timing cover raw.
@1957kwick3 жыл бұрын
Nothing compares to an FEI love the way these motors sound. opposed to the new late-model engines they have a very distinct sound.
@king0cans3 жыл бұрын
I need a ARP cabinet
@johnparrish92153 жыл бұрын
That has got to be expensive.
@king0cans3 жыл бұрын
@@johnparrish9215 For them it was free. ARP could hook a brother up.
@Nikdabruh3 жыл бұрын
2500$ On summit
@sdscott423 жыл бұрын
Love the show. I have been watching the FE series intently since I am building one for my Tbird. What is the metric for drivability? Dyno data seems based on WOT, I would like to see all your projects put in a car and road tested. Keep up the good content!
@hotwort3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing and FE build, my all time favorite engines!
@carltrano13253 жыл бұрын
I love love love 390 fe power 👍
@randysrestoration3 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I installed the dual quad FiTech on my 482 FE. Early version think max was 600 hp. It fired instantly but the more I drove it the worse it got. Flat out would not idle. At a Goodguys show FiTech tech tried to tune it. In the end I had wasted 5k trying to make it work. I had a NOS tunnel wedge. Finally threw it all in trash. Total junk, appears they made changes now. It ran fantastic with a pair of Holley carbs. My first and last experience with FiTech.
@toado6963 жыл бұрын
Hey TimeWarp, I remember yours problems a long time back from the forum.
@randysrestoration3 жыл бұрын
@@toado696 Things may have changed with fitech now but back then it was suckers like myself who had huge financial loss because of it! But I suppose if they send out a free unit people might tend to overlook what they really were. Garbage . .
@jamieschinkai12673 жыл бұрын
I’ve had similar experiences with fitech. The phone techs were friendly but we never got that truck running like it should. This was a 5.3 in a obs Chevy with the fitech ecu and harness.
@briang44703 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine bought the base 300hp rated single 4 barrel FItech system when they first came out to put on his 302 ford. When we first put it on it was awesome, it started easy and ran great. But after about 1 month of use, the computer would loose memory and he would have to re write the whole tune or just pick one of the pre selected setting and just deal with it running crappy. It eventually got to the point where if he drove to the store, got out and came back 5 minutes later the whole tune would be gone and sometimes going down the road it would just shut off and loose memory or it would do weird things like idle at 2,000 rpm or idle at 500rpm, it was getting out of hand and since then I have had a grudge against FItech and I have read about many others dealing with the same problem, for all the time and money wasted on the FItech he could have just bought a brand new 650 double pumper and a jet kit and been done with it.
@jeredhayden13923 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue with my fitech. ran great for a couple years then one issue after another. Called fitech for tech support and they were basically useless.
@blkmustang0073 жыл бұрын
Congrats on OVER 850k subs guys !!!! GREAT content !!! Im building a Ford 460 nitrous addict engine right now...shooting for 500whp in a 95 mustang gt 5 speed
@RegulerShowTV2 жыл бұрын
shouldn’t be too hard with a 460 lol, how did it go?
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
Should just build the 460 to 552 c.i. skip the nitrous. 900hp easy sith good heads and intake
@yam96353 жыл бұрын
Mixing old engines with modern telemetry is just magic.
@kaybell17243 жыл бұрын
Great combo! I would like to see it on a 460 with around 500 inches with D20E-AB PI heads.
@titanary682 жыл бұрын
I’m building a 445FE stroker and I would love to see you guys fabricate a sheet metal intake for EFI and set it up to run a ProCharger.
@sorryociffer3 жыл бұрын
Digging that FITECH system! I know nothing about tuning and the easy set up and self-learning is freaking sweet!
@Bdady743 жыл бұрын
Great video, great motor and, you guys compliment each other well as presenters. Awesome episode thanks for posting!
@jesusisalive32273 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you were going to paint that FE gold. They look really classy in gold.
@rhostatton89443 жыл бұрын
long live the Ford FE engine & Power Nation!!
@michaeldinkens50832 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, I’m in love with what you did to this 390 FE engine. I had a 390 FE built to original specs but now want more horsepower and look for my 64 Tbird Convertible. Can you refer me to an engine builder in Michigan that is just as capable as the two of you? And what could would I expect to be the cost for parts, paint, and labor? Your reply and expertise are greatly appreciated. Mr. Mike.
@scraech3 жыл бұрын
@ 17:18 you can see there is a loose bolt and washer spinning on the crank balancer.
@johnnymcquinn60252 жыл бұрын
Great show, glad you are doing engine's like the Ford FE series. But can't help thinking the price to HP output. You used top shelf parts, even fuel injection didn't seem to add as much as I thought it would. Sure it's easier, don't have to mess with it...but wasn't that the pride and fun? Yep, first time, old, enjoyed your show!
@williamcharles94803 жыл бұрын
That Ford FE design engine is a LeMans winner back in the late 1960s, you can't deny the design's durability and power capability.
@edwardkennedy20313 жыл бұрын
Where's Mike?
@Jimmysidecarr3 жыл бұрын
On a street engine like this, how about some dyno pulls from down around 2500 to 3000? I would love to see how low this engine still makes at least 500 ft/lbs of torque. Stop light to stop light, generous torque makes a performance vehicle that much more fun to drive. Great video! Great series! I used to be a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury parts guy from 1970 to 2009, so I grew up around and loved the FE Ford Big blocks.
@Skyhawks19793 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Torque for street fun!
@dermharse96143 жыл бұрын
So you guys scraped the Junkyard block and put new heads, crank, oil pump, cam, lifters, rods and pistons? What part is left from the "Junkyard" , the timing chain cover?
@timdixon92242 жыл бұрын
I don't remember what cam they ran but it made good broad power.
@ardennielsen37613 жыл бұрын
it is normal to put a bolt in the water jacket, without it... when the farmer fills it up with lagoon water, the zinc oxidizes into a powder saving the block and also plugging any small leaks.
@Jsf4453 жыл бұрын
So now how about a single fiTech throttle body on the single carb manifold. For all the added parts and expense, the dual setup didn’t seem worth the minimal gain. Am I crazy? Would a cam better suited to a dual quad intake make bigger gains?
@P71ScrewHead3 жыл бұрын
the dual gives waay more torque than a single ever would..
@palanthis3 жыл бұрын
We found a junkyard engine and then rebuilt it. We used a new block, crank, pistons, rings, connecting rods, oil pan, windage tray, oil pump, pickup, camshaft, pushrods, lifters, valves, springs, heads, gaskets, timing set, intake manifold. distributor, cables, plugs, studs, and bolts. Viola! Completely "restored".
@michaelreardon76672 жыл бұрын
Really cool build, love those FE's
@kevindurham47182 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the damper bolt is loose when they fired it up with the efi? You can see the washer walk back and forth
@paulplack4903 жыл бұрын
That dual-quad EFI setup looks to be about a $3.5k package. I'd hope for more than a 4 HP gain. Hopefully it will do some more self-learning. Cool to see a 352 FE block taken out to that displacement!
@Skyhawks19793 жыл бұрын
I believe all 352/360/390/406 and 428 blocks had "352" stamped into the casting.
@rethrojeacher84643 жыл бұрын
I have a 445 going in my 55 Fairlane in a few weeks, I'm pretty stoked.
@fenatic74842 жыл бұрын
The FE is a labor of love,a strong power j
@TheBeardedMiracle3 жыл бұрын
@17:18 the balancer bolt is loose
@randysrestoration3 жыл бұрын
Cool build though! TFS seems to be at top of food chain for FE heads at the moment. How about swapping a set of Jay Browns FE heads on next? That would be a interesting swap.
@1mikewalsh3 жыл бұрын
For removing aluminum intakes use hmdi plastic wedges and hammer...
@rickdemorgan89513 жыл бұрын
I have a 416 fe with iron heads that made 581hp at 6700, 540 to at 5100 , assembled by Somer's Racing, single 4v police intake. :))
@carsontaylor75303 жыл бұрын
Love it im rebuilding a 390 fe for my 76 ford stepside so this was neat.
@43mackmobile3 жыл бұрын
Every engine I've ever rebuilt I would stand them on their back and drive the cam bearings in and install the cam the same way which helps eliminate scaring the cam bearings and gives your wrists a break.
@davidhughes47282 жыл бұрын
I love the way you built any engine badass
@eb9723 жыл бұрын
We run 5.90’s on a single Fitech 1200. Turbo and e85. Just ordered an IRD carb.
@m.geisel3 жыл бұрын
What did you guys do with Mike?
@charlespayne19093 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Where is he? . The good always die young .
@shauncummings86063 жыл бұрын
Where's Mike Galley gone ?.
@micowikstrom71822 жыл бұрын
One or two EFI's - the same power but only double the cost. That's called a 200% success!
@pauledmonds32493 жыл бұрын
Do you have a pen I can borrow Pat?
@charlespayne19093 жыл бұрын
He must have a season pass at office depot.
@chrisbaker29033 жыл бұрын
To which he replies "Not only no but Hell no and for asking you have to give me at least 2 of your pens."
@nasty31453 жыл бұрын
I wonder what some 200cc heads would do for that large of an engine and cam. Verse the small 175s
@413x3983 жыл бұрын
You cannot equate cc values with Chevy or other Ford. See that the FE intake manifold creates a shorter head port., so the cc's will be less. TFS heads are about on the top of the list.
@nasty31453 жыл бұрын
@@413x398 i 100% hear what youre saying but by how fast it died off at 5800-6000k that tells me the head regardless of length was small. Thst thing shoulda pulled to 6300-6500 with that size of cam. Atleast thats how i feel. But i see your point. Just think it would of made a 500rpm difference
@413x3983 жыл бұрын
@@nasty3145 Well, lots of variables involved. We know TFS's need the rocker shaft stands milled x amount to get proper geometry, something Trick Flow has yet to address. Doubtful these guys did that. What we don't know is whether correct spec valve springs were used in this build, what with .670" lift and heavy lifters. I can see float causing a rapid drop faster than port size. Lots of dyno runs available with those heads.
@GIMPY19773 жыл бұрын
@@nasty3145 the cam choice was making it fall off
@theerinnaidu45903 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. Keep it up
@spacecase703 жыл бұрын
What happened to Mike Galley?
@harveylong58783 жыл бұрын
mike left EP/PN
@Dld1985 Жыл бұрын
We drag race the Ford FE way back in the early 70’s. No one made any aftermarket stuff back then. You could get a aluminum intake but it wasn’t a better design that the cast iron it was just a lot lighter. We ran a 447 CI which was the standard 427 4.230 bore with a 428 crank which was 3.98. TRW made the pistons so it was a budget way to gain some cubic inches. Comp solid roller. Single Holley 850 with stock Ford Tunnel Port heads. It probably made about the same power as this combo. I would love to had the aftermarket pieces you guys had here to see what kind of power. With a standard bore 427 with the 4 1/4” stroke crank you guys used here it would be a 478 CI.
@007galaxie3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys, thanks for sharing. I have a 67 Galaxie 500 Convertible that I'm starting to restore. I think I know which motor I want now :)
@helvetesfonster9003 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I went with efi on my 460. I already had stock efi but I went with Holley terminator x MPFI on my stock MPFI intake and mild ported f3s (92-96 fuelie heads) and I couldn't be happier. Even though I had to sacrifice some performance to use the MPFI intake and heads it was the best way to go. Nothing wrong with a carb but damn the tuneability of the efi is so much better.
@helvetesfonster9003 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Good for you, mine is in my old truck. That is Apple's to oranges.
@helvetesfonster9003 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Cool.
@Zach-ju5vi3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a carbs on an older engine but efi tuning is really nice.
@helvetesfonster9003 жыл бұрын
@@Zach-ju5vi so far my F350 is the only thing I put aftermarket EFI on, usually I would put a carburetor on it. However a while ago the Holley Terminator Had caught my eye and nobody really builds fuelie Ford's so I figured I would give it a go. Everything else has been either stock modified EFI or a carburetor
@Zach-ju5vi3 жыл бұрын
@@helvetesfonster900 is it any better on fuel after tuning? I would love to see one with a turbo, it might help the fuel economy under load and add some hp.
@lawrencemick16652 жыл бұрын
Question. I seen on the replacement block in pretty big numbers stamped 352 ,made me wonder if the replacement block was actually a 352 instead of a 390. Does anyone know? Just curious.
@TheRoguelement3 жыл бұрын
Mr Topolinski even though is clearly a pretty good engine numbers man and a engine specs guru he is still after all a technogeek with over full chest pockets pocket protector and note pad and 50 writing implements plus his glasses ..Wow Pat your our hero.
@petercermak4095 Жыл бұрын
I have installed a FiTech 38351 system on my Blueprint 427sb engine as the 1987 OBD1 couldn't be used anymore. I have been very happy with it and I wanted to see how much the FiTech system would add over the Blueprint carburetor system used for the base HP numbers from their factory. I was hoping that the fuel injection system would add more. This vid gives me an idea of how much more I can expect. Thanks guys.
@elainestamper38733 жыл бұрын
Awesome Fe ! Always loved the 390 Ford had one in my 1967 Galaxie 500. Was a strong running car! 390 Ford should be Ford blue! Love your show ! More Fords please!
@Mike-xt2ot3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it when you see a Ford guy get so excited about 400 or 500 horsepower.
@clevelandmaker3863 жыл бұрын
they could have painted that block blue!
@jasonpoore73613 жыл бұрын
I painted my 390 old school ford blue. Lol
@ranger-3.0V63 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from a couple of Chebby guys?
@briansearles44733 жыл бұрын
I thought it looked good with the black paint, nice valve covers too. I have seen several early 60's FE's where the block was black and the valve covers were painted flat gold.
@BrandonCorby-wr5nd3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just watch this now to watch Pat lay silicone beads.
@GIGABACHI3 жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@samdavis29562 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the horse power/torque comparison between 2 carbs vs 2 F.I. units.
@terrybaptist7953 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see them crack the magical 600 horsepower number with this engine.
@PolishJoe10003 жыл бұрын
Pat, please give us a tour of all of the tools you carry on your person.
@chloehennessey68133 жыл бұрын
Who the eff is that? Where’s mike!
@martingatavaski13513 жыл бұрын
Just said same thing!
@charlespayne19093 жыл бұрын
Mike tell them to let you out of that abandoned dyno room
@Cobra428SCJ Жыл бұрын
The hydraulic roller cam they picked (254/262 with .670 lift) is a popular BBC drag cam. Its advertised duration is 298/316. The three top solid lifter cams from Ford were: C3AZ-6250-AA 306/306 , .500" lift @ valve, 78° overlap C4AE-B 324/324, .500" lift @ valve, 112° overlap C8AX-D 330/330, .600" lift @ valve, 116° overlap 273 deg @ 0.050"
@RyanMcIntyre3 жыл бұрын
Question for Pat and other machinists, I understand the torque plate when boring and honing, has anyone taken that philosophy a step further and gotten all the parts up to an operating temp to final machine? We adjust valves cold and hot, and hot is preferred for accuracy under normal conditions, would the same hold true for all other clearances too: piston wall, piston rings, head surface, crank and rod bearings, etc? I know how tedious that would be, but would there be an advantage? Would you be willing to try for science?
@alexanderleslie42262 жыл бұрын
That's how they build F1 engines.
@zdfnhxfgjnhxfgnj3 жыл бұрын
right stuff is like if you mixed JB weld in your rtv. Works fine until its time to take it apart.
@Survival427FE3 жыл бұрын
Use Motorcraft TA-31 silicone - better stuff
3 жыл бұрын
BEST SHOW "EVER"! thank u for all da amazing content you guys bring. 👌🏾💯
@Thelongmanable3 жыл бұрын
*_The ok symbol you put on the end of your post "ACCORDING TO THE FBI" is a white supremacy symbol.. As a white guy I was corrected on this and thought you needed to know lol 😆..._*
@Thelongmanable3 жыл бұрын
@ *_We can't have nothing in this world because it's all politically incorrect..._*
@matthewcritchfield69973 жыл бұрын
Where has Mike gone? Think it’s pretty crappy that someone’s on the show for that long and it’s such a good guy and just disappears without a word
@rlikemoney3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering where mike was at too. Hopefully hes alright
@Carlos.Rivera3 жыл бұрын
May ask why people ask about Mike?
@matthewcritchfield69973 жыл бұрын
@@Carlos.Rivera Mike was a great guy that was part of the horsepower show for probably near 10 years and all of a sudden now he’s just gone with no information
@michaelwhitehead44463 жыл бұрын
@@TimothySchulting LT was a crybaby no big loss there, but Mike was great. Hope he is doing well, where ever he may be.
@mcjohn52313 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? You said it was .030 over, correct? How are you coming up with the 445 cubic inches from a390?
@robbiematney66613 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking too. I made a 447 out of a 427 with a 428 crank
@flyin427ford3 жыл бұрын
LOL You missed the BIGGEST part of the build, 4.25 stroker crank.
@andydufresne36353 жыл бұрын
So....you basically found a junkyard 390, got it running cleaned it up and chucked it (and the heads). Found a new block, and some aluminum heads...
@torpedo353 жыл бұрын
Basically a new engine with a used block but nothing else. Boring and expensive.
@ibast13 жыл бұрын
Don't forget he new crank, pistons and rods, but other than that it's the same junkyard engine. Well push-rods, rockers, distributor and manifold too, but otherwise . . . .
@buckykattguitar3 жыл бұрын
A 352 block? (See the casting at 2:59) You'd have to bore that.050 oversized just to get to 390 spec. What's the finished bore size now?
@kellytaylor39153 жыл бұрын
I suggest an Isky 280 Super Mega cam for that FE Look at Isky catalog then retest. Happy Dyno times