Make sure to check out the other videos in the Practical Penmanship playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLGhV4Zi3_KeStAwV2-RrSZFZNLhcSNT4A
@davelester19854 жыл бұрын
I like holding my arm still and moving my body. More calories burned.
@chickennuggets18373 жыл бұрын
👁️👄👁️
@MiScusi69 Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@jasonsmith-yd1ykАй бұрын
Write with holding pen in your mouth, you'll burn greater amount of calories.
@DieyenDualPenАй бұрын
Lol
@glixeluna3 ай бұрын
This definitely deserves more views- So underrated, it was so freaking helpful!! Well explained, well demonstrated, and well executed! Tysm ^^
@DieyenDualPen3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
@Dzbiq5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see proper arm movement I press Like and Subscribe.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
:)
@JJ-le8li4 жыл бұрын
Finally, I have seen a true informative video. Thanks a lot; I have been in want of information in relation to writing with arms. Unfortunately, there are so many ridiculous videos on KZbin that I left hope about getting a true one. I am really thankful to you!
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. Best of luck.
@AlanTwigg5 жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful overview that helped me make sense of whole arm writing. Thank you for sharing this.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
It is my pleasure! I'm very happy you've found the video helpful.
@jrairgunners9452 Жыл бұрын
I recently have found writing as a hobby and I am thankful to you for the video as it has taught me a new and better style of writing.
@DieyenDualPen Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it! Thank you for the nice comment.
@Kevnadian3 жыл бұрын
This is the most detailed and informative video on writing with the arm. Thank you!
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I hope it's been helpful!
@honeyclub_Ай бұрын
Hello Mate, I'm from india and I have subscribed your channel recently.... First of all I would like thank you wholeheartedly! This is my 4th day probably, improvement in my handwriting and handmovement is unbelievable... I have to face lot of writing due to study and I had a feeling I really wanna do something about my writing and want to take it to the next level because I love writing... I tried many things to get that perfection but couldn't able to anything about it ! My hand used to get cramped several times.. but after watching your videos i decided to give it a shot and I'm seeing improvements... I have improved my body posture while writing and learning and started reading that palmer method book seriously after through your channel.... I hope I will be able to achieve great writing skills within a year ! Keep making Videos !
@DieyenDualPenАй бұрын
Thank you and Best of luck!
@andreteixeira95843 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I was at a complete loss on how to do this exercises which I saw explained only in text form.
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
That's was my goal I'm glad ot helped!
@Dark-dz8co2 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen it seems you have sacrificed typing for handwriting unlike me
@atanumondal78282 жыл бұрын
You rewired my brain about handwriting. Keep up the good work. Love from India.
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, thanks!
@parisdblack17115 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much for this video. I am studying the Tamblyn School of Business Penmanship and these two drills are the first two lesson - I just was not getting it - now I do. Thanks 🙏🏽
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
So glad you've found this video helpful :)
@freddymoisesgarcia3 жыл бұрын
I tried the Palmer workbook, however the dated english made it hard for me to understand it. Thank you for this detailed explanation! I am a left-handed over-writer trying to learn to be an under-writer in order to stop smudging my notebooks, and your channel has been really useful, thanks!
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
Im very happy to read my videos have been of assistance. Best of luck on your journey!
@Hiraeth-dr8qe6 жыл бұрын
yOU SHOULD HAVE MORE SUBS. referred from reddit. thank you for this very informative video and taking the time to show the different angels concerning proper posture. sub and bell. looking forward to more of this content!
@DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын
Hiraeth 0369 thanks so much! Make sure you check out the other videos in the practical penmanship playlist. I really appreciate the encouragement it means a ton!
@muskndusk3 жыл бұрын
I write sitting on a couch with a lapdesk on my lap. There's a lamp on the lapdesk (bought separately) and I sit any way that makes me comfortable. Using my favoured fountain pen at the time, I can write for pages and pages and not notice the time passing. I pay no heed to proper posture etc but when I emerged from 'the zone' I move around: go to the bathroom, the kitchen, get something to drink or nibble, fuss with the cat; before I begin writing again. I write by hand only in my journal (an A4 loose-leaf ringbound folder), for everything else I use an AlphaSmart or small laptop. I wrote this on my main laptop which sits on a chair in front of the sofa. Personally, paying too much attention to 'correct' posture makes me too aware of my body and less of what I'm writing.
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We've all got top find what works best for ourselves. I'm glad you've found that.
@billminckler65502 жыл бұрын
This presentation is SUPERBLY done. It illustrates perfectly the Palmer method. Thank you!
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such kind words! Best wishes.
@Soundforsoul884 жыл бұрын
You are the first to help me understand why my index finger hurt
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
I hope the video helps get rid of your pain!
@davidrestrepo14414 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Diego, I've been following your channel and it's been really helpful. Saludos desde Colombia
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm happy to know it's been helpful
@fh.s.k.28475 жыл бұрын
This is one important lesson to learn, which is rare, because I mostly find other people emphasize only to the forming of the letters into words. Thank you very much. PS. What a gorgeous pen you have there. Fine western nib?
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
I certainly prioritize movement in writing. Drawing of letters is not practical for capturing thought. I'm glad you've found this informative, it is my pleasure. Medium nib actually, but it is a somewhat dry nib so it appears finer. Yes western nib :)
@fh.s.k.28475 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen Oh, I wish you had this kind of tutorial class I could join in person, as I may need it, but, I find your videos helpful. Do please make more videos in the future.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
I will try!
@fh.s.k.28475 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen awesome!
@hellokoreanadventure80446 жыл бұрын
Great video! You brought up some really great points and I appreciated the different angles. One thing I would like to suggest is changing your cut scene animation. It doesn't match the style of video I think you are aiming for. You have great content and I am looking forward to more videos!
@DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын
Hello Korean Adventure thank you, I appreciate the advice! This was the first video in the series, if you have time, could you watch a more recent one and tell me where I could still use more improvement?
@hellokoreanadventure80446 жыл бұрын
Dieyen DualPen Your scene cuts are a lot cleaner in your "whole arm movements for lefties" video and it matches your style a lot better.
@DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын
I'll try to stay on that track. Thanks so much for the feedback. I really appreciate you taking the time!
@jodymartin25272 жыл бұрын
Thank you . I can see that I’m improving every day !
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic! It's a slow but worthwhile pursuit.
@s.j46062 жыл бұрын
It was the best video regarding the matter . Thank you so much .
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bhushanm34812 ай бұрын
Big fan.....thanks for sharing
@DieyenDualPen2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@razziade2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video! Thank you. This video stands out from the rest because of the clear explanation, multiple camera angles of the “whole” arm movement, and the demonstrations of the exercises. My handwriting really looks like shit….90% printed and 10% cursive. My hand starts to ache after a few minutes of writing, so I’m going to try to get my handwriting straight this time. The Spencerian script looks so cool so that is my goal. Once again, thanks. Subbed. One question, how long should one do these drills each day?
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice words. I would practice at least 20 minutes a day.
@petrusgandamana2 жыл бұрын
Thank you... it is really practical as you promised it
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear. Best of luck!
@oxygirl965 жыл бұрын
Your video helps me a lot. Thank you for sharing this.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy you've found this helpful!
@ambervale61725 жыл бұрын
Full Arm writing saved my arm from carpal tunnel and De Quervain's tenosynovitis!
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
That is an amazing testimony! Thank you for sharing. I'm very happy that you've experience such a tremendous benefit from arm writing.
@vocalcrunch13084 жыл бұрын
Sir you are amazing upload continue siri am really inspire and improve my self too ...
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. Best of luck on your journey!
@painpeace3619 Жыл бұрын
Very good video.
@DieyenDualPen Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chetanmodhwadia72145 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the details,its great.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@morganblarue3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you.
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@alexandro_coutinho7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@DieyenDualPen7 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@bhushanm34814 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
@DieyenDualPen4 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@salimkhatri55574 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for taking you time to prepare this video. I have a question in regards to holding of the pen. I read somewhere in Palmer's penmanship that when you hold the pen, the top side of the pen should point to your shoulder. Any truth in that? Can you elaborate on the direction of the pen. Thanking you in advance.
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Hello Salim, so this video is over a year old and since my grip has evolved to match Palmers recommendation more. If watch some of my more recent live streams kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnSlZqtvo6-dd5o you'll see that the pen does point in the general direction of my shoulder. This change in grip has seemed to happen somewhat intuitively. I haven't made any extremely conscious efforts to match Palmer's direction. So I would say there is definitely some truth to his instruction.
@salimkhatri55574 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen thanks for the prompt reply. I have been practicing muscular movements writing from the lessons in the Palmer's method of Business Writing but without following the recommendations of the direction of the pen. Since I am having problem to master the Palmer's method and I am not sure is it because of the way I am holding the pen.Do you recommend that I follow Palmer's recommended pen's direction or keep on going with the same way I am currently holding the pen? Will holding the pen as recommended in the lessons from the Palmer's Method of Business Writing make difference? Please advise. Peace.
@StarKnightZ10 ай бұрын
In the UK the standard for writing is vertical writing as opposed to slanted writing. I'd Like to maintain a vertical script but to write with my arm instead of my fingers. do you have any tips to do this with the whole arm movement method of writing?
@DieyenDualPen10 ай бұрын
Angle your paper so that you're "slant" is actually vertical.
@molamola73446 жыл бұрын
great video! Thank you :)
@DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын
Mola Mola you're welcome :) thanks for the encouragement
@molamola73446 жыл бұрын
I have to thank you again! I practiced a littele bit and this makes all the difference from the way I tried whole arm writing before! I always tried to move the whole arm over the surface of the table but using the elasticity of the skin the way you show it gives me so much more controll.
@DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын
Mola Mola you're welcome! So happy to hear this has helped you progress
@jokerkof71314 жыл бұрын
THANKS for your vedio ,it is so helpful. someone say dont let your wrist touch the desk ,someone it is ok let your wrist touch the desk .i feel puzzled, what is the different between that and what do you think about that? looking forward your reply!
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Additional points of contact, such as your wrist, create more friction than might be necessary for fluid movement. With that said everyone's anatomy is different and because of that it may be better to allow some wrist contact with the table. This is my opinion and I am anything but an authority on this. You'll just have to experiment with what works best for you. Good luck!
@edoupdates99352 жыл бұрын
Pls be Honest.. how long after practicing will I become comfortable using whole arm
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Honest answer is it depends on you and how your practice and your natural aptitude.
@ginkgothestink-o69495 жыл бұрын
My pen sits on my ring finger when I write, not my middle finger. I’ve been doing it like that all my life. Do you think this matters?
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
As long your not finding the grip limiting I wouldn't say it explicitly matters. I would curious to know where your middle finger is being placed if not supporting the pen. With my writing form my ring and pinky finger touch the page and act as support for the hand as it slides around the page.
@Element5712 Жыл бұрын
Please help!, I use the Palmer method and the recomended height for minimum letters is one-sixteenth, do you use this height in your normal writting? the height of these letters in the book is two-sixteenths in the printed drawing, but for me it is too small, but maybe this is only my perception, please tell me what you do in your actual writting...
@DieyenDualPen Жыл бұрын
Start bigger, as you get better get smaller.
@jerrywebster76784 жыл бұрын
So the elbow should have contact with the desk functioning as a pivot? Because I think I heard in another video, maybe from perfectbiscuits, that the fleshy area of the forearm should be the pivot point. Anyway, top notch instructions!
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Elbow shouldn't make much if any contact. Depending on your anatomy the elbow may even hang off the table. The muscular part of the forearm is the correct point of contact. David's approach is much more analytical than my whimsical practice. Michael Gebhart at "In Pursuit of Penmanship" is another excellent resource
@jerrywebster76784 жыл бұрын
dieyen DualPen Thanks. I guess one has to make little adjustments for the individual anatomical features. Actually, my elbow pivoting gave my ovals a tad more uniformity. I do catch myself letting the index finger buckle a little bit, probably due to the weird grip on Lamy Safaris, bit that’s all I have at the moment. I’m looking at maybe the Pelikan m200 or the TWSBI Diamond 580 AL. Hey, I enjoy both yours and David’s teachings. DD and DD ;)
@firatcim4 ай бұрын
How about for left handed writers like me?
@DieyenDualPen4 ай бұрын
I have other videos on that.
@skewposts1533 жыл бұрын
I have no clue how to do this. I tried the grip you use and how you did it and i still couldn't do it
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
It's so.ething that takes times
@edoupdates99353 жыл бұрын
Thanks...I really love your videos... please 🙏..how long does it take to master whole arm writing?...and if you can write with your arm, does it mean your writing automatically becomes cursive?
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
Time varies for everyone. Few ever become masters that take a life time of work. No it does not automatically become cursive you can use arm movement for all styles of writing. Best of luck.
@John_Da199 Жыл бұрын
Are these exercises still useful if you don't intend on writing in cursive
@DieyenDualPen Жыл бұрын
You can focus on and improve movement in writing regardless of the style of writing. So I think yes! Best of luck!
@Dzbiq5 жыл бұрын
What's the name of this paper type? (Lines are visible through the ink)
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
Not entirely sure. I will try to find out
@jerrywebster76784 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the wonderful instructions. Which fount pen in your collection do you tend to gravitate to most often?
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Today, I reach most often for my Visconti Homo Sapien.
@jerrywebster76784 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen Thanks for answering:)
@xenongamer1774 Жыл бұрын
If I really tell you That's how I write from childhood and I thought this isn't good handwriting and now I am listening that people are trying to write like this.😐😐😶😶🤯🤯
@DieyenDualPen Жыл бұрын
Small world
@eldermoura12713 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I was wondering if the whole arm movement would do good with print handwriting rather than cursive,or it only works with cursive?
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
Hello, glad the video was helpful. I do have another brief video where I show how you can apply whole are movements to printing. I believe the video as ripped from a stream I did. But essentially the answer is yes but the movement will be different. The Business Penmanship script is based around the oval and it's curves where a print is not. Through study of the shapes you can find what will be your consistent stroke patterns. For print I would say it's mostly vertical lines. Some experimentation I'm sure would get you there quite easily.
@eldermoura12713 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen Wow, I'm looking forward to watch this video and put these tips into practice.Thank you for replying and sharing the ins and outs out of penmanship,your tutorials are simply the best there is: simple and clear,as it should be. Keep up your marvellous work. For sure it is changing lives as it is changing mine now. Best Wishes!
@morganblarue3 жыл бұрын
Also - please do tell: what is that gorgeous foundation pen you’re using? 😍
@DieyenDualPen3 жыл бұрын
The orange and black one is a Delta dolce vita. I believe Delta is no longer around but you may still be able to find them around for sale.
@morganblarue3 жыл бұрын
Ooo! That is a nice pen! (And I mistyped earlier: *fountain* pen) And thank you for the reply. 😊
@AliButt-hb3oy2 жыл бұрын
Hey can someone tell me what font this is? Whats the name of this font? Thanks
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
Not a font, it's a script or "hand" known as Palmer Method or Business Writing
@fermiparadox77955 жыл бұрын
I never understood the point of whole arm movement. I have tried it and it makes my writing slow compared to writing with fingers and wrist. I don't find a point in learning the whole arm movement when i can write nice looking cursive with good speed using fingers and sometimes wrist combo.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day some people had jobs where they wrote and generated documents for 8 hours a day. If you tried to write for over an hour straight without stopping you would quickly realize why the larger muscles used in the whole arm movement style were favored. I once did a live stream where I wrote 4 hours nonstop and in that video you can see that after 4 hours of writing the quality of the writing hadn't been lost, and to be honest I was hardly fatigued. I agree with you, in most settings, at work for example, I will usually write things quickly using combination movement favoring finger movement. But there is an element of line quality that is lost when you use finger movement though. The limited range of motion takes away from the continuous flow of writing and thought. For practicalities sake I will often use combo movement but if I want to sit down and enjoy writing for any length of time I will always choose whole arm movement, it feels and looks more graceful.
@fermiparadox77955 жыл бұрын
8 hours damn that's a lot of writing people had to do. I have to write maximum 3 hours everyday non stop during exams for a week (Day after Day no breaks). However at that time my main focus is writing fast and legible. I am not even thinking about writing beautiful like my usual writing (maybe first couple of pages). During that time my handwriting is not beautiful like usual but however its very fast cursive and still legible. During exam times my fingers do get in pain but that's what all my friends experience during exam time but we survive for a week xD. I cant imagine using whole arm writing during exams i will never finish my papers. Also there are some situations where we have to write in tables or when we have to fill forms where we have to write small and in confined space. During those situations i switch to my print handwriting. I just saw your writing 4 hours "pewdiepie" stream and your writing is a bit slow but its consistent and beautiful. I noticed sometimes when you write "e" it does look like "c" which happens to me and i just go back and finish the "e" loop. I gotta work on it. However your ability to write with both the hands and mirrored writing is just astonishing. I have never seen anyone do it.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
Yeah when I was in college I had to take a lot of written exams for art history. I always found that whole arm combo movement served me well. Fast and legible. It does take a considerable amount of retraining to experience practical results. I also feel that writing with the whole arm and flow of thought sync more harmoniously. This is something I had originally noticed through the ambidextrous handwriting. I'm glad you enjoy the videos :)
@Brumor2 жыл бұрын
Can your reach higher writing speeds with this method compared to the common approach?
@DieyenDualPen2 жыл бұрын
You can, you may sacrifice quality for it though. A lot of practice in a correct manner can get you to higher speeds. I'm not that interested in speed though
@AMIR-nm7fo5 жыл бұрын
I lo ve Tour vídeos, bit 5he volumen is way too los. Can you please fix ir. My pone has the volumen to the máx. Thanks
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. This video is very old and I hope since my volume is better. Let me know.
@AMIR-nm7fo5 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen sorry for my message. My writing was so bad. I have to switch between English, Spanish and Arabic......thank you for your time and your videos.
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
It's no problem! That's awesome that you speak multiple languages. Thanks for your support!
@wagnerbaldin86515 жыл бұрын
Do you think I can use a normal ball pen just to improve my cursive with this techniques?
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
You can absolutely use a ball pen. I have a video where I wrote using a ball pen in this style.
@junaidakhter86993 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen sir actually i have been suffering from a neurological disorder which left me unable to write like normally from both of my hands.. Can u plzzz guide me how can i write with the help of my arm properly... It would be very beneficial for me sir.. Plzz guide me sir
@Fernandohe1114 жыл бұрын
Must the circle always be anti clockwise?
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
No, you should practice in both directions.
@chetanmodhwadia94015 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, i am having difficulty with the downside stroke in letters like small l, p, q, g, etc because my movement is getting restricted,what should i do about it? and can you make a video that shows the same movement with fountain pen as shown in this video with pencil? can you put a link of the document you have learnt through?
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
This is I think too complicated to answer in a comment. I'll make a video on this
@chetanmodhwadia72145 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen Thank you sir
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
@@chetanmodhwadia7214 at 7:12 I show these movements with a fountain pen
@DieyenDualPen5 жыл бұрын
@@chetanmodhwadia7214 I have learned this style of writing from a book no longer in reproduction. You can sometimes find people selling the book on ebay or amazon. It is called the Palmer Method of Business Handwriting. Here is one being sold on amazon: amzn.to/2S8lXwv
@chetanmodhwadia94015 жыл бұрын
@@DieyenDualPen yes sir got it
@TheWatcher15813 ай бұрын
Your volume is to low. I can barely hear what you are saying. Maybe you should move your microphone closer.
@DieyenDualPen3 ай бұрын
Haha, sorry about that. Video is 6 years old now, so there's no moving anything closer. Gonna have to live with it
@usmanriaz99664 жыл бұрын
Didn't receive the worksheet nor three chapters after subscribing.
@DieyenDualPen4 жыл бұрын
Hmm that is strange. I see your submissions I will send them out. Thanks for letting me know!