Bar/Navratil v Tardio/Daescu at the Las Vegas Pickleball Cup

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Watch the Men's Doubles Championship match: (9) Gabriel Tardio/Andrei Daescu v (7) Dekel Bar/Zane Zavratil at the Las Vegas Pickleball Cup
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@linsu2854
@linsu2854 Ай бұрын
I have so much respect for Zane and Dekel and hope this new partnership continues to thrive: made it to the championship court the first time they partner, staying cool and smiling through the tagging and serve calls, smart plays, and exceptional pickleball skills and athleticism.
@wulymammoth
@wulymammoth Ай бұрын
Surprised it hadn’t happened sooner as they’re always at The Lab together on Zane’s channel and Jack Munro’s videos
@MikeJones-pg2sf
@MikeJones-pg2sf Ай бұрын
Tardio and Daescu my favorite team to watch. Their styles of play complement each other so well
@PickleballJoy
@PickleballJoy Ай бұрын
I suspect many people, new to pickleball are wondering, "Where'd this guy Zane come from?" Good to see him BACK in contention like this. Gabe really stepped up in the final two games; nice work! The ascendence of the Right Side looks to be a real thing. Very entertaining!
@lck2978
@lck2978 Ай бұрын
Win or lose, we need more players/athletes like Gabe Tardio. Calm, unshaken, in control of his emotions and attitude.
@WanderingNasi
@WanderingNasi Ай бұрын
We must have been watching a different person. He melted in game 3 and tried to finish game 4 by tagging zane
@lck2978
@lck2978 Ай бұрын
@@WanderingNasi Yeah, he's still human for sure. I just like how he doesn't roar/bark/chirp after (nearly) every point. Overall, he's quiet, calm and composed compared to most players.
@jeremymarble6172
@jeremymarble6172 Ай бұрын
This is the team of the year
@jinzhang3062
@jinzhang3062 Ай бұрын
Great game. ❤
@charlesmuller120
@charlesmuller120 Ай бұрын
Never seen so many body bags in a match! and then Tardio RIPS one at match point! Zane started it and proceeded to get tattoo payback. FUN FUN FUN! I love me some drama in a match!
@Yungdil
@Yungdil Ай бұрын
Don’t really make sense that an illegal serve is called as a redo in the serve.
@JflipJedi
@JflipJedi Ай бұрын
It’s not. The first call is called “questionable”. Basically just meaning the ref couldn’t tell if it was legal or not because it was so close. So the ball is reserved to hopefully get the player to serve in a way that isn’t so close to a fault. But when the ref actually called a fault, he overturned his own call. So none of his serves were actually illegal. Just really close.
@Basilisk2077
@Basilisk2077 Ай бұрын
Because it’s not illegal. Refs need to chill.
@frankdaeran352
@frankdaeran352 Ай бұрын
@@Basilisk2077 Yes, slow down 20:34 to 0.25 sec and you can see it's legal.
@Max-kj1xb
@Max-kj1xb Ай бұрын
All his serves look illegal to me, Top of paddle looks above or at best level with his wrist.
@JflipJedi
@JflipJedi Ай бұрын
@@Max-kj1xbthe ref thought the same thing! Up until he reviewed the footage and found that he was wrong. They are all very close but if you slow the video down, you can see that his paddle is indeed in the correct position. Barely! But still technically legal.
@isaacrodriguez386
@isaacrodriguez386 Ай бұрын
Also, no way they were #9 seed lol. Most consistent team the last few weeks
@Cacheola
@Cacheola Ай бұрын
Best team won. I think Zane started the body bagging, paid for it in the end, lol
@htekdev
@htekdev Ай бұрын
Zan was being played with with the speed up locations
@tylerwellman5783
@tylerwellman5783 Ай бұрын
Dekel's been on the verge of legality with his serves for a long time, glad to see the refs starting to call it on him. He's lucky it's just a reserve here. Tardio/Daescu are too on fire recently for it to matter though.
@Yungdil
@Yungdil Ай бұрын
Also love how Zane was bitching and moaning playing against Chuck Taylor with a gen 3 and now benefits from playing with Dekel with a gen 3
@carinakagawa7254
@carinakagawa7254 Ай бұрын
My favorite player to watch has always been Dekel. Although him & Zane has a great partnership, Zane wasn’t so in his element on this game & had many unforced errors.
@10SecLek
@10SecLek Ай бұрын
Zane, me and my younger brother are turn you into curry 🍛. Until then, I’ll keep watching your videos and learn from the master!
@waisanuy
@waisanuy Ай бұрын
It would be cool, no offense, to have a stream with no commentary. Thoughts?
@lightsout6552
@lightsout6552 Ай бұрын
Gabe serve is above his naval too
@chea7z913
@chea7z913 Ай бұрын
A lot of players have questionable serves, border line ridiculous serves. Dekel just happens to give the most ridiculous appearance of an illegal serve, even though technically it might be by the book. The problem is the sideways and over the top action when contacting through the ball. It just needs to be a bowling ball service motion
@lightsout6552
@lightsout6552 Ай бұрын
Zayne isnt allowed to do his throw serve but Barr is?
@maxcaldwell2680
@maxcaldwell2680 Ай бұрын
Full contact pickleball
@ramonmercado5005
@ramonmercado5005 Ай бұрын
Let’s play pickleball
@TaylorMerlin-c8e
@TaylorMerlin-c8e Ай бұрын
Asa Estates
@robinmartinez4209
@robinmartinez4209 Ай бұрын
Johns brothers didn’t join the tournament? Or crashed out?
@txasian20
@txasian20 Ай бұрын
They got beat out by Alshon & Newman.
@pminh7979
@pminh7979 Ай бұрын
need a higher video quality😊
@SPVTkid
@SPVTkid Ай бұрын
Moving Camera gave me motion sickness
@MontgomeryPeter-j6i
@MontgomeryPeter-j6i Ай бұрын
Beatty Unions
@ApostolAdventures
@ApostolAdventures Ай бұрын
The biggest question with Dekel Bar’s serve is that he needs to spend more time practicing on his dinking and hand speed at kitchen. a one trick pony he is at this point.
@PickleTechProductions
@PickleTechProductions Ай бұрын
The server’s arm must be moving in an upward arc when the ball is struck. Paddle contact with the ball must not be made above the waist level. The head of the paddle must not be above the highest part of the wrist at contact. Most of Dekel's serves are illegal, but refs aren't calling them that. The rules aren't enforced at all. I haven't watched Tyson in a while, but his serves were also illegal.
@Ovanite33
@Ovanite33 Ай бұрын
Dekel has a lot going on with his serve that can be called into question, but at the base of it all i have always been under the impression that you are not allowed to toss the ball up the way he does. Am I misunderstanding the rules?
@Cacheola
@Cacheola Ай бұрын
I didn't think you were allowed to toss the ball up in PPA. I was wondering how long he was going to get away with that serve, looks boderline illegal to me
@DevinJaksina
@DevinJaksina Ай бұрын
The rules don’t specify anything about NOT tossing up the ball, BUT there was a rule change a few years back about spinning the ball ( Ben johns and Zane navatril used to do that) so ya idk
@benvanderwielen4019
@benvanderwielen4019 Ай бұрын
At the beginning of this year PPA said no tossing the ball up but they went back on that rule you are now allowed to toss it up again
@Cacheola
@Cacheola Ай бұрын
@@DevinJaksina The US Pickleball rules don't specify, but I was sure the PPA disallowed tossing. Maybe it varies for different tourneys?? When I started PB, I was constantly getting confused with the differences in rules
@DevinJaksina
@DevinJaksina Ай бұрын
@@benvanderwielen4019classic move haha
@giovannidavinci20
@giovannidavinci20 Ай бұрын
I think the biggest question with Dekel Bar’s serve is that he almost always served and hit the ball above his waist. The referees need to watch that more closely.
@RickJacked
@RickJacked Ай бұрын
But he's not, they need to clarify if above the waist means with or without standing on your toes. Currently, by their own rules it is allowed. That being said, would hate to be the referee in these games.
@williamdowling7718
@williamdowling7718 Ай бұрын
​@RickJacked what they need to do is go back to the rule that you can't drop the ball from above your waist. That takes all the guess work out. It's very hard to watch in real time and see exactly where contact was made. But it's very easy to see if the ball was above the waist when it was dropped.
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Ай бұрын
A solid 70% of his serves are illegal.
@helloman3676
@helloman3676 Ай бұрын
Make everything drop shots or allowed everything as long as it’s not overhead.
@chrispaul1117
@chrispaul1117 Ай бұрын
He is in that group that had special rules. Rhymes with shoes
@BackMarcus-n5k
@BackMarcus-n5k Ай бұрын
Walker Patricia White Timothy Martinez Lisa
@РусланДавлетханов-ч5к
@РусланДавлетханов-ч5к Ай бұрын
Walker Matthew Jones Shirley Williams Jennifer
@paulhe001
@paulhe001 Ай бұрын
Zane didn't play at the pro level in this match. so bad.
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Ай бұрын
The crowd cheering when Dekel's serve got called is so satisfying.
@ray1johnson1
@ray1johnson1 Ай бұрын
His half-pirouette serve should be illegal and a technical. LOL.
@Basilisk2077
@Basilisk2077 Ай бұрын
@@ray1johnson1 the whole drama over his serve is pathetic to be honest. This isn’t tennis, pros should have no problem returning an underhand pickleball serve.
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Ай бұрын
@@Basilisk2077 When that serve is coming at 65+ mpg, landing at the baseline, skidding across the line, and hitting you at the ankles, it's moving closer to 100ish mph relative to a tennis court when you factor in the distance and lack of space behind the service box. The issue isn't the difficulty of the serve though, it's the fact that it's illegal. I think we should be able to serve however we want, but until they change the rules, they need to enforce them.
@adamheath4599
@adamheath4599 Ай бұрын
@@sallad2645honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his serves are illegal. But he’s actually clean for most of them. He tosses the ball high but he waits for it to come down while also raising his body /getting on his toes so he actually does make contact at or below waist level majority of the time.
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Ай бұрын
@adamheath4599 my issue isn't where he hits the ball. My issue is how he hits the ball. He's not swinging in an upward motion at the point of contact.
@hellobenny
@hellobenny Ай бұрын
Pickleball is going the wrong direction
@DannyBPlays
@DannyBPlays Ай бұрын
Dekel needs to learn a new serve and not stay with this abomination that is always so close to being illegal and then whining when a redo is called. The ref has the impossible job of calling it perfectly in real time
@johnclikeman5041
@johnclikeman5041 Ай бұрын
If it's close to the line but not over, then how is that his problem? If it looks illegal but it's not illegal, then it's not illegal.
@xSYusafx
@xSYusafx Ай бұрын
51:52
@lucasg4170
@lucasg4170 Ай бұрын
Or just stop crying about serves in general. It’s pro pickleball let them serve hard. It should be part of the game. Everyone wanting to de-weaponize the serve sounds ridiculous.
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Ай бұрын
@@lucasg4170 James Ignatowich serves hard, legally. No one says a word. Personally I think the rules for the serve are an abomination. I think as long as the paddle isn't going above your shoulder (overhead) you should be able to serve however you want. I think singles SHOULD be allowed to serve over head. But, the rules should be enforced or changed.
@thehumblecrab6487
@thehumblecrab6487 Ай бұрын
They should just ban Bar's serve because it looks so awful and clunky. It's definitely not winning any style points. Maybe the refs haven't been calling it illegal because they can't bear to actually watch it.
@rkirsch264
@rkirsch264 Ай бұрын
Bar's illegal serve. Referee's need to be strong and stick to the rules and not bend for Entertainment purposes.
@WayneRicker
@WayneRicker Ай бұрын
Please!!!! commentators talk waaaayyyy lessssss!! Let us hear the game, or here's an idea, have the truck cut your feed and offer two settings, one with, one without.
@TurningUs
@TurningUs Ай бұрын
This is NOT fun to watch because skill isn't required to hit someone. Almost anyone with a fast paddle can hit an opposing player. When the most likely winner is to tag your opponent, upper limits on pop and drive speed need to get lowered and be enforced.
@Pickleandrepeat
@Pickleandrepeat Ай бұрын
Lame. Weird match ups. The johns brothers woulda beat tardio easily. But they lost to the faster pace harder drives of dekel zane..
@krayvalorant
@krayvalorant Ай бұрын
except johns didn't lose to dekel and zane, and tardio has beat them before
@Pickleandrepeat
@Pickleandrepeat Ай бұрын
@@krayvalorant ur right i got the names mixed up. It was alshon.
@karlschwartz7933
@karlschwartz7933 Ай бұрын
The illegal serve calls were warranted in my view, but interrupted the flow of the game. The bounce serve rule is needed!
@MatthewRachel-i7s
@MatthewRachel-i7s Ай бұрын
Harris Michelle Martin Carol Perez Angela
@ray1johnson1
@ray1johnson1 Ай бұрын
Who is this commentator? "Blistering." "Absolute missile." "Totally destroyed..." Dude, this is pickleball, not tennis or racquetball. Relax, man. It's a whiffle ball and a paddle.
@wolf-xf6hf
@wolf-xf6hf Ай бұрын
Hey, just so you are aware nobody is making you watch. Dont like it then please leave because the rest of us do
@chrispaul1117
@chrispaul1117 Ай бұрын
Triggered 😂😂😂
@ray1johnson1
@ray1johnson1 Ай бұрын
@@wolf-xf6hf, no one's making me watch but I'd like to hear the game, players, and ref without exaggerated, hyperbolic commentating. No one is making you come to the comments and read them. You need to relax, too, man, or take your own advice and leave.
@WayneRicker
@WayneRicker Ай бұрын
Agreed, commentators talk way too much! We would like to watch... and hear...the game.
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