I recently learned that the tie-down straps on flatbed trucks are given a half twist before they are tightened to prevent resonance from the wind causing the straps to vibrate. For long hauls, resonance vibration can damage the straps or cause the straps to cut into whatever they are securing.
@WeAreTwoDoorsDown6 жыл бұрын
And my whole life I've tried to keep my straps straight... Thanks for teaching me something new!
@madflyer10936 жыл бұрын
Yes sir Depends on what I'm hauling whether or not i put a half twist in each side. Usually the longer the strap length without touching something the higher the chance I'll twist it to prevent flutter
@calebburns43466 жыл бұрын
Did you happen to learn that from essential craftsman? That's where i learned it.
@frollard6 жыл бұрын
I always have a little giggle when I consider there could be googley eyes on the vibrating straps...just screaming bwabwabwabwabwabwabwabwabwa
@wambatmqn38336 жыл бұрын
unless your in Straya where the scaleys will fine you$$$ if your straps have any twisties
@clark572255 жыл бұрын
In 1940, my father-in-law Joe Yamamoto was a young teenager who lived near the railroad tracks a mile or so east of the bridge. His school was on the west side. He was there the day the bridge collapsed. Less than two years later Joe, his family and all the other Japanese Americans in the area were rounded up, taken to the nearby fairgrounds, then shipped off to various interment camps throughout the West. Joe never returned to his hometown until 1998 when we embarked on an unplanned RV road trip up the Pacific Coast. Some 55 years since he last set foot in Tacoma, Joe was back in the old neighborhood. He couldn't stop talking about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. It was a joy to see him relive his big moment in history before the war consumed the entire world. We were further rewarded when we serendipitously stumbled upon a reunion of the Tule Lake Camp internees, where he met so many friends from so long ago. For all my failures as a son-in-law, I feel very proud to have made this trip possible for Joe, my mother-in-law, and my wife. And for this reason, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge holds a very special place in my heart.
@lizasilomar85454 жыл бұрын
Great story about your father-in-law. I would like to suggest an edit, though. Change “interment” to “internment.”
@randmayfield56953 жыл бұрын
Interesting story. Thanks for taking the time to share it. Take care and be safe.
@westernoperators3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese American Relocation centers where during WW2. Bainbridge Island was one of the first places to be rounded up, and the one with the most people to return, however your timeline is wrong. At least according to bill's and laws after the end of ww2. If he returned in 1998 it was his own doing.
@JoeOvercoat3 жыл бұрын
Awesome story relating another aspect of that injustice. 😎
@Treklosopher3 жыл бұрын
@@westernoperators You're not so good at reading huh? Re-read the part about the RV trip ya absolute knob.
@JamesCoyle956 жыл бұрын
It's impressive how much the bridge could actually handle before failing. Just shows how good the overall design of a suspension bridge is.
@loganator78r5 жыл бұрын
@John Ross ya i didn't understand that either.
@augustreil5 жыл бұрын
@John Ross, Very flexible. Imagine how much worse roads would be without the serious ability to move around ?
@dakka72515 жыл бұрын
Lasting only 4 months isn't great for a bridge.
@snoopdogie1874 жыл бұрын
I think concrete roads last longer than asphalt roads, and there isn't much flex in that material. Asphalt is fairly flexible though, I mean for being a solid looking object anyway. Don't forget, that on the very hot, sunny days the asphalt starts to soften and get tacky.
@bluebaconjake4054 жыл бұрын
snoopdogie187 concrete roads are fine at low speed areas. There was a concrete highway where i live and its noticeably not as smooth as asphalt highways. But i think its just the shitty construction that made it rough lol
@calebshonk58386 жыл бұрын
I live in Michigan and north of here we have the Mackinac Bridge, which was built four years after the Tacoma Narrows bridge, yet spans almost 5x the distance. The winds between the Mackinac straits are well known for it's variability, some days it will be calm, occasionally it might experience hurricane force winds (and ice, snow, freezing rain and high heat in the summer). The bridge was built utilizing some of the lessons learned from TN. The bridge is equipped with grates in the middle and some aerodynamic buffering on the sides. Additionally, the towers were beefed up and the road suspension was built with a much deeper support system. Even with all that, the road surface will sometimes sway as much as 35 feet from side to side.
@martawatermanfitnesscoach2 жыл бұрын
35 feet sway would make me very nervous driving on that bridge!
@blackholeentry34899 ай бұрын
In 2013, at the age of 72, I rode my motorcyle on a mission to 'bag' the 13 states I had never previously been in before, starting in CA, all the way to the east coast. After reaching the east coast, I first visited Key West, FL, then rode north to Niagara Falls and eventually rode Michigan from the south all the way north to and crossed the MacKinac Bridge. A good length of the bridge is low to the water, no land is visible and at one point, no other vehicles and I felt like I was riding across the ocean. I am now 83 and just recently, gave the motorcycle to my youngest son. BHE
@stephendumaine157516 күн бұрын
The truss on that bridge is designed to withstand winds with a theoretical velocity of infinity. No joke!
@Ostsol6 жыл бұрын
4:08 I pass by a building with chimneys like that every day. I was wondering what the helical veins were for... Thanks!
@JoeOvercoat3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been telling everyone those are how gremlins get onto aircraft. And now I know they *also* disrupt vortex shedding…bonus!
@nobodydoesithalfasgoodasyou2 жыл бұрын
Even Hampton Court Palace has helical chimneys, though perhaps more for aesthetics than wind considerations 😅
@RByrne8 ай бұрын
They sometimes make them staircases for maintenance.
@adfaklsdjf6 жыл бұрын
"When you push the envelope you have to be vigilant because things that didn't matter before start to become important. Unanticipated challenges are a cost of innovation." This is like Carl Sagan level stuff right here.
@666Tomato6666 жыл бұрын
you just are missing "billions and billions" there
@Tadokat6 жыл бұрын
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
@frankpinmtl5 жыл бұрын
I think Boeing could have been wise to heed that kind of advice...
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz5 жыл бұрын
you beat me to it... 😂
@kestergascoyne69245 жыл бұрын
That quote really stood out to me. Very true.
@theonewhohonks96756 жыл бұрын
Once I was reading old military manuals and in a chapter on formations and marching across territories there was a keynote that mentioned never allowing units to march in formation or in time while crossing a large bridge as the resonance could cause it to collapse.
@Quintinohthree6 жыл бұрын
This goes back to the Broughton Suspension Bridge near Manchester, which collapsed for this reason on April 12, 1831.
@zedex12266 жыл бұрын
"Goes back" further. Romans broke step over bridges.
@Quintinohthree6 жыл бұрын
@@zedex1226 I need to see your sources on that. From what I found, the British and French only adopted this practice after the incident mentioned above.
@zedex12266 жыл бұрын
@@Quintinohthree *I* would like to see my sources too. I honestly can't remember where I read that or if they were blowing smoke. If my memory for such things were worth anything I wouldn't spend all my time harassing my coworkers for documents. But now I know what I'll be spending the rest of my otherwise leisurely evening looking for.
@GoErikTheRed6 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that stone bridges are particularly susceptible to resonance
@nomore61672 жыл бұрын
What I find most amazing about that Tacoma Narrows Bridge video is not the way in which the bridge failed, but the fact that the vertical motion and twisting didn't cause the deck to break apart long before the cables failed. We non-engineers typically think of concrete as completely rigid material, but that video shows quite a different story.
@coryman1256 жыл бұрын
I can't help but like this channel- it's just straight up engineering, no clickbait, or anything of that nature. Just engineering and googly eyes.
@billschlafly41076 жыл бұрын
There was a person who was responsible for buying insurance on the TN bridge. He pocketed the money instead because he viewed the risk low...cuz we know everything. He went to jail.
@TheDecguy5 жыл бұрын
Bill Schlafly I learned about the insurance scam while I was at University back in 1973. We spent a complete hour of class on it. It doesn’t come up often in discussion about the bridge failure.
@Rechard11074 жыл бұрын
@@billschlafly4107 ewww your last name
@dudeonbike8003 жыл бұрын
@@Rechard1107 better than Hitler. And I had to look it up. What's yours? "Zlut?!!!"
@notjackschannel53806 жыл бұрын
Can confirm: Airplanes are in fact designed to aerodynamic loads. (I think) Source: I’m an aerospace engineer
@nale51266 жыл бұрын
Source : Dude trust me
@t8m8r6 жыл бұрын
I thought he was making a joke
@ReflectedMiles6 жыл бұрын
@@t8m8r Perhaps it was if he was referencing aerodynamic loading generally, but if he was being specific to the causes of this event such as flutter, that is indeed an engineering headache with a long history in aeronautics with respect to control surfaces. From relatively high performance in light aircraft to supersonic transitions, it has been a cause of, or contributor to, many mishaps. Fortunately they are less common now, mostly in overspeed situations.
@88SC5 жыл бұрын
Aerospace companies exist to create perfect paperwork, to a precisely forecasted schedule, at or below projected cost. Airplanes are merely a byproduct.
@freddan6fly5 жыл бұрын
I really hope you are right when people's life is included as in aerospace. I am a rc pilot and build my own planes, or re-build ARF airplanes. The cheap ones are never built to be flown, and have not been tried out. I can use my ears while standing on the ground to hear flutter from control surfaces and then immediately lower the speed (or crash), and go home and re-build. Some real planes have counter weights on control surfaces to reduce flutter (for instance Boeing 747).
@Looking4RickrRolls6 жыл бұрын
*Goes to Civil Engineering Internship for 8 Hours* *Goes to Civil Engineering Class for 2 Hours* *Goes Home and Opens Up KZbin* *Sees Practical Engineering and Minute Physics Video* It was a good day
@MrTeaboar6 жыл бұрын
Funny stuff that both did kind of the same thing the same day. :)
@rachaelwang61555 жыл бұрын
This is what i aspire to do
@aviationclub26374 жыл бұрын
Engineering is love, Engineering is life :D
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz5 жыл бұрын
"When you push the envelope, you have to be vigilant, because things that didn't matter before suddenly start to become important." Exactly. This is a fairly profound statement and can apply to almost everything in life, not only engineering problems.
@WokeandProud Жыл бұрын
Learn from your mistakes and never repeat them ya it applies to everything.
@richdiscoveries3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I watch your Channel. I've watched countless documentaries on this bridge, but when I noticed you had a video of it it was a must-see. Explain things so perfectly, so easily understood that someone like me with zero engineering knowledge can completely understand what happened.. Thank you for the effort you put into these videos
@pufthemajicdragon6 жыл бұрын
Just a little fan raving - This channel is one of the best things on KZbin and I really wish you could post more often. Thanks for making the channel and for doing what you can.
@brandy10116 жыл бұрын
Airplanes designed for wind loads? That's certainly just a myth propagated by Big Aero :-P
@conspiracyscholor78666 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. Natural sustained flight is impossible due to natural physics. "Flight" is created through illusionatic magnetism, when you get into the flat, disk earth theories of magnetism you will see that electrons do not exist in any case.
@kylebutzerin78036 жыл бұрын
r/whooooosh
@jwfleming10246 жыл бұрын
@@conspiracyscholor7866 name checks out
@NublaNukes6 жыл бұрын
“// a mod over at r/flatearth, genius iq of well over 145...” ~ @Conspiracy_Scholar
@AndrewJJ-01146 жыл бұрын
I want to eat a big Aero.
@seancpp3 жыл бұрын
Grady, your content is seriously some of the best stuff on here. You bring very complex topics down to earth for us to understand, and your material is also very binge-friendly. Thank you
@betsykeller90964 жыл бұрын
As the daughter of a former Chief of Aerodynamics for Naval Air Systems Command, I can remember going to Lakehurst and seeing model propeller variations on a large board that were monitored for how they handled wind resistance. It was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. And, I enjoyed learning about Engineering failures that led to engineering successes. Thanks for the lesson!
@alex05896 жыл бұрын
Planes are designed for wind? Getouttaheeeaarree
@arthas6406 жыл бұрын
As someone from Tacoma; you'd be surpsied how often builders from the Southwest buil things here and dont take into account *rain*
@doggo005 жыл бұрын
heare ey?
@pjcanfield83 жыл бұрын
“And our next episode is on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster” Alice: “That’s right”
@ootommo16 жыл бұрын
The effort you go to in all your videos is simply amazing. Thanks for great quality videos that are interesting and make you think about things I wouldn't have other wise.
@REDandBLUEandORANGE6 жыл бұрын
Amazing that the road could twist like that
@Helperbot-20004 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@dudeonbike8003 жыл бұрын
Those of us have seen same during earthquakes in seismically active places. Bizarre for sure!
@Shmozone4 жыл бұрын
I cross the narrows every week, you can see the solutions you mentioned at work on the newer bridges. The replacement bridge was built in the 1950s and uses steel grates in between each lanes like the solution at 5:56. In 2007 a second bridge was built alongside the original to handle the increased traffic, but I can't find as much information about how this new bridge combats the wind. It doesn't have any holes in the deck though. Either way was interesting to learn about this stuff.
@Gianluca.bernardi6 жыл бұрын
Man. Your videos are the best. I learn a lot here. Sorry about my english. Greetings from Brasil.
@Quintinohthree6 жыл бұрын
People who do apologise for their English rarely should and people who should apologise for their English rarely do.
@Nitrxgen6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what Gianluca said? it's impossible to understand! Brother, you typed perfect English and you know it, why apologise? lol
@MABFR016 жыл бұрын
When I started speaking English, I would apologize about it too, reason being that the grammar nazis in the comments would trash talk immediately, even though I was French and I was making huge efforts at the time to speak their language. Sorry for my English
@mahuk.6 жыл бұрын
As a native Spanish speaker I made the same thing apologizing long ago. It is just like Marc-Antoine said. We might be sure that we know the words, but grammar is another whole different thing considering most of us learned English by ourselves and never really took a decent class in our lives. Edit: sorry for mai Ingurish
@atatatatatagsad6 жыл бұрын
@@mahuk. your ingurish is pretty good
@gmcjetpilot3 жыл бұрын
Mechanical Engineer and when in undergrad studied this. Vibrations was one of my favorite classes. Coincidentally my first Job after graduating was Boeing in Seattle near Tacoma narrow bridge. It was rebuilt and exists today.
@peterschmidt-nielsen3577 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I wrote the fluid simulation that you show at 3:43! I wrote it when I was 17 (twelve years ago) from scratch in C to try to better understand how CFD packages work -- I basically just implemented Jos Stam's famous Stable Fluids paper, except I used FFTs to perform the Helmholtz decomposition (he suggests using a Poisson solver instead). I uploaded the clip to Wikipedia, which is I assume where you got it from. That was VERY jarring to suddenly see something I made 12 years ago pop up! Super cool, made my day! You can actually see some subtle artifacts from my choice of FFT-based Helmholtz decomposition -- the simulation effectively has slightly periodic boundary conditions, which is why the fluid flow in *front* of the no-slip cylinder starts wiggling too, not just the fluid downstream. This is an artifact of the simulation, and doesn't occur in a real Kármán vortex street.
@darkdrgn0005 жыл бұрын
This was covered when I did my engineering diploma. Every civil engineer in world has learnt about this lesson in bridge design
@timothymclean6 жыл бұрын
Huh. You mentioned mass dampeners and the like, which minutephysics also did a video about today. Today isn't Mass Dampener Appreciation Day or something, is it?
@kuronosan6 жыл бұрын
They even both used the same stock photo of powerline damper.
@maybesomeothertime29136 жыл бұрын
Well, i really should be...
@blauw676 жыл бұрын
Great coincidence
@mrslinkydragon99106 жыл бұрын
Ikr... but this channel did it better ;)
@damussnochderstecker6 жыл бұрын
Practical Engineering can't have done it better than minute physics because they talked about completely different topics. Grady talked about bridges and Henry about TMDs. Bothe videos are fantastics as always though. :)
@Hemomancer6 жыл бұрын
Are those googly eyes on the bridge model? I love those details!
@zvpunry19716 жыл бұрын
Not only on the bridge model, also on the model showing the tuned mass damper: 6:08 And that's from a video that is more then 2 years old: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGK4ZYZ3nN5pZsU The googly eyes also appear on other videos.
@Hemomancer6 жыл бұрын
@@zvpunry1971 it's like learning a new word. I noticed them everywhere after noticing it there. But thank you. :-)
@BenscoterFamily6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I remember reading about the flutter problems on early designs of the F-15, giving rise to its characteristic dogtooth in the horizontal stab.
@frostrap6 жыл бұрын
I drive over the narrows bridges frequently. There are two now and the older of the two has a gap in the middle that you described! I have wondered for decades why that gap was there and I always assumed it had to do with weight, but it’s for aerodynamics! So cool!
@o0dhew0o6 жыл бұрын
@Practical Engineering the quick poke at airplanes @ 6:40 is just the type of classic, dry, engineering sarcasm that make your videos so great. Very educational as always, keep up the great work!
@PendragonDaGreat6 жыл бұрын
I live just north of Tacoma. If you go to the Point Defiance Zoo you can actually see a part of the old bridge in the aquarium. It was brought up when the "New" (third) bridge was built and is now used as part of the "waters of Puget Sound" exhibit.
@sharonrad33174 жыл бұрын
This was nicely done, thank you. Came across it because of a news item today of a bridge in China having to be shut down for oscillating and it reminded me of Tacoma Narrows. I really appreciate your point at the end that we always need to approach innovation with a certain degree of humility, since we don't know what we don't know until perhaps it's too late.
@jackfrost10316 жыл бұрын
The antenna on my truck has spirals for the same purpose. I've never seen a chimney that tall but it makes sense.
@bgdwiepp6 жыл бұрын
This is not the primary reason for the helical antenna section, that section has the effect of adding inductance to the antenna and is referred to as a "Loading coil", that simple put, allows you to make an antenna smaller for a given RF frequency.
@jackfrost10316 жыл бұрын
bgdwiepp interesting comment, especially considering the antenna in question has got to be 3' long. I've never seen spirals on those little stubby antennas. I wonder why not?
@om617yota85 жыл бұрын
@@jackfrost1031 The spiral was probably inside the antenna. Also, the higher the frequency = the shorter the antenna. Depending on the band a full 1/4 wave antenna may only be a few inches long.
@tokei1626Ай бұрын
I was re-watching some older videos from this channel. At the beginning of the video, there is footage that looks to be just random stock footage of some bridges. But at 1:03 - that is the Carolabrücke in Dresden Germany. Part of which failed unexpectedly in September 2024 and collapsed. What an ominous prediction choosing that footage for this exact topic 6 years earlier.
@jordanfstop6 жыл бұрын
Grew up driving over the newer bridge(s), thanks for this video! It was always one of my favorite historic moments around here. Fun fact: nobody was killed, except one dog, Tubby, who refused to leave his car, but the state paid the owner like $14k in today's money for his car and dog.
@FearableBucket Жыл бұрын
I love Grady's videos for one simple reason; He takes complex ideas/concepts, and molds them into simple, easy to understand videos. Amazing job, as always, Grady!
@Lillireify6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. It's amazing how easily you can explain complex matters regarding engineering. I wish I had such help when I was studying to be civil engineer :)
@dldave19783 жыл бұрын
Grady - found your stuff a few weeks ago and watch a couple videos a week. I appreciate your efforts that go in to the videos. Especially, the models and such, that are built to help visualize the concept. Have heard of the Tacoma bridge collapse my whole life but never knew the ‘why’ or ‘how’.....I find that with a lot of your stuff and learn a lot. I even have my kids watching with me. They love it! Thanks for everything!
@ArresChang6 жыл бұрын
at 5:41 "too much stress in the suspension cables" is incorrect. The element which initiated the collapse was the edge plate girders which failed and unzipped. The suspension cables were still in tack during the initiation of failure.
@JoeOvercoat3 жыл бұрын
I picture the cable manufacturer trying to explain this over and over as they descended into alcoholism because no one would listen.
@TheZombieSaints6 жыл бұрын
A picture truly is worth a thousand words and your little models you make are proof of that, Love 'em. awesome video once again.
@SongOfStorms4116 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I remember when the Mythbusters "busted" the scientific principle of resonance causing a bridge to fail, simply because neither one of them actually understood what resonance meant. That was really a face palm of an episode.
@lidarman26 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video on this subject and thank you for the demonstration. I remember studying this in Engineering school but we basically watched the video and concluded it was resonance but no other details were discussed. I like that you went deep into the details of how the wind energy gets stored in the bridge dynamics.
@Fs3i3 жыл бұрын
I heard about this on the "We'll there's your problem" podcast. I heard they're talking about this next week. Very excited.
@catfishmudflap6 жыл бұрын
My structural engineering professor showed us the historic Tacoma Narrows Bridge video on the first day of his class. You did a great job explaining the phenomenon.
@FuncleChuck4 жыл бұрын
That model was astonishing! Amazing how simple it would have been to see the problem if the engineers had been aware.
@chadportenga78582 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this simple explanation and the demonstration with the fans. I have traveled over the Mackinaw Bridge too many times to count, but I remember that it was designed with features to combat the wind that were directly derived from the Tacoma Narrows Collapse. I didn't know what they were, but now I do - primarily, it's the grating of the center two lanes. Very interesting, and just a couple years ago, I was able to boat beneath it - what a sight to see! You don't realize the size until you're below the Mighty Mac!
@Aphelia.4 жыл бұрын
5:20 I love how this little piece of bridge has googly eyes that's so cute
@sylviahacker66955 жыл бұрын
Great video, very enjoyable to watch and educational. I've seen those spiral things on chimneys and often wondered what they were for. And the googly eyes on your demo bridge, a great touch! Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@TheGerm246 жыл бұрын
I was really excited to drive over the existing Tacoma Narrows bridge this summer.
@freddan6fly5 жыл бұрын
Found this channel today, and this specific video. Thanks I "always" new that the Tacoma bridge changed how we construct bridges, and also that the London millenium bridge (which I happen to walk on early after opening) made us re-think walking bridges. Thanks I hated mechanical engineering in university due to a bad teacher, and am eager to learn more.
@Garebare16 жыл бұрын
Can you discuss about the recent bridge collapse the Genoa bridge?
@CreepAM4 жыл бұрын
I freaking love you Grady. Your videos are so well made, informative, and enthralling. By far my favorite channel on KZbin
@rodchallis80316 жыл бұрын
I cannot remember the source of information, but I am sure I read that the grating in the road deck of the Mackinac bridge that joins the upper and lower Michigan Peninsulas included grating in sections of the road bed as a direct result of the information acquired from the Tacoma Narrows bridge failure. I may need suspensions for that sentence. Anyway, I've been over that bridge a few times. What a marvel.
@rodchallis80316 жыл бұрын
Last days of '70, or the first days of '71, we traveled from London, Ontario to Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. It's quicker to go via Michigan and across the Mackinac Bridge. I was 10, in the back seat of my Dad's '69 Valiant, watching my Uncle drive his big car behind us. There was a storm that day that started out as wet snow, then the temperatures dropped turning the packed snow to ice on the roads. On the paved sections of the bridge, I swear I saw my Uncle's car hit the tire high guard rail a few times, pushed by the wind on the ice. But, memory that old is pretty malleable, and ten year olds tend to be dramatic. But....
@samuellourenco10504 жыл бұрын
Loved the demonstration of aeroelastic flutter in motion. No doubt, your channel has quality and deserves more subscribers. Keep up!
@Rulerofwax246 жыл бұрын
This video made in collaboration with Minute Physics. It wasn't all that similar, though I'd never heard about those dampers on power lines until today when both of you mentioned them. They're a good, kinda funky example though, so it makes sense
@RandyK1ng2 жыл бұрын
I did, in fact, see this first in my "Strength of Materials" class at Ohio University in the 1970's, so none of this was new. HOWEVER, I never knew what those silly spirals were on chimneys. So no matter how much you think you know, when you're open to hearing something new, it just shows up. Thanks, Grady.
@Ikantspell46 жыл бұрын
I'm no enginerd but I'll go out on a I'm and certify them aeroplanns are designed to handle wind loads
@philtroehler4074 жыл бұрын
You provided an understanding of this phenomenon that few have been able to give me. Thank you.
@acivilconversation186 жыл бұрын
Great video, very interesting. I love how you build models to help with the visualisation. I remember they had the resonance issue with the Millennium Bridge in London when it first opened. They had to subsequently install mass dampers underneath the bridge which you can go and see which is really cool. :)
@volodymyrhavrylov79933 жыл бұрын
I saw this (bridge) video tons of time, and it was always about resonance. But here you really explain why the thing was being _twisted_ instead of just oscillating, and that is so cool! I have asked this question - why twisting, not vibrating - for a long time, but without any decent answer. Thanks! Also it was great to know about the helix structures around large chimneys, I saw a lot of them around, but thought it is related to some fancy strengthening of the pipe itself; had no idea it protects the pipe from wind-caused oscillations. Probably, that's a good reason why this helical structures often are located only at the topmost part of the pipe - because the wind effect is most powerful at the end. Great video!
@Petch856 жыл бұрын
This is just the best. Love you scaled models. Hope you remembered the reynolds number when scaling :-). Also "Interesting" = "enormously difficult" for those non engineers out there. And "enormously difficult" = " many assumptions" for those engineers out there :-p
@SulfuricDonut6 жыл бұрын
I think "hang the thing and crank up the fans until something cool happens" is appropriate scientific procedure here. Proper Reynolds scaling would only really be necessary if someone was planning on using this research to for a full-sized googly-eyes bridge and that might not be a great use of taxpayer money.
@Petch856 жыл бұрын
hehe... Yes it is absolutely fine. :-) But if its worth doing, its worth overding. Thus bridge to scale and "proper" reynolds scaling it is. What wind conditions might there have been. Analyse the movement of the bridge... Maybe this is way my youtube channel still have 0 videos :-)
@bigmikeh58275 жыл бұрын
Petch85 Agreed. For my industrial Electrical students “seeing is believing.”
@JoeOvercoat3 жыл бұрын
@@SulfuricDonut No. The slot especially is going to be sensitive to the Reynolds number. I think the important thing is that he’s not trying to model that bridge and he’s not saying putting a proportional slot in that bridge would’ve solved the problem necessarily, rather that it is best practice now for reasons demonstrated with the model.
@olafueberschar3394 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks a lot making and sharing it - also for your almost philosophical thoughts at its end, definitely being motivating for any engineering student around the world. I will recommend this to my students.
@TheComedyButchers6 жыл бұрын
Always great to see a new upload
@StrongMindandBody Жыл бұрын
Excellent point you made on how important it is to be reminded "of how profoundly capable we are of making mistakes."
@igfoobar6 жыл бұрын
When you push the envelope, sometimes the envelope pushes back.
@atomicwedgie81765 жыл бұрын
It wants the stamp rubbed on it's skin.
@DeathByLego5 жыл бұрын
Or else it gets cut open again.
@KumaCarter6 жыл бұрын
This is a very well produced video. Glad to see perfectionists excelling
@fixpacifica5 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Seattle and must have met half a dozen people who claimed to be the last person off the Tacoma Narrow Bridge before it fell down.
@RealZynexx3 жыл бұрын
We recently used this video in my Physics class and I shouted out “I know this channel it’s great!”
@toniklemm11726 жыл бұрын
1:04 Yay, footage from Dresden, Germany! 😀 I lived there for many years! Out of curiosity, why did you use this in particular, and where did you find it?
@TheEccentricMage6 жыл бұрын
Well done once again. I love watching your videos - they're very nicely put together and the sponsorship blurbs are unobtrusive.
@justinokraski37964 жыл бұрын
Is this the famed Tacoma Narrows bridge episode of the "Well There's Your Problem" podcast???
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
No, that's going to be their next episode…
@mfThump4 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat patreon exclusive too, it's even been delayed since uhhh *last month*
@BicyclesMayUseFullLane4 жыл бұрын
Better donate to bail fund now to get the bonus episode forever :p
@AnthonyFrancisJones3 жыл бұрын
I am sure it has been mentioned but I always point out to my students that if you watch the torsional oscillation before failure it is interesting to see the lighting poles are moving 'piecemeal' an indication to young students that they have a different natural frequency which they are not being driven at. We had a building by our lab with a lose roof section and the noice from the aerodynamic flutter was a constant reminder of physics at work! Great video - many thanks for making them.
@dcaonoek6 жыл бұрын
Aeroplane wind load 101 - When landing, on a good day most of it comes from the front. On an average day you’ll get some from the side. On a bad day it’s coming from the back. On your last day it’s coming from overhead.
@Jo_Wick6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos through a combination of liking the source material and your well-thought-out videos. While I liked the videos when they were a bit longer, you still have exceptional content on your channel.
@logicalfundy6 жыл бұрын
More detailed and insightful than my physics class :).
@mrnsnp6 жыл бұрын
Always love watching your videos. Some days I have to remind myself to study over watching your videos.
@angry4rtichoke6466 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos, I always look forward to watching them! I live in Washington, but when we learned about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge we never went into depth about the cause of the failure, so I assumed resonance. I have a question about fire hydrants, and their infrastructure. I've heard there's a mandated range for them in cities (300 feet spacing?), and I wonder what would happen if you opened multiple at the same time (would the pressure be affected, or are different parts of the city separately linked?). It might make for a fun video!
@almostfm4 жыл бұрын
when I was in college, my Physics 1 professor had a great rig for demonstrating resonance in structures. Because it's California, he used a "building" to demonstrate resonance in an earthquake. The building was a three-story affair about 2 1/2 feet high. Fairly flexible sides made out of sheet metal, and each floor was a piece of wood with screws going through the sheet metal to anchor them in place. On top was an electric motor that had a stopper from a flask with an off-center hole on the motor shaft, so it would vibrate. He also had a strobe hooked up and a control that governed the motor speed and the strobe speed. He turned the motor on at a low speed and the "building" shook. So he sped it up and the building began to sway as a unit. A little faster, and it went back to a shake. A little faster and the floors started moving opposite directions. It was fascinating to watch as he talked about what was going on. Suddenly there were several loud bangs, and the whole thing collapsed in a pile. It turned out that letting it run for an extended time at the "floors moving opposite directions" speed put enough stress on the screws that they pulled out of the wood and it collapsed. He looked at it for a moment and said "Well, I didn't expect _that_ to happen".
@Travelinmatt19766 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what the metal poles mean that mark underground pipelines? When these pipelines cross under a road or fence line there are a number of metals poles marking the pipeline. Some are straight, some curve over, some have numbers and are painted different.
@Werdna123456 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an Electrical equivalent of Practical Engineering! So good!
@KurikuShoTto3 жыл бұрын
I heard that Well there's your problem podcast is covering this next week
@freemanc62584 жыл бұрын
My five year old son enjoys and is fascinated by your videos although he can hardly be described as fluent in English. Science and your charisma talk! 😀
@Horstroad6 жыл бұрын
Aircraft use their fuel from the inboard tanks first, then from the outboard tanks. This not only reduces the stress on the wing root, it also reduces flutter as there is more mass concentrated on the wing tip, ergo more energy is needed to get the wingt tip moving. The MD11 for example transfers fuel from the tip compartment to the inboard compartment only when 70% of the fuel in that tank is used up. At this time there is as much fuel in the tip compartment as is in the inboard compartment.
@UnbeltedSundew6 жыл бұрын
Well it's also sloshing around through the baffles, making it a natural dampener. Not just the weight.
@Horstroad6 жыл бұрын
UnbeltedSundew Wing flutter is a vertival movement, while fuel sloshing is horizontal. This shouldn't play a big role
@UnbeltedSundew6 жыл бұрын
Hmm... Perhaps I had it confused. I think I got the thought from this video by Mentour Pilot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKHdhpWPmt1nmskm6s He doesn't actually mention dampening action from the fuel at all in the video though. And if one thinks about it, depending on fuel to dampen the vibrations would actually be a prety bad way for engineers to approach the solution (making a plane so that it's flight characteristics get much worse over the time in the flight). I think maybe there is no need for a dampening force against air current because of the nature of the functions of the wings in the first place (manipulating the air flow and speed in a very specific way so that it creates a low pressure area above the wing to make lift).
@hanssprungfeld97146 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels in existence
6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video of educated guesses about the Italian and American bridges which recently collapsed? I would love to see your take on them. As they happened AvE tried to analyze it and the discussion is helpful I think.
@finianholland76546 жыл бұрын
Please keep it up with the vids. As a civil engineering major I love these.
@Swagaito_Gai3 жыл бұрын
This is the information you'll never get from the Well There's Your Problem podcast.
@SuperMak3607 ай бұрын
Absolutely one of the best explanations, technical while easy to understand, thank you.
@maxximumb6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Do you have any theories about the bridge collapse in Italy? Or is it too early to diagnose without engineering reports?
@RobbieIsbell6 жыл бұрын
What bridge?
@snakesocks6 жыл бұрын
It's too early to say for certain. It's probably a combination of poor maintenance and sub-standard materials. Italy's economy has been in the gutter for a long time so its infrastructure is in bad condition. Not forgetting that Italy is notorious for corruption in these fields; skimming money from the building budget and buying cheap concrete & steel. China is bad for it also.
@mulberryfarms68483 жыл бұрын
Grady, your subject matter is fascinating and your manner of presenting it is both engaging and deeply informative. Watching your videos takes my level of understanding from "why on Earth?" to "Aha! That makes sense!"
@JoeEls6 жыл бұрын
Aircraft do experience flutter. Smaller aircraft like a Cessna typically have counter weights in the control surfaces to limit the impact of flutter.
@t8m8r6 жыл бұрын
Was it a joke when he said he can't confirm?
@Pharry_5 жыл бұрын
Good video! The first video I ever watched was a video of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge falling. I knew it had something to do with wind, but now I finally have a definitive answer.
@hogfather226 жыл бұрын
4:42 couple of people just casually walking across a collapsing bridge
@210ANS6 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation.. not even a second wasted.. full of power packed information.. thanx mate :-)
@medea273 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how many hundreds of times I see that footage of Galloping Gertie or how much I learn about materials like steel & concrete, it blows my mind _every single time_ that the road deck has the flexibility to twist & bend to that extent for such a long time before failure - I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain to people over the years that it wasn't built of timber & it wasn't a hoax!
@PlasmaHH6 жыл бұрын
Funny thing how the bridge was used in the 80s physics courses in school and still in the modern world of youtube this is the best example we have.
@DomashnieSamodelki6 жыл бұрын
*Good video. I found a way to stop the meter with a piece of wire and lower the electricity bill*
@News247-m9v6 жыл бұрын
Thank!
@SuperFredAZ5 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show how brilliant the Brooklyn Bridge is. Built so the 1880s for horse and carriage, holding up to loads 4X the average back then. Interesting example of what not to do.