PragerU REJECTS The Enlightenment & Reason As A Concept

no, seriously, that's literally what they do
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[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

"Tradition bound English Kings" *Shows Henry VIII* Uh...

[@waspoppin4784]

Jeeves Anthrozaur yah they know nothing about history

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

Accommodating to the lowest denominator in education since their thought process goes "Oh, English, Kings, Tradition (thinking of conservatism even if it's incorrect) , and Famous". That's all P.R.ager U does: lowest denominator, easily consumable, only right-wing propaganda.

[@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901]

I mean he was the only king not bound by another organisation let us be honest

[@braydentobin5150]

Ah yes Henry VIII, the most traditional of English Kings, to the point he made his own religion just to divorce his wife.

[@stereoraptor6940]

it's so mindblowing to me that these people think henry the 8th was a good leader. he had 6 wives and some were beheaded after he divorced them.

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

"Fascism is the belief in human inequality" - Orwell

[@cosmojenkins3020]

Napoleon Bonaparte, Empereur des Français I would also add: “the glorification, and celebration of inequality.” They think their concept of “inequality” is not only unavoidable, but that it’s actually a GOOD thing.

[@cosmojenkins3020]

They think might is right, and that the strong should rule or exterminate the weak for the betterment of human evolution. But it’s not “strength” that makes them win. It’s inherited wealth, privilege, and being systemically favored.

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

@@cosmojenkins3020 "When I joined the militia I had promised myself to kill one Fascist - after all, if each of us killed one they would soon be extinct" -Orwel

[@iainhansen1047]

Napoleon Bonaparte, Empereur des Français your an idiot Seriously who invades Russia in the winter?! It’s just a bad idea.

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@ghjk588 if you're not angry, you're not paying attention. That said, take care of your mental health. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't burn yourself out. Find things that relax and recharge you.

[@johnnythunderschlong3031]

Prager U: “Why The Dark Ages we’re actually the best Ages” video incoming

[@tubian323]

Yep, and "The Immorality Of Unconditional Love" and "The Awesomeness of Being Mind Controlled By The Dictates of Long Dead Men"

[@julymagnus493]

They already made that video. Go to the KZbin search bar and type: "PragerU Dark ages". I forget what its called but its completely insane.

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

"Why the Crusades were justified" next PragerU video

[@johnnythunderschlong3031]

Napoleon Bonaparte, Empereur des Français “Why the Nazis Had Good Ideas”

[@itscalledanimedad6908]

weird, you would think Dennis Prager would hate Dark ages just because it had "Dark" in the name.. Hmmmm!?

[@crocve]

Next on PraegerU: "Genghis Khan - the precursor of modern progressivism."

[@QuintessentialQs]

Genghis Khan helped spread literacy, religious tolerance, government transparency, and near the end of his life tried to establish a civil state where women were regarded as equal citizens under the law. (He was a ruthless butcher too, but still...)

[@derfret1365]

@@QuintessentialQs He was a tankie? based

[@_extrathicc]

@@QuintessentialQs So... The Great Khan had no flaws but one... He died.

[@vincegalila7211]

@@_extrathicc imagine Alexander but Mongolian.

[@hangukhiphop]

@@QuintessentialQs "where women were regarded as equal citizens under the law" Except for the 500+ concubines he forced to bear his children...

[@elijahlurton3570]

What's hilarious is that the "Left-Right" dichotomy literally came from the French Revolution, Left being anti-monarchists and Right being Monarchists. Some things just never change.

[@NoodleBerry]

The radicals literally sat on the left when the government was dragged to Paris with the king. Before that they sat with other people from their communities. Just a fun fact :)

[@DCapps1994]

I'd say that dichotomy existed even back in the days of the Roman Republic. The left being the Populares who advocated for the rights of the Plebians, and the Optimates who advocated for the rights of the senate, and the aristocracy. Honestly if you look into the history of the Roman Republic especially the late republic it is surprising the similarities between our cultures, and societies.

[@blasianking4827]

Yep. Liberals and conservatives, in better terms. Liberals favored democracies and republics, conservatives wanted to preserve or return to the feudalist monarchies. These ideologies existed before then but it was really solidified after the French Revolution.

[@MrTallformyheight]

You excited for this years show? I have a friend marching phantom this summer

[@mickeyrube6623]

@@DCapps1994 dude, I think he means, etymologically speaking, the literally terms "left" and "right".

[@SynthCool]

MONARCHY IS THE NEW PUNK ROCK FELLOW DUDES!

[@sparksthedaytrader9606]

Just saw you on a Means TV upload. Didn't know that you were so based.

[@GoSuMonSteR]

I mean...most PragerU viewers are mostly evangelicals who want Jesus to literally come back to earth and rule as King on a throne.

[@Blue-ih7ol]

oh shit it’s Synthcool love your vids man.

[@SynthCool]

@@Blue-ih7ol ty

[@kikiash2425]

Wtf based SynthCool???

[@georgekostaras]

Let’s be honest, Dennis Plague rat is accidentally being honest with us

[@Kaanfight]

Dennis is the Great Horned Rat in disguise

[@croixtucker1757]

"We need to go back to a time when reason didn't exist" -PaganU

[@spindoctor358]

"Reason is antisemitic!" --Pagan Shapiro

[@FelisImpurrator]

No, pagans are way more reasonable than the average Prager dipshit. Ask the average Kemetist or (anti-white-nationalist) Asatru follower, or like, most Wiccans. They believe in way more science than this. This is full on return to monke.

[@spicybill]

Pagan Norway and Iceland actually had democracy long before the Enlightenment, so even the vikings were more enlightened than PragerU.

[@christophersnedeker2065]

The middle ages believed in reason also.

[@SemiIocon]

As someone who majored in history and probably will pursue a Master's degree in history, this PragerU video is infuriating.

[@davidhoran7116]

Semilocon Germanball there’s a mistake literally every sentence; it’s almost impressive.

[@wackoyacko4541]

Leftist indoctrination at universities REEEEEE

[@user-sq3ke5nz3l]

Napolean conquered Norway 3 times because of Rousseau

[@sierrasierra2595]

As a person who majored in philosophy and english literature and is currently pursuing a law degree I'm with you... PragerU is idiotic

[@weirdo82]

Commenting here from present day as PragerU now dictates Florida's school curriculums..... Ffs

[@frocco7125]

"Most of the progress we've made comes from conservative traditions openly skeptical of human reason." First: Wow. Mask is off. Second: Isn't skepticism itself an idea from the enlightenment?

[@Yal_Rathol]

kind of, skepticism existed since the ancient greeks, but it got expanded by descarte. he's the first modern skeptic, far as i'm aware.

[@frocco7125]

@@Yal_Rathol Interesting. Ok thanks.

[@mattwong5403]

Nothing says progress more than conservatives being stuck in the past

[@FelisImpurrator]

This is literally just doublethink "war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" shit.

[@1homelander179]

@@FelisImpurrator corporations are people and money is speech

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

I feel like me and PragerU have an abusive relationship where they gaslight me

[@MeowZeOwOdong]

All of Capitalism is like that, constant gaslighting (disinformation), when you defend yourself you are the "abuser" (socialism), violent abuse (various), switching topics and manipulating you (conservative media circus), and love-bombing (various). Quite disturbing, the more i think about it, the more i hate the USA. And i already hate them a lot.

[@grapeshot]

For those who have always been accustomed to privilege. Equality seems like oppression.

[@hfoded]

TRUUUUUU!

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodpl9761]

They meltdown screaming about how life is unfair because all the undesirables are calling out their bullshit.

[@avatarwan5824]

@ Who exactly are you calling "a traitorous pussy" and why? Or is this sarcastic?

[@sar2794]

- Joseph You don’t get to repudiate the ideals of the west then claim others are treasonous.

[@dspawn1581]

- Joseph Dispossession? You mean that awesome thing colonists did to Native Americans?

[@cajunguy6502]

My favorite thing about Vaush is how excited he gets when he hears a bad take!

[@bobjenkins4925]

He makes Destiny look like Snape.

[@cajunguy6502]

@@bobjenkins4925 "5 points from PragerU for citing Steven Pinker!"

[@wackoyacko4541]

Like CONSTANTLY lmao

[@miiiwu1999]

Tru it’s rlly entertaining how genuinely happy he is to just fuckin dunk on stupid ppl

[@TalabAlSahra]

Vaush was right when he said fascists wanted to roll back the enlightenment.

[@kingdomofprussia4649]

Probably true, think about it, "egalitarianism" name on fascist who regards the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.

[@doomernationalist6898]

Not really

[@henrymudgett2646]

@@doomernationalist6898 found the fascist

[@tomasjakovac7950]

Vaush isn't even the first to articulate it: fascists in the early 20th century were quite explicit in their opposition to modernity and the enlightenment

[@cursedhfy3558]

Fascism communism and democracy are the 3 main enlightenment ideals. Fascists don't want to roll back the enlightenment, they want to monopolize the enlightenment. Anyone who says otherwise has either been tricked by fascists, or is a fascist tricking you.

[@JohnDoe-sw1sm]

it's just crazy how these people have no shame lol

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodpl9761]

Considering their audience.

[@coltonriffle2310]

Ah yes, Yoram Hazony. He was also the speaker for PragerU's "Why You Should be a Nationalist" video. He literally says in that video that "Hitler was no nationalist". Yeah... Hazony is a historical revisionist who says extremely dangerous stuff.

[@SoSoMikaela]

I wonder what sort of Olympic tier mental gymnastics he performs in order to make a statement like that. Like it's deeply intellectually offensive but at the same time fascinatingly absurd.

[@Rignetics]

@@SoSoMikaela It's not hard. Empires are intrinsically not nations. Therefore any ideology that emphasizes empire is intrinsically not nationalistic.

[@servoaugusta513]

@@Rignetics Hitler was a nationalist. He justified imperialism and expansionism in Austria through a shared ethnic culture as well as pushing the German superiority and the reclamation of national pride when striving for power. The first point of the Nazi 25-point programme was that "We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination".

[@ericthegreat7805]

Hey i wonder if this is where candace owens got her idea that hitler was no nationalist but a "globalist"

[@NotoriousLightning]

But he has such a soothing voice! Why would you care 'bout them words?

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

Ayn Rands fan think they own the Enlightenment but they reject Emanaul Kant, One of its chief theorists.

[@abandonedchannel281]

Napoleon Bonaparte, Empereur des Français Rand was a vengeful idiot who was upset her fathers factory got taken away by the Soviets

[@society5204]

Reminds me of Hitchens. He wrote a book about all the philosophers he likes are pro-enlightenment and pro reason and the one he dislikes are anti-enlightenment and anti-reason. The sad part is that this shit is taken srsly by the IDW( including the lobsterman).

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

@@society5204 Hichens? I've read most of his books but I think you are referring to Stephen Hicks mabey?

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

@@society5204 I mean Hichens called MARX his hero

[@society5204]

@@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 ye must have confused the two

[@vedantthapar3666]

“The Enlightenment believed in reason. You know who else believed in reason? Hitler!” This is the kind of political analysis I’d have expected from myself in the 3rd grade.

[@kedamafoe2240]

That guy knows an apeal to common sense is a logical fallacy right

[@jstevinik3261]

Even Destiny agrees that common sense is an emotional appeal.

[@Marques2000]

@@jstevinik3261 Even David Hume admits it.

[@BewarethePurpleOne]

Theres a reason they're called "Prager No U". They're just mad they're on the wrong side of history

[@georgekostaras]

That they call the enlightenment a miracle shows they have absolutely no understanding of it and have no desire to understand it

[@jujuplayboy]

"Progress comes from conservatism" is one of the greatest contradictions I ever heard. In politics those two words are even antinomical to each other.

[@yoshimansxl]

The Republic of the Netherlands was hella progressive for its time, people fled to the Republic of the Netherlands to escape religious prosecution. We were anti monarchist too and fought for our freedom from the Kingdom of Spain. The current Kingdom of the Netherlands is a much more modern thing. It didn't exist until Napoleonic times.

[@beejcarson]

yoshimansxl you did have t House of Orange there though admittedly it’s power was widdled away by the time of William of Orange. And the Brits took all tour best stuff and forged the British Empire with them.

[@agihammerthief8953]

Well, it was progressive internally, of course. Outside Europe it was GEKOLONISEERD o'clock without a break.

[@stephaniewilson3955]

I LOVE the idea that the Scots were conservative. Proof that Prager U has no knowledge of Scottish history.

[@KevinStriker]

Scots are conservative, it's why they famously love Margaret Thatcher.

[@littlemoth4956]

Or just history in general

[@davidhoran7116]

2:50 “Author: virtues of nationalism” yeah that not even slightly disconcerting .

[@coltonriffle2310]

Yoram Hazony was also the speaker for PragerU's "Why You Should Be a Nationalist" video, where he says "Hitler was no nationalist". Yeah... Hazony is a historical revisionist who says very dangerous stuff.

[@davidhoran7116]

- Joseph valuing the nation? Interesting, why value the nation? What makes the nation so worth praise? I was born in a place, fantastic! I don’t think it changes much. What is there to value in a “nation?” Is it the flag, the government? Our government which has lied us into multiple wars, as far back as Vietnam? That doesn’t seem worth valuing to me, that seems worth fighting. Perhaps I should value our quality of life, which is on average lower than that of every other western democracy? Should I value mediocrity? I think not! What in a nation is worth valuing? And so far as social bonds, my social bonds come from my friendships, and we value each other, not the nation. Some of my friends value the Tao, others Buddha, and our shared values are of intellectual curiosity, not anything so base as a nation. What is there to value in a nation?

[@grantmorgan5180]

- Joseph Nationalism is uncool and for goobers.

[@davidhoran7116]

@@grantmorgan5180 Remarkable innit, that when posed with the direct question about whats so good about valuing the nation, He's got nothing! I find this to be incredibly common. They "love their country gaw dammit" But haven't the slightest idea why!

[@grantmorgan5180]

David Horan You just went full boomer energy with that post lmao

[@alecatnight1540]

Right wingers love hierarchy

[@alecatnight1540]

@Evropa toilets don’t exist in nature. This.

[@alecatnight1540]

@Evropa omg you’re so larpy and full of shit. Muh hierarchy >votes in austerity party

[@sacta]

@Evropa Do you have any sources on that argument that hierarchies are necessary for humans? I mean, aside from Jordan ranting about lobsters, you know, actual studies? If you're gonne come out with the 'alpha wolf' thing, just a reminded, it was disproved already a long time ago too. But yeah. If you could show me any meta-study that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt vertical hierarchies are a necessity for society, please? Unless it's just something you feel very strongly about but haven't given it much thought.

[@sacta]

@Evropa you made this too easy www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325174.php

[@alecatnight1540]

@The Thin Red Line the peepeepoopoo tribes

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Nothing says "tradition-bound" like starting your own church just so you can get a divorce or five.

[@aarohalme1020]

12:20 What is that map?! It has both modern and old borders, like Serbian pre ww1 borders while also having an independent Kazakhstan and many other inconsistensies?!

[@abandonedchannel281]

Guess the Potassium was too much for Prager to handle

[@KateeAngel]

Baltic States, Russia, Belarus etc. also have too modern borders for it to be a correct map. And somehow most of Ireland is independent from the UK? Never knew Ireland gained independence before 1812!!! And Finland from Russian empire... and such configuration of Finish borders did not exist before 1944! Yeah... Incredibly inaccurate map

[@sonnyocad287]

Somehow Kazakhstan is free, but Georgia is still part of Russia... and the Ottoman Empire has vanished!

[@SoSoMikaela]

My guess is that it's a campaign map they made for their fascist LARPing sessions.

[@martinschmiedt3075]

Like Tunisia and Libya in one state,Israel and Palestine,Iraq and Arabia,Finland (judjing by colour apparently owning Estonia and Latvia too),give me a fucking break PlagueU

[@8bitkron1k38]

Hegel is harder to understand. Kant is just strict in his terminology.

[@Clero77]

PragerU be like: "REEEEE ason"

[@nolanstauffer9405]

Adam "landlords are parasites" Smith

[@samiamrg7]

Adam “welfare is alright” Smith.

[@foxstele]

Prager U rhetorical policy: Name some historical figures with good sounding names and say they have your views. Then find some historical figures with scary names and say they have bad views. No need to research anything because your audience isn't going check any of your statements.

[@thirdrd0]

That's the best description of Steven Pinker I've ever seen.

[@conorflynn6666]

Also Steven pinker was friends with Jeffery Epstein

[@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901]

@@conorflynn6666 Steven pinker was one of only three people to openly disavow Jeffrey Epstein before his 2008 kiddyfiddling court case

[@samiamrg7]

Hmmm, some guys founded some influential colleges in the 1500’s and then 100 or so years later, the enlightenment began in earnest. HMMMMM, I wonder if these two things are related.

[@nivvanderg555]

that video is essentially the “science is a liar sometimes” always sunny bit

[@Russlem]

Wow I genuinely thought PragerU was just something we can all collectively laugh at. Then I found out some things that are genuinely upsetting. They've amassed more than 2 billion views with their primary audience being men under 35. Mother Jones did a survey of their viewership and found that PragerU videos had changed 70% of their minds. What the actual fuck?

[@mrboiardo1176]

18: 35 You should have said that Fascist ideologies are totally against the enlightenment, this is very important.

[@billpeel4408]

He says that early on, he says that fascism is a rejection of Enlightenment values

[@Not_that_Brian_Jones]

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment." - Kant

[@SpazzyTaco-mz5cy]

The fact that when vaush said that 1.8 billion people died in India as a result of capitalist british rule, chat was immediately hitting him with CITATION NEEDED is why I absolutely love this community

[@hamizanyunos1502]

Ironically speaking Adam Smith was very critical of Join-Stock corporations like British East India Company which are very similar to today Multinational companies. Moroever he warned that governments run by merchants are the most dangerous forms of government. Most right wingers would hate Adam Smith

[@ericthegreat7805]

He also supported restrictions on the right to rent land since he believed landlords were exploiters of what was the natural property belonging to all.

[@mrasray7622]

*DENNIS PRAGER IS ANPRIM GANG*

[@gillesdupouy8357]

"All of the positive values and aspects of our society were created by people that wanted to perpetuate the society they lived in" so change was made by people who didn't want things to change ?

[@m33dok]

blaming rosseu for napoleon is like blaming the death of franz ferdinand for the holocaust

[@GiordanDiodato]

well his death led to WW1, which screwed over Germany, leading to Hitler's rise to power.

[@thenomad9230]

It takes time to change people's minds. You see a few dislikes on the Prager Video now, but dissent breeds dissent. In a few years everybody will be hating on prager U for the conservative propaganda that it is. In the Asch'es conformity experiment when somebody spoke against the crowd the neutral test subject was far more likely to give the correct answer. How much you want to bet people like prager U because they're popular and nobody questions them? Start questioning them and you'll entice others to do the same.

[@Domnom22]

Rejecting reason in an argument is like going to a debate and burning the stage down.

[@bcr044]

just taking a moment to think about the fact that the speaker wrote a book literally named “the virtue of nationalism”

[@ultron-5600]

This video alone shows that anti-science, anti-freedom, and anti-truth are inherent to right leaning ideology.

[@carlospulpongranado7609]

-> Hume -> Moderate Skepticism Pick one

[@cynicthehedgehog385]

26:45 you literally can’t have reason WITHOUT skepticism.

[@avatarwan5824]

Just found this channel. Let me tell you that I love it entirely. Like almost everything. We need more lefty channels on this platform to debunk and destroy the right-wing circle-jerk that had been festering and developing here since the mid-2010s. I've noticed this trend beginning to weaken from about late 2017 to mid-2018. I hate the right-wing empire on here because I was almost pulled into it. I went from watching gaming videos to watching tons of anti-feminist gaming commentaries to general anti-feminism. Now looking back on it, I actually see that this is a very common occurrence. People are against their own niches being changed and therefore, these gamers who feel rejected by society hate it when the same society tells them what to do. First, it was the idiots on Fox and the right calling video games a gateway drug for violence, before transcending into anti-feminism and anti-left wing politics since the rise of the so-called "Social Justice Warrior". This was amplified by Gamergate and resulting controversies. What brought me back from the brink were a few things: Namely, they include Donald Trump becoming a legitimate Presidential candidate (a racist piece of shit, both in the past and the present) and my utter love for history. I love history, every bit of it, from China, to Japan, to Russia, to India, to Africa, to Europe, to even the Native Tribes of the Americas. This love of history made me liberal and made me want to see things and injustices fixed. I can see how liberal minds changed the character of this planet with progress and how wise conservatism (not the reactionary conservatism of today, but rather a careful progression) can help consolidate changes made to our country and keep us moving forward.

[@avatarwan5824]

Thanks, Vaush!

[@Dreigonix]

Your little PATRIOTIC speech in the middle of this is _mega_-praxis. I always say, I hate what America is, and I love what America _could_ and is _supposed_ to be. We need to take back “American values” from the right, for practical and simply factual reasons.

[@Disthron]

17:21 I remember hearing something about this. They had some notion that indians were lazy and tried to make them more productive by giving them starvation rations and only giving more food to those who worked harder... though this extra food was still not enough given the work they were doing.

[@klab2021]

I got my BS in ahistoricism from Prager U.

[@delraybrewer]

"I'm not even gonna preempt this video" "let's preempt a little bit"

[@Nethr]

I absolutely love Kant, but no woman will give me any. .....I'm sorry. That was bad. That was bad. I'm bad. I'll leave now.

[@jameskilgour387]

"aNgLo-ScOtTiSh" I'm sure there's a word for this...

[@HeyJudie]

Funny thing. When I was majoring in philosophy, I thought Kant was really conservative. I was a libertarian at the time. Granted, I was looking at Kant through a historically ignorant and completely modern lens. So take that for what it's worth. Prager U is totally off the mark here, though. Kant was considered to be kind of a stick in the mud even during his time.

[@azazel166]

A small correction. It's the Wilks Brothers(who are also religious fanatics) that fund PragerU, not the Kochs.

[@biggerdoofus]

I think a more direct comparison would've been good to include for criticizing the citing of the death tolls. Averaging, the British one comes out to about 9 million per year. Hitler comes out to 1.5 million per year at most (going by the estimates I've seen), and the Marx one, going just by their vague claim cause I don't feel like trying to figure out what they were basing it on, would by 0.01 million per year, which I believe is comparable to the death toll for allowing so many adults to drive in the US.

[@Sigma-xb6kn]

This reminds me of the ol' No enlightenment Enlightenment Fall of Rome

[@kylebernadyn2465]

How they frame this backs them into such a bad corner because if they’re claiming that claims of absolute Truth are bad then they can’t claim there’s absolute Truth on sex and gender like they did in a different video.

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

I qonquered Europe because most of Europe attacked me

[@pinksnake8001]

No you were just a little Cesar fanboy.

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

@@pinksnake8001 And what are you?

[@filipmaly6603]

Yep clear case of self defence folks"! Move on, nothing to see here"!

[@theorangeninja6486]

Literally laughed out loud when they tried to say that David Hume was a critic of the enlightenment

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

Capital Volume 1 was published in 1867... Long after the Enlightenment

[@benmatthews9273]

I did a school project on enlightenment philosophers and our teacher handed out a list of like the most famous contributors and Adam smith was like in the top 5 suggestions. Like holy shit I don’t think it gets anymore academically dishonest than prgerU

[@gronnlundfrompaga1775]

6:43 al who lived during an age where even just being acused of being non religious, or even just being the wrong kind of christian could get you tortured, killed or both

[@CarlosAnarchoVega]

“Science is evil and of the Devil! Gawd’s magic, gud!”

[@dahlia_doofenshmirtz]

staying up all night, crying about my ex, and rewatching old vaush segments.

[@batezioman7448]

If Charles Manson can be framed for murder and thrown in solitary confinement unjustly and he was still happy then you'll get stronger just like Naruto

[@dahlia_doofenshmirtz]

@@batezioman7448 awww that was really helpful in abit of a synical way but thank you

[@batezioman7448]

@@dahlia_doofenshmirtz In other words you can't make me unhappy

[@thedragondread9587]

@@batezioman7448 unjustly?

[@batezioman7448]

@@thedragondread9587 Yes he never killed anyone

[@ToddWSmith]

"This dude was pretty conservative for his time!" talking about the literal inventor of conservatism

[@ultron-5600]

I find it funny how PragerU calls out Napoleon in this video and yet a week before they were praising him.

[@larsfrisk6658]

5:15 thought he was going to make a joke about spirit science there.

[@jimaginarydialectic4682]

To be fair, there are some valid criticisms of the consequences of enlightenment ideas. Of course, postmodern critique is above PragerU’s comprehension.

[@SoSoMikaela]

Valid criticisms in general are above PragerU's comprehension.

[@calmkat9032]

10:26 Love how Napoleonic Europe has modern-day Turkey, Uzbekistan, Great Britain, etc.

[@VulpineCortex]

Literally sub-highschool understanding of enlightenment from prageru.

[@sunnywunny]

Prager university? nah, Prager unintelligent, hah

[@evanbarth7173]

Every single PragerU video (if honest): D O N O T T H I N K

[@Laakien]

Also I like how they conveniently leave out the influence of the Iroquois Confederacy's political structure on the constitution. I wonder why

[@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901]

Their influence on the US constitution is generally considered to have probably been a myth or at least quite exaggerated since europe already had federations that had representation for member states

[@ran__-_5183]

This is such a weird video for PragerU to make, to me. As someone who grew up in a center right mormon family, I feel like a lot of the normie conservatives in their audience would watch this video and just think "uh weren't the Founding Fathers a part of the Enlightenment?" and then stop watching. I don't know if my middle class conservative upbringing was an exception, but I was constantly exposed to propaganda that endlessly jerked off the Founding Fathers and asserted that the Enlightenment ideas that they implemented are perfect, stopped america from becoming a tribal monarchist backwater like every country in Europe, and ushered in an era of science and reason and individualism all over the W(hit)estern World. And apparently conservatives celebrate Napoleon now? Is PragerU trying to see how blatantly fascist they can be before anyone in their audience cares?

[@OwlEye2010]

You ever watch the PragerU YTPs, Vaush? They're funny as hell. Also, damn, the Know-It-All Kid got dumber as he got older, didn't he?

[@djjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

Urine and feces

[@theshortestcharles6886]

That host really criticized Napoleon's conquest of Europe *after publishing a book titled "The Virtue of Nationalism"*

[@syphonfillter]

Having studied the British Raj at university, I am willing to dispute the 1.8 billion figure for India over those 200 years or rather I question how it was reached. This cannot be famine alone so referencing it as a famine argument would be a bit awkward, we do have the death tolls for the famines. I suppose it depends how we're defining deprivation. Life expectancy was awful, poor Indians were certainly deprived... But then, life expectancy amongst the poor in most of the world was pretty awful, no matter where you lived, before the 1900s. I did some googling but couldn't find the claim outside that page so far, admittedly it may be out there, but I haven't reached it yet. It hasn't come up in a few interview transcripts I read with the cited professor who it turns out is a Marxist economist, which was cool to learn because we need more comrades challenging the norm in economics of supporting the neoliberal status quo. Anyway, the 45 trillion figure for wealth is a good explanation of just how fucked over India got by British (and other Western powers, as Utsa Patnaik correctly points out, they don't have clean hands in that affair either). I suspect that we have a definition of deprivation that, while potentially accurate (Poor people in the 1800s were deprived as fuck), is not going to fly so well with non-marxists who will simply go for the "Well, even the poor people in Britain were being deprived like that" etc if we started to unpack the figure and digging in to it. If we are using a definition like that then I'm on board with that, but I think in terms of convincing Liberals, we'd have a hard time. I think focusing on famine is easier for us in terms of arguments tbh, since there is direct evidence dumbass colonial decisions were responsible for how bad they got, and we can have a much clearer definition that people can't attack; You either starved to death or you didn't, you can't really hand wring about "Well people everywhere were deprived but see capitalism actually led to a better today because now less people are deprived like that so what you're saying is actually an argument for capitalism " etc that I think we'd run into with the 1.8 figure from deprivation. Each of the major Indian famines typically have a death toll measures in millions to, at their most extreme over ten million. Further, the British did actively generate a death toll of 10 million 1857-1858 so certainly the figure of British atrocities mixed in with starvation and famine etc in that time period would run very high. 10 million on one year was a particularly brutal reprisal in the aftermath of a rebellion, described as an 'untold genocide'. I believe the common estimates for famines are closer to 35 million for the raj, with a similar figure for the EIC a total of 60+ million. Between 1860 and 1900 alone, the estimate is 15 million died in famines. Mix this in with atrocities and massacres, and you've got a death toll in the hundreds of millions that can be indisputably lain directly at the feet of the British Raj and the East India Trading Company. That I think is a pretty solid argument against capitalism that can't be escaped by them calling semantics about the definition of deprivation etc (especially under the company rule if nothing else. Nobody can deny an a business so powerful it owns an army and holds land on behalf of the Crown, all done for the profit of its shareholders who were corrupt as shit and skimming vast amounts of the riches, is not directly caused by capitalism. It would be a ludicrous proposition to say capitalists doing capitalism isn't capitalism), I wouldn't rely on 1.8 billion as I think it'd have to be using a definition of deprivation that would be disputed, and of course if we aren't able to unpack it and show how that is 100% fair it'll get dismissed as being inflated. The hard figures of the famine are a lot harder for them to write off as such. And if you need a particularly juicy set of examples to cite: During the 1874 Bihar Famine, when the British Lieutenant-Governor Richard Temple wisely made major relief preparations and efforts at great cost (In fact, adjusted for inflation, it is 50% more than even the independent Indian government has spent on famine intervention. So praise where its due to Richard Temple. This does not have a happy ending however...) very few people died as a result. In fact, they brought in so much food, over 100 tonnes of food was unused, such was his commitment to the intervention. Which, of course, led to more... Orthodox elements criticising the excess spending and that the market clearly would have resolved the issue anyway, as the British government was so rigidly committed to Laissez-faire economics that it actually castigated him for intervening! Not to mention, my god, how dare a man overspend money to save Indian lives! It destroyed Temple's reputation and severely damaged his political career. Understandably, he was pretty upset about this. Unfortunately, rather than realising he was on the wrong side, he decided everyone as was right and took this criticism to heart, so the relief efforts in the next famine were comparatively minor as Temple did not wish to be chastised again. Potentially as many as 10 million people died in that next famine in 1876. And we're also immediately taking away any and all credit we gave to Richard Temple earlier, because the guy, like a lunatic, decided his political reputation was so important that he needed to know the minimum amount of food an Indian person needed to survive. After this second famine, he proceeded to conduct human experimentation on prisoners by starving them to find out. In case you needed more evidence the British Raj was fucked up, having been angry at him earlier for saving lives, they now decided he was an awesome dude for not saving lives the second time around and being so thrifty, and for conducting such important research. He became Sir Richard Temple. Fuck capitalism.

[@arskakarva7474]

Excellent comment. I'll echo that using the 1.8 billion figure is most likely going to backfire, by the look of things it has too many disputable elements to it. Even if we be as indisputable as possible and lowball the death toll of the British rule in India, we will be reaching figures that will match or exceed the numbers laid at socialism's feet, like you said, so we should stick with the indisputable deaths. From that we can also move to explaining how capitalism necessitated deprivation of the "developing world" in the first place and how it will also necessitate the deprivation of the Westerners who so staunchly think it's their friend, where the 45 trillion should work quite well too.

[@deadline93]

I agree with you whenever i see this 1.8 bilion number i wonder how in the hell the came up with it. Issue number one is Britain just inheretd the bambay region in the 1770s and did not controll all of the indian subcontinent untill mid 1810s following major invassions and wars with the local rurlers. Untopp of it britian never controlled all of india directly large regions of lands where almost completly anatonomus ruled by indian rajs. Next issue is the fact that india had only a population of 200 000 000 in the 1800s and unless the author argues that almost every single death is due to the british state i cant see how this number is reached. And with consideration to infant mortality natural poverty in a agrarian feaudal society we cant put that many deaths on the british. However thire are sevral events we can tell the numbers from and those are the famins punishment brigades following the sappoy revolt and ofcorse forced labour. Untopp of it we can also include tax farming that directly caused even in non famine years less food then needed i would estimate that british rule directly caused the death between 50 milion and 150 milion. P.S I belive this number to possible be a inidian nationalist number and we should be careful with it. Its possible it exist to legitimace some form of indian supiriorty or be used as a weapon against criticism

[@Painocus]

Remember kids, radical empiricism and materialism is bad if you are Marx, but good if you are Hume, and "moderate scepticism" is bad if you are Kant, but good if you are "anglo-scottish" (whatever that means).

[@anthonylarocco573]

Nationalism in much of Europe; Germany, Italy, and Poland came about through Napoleon’s conquest.

[@SSJKamui]

Kant did NOT mean the word Critique in todays sense of the word. Criticizing Something in this age did NOT Mean rejecting it or seeing it as negative. To criticize was meant in the sense of "evaluation" or "having an opinion about something". Kants "Criticism of Reason" was NOT meant of "Reason is crap and I tell you why." And Kant did not mean "pure reason" as "only reason". Kant divided reason into "pure reason" and "practical reason". Practical reason is action and ethics. (And stuff like "You should not try to answer the question wether a mushroom is poisonous or not by eating it") Pure Reason was basically thought without practical application. If you ask yourself if you should eat a certain mushroom, this is practical reason. But asking stuff like how did the universe come to existence, this is pure reason. For Kant, intelligence and reason was basically a synonym.

[@vrknyght8207]

He talked about how the Anglo-Scottish invented skepticism? Way to ignore how Skepticism originated in Ancient Greece

[@CH4R10T_TV]

If tradcons cared about genuinely opposing the Enlightenment, they'd cite Adorno. Of course, he was a member of the Frankfurt School, so we know why tradcons won't reference him.

[@natethegreatest1000]

What’s a tradcon?

[@e.h.2704]

Retconning the Entire Enlightenment and citing Feudalism as the peak of society is uh... Not what I was expecting?

[@blakemeads9225]

Dennis Prager is what you’d get if you crossed Ronald Reagan with Joseph Goebbels.

[@tevzcrnic4456]

Good one

[@SpaceLemon.]

If you ever watch the talks by the Mormon higher-up, they speek in the same exact same manner as Prager-U cronies except with more metaphores.

[@deckarde4919]

Yes this is a pro-monarchy video, Vaush.

[@sorrycantspeakfrench]

missed that stream, but got this clip recommended time after time. and then i understood why because this is a+ content

[@GuttTruck]

I did the Alexander Hamilton meme at the same time 😂😂

[@eclogite]

I love the "Napoleonic era" map with all the modern borders for the Americas and Africa lmao

[@LordDim1]

Never forget the vital role South Sudan played in defeating Napoleon

[@johngr1747]

I feel like the guy wants to listen to either Sicko Mode or Mo Bamba lol

[@randyrankin682]

Citing Marx as an enlightenment figure? Are they for real? Paleo may be among my favorite brand of conservative cringe but it doesn't mix well with Prager's tightly official, "intellectual" brand. This is nuts. These 58-year-old Israeli bible scholar types are off the deep end. Hazony isn't the only guy from Jerusalem who looks and behaves exactly like that, and spends all his time writing and media shilling stuff like this. Sometimes I can see how a 22 IQ neofascist might be tricked into the delusion that they're all reptiloid space demons wearing special cloaking devices. The world makes a lot more sense when people that make you feel uncomfortable are reptiloid space demons wearing special cloaking devices.

[@malic_zarith]

I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. I thought the conservatives at least valued America and it's ideals. I didn't used to believe they were fascist, but now I can't really say they aren't. They have the nerve to say we hate America.

[@MrARCN7]

Society

[@tvremote9394]

We live in it

[@johanadisunno1476]

Weird how Vaush calls Prager U liars and hypocrites, but when he said he wasnt gonna preempt the video 10 seconds later he did anyway 🤔🤔🤔🤔 very peculiar

[@cursedhfy3558]

These guys do realize that nationalism was also a product of the enlightenment right? If you want to refute that, you'd need quite the argument.

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

Nope, the formation of nation state and liberal nationalism were formed in 19th century not during enlightenment period, however the liberals didn't embrace nationalism as conservatives do today, they always questions authority of and criticised nations. The reason why they formed nation states was because to overthrow the monarchy and establish democratic republic.

[@rubensmuse]

my jaw fucking DROPPED when they started talking abt the french revolution like -??? YOU WANT MONARCHY BRO??

[@LordDim1]

Absolute Monarchy is dogshit. Constitutional monarchy is very, very based

[@NumeroSystem]

Private property was invented when the first king invented the first kingdom, and said now you owe me for living here.

[@entropicmomathome]

or like the native americans, when they killed other tribes to settle in better hunting areas.

[@NumeroSystem]

@@entropicmomathome There didn't seem to be much scarcity in native american cultures, prior to colonization.