PragerU's Disgusting Slavery Video

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[@donut.mp3]

damn 7 hours ago 😿

[@darius-m3p]

this video released 3 years ago. What are you doing here??

[@user-wb4ty2ye7s]

I love how offended you all are about the prager u video. I think I'll watch their video again and all the others in memory of your stupidity. 😂

[@Chillipowww]

@@user-wb4ty2ye7sI mean, you can just say you’re a racist.

[@ExpirisYT]

whAt

[@syppy7416]

"19th century skull enthusiasts" Never have I heard a more accurate description of Eugenicists

[@Epic_Memer_Man]

💀

[@BETTERtwodogsinatrenchcoat]

Calvin Candie be like

[@carterround4600]

@@BETTERtwodogsinatrenchcoatHellen Keller also be like

[@TheGreatCd]

😅

[@DanialTarki]

Only skulls?

[@Sparrow_J_Dreamer]

The prageru part of the video kinda feels like when you confront your abusive parent about their abuse and they reply with "yeah but other kids have it worse."

[@numberonecrate]

could not have equated it better if i tried

[@markthefan]

I feel this

[@chansfeet2500]

Too accurate. "Slavery in the US wasn't bad because slavery existed before then" please be fr-

[@gavinjenkins899]

No, it's not the same, because people in America use this as a basis quite commonly to be racist against white people. As in "white people do all the slavery. So there's something genetically wrong with all of them therefore I can be prejudiced against random white people I know too." And yet the random white people they know in their own lives DID NOT PRACTICE SLAVERY. So no, your analogy is bad, because the parent in your analogy actually did abuse someone. Whereas the random white people Americans use this on didn't personally do anything wrong at all, they were just born with not much melanin. It's more like "I confronted my NON-abusive parents, because they physically resemble some other parents that were abusive" ... then why did you confront them?

[@lizlee8715]

Kinda said how accurate this is…

[@tschichpich]

Imagine a video starting with "Genocide wasn't 'invented' by the germans, the first genocide was ..."

[@lznicu]

It wasn't, Ottoman Empire was among the first to comit genocide in Armenia.

[@tschichpich]

@@lznicu you 100% missed the point

[@lznicu]

@@tschichpich I am not missing the point, I just informed you that Germany did not make the first genocide. Your beloved father Vladimir Ilici Lenin said: Learn, learn, learn!

[@tschichpich]

@@lznicu and i never said or implied that it was the first

[@lznicu]

@@tschichpich Ok, so why you did not mention the Rwanda genocide instead?! Probably because Germany fits your believes.

[@bryanraynor8448]

I like how she mentioned modern slavery but didn’t mention any of the companies that benefit at the end of the chain of labor

[@plutophantomhive3231]

Because she is funded by those

[@cryochick9044]

Also didn't mention how yea black countries still have slavery, how many of those black countries are fighting against white rule rn? I remember reading about a politician named Adolf Hitler, not the one you all know about. He's a black man mid 40s who right now is trying to fight to get more majority rule in his nation instead of the white minority rule of it. Yes this sounds like a joke cause of the name, but he does exist.

[@electricangel4488]

Because labour is exchange not slavery.

[@cryochick9044]

@@electricangel4488 only by name. You know what happened to a lot of slaves after the abolishment if slavery right? Rigut back to being slaves, but this time they get "paid" because they are working off debt its soo much better!!! companies are doing this same thing. It slavery without being called slavery

[@electricangel4488]

@@cryochick9044 thats leaving history which is already complicated and is going into marxian psudo science. No working off depth isnt slavery. Thou the historic example you aim for in the usa are exploitation. Small comfort to the victems. Depth means you owe someone something. If you ascribe value only to labour as the marxians do. Then the labour in this case is invest into the worker to get them more skilled. Thus thr worker owes his investor labour or money in return. Much in the same way a company will not give you dept when you join. You owe others thst have given you value and its your responiblity to repay them. Every privilidge has a duty or should have it. We can discuss the details of workersright wages hourse and freedom. Non of that will grant the premis thst the worker is a slave.

[@otakuinred]

"As we've learned throughout history, slave owners are sore losers" Alright that got a laugh out of me

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Seems to be genetical too... their descendants cannot stop losing to this day.

[@sarahcivilization9905]

I see people flying those flags almost every day here in the south too 😭

[@otakuinred]

@@sarahcivilization9905 Same here, living in the south is hell

[@BingusLover45]

​@@otakuinred"bUt iT rePreSents soUtheRn priDe" like no, it's literally a battle flag

[@tyrnanreply958]

@@BingusLover45 of the side that lost to

[@sephirosu]

Them always using black people as their mouthpieces is so sickening.

[@theRPGmaster]

Wow, leftists are really disgusting, you all see black people as pawns with no free will. The worst thing is that you're not even aware of it. I wish you would feel some shame once in a while.

[@jikkybytt]

Because it sounds more credible when a black person defends slavery. They'll find a Ukrainian guy to explain how invading Ukraine was good and they'll find a jew (Benny) to defend holocaust

[@Cheeseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

not all black people have to be on the left

[@bigdog3695]

​@@Cheeseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetrue, but you can tell that they're using a black women to make their point more "valid". "A black person is telling you this so it's true since this is about them." That's the logic. It works on a lot of people since it makes the point seem more true and less biased even if it isn't.

[@Cheeseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

@@bigdog3695 To be fair, I have seen anybody from black women to white men saying the exact same thing for many years now. I have also seen most people on the right not really focus on who is talking about a subject. What you are saying could be possible though. I also think that anybody should be able to speak on a subject regardless of characteristics and have their opinion weighed the same as everybody else.

[@baranxlr]

It's baffling that they genuinely tried to argue that Colombus was just a product of his time, even though we have records of people from back then describing him as an especially cruel governor, to the point he got removed from office.

[@nightdrivenen7909]

Yes. A product of the culture of his time where governors where rather cruel people, as they lived in a position of privilidge and power over the commoner peasant. He would have been part of the top 10% of his era.

[@andpeg]

I hate when people try to use that excuse in general, but for Columbus in particular it doesn’t make sense. The dude died in jail because of how he treated the people he was governing. Clearly there were people who lived in the same period as he did who thought he was a tyrant. Do they know the history they’re supposed to be teaching?

[@plague_doctor0237]

@@andpeg i don't think that the phrase "they were a product of the culture of their time" is an excuse, but rather, an explanation to why people were like this

[@Malachite7]

@@plague_doctor0237 It can be either. A surprising amount of people try to use it as an excuse- Columbus is a historical figure that a lot of Americans look up to, and they dont like having their bubbles burst. Italian Americans especially, afaik

[@nightdrivenen7909]

@@plague_doctor0237 Considering the only time this kind of behavior is bashed on is when it includes White People, the double standard is there. And they use thr sins of the past to say that All White people born today are 100% responsable and guilty for the actions of someone hundreds of years ago did. YET when you point out the ateoceties of any minority ethnic group, the immediate excuse given is: "That is their culture. We are not here to talk about them." Even if it involves the same exact tyrannical and evil behaviors. So what? Only WHITE people are to be blamed for the sins of the past? Only White people are to be demonized? Every ethnic group has done terrible and evil things to every other ethnic group and their own. There isn't a single one that HASN'T practiced Slavory, Cannibalism, and Tyrannical governence over their weaker brethren. Everyone is guilty. Yet we strictly blame White people for the past. No one blames the African Kings and tribes that rangled up their fellow Africans to sell to other countries as slaves. No one wants to talk about the Native American tribes that practiced slavory onto weaker tribes and the English when they came over. No one wants to talk about what the Central and Southern America tribes slavory, cannibalism or sacrifices of anyone weaker than them. ALL of it nust gets hand waved off as "Their Culture" So why do we have to hate anyone with a Pale complexion of skin for these same heinous acts, yet they get to hold their heads high about it and clammor that they should be done all over again STRICTLY to White People? It makes no bloody sense, where is the damn line? Why is the double standard acceptable?

[@ttubebaby]

Let's not forget that the, "Native American cannibals," trope is also a racist myth used to justify the enslavement and massacre of Caribs because they resisted Spanish conquest.

[@z.s.7992]

Its amazing the blight the conquistadors brought to this hemisphere

[@Apostate_Alexei]

Yyyyyyyep!

[@theflaggedyoutuberii4311]

So you're telling me the Mayans didn't cut people's chests open and then ate their 💕?

[@z.s.7992]

@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 thats wednesday for me and im white

[@RedFlagRevival]

History is written by the victors.

[@melody3741]

“PragerU’s source goes to a 404 page” Yeah, that about sums it up

[@girletherial]

Exactly! When I think about how education-deficient backwater Evangelicals are, being home schooled without learning basics like the theory of evolution, I can see how (scarily) PragerU meets an unmet need. It's just a shame that their educational content is as bad as teaching Creationism as fact, Wait. I just had to look. PragerU does, in fact, have a video pitching Intelligent Design.

[@derptomistic]

Candace Owens be like "Your honor, my client can't be found guilty of murder because other people do murder."

[@raveun2thejoy]

Basically lmao

[@hmnhntr]

"Why are you so focused on American slavery?" Maybe because we live in America?

[@z.s.7992]

@@hmnhntr she would have been the reverse Harriet Tubman....it would be the above ground prison train.

[@ethansprague2005]

@@hmnhntr and because people fought to bring it back less than 70 years ago

[@KILLA_BEA_ARTHUR_O.D.C.R]

Your honor did you account for the 364 days of the yeary client did rob a bank.

[@michaelwalker7400]

She leaves out that modern slavery is practiced on every continent in the world, save Antartica. That also includes the United States. The government reports on this every year. And that's not accounting for those working in prisons. There's a reason we have road signs that say to look for the signs of human trafficking.

[@mmrw]

Ok but uhh…I’m pretty sure there’s a difference between legalized slavery and illegally practiced slavery

[@michaelwalker7400]

@@mmrw most slavery practiced in the modern age, to include Africa and Asia, is illegal.

[@jmurray1110]

First it’s still slavery that isn’t being cracked down on Secondly the 13th amendment let’s prisoners be actual slaves legally

[@AlFredo-sx2yy]

@@michaelwalker7400 that is pretty much their point tho... that slavery in the past was legal, but now is illegal, and since the Modern Age it was illegal in most of the world, thus, for very obvious reasons, modern slavery was illegal. You people like to make claims such as the Spanish conquistadores taking slaves and whatnot, but let me make a small reminder that according to the law at the time, any and all territories that were explored would be conquered, thus, they would pass to be part of the crown, which means they would not be colonies, they would literally be part of the nation, which means the same laws would apply to anyone who was part of said conquered territories... which aligns with what you said, slavery was illegal. So, again, that is exactly the point the other commenter made, there's a difference between legalized slavery and illegal slavery. One is accepted by a nation's government, the other is against the law. I think you dont need to be an engineer to figure this one out.

[@tuffjiggly8566]

@@AlFredo-sx2yy Remember, the 13th amendment made slavery illegal *except* for those convicted of a crime. Make a law that targets an underprivileged group and, huh looks like we got a workforce again.

[@shaniatheholycrusader87]

Candice: "Britain was the first nation to abolish slavery!" My Indian acestors from 1857-1947: 💀

[@MostlyPennyCat]

OK, I'm but defending what the British did in India, however: _"The Indian Slavery Act of 1843 outlawed the sale of slaves and made it a criminal offense in 1862. However, the institution of slavery was not fully criminalized until 1860, when the British East India Company's rule was replaced by colonial rule."_ Please don't be disingenuous. Lower caste members were often entered into, er, I forget the exact word if they became financially indebted to a higher caste family until the debt was worked off. None of this is _good,_ but please don't use unnecessary hyperbole.

[@ainz2579]

My persian ancestors in 250 bce:🥵

[@ThatOneManWhoLaughsInBritish]

​@@ainz2579It came back after Cyprus The Great of Cyprus🇨🇾 died

[@hailthequeenFM]

Haiti between 1804 - 1806

[@horamsential]

@@ainz2579 tf is that emjoi? yo ancestors getting freaky in 250 bce?

[@darkacb8422]

"History is complicated" *immediately proceeds to oversimplify history*

[@iconofthicc6086]

Oversimplified? this video is sponsored by NORD VPN

[@kiv3745]

@@iconofthicc6086 like tony's mother at a buffet.

[@horamsential]

isnt that the point? to make it easier to understand for dumb people like you?

[@Lazymediasiblings]

@@kiv3745 dude. uncool

[@estebanod]

Yeah that’s the point of vulgarization, glad you discovered that.

[@syppy7416]

I love how Candace talks about the "murderous Persian Empire" when Cyrus the Great, King of said empire, basically invented the modern understanding of Human Rights, and also abolished Slavery

[@timothymclean]

To be fair, a lot of pop history takes the villainous character of the Persian Empire for granted, partly because our Greek sources didn't like the Persians* and mostly because it bolsters east-versus-west narratives that people find appealing for reasons they don't like to think about. *The only major polis that got along with Persia, Sparta, didn't leave many written sources.

[@SeasideDetective2]

He also freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity. You'd think that PragerU, which believes that Israel can do no wrong, would appreciate that.

[@christophersnedeker]

They didn't abolish slavery entirely, but they didn't have as much of it as other civilizations.

[@natesmodelsdoodles5403]

@@SeasideDetective2 He didn't just free them, he repatriated them.

[@willimberg7795]

The Achaemenid Empire was one of the greatest civilizations ever IMO. Incredibly progressive, especially when Sparta had an entire class of State-owned slaves.

[@realsausageproductions8134]

5:58 “Male slaves were mostly conscripted for military work, while female slaves were used as domestic servants” quite the biggest understatement ever. Male slaves in the Ottoman Empire were often assigned to row ships in the ottoman navy, rowing until their death, often due to infection, heat stroke, and burns, since they were literally chained down to their seat with no clothes. (hence the burns and heat stroke) Female Slaves were pretty much sex slaves, (not domestic servants as this guy suggests.) any other males not fit for military service were castrated, and were pretty much Eunuchs.

[@lawrencerutherford4260]

I do love how they just dusted over one of the worst slave trades in the world by just going, "well some of them could use being slaves to progress socially" also the Islamic Saharan slave trade was probably not much better than the Atlantic slave trade

[@chaoticcow4357]

Yeah this skimming of ottoman slavery felt very haphazard. Honestly this entire video feels a uncomfortable in that the guy speaking against PragerU is ALSO comparing slavery. I dont think slavery should at all be compared because its never not going to be a horrible thing. Doesnt matter how many more rights you have as a slave, you are still a slave, you still belong to someone and arent treated like a human being. Slavery doesnt need to be heightened or lessened, it needs to be taught about in every aspect. Theres a reason why alot of americans genuinely think white people started slavery because that specific trade is ALL you are taught. Teach about the oldest forms of slavery, economically formed slavery, socially formed slavery, modern slavery, just all of it because its all horrible and it all needs to be used as a cruel example of what the world was like and still is like now. I didnt know about comfort women until I started digging into slavery as a topic, hell even teachings about the Holocaust and the concentration camps completely watered down the slavery that was held in those. If one of the most traumatizing, disgusting mass genocides has details like that being watered down, then I think we seriously need to rethink how we handle Slavery as a topic in schools.

[@realsausageproductions8134]

@@chaoticcow4357 Well said

[@thisdustslave7661]

Yeah, true, that felt suuuper weird.

[@ainz2579]

Because this isn't about ottotard slavery and he didn't give enough of a fuck to deep research

[@erikhendrickson59]

"When Comlumbus DISCOVERED the New World," she says, before continuing on to describe how he landed on an ALREADY-INHABITED island.

[@formersamonellaclone]

Conservatives are just like that lmao they contradict themselves all the damn time, it's absurd.

[@gaIIowsCaIibrator]

Wasn't even the first European to """find""" america

[@gaIIowsCaIibrator]

If you consider people like Leif Eriksson to be European

[@aprilk141]

@@gaIIowsCaIibrator I think so since the nords make up a pretty big part of the EU and what we now call the European continent, plus like half of our modern english words are nordic in origin, words like skull, skeleton, skin, skid, they really liked words beginning in sk.

[@gaIIowsCaIibrator]

@@aprilk141 interesting

[@elem-sike4161]

Candace: Slavery was not invented by white people in the Americas!” Everyone: “Literally nobody said they did”

[@darksidegryphon5393]

It was just industrialized.

[@electricangel4488]

I have seen people be surpriced. So good on you for being educated.

[@tetsujin_144]

"In fact even in the bible, god himself says... uh... wait, let's not dwell on that."

[@Gustoberg]

this. We don't need slavery to be invented by europeans for it to be bad that the europeans industrialized an already horrible practice

[@zoyadulzura7490]

It's easier for her to argue against a made-up position than to argue against the truth.

[@iPig]

"I'm not racist! I have a black friend!" The black friend:

[@Smoothbrain-nvrm]

😭

[@Ida-baby]

😂😂😂lmao factual

[@TJ-hg6op]

She is teamkilling bro

[@Shujaa24]

LMFAO 😂

[@horamsential]

LOL

[@dragoa6257]

They would all go quiet if they were asked "if slavery is good, why not be a slave yourself?".

[@christophersnedeker]

Well they didn't say slavery was good.

[@johnx140]

Who is saying slavery is good? Tipical leftist saying lies and being pos.

[@madeline6951]

​@@christophersnedekerthey sure do argue a lot that it wasn't bad

[@chromaland5518]

They’d all go quiet because that’s a stupid question that nobody’s asking.

[@SBCDeep]

Their argument is more in the line of: "peedough has benefits because it helps a child to mature." In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they said that next.

[@howdyfriends7950]

9:25 i love how she just doesn't acknowledge the 30 year gap between UK and USA ending slavery, during which time basically every country on earth also ended slavery peacefully, meanwhile the USA had to fight a civil war over it

[@tangyblueberry5013]

Now look at the duration in which slavery was legal in the UK vs America.

[@knotsoangelic]

Civil war wasn’t over slavery, though, it was over secession rights

[@BingusLover45]

​@@knotsoangelicwhile technically it was fought above preserving the union, think about why they seceded. Now, before you say it, I know about the states rights conflict, but what about bleeding Kansas? People were already being killed over slavery before the civil war started, so I'd say the civil war was mostly about slavery.

[@netmantis7387]

@@BingusLover45 Mostly would be correct, however there were severe economic concerns that tended to dovetail with whether a state was slave or free. One of those was import tariffs. Despite the fact that the importation of slaves had been banned for years at the time of the civil war, the slave states with their weak manufacturing base had difficulty trading their agricultural goods due to the tariffs imparted by the industrialized free states. This made trade goods worth less and further weakened slave states economically. Trading to a pure domestic market was difficult due to the low domestic demand and the fact that free states would also engage in agriculture. When it came to ending slavery in the US, there was little actual argument about whether it needed to end or not. Most wanted to see an end. The problem came with how that end was to come about. Simply declare all slaves as free? This could be declared unconstitutional as a government seizure of property without warrant or just cause. Hilarious to our modern sensibilities, but at the time it was a real and valid concern. Then what to do with the sudden influx of now unemployed free people? Their former masters could exploit them, "Company Store" style, into slavery in all but name. The free states had that for years, where poor people were enslaved to work in factories, generations of them forced to work and die while building debt that the factory owner used to force work or imprisonment. Many, even in the free states, weren't sure slaves were any more mature and mentally competent than children. That these people needed someone to watch over them and keep them from mischief. Few who encountered people of color on the regular held such notions, but in the free states those encounters were rare. Should the government just buy and free all the slaves? Why should Pennsylvania pay for Virginia's sins? It was suggested that a date be set and anyone born afterwards would be free. While this meant an end to slavery, it was the sort of slow end that meant if slave states got a majority in congress that date could be forever pushed back. Another five years due to improper preparedness. Another ten due to the logistics. A common tactic in congress to this day. Finally, there was the admittance of states to the union. In regards to balance, there was an agreement to only admit a slave and free at once in order to keep one side from oppressing the other. And when a territory was being settled, abolitionists and slaveowners would send people in to attempt to settle and force the vote to one side or the other for their own particular causes. A slave state was a market for slaves coming out of Virginia. A free state was another voice towards forcing the will of the free states upon the slave states and enslaving the latter to the former on a national level. Imagine if we had a Republican government. House, Senate and President along with a conservative majority in the Supreme Court. Would you feel your interests are being served in such a government? Would you feel ok with changes implemented to things such as election laws, government regulation and labor laws? And how would you feel if when you voiced your disagreement you were told it was just because you are evil and don't understand we need to do this for human rights? The Confederate States of America had as a part of their constitution the fact that the federal government could not abolish slavery. It also had that no slaves could be imported or exported. And did not ban the states from abolishing the practice of slavery on their own. It was an answer to the federal government attempting to enforce the will of some upon others. That doesn't make it right, but it is important that it is understood.

[@knotsoangelic]

@@netmantis7387 @WhoWatchesThis (not sure if tagging works on youtube, but this reply is very important and the person i tagged needs to see it.)

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Ah yes, Columbus "discovered" the New World....if people are, y'know, ALREADY THERE, then he didn't discover it! It's frustrating to see these people not understand that just because someone else did it, doesn't mean it's okay when Americans did it! Candace really is so full of herself. But I'd like to add: Hideyoshi was not Emperor, though he certainly had all the power in the time he ruled Japan. He was a Daimyo who became Chancellor of the Realm and Imperial Regent and effectively ruled as Shogun but never held it officially. However, because Hideyoshi was born a peasant, he could not claim the title of Shogun and so abolished it. He ruled Japan as the "Taiko." A position he invented and was the sole occupant in Japanese history. The Emperor throughout Hideyoshi's reign was Emperor Go-Yōzei. Though as above, he was mainly a symbolic figurehead enjoying tea, bonsai, and calligraphy, rubberstamping whatever the Taiko or Shogun needed.

[@averagefoundationguard3846]

Thank you, comrade Kim

[@Gamesux421]

"slavs, all white by the way" *smiles* okay thanks for the insightful comment candace, i fail to see how this lessens the severity of the effects of american slavery though tho.

[@timothymclean]

Well you see, the effects of American slavery largely manifest in America's culture of white supremacy. This means that the history of American slavery comes up a lot in discussions of modern racism. This PragerU video is responding to those discussions more than it's responding to anything historical. Bringing up the fact that not all slavery was white dudes enslaving black dudes builds a narrative that slavery has nothing to do with race. And if you look at the history of mankind in general, this is kinda true; every racial group recognized in the modern world enslaved members of every other racial group they could reach at some point or another. PragerU wants you to take this quasi-factual framework and apply it to the specific case of American slavery, and come to the conclusion that systemic racism stemming from centuries of racist slavery is just a silly idea...even though that framework only holds -water- large pebbles if you focus on the vague idea of people owning other people, since the specific case of American slavery was _absolutely_ white dudes enslaving black dudes (and black ladies, and a few other POC when they could get their hands on them).

[@Gamesux421]

@@timothymclean i appreciate that you took the time to write all that but i didnt actually need a genuine explaination

[@knavishknight]

Norse raiders who captured, enthralled, and sold Slavs back then did not even see themsleves nor Slavs as "white".

[@alansmithee419]

@@timothymclean "only holds -water- large pebbles" Thank you for this joke.

[@madeline6951]

​@@knavishknightfun fact as a Ukrainian: right up until 2015 some Europeans were unironically arguing if we were white 💀

[@glitchxero4687]

"...as we see, other people did slavery before America. So don't blame America for its own practice of slavery, or the legacy of racism, disproportionate imprisonment, disenfranchisement, and other oppressions that remained even after slavery was abolished. And don't even mention the native peoples, other people also did genocide before America too."

[@netmantis7387]

Just remember that when you are crafting your chants and educating people on your cause, white people were the ones who are responsible. It was white people who are unique in their commitment to slavery. Only white people can be racist, so calling someone a Bleach Demon is perfectly justified and definitely not racist. White people are the root cause of these problems, to the point that it may be genetic to them. And all white people are responsible, whether they were here at the time or not, because they all benefit from the legacy.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

The almighty whataboutism, the uno Reverso of disingenuous debating.

[@patrickporter1864]

Slavery is indeed not the usa original sin. What fits in that category is racism and Jim crow.

[@ThePopo543]

Doctor: "Uncle Ruckus rule 63 isn't real, she can't hurt you." Uncle Ruckus rule 63:

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

I'm stealing that description, thank you.

[@Chaotic_evil_duck]

102% black with a 2% margin of error. This can't be!

[@z.s.7992]

the fact they had candace owens produce this and put this in her book is so insidious.

[@hmnhntr]

Sadly, I doubt they had to force her from what I've seen of her elsewhere

[@z.s.7992]

@@hmnhntr yeah...she is the dave rubin of black folks

[@debil_2302]

the moment prageru is presented by a minority you KNOW you're about to hear the most bigoted take on the minority in question you've ever heard

[@EyeoftheU]

"See? Our black friend (that we paid a lot of money to hang out with us) agrees with us! That means we're totally not racist!"

[@helloworlditskiwi]

its absolutely a choice

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

"But your honor, people have been murdering other people since the dawn of time! I was only doing what everyone else was doing!"

[@mylesleggette7520]

Considering how that is a regular defense used by the so-called victims of slavery in the US to justify their violence toward each other, I think you are not mocking who you intend to mock...

[@joeydrew528]

@@mylesleggette7520I have never heard that defense to justify modern violent crimes. Can you show me someone who said that?

[@duck2434]

@@joeydrew528 very common argument against the “fraction of population half of crimes” argument. They will say that black people have to commit those crimes because those around them were.

[@ND-nr6mx]

​@duck2434 If I understand the deeply ignorant point you're trying to make, one of the many parts you're leaving out is that people suffering poverty are forced into terrible conditions and thus more likely to commit criminalized acts out of desperation. As far as violent acts, extreme numbers of white households experience physical, verbal, and sexual abuse between family members but those often go unreported - the truth is it's simply a matter of which communities are more frequently policed, and which populations are more likely to receive legal punishment.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

@@duck2434 Doing crime because you weren't taught any better isn't the same as doing crime for the thrill of it, or some other superficial reason. Of course they're both liable for their actions, but one party had much less resource and guidance on how to do the right things than the other.

[@toxic_shr00m]

"slavery always existed therefore it's okay" why do they always say this

[@thirdwheel9938]

It's more of a "my dear white American ancestors didn't invent slavery can we forgive them already 🥺" thing, which is still bullshit btw

[@jerrykim7777]

original vid didn't say anything even remotely close to that

[@Adonisius_Kavata]

​@jerrykim7777 They didnt say it, but they did a whole lot of deflecting by mentionig everyone elses fault in it to make themselves seem better

[@shreveweaver602]

"A Short History of Slavery, presented by Candance Owens" I literally shouted "oh God no"

[@leodunexxxl]

Candace Owens really trynna switch sides bro talm bout sum 👩🏿👩🏾👩🏽👩🏼👩🏻

[@HexaflexagonFan]

@@leodunexxxl she's literally uncle rukcus

[@lxmesoda]

​@@HexaflexagonFanfr 💀

[@ObsidianWinters]

​@@HexaflexagonFan Ong 😭☠️

[@HexaflexagonFan]

@@leodunexxxl NOT SWITCHING SIDES, ONLY SWITCHING ANGLES

[@xDYST0P14x]

I like how Candace just skips over the fact that America was literally among the last places to end slavery Edit: I was wrong, the us ranks very middle of the road, with somewhere around 40 countries banning slavery before 1865 iirc. Though an argument could still be made that slavery hasn’t been completely abolished in the us because of the 13th amendement allowing for slave labor in prisons. However my point that Candace is being disingenuous by posing the us as a pioneer for abolitionist movements still stands.

[@fatcat5817]

Heard it goes by a different name today: Human trafficking. (Aww doesnt sound so bad, not to hurt peoples feelings/actually piss people off 🤗) Africa, especially Somalia has seen reported to have the highest modern day enslavement in the world. 😬

[@xDYST0P14x]

@@JMObyx but that’s not what Candace was talking about. She was talking about the first countries that abolished slavery. If she was talking about relativity she wouldn’t have been so vague when referring to the US abolition. She deliberately excluded the date and ranking of the US because it contradicts her narrative that white people are somehow how some kind of saviors rather than the oppressors who were upholding slavery, especially the slave owners in America. She’s just trying to downplay the cruelty of slavery.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@fatcat5817 that is if your ignore the arabic world. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Yemen...

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@xDYST0P14x She also fudged the date for France... they abolished slavery during the revolution, 1790-something. Only for Napoleon then to bring it back and trying also to reconquer Haiti with one of his family members leading the expedition that failed miserably... After that he was pissed off with the costly american colonial empire and sold Lousiana (which was supposed to grow the food for the slaves harvesting sugarcane on Haiti and which actually had already been sold to Spain forty years earlier in a secret treaty) to Jefferson. They needed to demand it back from freshly vanquishes spain to then switch ownership to the US of A... only a handful of Islands and Guyana remained french colonies, cutting down the costs to defend and maintain it drastically. Slavery then stayed legal until the next empire.

[@cryo311]

she’d probably go “but if it wasn’t for america, slavery wouldn’t end,” assuming she suddenly forgets about sharia law but something tells me she wouldn’t

[@rachelthompson7487]

It’s weird. Almost like she’s trying to defend American slavery…and the people who owned them. Pretty gross

[@tktspeed1433]

I too do hate rich people, a certain Austrian man also hated rich people

[@cameronschyuder9034]

@@tktspeed1433 It's not about hating rich people. It's hating rich SCUMMY people. If I am thinking of the same Austrian man you are thinking of, then he and these "rich people" have the scumminess in common -- and by that, I mean a disregard for human life in all its forms

[@AmberVivicide]

Where did you hear her defending it? 😂 Saying its happened everywhere since recorded history is simply a fact, taking it any deeper and twisting it sounds like a YOU problem.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@AmberVivicideshe implies the USA was one of the first to abolish it, when it hasn’t even truly abolished it. There’s still the Slave Labour in prisons, wage slavery, child labour {technically not slavery, but still has those undertones} and so on.

[@HOI4notsoproplayer]

Correcional, penal labour is not slavery given the fact the subject was given a choice of not comitting s crime, while the conditions of work still apply rewards for the work, wage slavery (in the US) is pratically non-existant and is, more of a exception then rule, reslly not a big deal at all, chilf labour is illegal by most means, unless you somehow convince the local legislature the 10 years old is a qualified worker you will either get emprisioned or just destroyed by bills, making it pratically impossible to occur. Nonetheless america has already abolished slavery by all possible means, unless you somehow cover the entirety of society with magic, irrelevant cases will happen. And im pretty sure most of the aegument is Just that slaves didint build any country and mostly held it back, which is true, no slavery-dependent country ever succeeded, just look at the US, free state and slave state divisions in economic powere@@Aaa-vp6ug

[@ImpureVessel46]

You know it's bad when they condense a topic like slavery into 5 minutes

[@thirdwheel9938]

WHAT. THE ORIGINAL VIDEO WAS 5 MINUTES LONG?? THESE PEOPLE AREN'T SERIOUS WTF 💀

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

​@@thirdwheel9938 I'd say PragerU is the McDonald's of education, but even McDonald's is at least filling and generally tastes alright.

[@weatherman1504]

@@Rad-Dude63andathird PragerU is like, imagine a world where McDonald's is the highest tier of food possible, then imagine what that world's version of McDonald's is like.

[@expertarcher8542]

There are other education apps that’ve done the same thing. I don’t know why it’s such a big deal

[@estebanod]

That’s the point of vulgarization, at university in social studies you’re often asked to do this as assignment, I’d know unfortunately.

[@tetsujin_144]

25:28 "She claims her purpose here is to tell the truth" It's true! Her purpose is indeed to tell the truth, about a carefully selected collection of facts, framed in a way designed to lead people to an incorrect conclusion.

[@jacoblinde7486]

But she couldn't even do that right. She said that the UK was the first country to abolish slavery, even though that is flat-out false.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@jacoblinde7486if anything, it was 1 of the last to do such

[@gavinjenkins899]

@@jacoblinde7486 I'm still not sure who was first? The host of the video convincingly challenged his own first example (Japan), and then his second example (Haitians) he said was people who formed a country after revolting against slavery, but he didn't even actually ever CLAIM that they outlawed slavery afterward. ...DID they? Maybe they did, but he was extremely weirdly vague about it, and did a terrible job explaining it, if so. Your country being formed as a result of a slave revolt (which is all he mentioned) does not necessarily mean you then did or did not subsequently outlaw slavery.

[@czeianamiguel5543]

You mean she bends the truth?

[@tales527]

Does that count as lying by omission?

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

I know this is nitpicking, but "gin and mirrors" are not at all trivial trade items. Outside of being a popular drink in England (even eclipsing brandy) it was also used as medicine to treat lumbago, gallstones and various other "gut" problems. Good glass mirrors were highly desired throughout the ages and the best at the time techniques of production were from the 16th century, so it wasn't like Europeans were buying slaves for worthless trinkets, those were expensive goods by themselves. That said, I find it very ironic she uses the Union Army and how they were instrumental in ending slavery, when PragerU believes the Civil War was simply for "states' rights"....states' rights to do WHAT? Smh, their declarations literally mention slavery! And thank you for briefly mentioning the British Museum....the British really saw the rest of the world, pulled a Grievous and said, "This will make a fine addition to my collection". Besides the Benin Bronzes, the Elgin Marbles, and of course the Rosetta Stone, another thing in their collection is the moai Hoa Hakananai'a. The thing is, NYC's American Museum of Natural History is more famous for having a moai since it appeared in Night at the Museum, but that one isn't real! The NYC one is a FIBERGLASS CAST of one created during a 1930s expedition! The one at the British Museum is REAL! The only time an actual Moai appeared in NYC was in 1968 as a part of a protest to oppose a jet refueling facility on Easter Island

[@Marscandy1]

“And often times, they were sold for trivial items, such as life-saving medicines or priceless items…”

[@rocketsfan05]

I think we're missing the main issue here: conservatism is all about maintaining the status quo. Ergo slavery was just because it was part of a god-ordained natural order where might makes right.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Yupp. all about the "natural order". KNOW YOUR PLACE. Which is ironical if you consider that Candace is above average pigmented AND of female persuasion, two factors which put her rather low in that assumed pecking order...

[@tristanband4003]

A few things are jumbled up there, but it does kind of resolve itself into might makes right.

[@HeWhoLaugths]

These people aren't conservatives, they're american crazies

[@electricangel4488]

Well that doesnt seem to ecompass conservatisme as americans use it and the morality of might is right isnt a justification. But there is an appeal to what makes money will be justified is just human logic. The original video is seemingly trying to add context not justifie.

[@AbandonedVoid]

@@electricangel4488 I appreciate your attempt to try to see the best in others, but I think it might be misguided here

[@TSteffi]

Well, many cultures did practice slavery. But the only people I see out on KZbin making apologetic videos about how slavery wasn't that bad, the only people I see doing that are american "conservatives"

[@coca_0146]

Unfortunately Brasillians conservatives do that as well.

[@turkoositerapsidi]

USA slavery was bad, but it was not good in other places either. It's not like slaves in all other places did had rights.

[@BlackWolf207]

Conservatives are not making apologetic videos about how slavery wasn't that bad lmao. There is literally someone in this very comment section saying slavery in ancient Egypt was not that bad because slaves were treated well lmao.

[@Malachite7]

@@BlackWolf207 No, conservatives don't make apologetic videos about how slavery wasn't that bad- they make them about how AMERICAN slavery wasn't that bad. I mean, what else should we take away from this PragerU video? "White people didn't invent slavery!" "Columbus actually helped Taino slaves!" "The word 'slave' comes from a word for a white ethnic group!" "Slavery's always existed!" "White people actually ended slavery!" "White people died in the Civil War to end slavery!" "Everyone's done horrible things throughout history!" "Africans weren't doing any better before they were colonized!" "Africans sold each other into slavery!" "White people didn't even catch slaves themselves!" "There's still slavery- it's in Africa, not America, and it affects even more people!" "Black victimhood is just pushed by greedy race hustlers!" Weirdly, they never say anything like "White people were involved in slavery," "The slavery that occurred in the Americas was bad," etc. that actually admits how bad American slavery was. Just stuff that draws attention away from it. It isn't outright denial, but it sure is something, isn't it? Don't you think some acknowledgements are due in 'A Short History of Slavery'?

[@ShursGarden]

@@BlackWolf207 I was gonna say "That doesn't really matter much considering that the KZbin Comment Section is so damn big" but I *literally* saw the post you're talking about right under this comment so

[@RGC_animation]

You can immediately tell what kind of "documentary" it's going to be when they immediately start shifting blame of slavery instead of, you know, explaining what slavery is.

[@Chaotic_evil_duck]

"B-b-b-but others did it first"

[@expertarcher8542]

Because everyone knows what slavery is. It’s practically drilled into us.

[@cherrypopscile3385]

"The slavs we're originally captured by the Muslims, before being taken by the Turks" This implies that either the Turks were not muslims, or that there was an empire named "The Muslims"

[@MrMarinus18]

Well actually there was an empire of the Muslims. Islam started out as a nomadic empire similar to the Mongols however while they did assimilate to some extent their religion survived and influenced the regions they conquered. In some ways you can compare the Muslim conquest to those of Alexander who also conquered non-Greek regions and after his empire fractured it left behind states that were a blend of their old identity and the new Greek one. The notion of an Islamic state though never went away and has been claimed many times.

[@knavishknight]

@@MrMarinus18 "Well actually there was an empire of the Muslims" Just type Rashidun Caliphate! Urgh...

[@razi_man]

​@@MrMarinus18This is the most blatant history rewriting bullshit I have ever seen, "thE mUslIms" isn't a single fucking monolith, this is like saying "thE chrIstIAns" to refer to the fucking crusade. I can say "white people are genociders" using this logic.

[@HarutoVa]

@@MrMarinus18 muslims are the people who believe in the islamic religion. Those you are talking about are the 4 rashidins which were after the prophet, and later on different kinds of empire came in but they were all arabs and muslims not only muslims.

[@lawrencerutherford4260]

the turks they are referring to are likely the early turks such as the Uyghur Khaganate who were of a Zoroastrian religion

[@PocketDeerBoy]

it's always so funny to me when conservatives start asking to consider the history of places that are not america when discussing how american history. My brother in christ i wasn't taught anything about the mongols and needless to say their impact is not felt as much as the trans-atlantic slave trade. It's a weird non-sequitor whatabout-ism

[@MrMarinus18]

There also is a lot of demonization of "illegal migrants" but the most common way they happen is by foreign workers coming in and companies trapping them in the US via all kinds of legal loopholes. This puts them in a position of extreme vulnerability which means they can be paid poverty wages. Most illegal migrants actually didn't enter as illegal migrants but they became illegal migrants because their work visa ran out. So ironically it was legal for them to enter but it's illegal for them to leave. It actually kind of is a dance that the political right does since they claim to hate illegal migrants but they don't actually want to stop it cause their corporate donors love them. After all if you can hire migrants who you can sent to prison on a whim you can avoid having to deal with unionized workers.

[@chromaland5518]

The trans Atlantic slave trade isn’t felt today, especially in the Americas.

[@box_is_real]

yes, because there's absolutely no racism or people who still think slavery is just fine, absolutely none at all in america, definitely/s

[@iseeundeadpeople9]

@@chromaland5518 Yes, it is.

[@sadboijokes]

@@chromaland5518that’s just dishonest.

[@sugargutsYT]

I'm bi-racial (Black/White) and getting my DNA ancestry was more depressing than it was enlightening. A map of my ancestors paths to America was literally just a map of the colonial slave trade... My black grandpa's name is MG, named after his grandfather-- thought it stood for like Michael George or something, nah, that was how his master named his property: two letters. The only paperwork I had from that side of the family was a slave roster with MG listed and a census years later that listed him as MG Mabens, "Colored." Pretty sure he would've been freed before he turned 13 but it's still pretty gross to think the father of my great grandma (who only recently passed) was born a slave, and people try to say that shit has no bearing on our modern society.

[@sharrkan9177]

I wonder how Americans can so fucking terribly misunderstand our own history sometimes, as an American history and secondary education major. At least in my state, everything PragerU got terribly wrong is basic curriculum. Perhaps I was just fortunate enough to have a teacher that actually understood the topic?

[@mmrw]

Oh please do not be so generous, it is not a “misunderstanding.” It’s an extremely deliberate attempt to make the country look better, basically only occurring in the southern states for obvious reasons. It’s also not true that it’s an American thing-every country does this to some extent, and some do so to arguably a worse extent than the US in fact

[@schloomy]

do you live in florida?

[@peomaster6914]

The more ignorant are usually also the louder ones my pal, don't generalize

[@xryeau_1760]

Tyrants profit off of misinformation, and a lot of people in the USA are wannabe tyrants who are one political movement away from becoming full blown fascists

[@seanmcmurphy4744]

The reason this is occurring now, along with Trump's presidency, hyperpolarization, election denial, right wing militias, the Great Replacement theory, QAnon, Christian Nationalism, the antivaxx movement, Covid conspiracy theories, cancel culture, chemtrails, and most other recent problems, is the huge historic change in our information ecosystem around 2005 due to social media. We have abandoned reliable sources of information for digital rumor mills. We allow secret algorithms owned by huge Silicon Valley monopolies to decide what appears on our screens, feeding us whatever we want to believe, turning us into extremists, in order to make more profits. This is not freedom of speech, it is behavior mod. It is literally impossible for an ordinary citizen to tell truth from lies.

[@MrMarinus18]

22:15 They also need the vote. The large US prison population is also a tool to manipulate elections since prisoners count as citizens in the area where the prison is located but they can't actually vote. So prisoners are a useful tool to make conservative opinions appear more common than they actually are.

[@cryochick9044]

That is uhh. Unconstitutional Iirc even if you are imprisoned you still should be allowed and given the chance to vote.

[@gimmethegepgun]

@@cryochick9044 The constitution doesn't prohibit disenfranchisement of prisoners.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@cryochick9044 It's not. It should be unconstitutional but it it isn't. That's not the only thing about prisoners though, they also can be used for forced labor. Prisoners in the US have the same status as slaves. Quite literally, when slavery was still around prisoners and slaves were essentially the same thing. While slavery has been abolished the rules around prisoners have not really been reformed.

[@todo9633]

That sounds like a horrible idea. Why on earth would you want people currently in prison to have the ability to vote? Obviously the swing issue for them would be getting out of prison as soon as possible, and that would be a disaster for any democratic process.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@todo9633 They are still not enough of the population to do that for one. Another big reason is that this will punish politicians for locking people up rather than helping communities by losing votes. Finally it will mean locking people up can no longer be used as a means of voter suppression. I don't think prisoners would be a large enough group to outvote other people when it comes to reduced sentencing. But they likely would vote for those who promise to uplift impoverished areas and improve conditions in prisons. Finally there is a moral argument here in that taking away people's right to vote is against what America is supposed to be. Even the sinful deserve to have their voices heard.

[@RadioballZ129]

i hate how a person witha DDLC avatar is better at teaching people about slavery than the educational system of the UK

[@thirdwheel9938]

The internet is a wild place. I've truly seen it all

[@expertarcher8542]

No education system is without issue. Even this guy has some points that were not fully explained.

[@scribbles3721]

I learnt about slavery in a uk school in year 8…. even how horrible they themselves were to their colonies .. what are you talking about?

[@pavelZhd]

The notion of "Egyptians were not black but white" is usually initiated around one particular ruler of Egypt whom contemporaries regarded as very beautiful. Cleopatra. But here's the thing - Cleopatra was not really Egyptian. Like having a nation be ruled by someone not of this nation might sound surprising but in the times before nationalism or the comcept of "nation" was invented, this was common place. So Cleopatra was of Greek descent and thus not black but Egyptian people were black. Or brown. Which depending on how specific your definitions are might or might not be considered black.

[@timothymclean]

Eh... What race modern people would identify Cleopatra as is uncertain and kinda pointless. Not because she was unrepresentative of the Egyptian people, but because it's missing the more important point that modern racial categories didn't exist in the first century BCE. Or for most of the common era, either.

[@Harold046]

Hmm, nope, that's not at all what's this is about. Egyptians are "white" because the ethnic differences of the modern world don't apply to ancient egypt, and calling people white or black using today's standard doesn't make much sense. However, the people who came into Egypt (usually as invaders), ranked from palest to darkest skin tones, were from North Africa, Levant and Nubia. The egyptian were mixed, but mostly pale skinned.

[@todo9633]

@@timothymclean ?? Modern categories might not have existed, but contemporary ones absolutely did, and the people of the time cared quite a bit about these distinctions, so they're important n understanding historical context.

[@vixxcelacea2778]

I hate the whole "white and black" are the only race narrative. Egyptians, Hebrews and Palestine's are all of the same base group called Canaanites. They're closer to Middle Eastern/North Africans and are neither white nor black by current definitions of race (which is already super loose.). There were plenty of blacks in Egyptian history because Egypt actually had a lot of variation depending on which period you are looking at. It's like there are more races than white and black, but when the narrative is so insanely racist everything devolves into one side and another. Like politics or other binary ways of thinking. It's so incredibly unhelpful. And this gets even more ridiculous when people think race means anything. My race and all it's ills and triumphs aren't mine just because of the melanin level in my skin. I hold no commonality or comradery with someone due to something as innocuous as race. I'm not my parents or my gender or sex or sexuality. I'm me and so is everyone else.

[@BestMster]

Actually a majority of Egypt is neither black or white but Muslim

[@masterbaiter9856]

She seems so happy to say human misery for some master that exploits because xyz was the norm for 1000s of years. Surely she can understand why its bad? No! OK.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

She and her Prager U overlords LOVE capitalism, which is in a lot of ways the continuation of misery under different conditions.

[@netmantis7387]

It isn't that it is bad, but that it is normalized to the point few see anything wrong with it. If you tell someone they shouldn't be working 40+ hours a week in a job they hate for a paycheck that doesn't pay their bills, and that they should remove themselves from such a system in an attempt to starve it out you will be met with incredulity. "How do you expect me to live?" is what you will be asked. Because working 40+ hours a week at a job you hate is normalized. Everyone does it, it is just how things are. When you want to judge people of the past who are a product of their time by the standards of today, just remember that you are an inhuman monster to someone a thousand years from now for what you have said and done. I have no idea currently what that may be that is so offensive, but odds are something we do now be it industrial agriculture, living in cities, driving personal vehicles or living within or outside of communal homes is horrifying to people of the future.

[@EpicMinecraftFail]

​@@netmantis7387I understand it being normalized but people in the modern era trying to downplay it and act like it's something we should just forget about are the main issue

[@netmantis7387]

@EpicMinecraftFail It isn't downplaying, but providing context. The hardest thing to do is to stand up against something everyone else doesn't see a problem with. Especially when there is no good solution for the most part. Personal internal combustion engines are bad. They pollute the atmosphere and contribute to climate change. If someone was protesting that we need to give up our cars, lawnmowers, weedwhackers and generators today for the sake of the environment that person would be laughed at for being an extremist. Everyone all over the world uses internal combustion engines daily. Farms run on them, Construction demands them, even the mining necessary for electrics cannot run without either engines or slavery. There is no clear way towards abolishment. Especially since you would have many families in debt paying for something the government confiscated. That is what Candice is trying to bring context to. The US wasn't a lone slave nation in the world. It was common at the time. Hell, Benin, the African nation mentioned for its lovely bronze plaques defined itself through brutal slavery and raiding neighbors for slaves until the English put a stop to it by force.

[@EpicMinecraftFail]

@@netmantis7387 No shit, everyone knows the US wasn't the only one doing it, that doesn't mean we should sweep it under the rug and act like what happened had no long lasting consequences, an engine is not comparable to the lives of others.

[@ppals3345]

10:30 actually, sweden (or what would become sweden) abolished slavery during the transition from the iron age ("viking age") to the medieval age in around 1000s-1300s

[@das8.kapitel260]

I heard that it was also seen as unworthy to treat a slave badly before that. I know that "bad" highly depends on the context. But still

[@MrDeadhead1952]

For Candice's benefit according to the Christian Bible slavery was invented by the Christian God who laid down rules for who and how people could be enslaved and once enslaved how they and their families should be treated.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

AFTER the book tells how Israel's offspring had been enslaved for 400 years ;) Or after Abram and Sarai owned "handmaidens" (wink wink nudge nudge)

[@thunderspark1536]

@@Ugly_German_Truths Was that before or after God told them to go kill the men of another tribe and take the virgin women as theirs?

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

​@@Ugly_German_Truthsforgive me if im understanding this wrong, this could be satire (no thanks to apologists) but...are you genuinely saying its only bad if israel gets enslaved. You might not but idk

[@rigpa10]

@@Ugly_German_Truths if god created every thing then he created slavery - use your brain before commenting

[@stmp4160]

It was not "invented" by the Christian God according to the Bible? Unless I'm forgetting something from prior books. The Jews were first enslaved by Egypt before God instructed them on how to conduct slavery, no?

[@TobyTopF]

US prisons basically operate modern day indentured servitude in the form of convict labour, which is nasty and inhuman in its own right. But the point I prefer is that she specifically mentions that the modern African slavery happened in the region historically associated with the Triangular Trade. This is funny because you can probably guess who provided the modern practice of slavery in Africa just from that alone. Not to mention European Imperialism and tearing up of ethnic groups within Africa being responsible for much of the violence today.

[@InsufficientGravitas]

I'm sure that the US backed coups in places like the Congo didn't help either.

[@rickkroll]

​@@InsufficientGravitasLibya as well. Im sure more african countries have been affected by the USA than have not been affected

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@TobyTopF the african contributors also often acted out of self preservation as the european ships that came to acquire slaves to sell int he Americas would not leave empty. If nobody sold them slaves they would ransack the coastal areas under the protection of their guns and TAKE slaves. Many chose to instead make that a "other tribes" problem and waged war to have slaves to sell to them. It's dishonest to pretend they would have done that just as much if no europeans were there to buy them. (or to pretend the sellers could just demand any price they REALLY wanted... it's called a triangle trade for a reason... Africa provided the slaves, which were used in the americas to produce raw materials to be brought to Europe where they were turned into complete goods, with which then in Africa new slaves were bought... as one of the most important slave made goods was sugar from the sugar cane, producing rum out of it was an important part of the trade, thus buying slaves for "alcohol")

[@andpeg]

@@InsufficientGravitasAnd Liberia started off as a send-them-back-to-Africa nation, which caused a conflict between the new (mostly mixed) American ruling class and the native peoples of the region. They themselves, who were freed slaves, started slavery in the nation because they were indoctrinated with the information that they were better than the “uncivilized” Africans because they were assimilated into the European society or/and because they often times looked more white. There is still conflict between the minority class descended from the American colonists and the majority native people. And some people truly believe that we aren’t effected by slavery in the modern world.

[@gaijinbroken6571]

this is what happens when you don't teach kids about history, or human nature

[@doodlesyoru2108]

16:13 Not to mention, Mansa Musa III was also the richest man this world has ever seen. He literally caused an economic crisis in Egypt due to getting too carried away in buying souvenirs during his Hajj.

[@Bennick323]

All we should really have to say is: 1. American slavery really happened. 2. American slavery was bad. 3. American slavery formed the foundation for locking out generations of African Americans from huge amounts of economic mobility/success. PU/Candace's points on this topic are largely diversionary, as you pretty much made the point with the Armenian Genocide analogy. I really do appreciate the history lessons, which were genuinely interesting and insightful and I think more than adequately counter their points, but in the grand scheme of things, this whole thing is kind of irrelevant. Whether or not "white people invented slavery" is irrelevant. Whether or not Japan did it at some point is irrelevant. Historical, racist institutions that existed in the US, including slavery, caused intergenerational, systemic obstacles for the vast majority of African Americans. QED. Again, I'm not saying I think your video is bad or unwarranted... I suppose I'm just an old (28yo) man, sleep-deprivation-addled at work, yelling at Dennis Prager-shaped clouds for how easily I feel PragerU brings up shit that just plain doesn't matter and distracts from the actual question at hand. Conservatives thrive on distraction and I do kind of wonder exactly how much value there is in chasing them down those roads and tangents all the way. Disregard my rant if you want. I'm sleepy and mad.

[@GigasGMX]

​@@soujemn5 Look at this absolute moron who somehow hasn't heard of segregation or Jim Crow laws.

[@bananasplit4391]

⁠@@soujemn5”bad compared to what” lol. You could not sound less like a slavery apologist. Morality is subjective, so i would love to hear your argument against “slavery is bad.” American slavery wasn’t particularly bad, just that it was the worst form of slavery, chattel slavery combined with a obvious to identify feature which made it brutally effective to institutionalize. That’s all, nothing unique. point 3 someone else can put in the work, its gonna take a whole lot more to explain than point 2

[@Bennick323]

​@@soujemn5Account description: "Pepe did 9/11" Aiight. None of this is correct or meaningful enough to merit a serious response. Have fun rotting in irrelevance.

[@yourmom2189]

@@soujemn5dude, are you trolling? That was the craziest 💩 I’ve ever read!

[@freewilly1193]

​@@soujemn5go cope idiot

[@mushmush4980]

The best part is watching them chant "Give me freedom or give me death" without a second thought

[@inphanta]

What always astounds me about PragerU content is how emotional the delivery always sounds, no matter who is presenting it. It's certainly not what I'd expect from people who posit themselves as being only concerned with facts and truth.

[@Lost-Lilim]

The unstated part when a Conservative claims "facts don't care about your feelings" is (but they do care about mine).

[@Somerandomjingleberry]

“Our genuine passion for truth vs their blind appeals to emotion”

[@begaydocrime5719]

"africans didn't live like pharaohs" ah yes pharaohs. Which are famously not from the african continent.

[@NotCumin]

"What do you mean 'Egypt is in Africa?' Egyptians aren't black!"

[@KLOTEROLEROTAR]

To be fair, there was a lot of classism in Africa. However, the bottom rungs of society weren't treated bad. Slaves were actually respected and treated well in ancient Egypt unlike America. Hell, the slaves were among the only people in ancient egyptian society that were allowed to learn how to read and write. The Egyptians saw the ability to read and write as a gift from their gods and only royals and the slaves who constructed the stone that inscribed the history of Egypt were allowed to write. It's actually ridiculous how people try and say "oh but egyptians did slavery first" as a defense for american slavery, when Egyptian slavery and American slavery were night and day.

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

wait, so ya telling me we really *wuz* kangs??! welll sheeeeeit mayng, no wonder dem saw-coffin-cases was all blinged up n sheeeit. imagine dat tooty carmon poppin a cap 😂😂😂

[@andpeg]

Today, the only dynasty that ruled Egypt that would be considered Sub Saharan African was Kush (Kush is my favorite dynasty, they’re super underrated. ) So she’d still be wrong with her statement.

[@turkoositerapsidi]

Not all African people are Egyptian.

[@ninjasheep7492]

For around 500 years Egypt was literally run by slaves, most of whom were imported from the caucuses and Balkans. These Mameluke slaves would be educated from a young age by the state in both military and administrative manners and given positions of high rank within Muslim society. Even when literally becoming the ruling class of Egypt they still imported slaves, educated them, and then brought them into the top levels of the Egyptian military and administration without technically emancipating them. Slavery isn't identical across the board and new world plantation chattel slavery wasn't *THE* worst example but certainly was up there in severity. Also the first nationwide abolition of Slavery was in the Xin Dynasty of China in around 10 AD, this was coupled with radical land reform to try to reduce the power of aristocrats. 13 years later though the entire dynasty was overthrown by slavers and aristocrats.

[@dummy.2092]

Loving this ddlc+ content so far. Had no idea Natsuki was an activist!

[@Sh12pen]

😂

[@dogevoadoriii]

Isn't that he character that ends itself?

[@dragonslair951167]

In every movement that targets a group of people, there have always been some collaborators from that group who believe assimilation and appeasement will buy them safety and/or status. Some may even mistakenly believe that they are genuinely part of their oppressors' in-group. Candace Owens is one of these collaborators.

[@theRPGmaster]

Another leftist who doesn't think black people are smart or brave enough to speak for themselves. So many of you do this, and you still think you're the good guys. You're racist, yet you claim you're superior.

[@gaijinbroken6571]

slavery is human nature, it does not target a specific group of people

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

This applies everywhere, it's the reason so many poor Americans defend billionaires

[@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3]

"Africans didn't live like pharoahs!" Are we just gonna ignore that pharoahs are Egyptian... which is, y'know, in Africa...

[@skirmishj258]

Yeah, like some of them literally did. The pharoahs surely lived like pharoahs.

[@skunknoodles6426]

ONE COUNTRY and apparently everyone lived like Pharoahs

[@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3]

@@skunknoodles6426 "country" you just outed yourself as american

[@gwoogle3697]

also are we gonna ignore the fact that the richest man who ever lived was from africa?

[@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3]

@@AppleOfThineEye ????????????? how?!

[@thomaslayman9487]

id heard that prison slavery was a thing but like, i thought it was a loophole it's literally written into the amendment 😭

[@forest6008]

my biggest problem with this is that some people be like no one regardless of skin color is guiltless, but it should be no one regardless of skin color is guilty unless they themselves did it

[@AtanaaTheCurious]

There's a difference between fault/guilt and responsibility. If a small child has an infection that causes them to vomit, it probably isn't the parent's fault, but it's certainly their responsibility to care for the child and clean up the mess. We can be responsible for righting the continuing effects of slavery, without it having been our fault.

[@mirrors8913]

@@AtanaaTheCurious Some random joe can't change the slavery within the prison system. You can pin responsibility on whoever you like but they still won't do anything because they can't do anything.

[@Texan_BoyKisser]

@@AtanaaTheCuriousBut that's flipped, it's our (grand)parents that 'threw up'.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

@@mirrors8913 So... what about the government? I'm sure they have the power to, idk, dish out laws and stuff if they so please. There is a way, but if not enough of a ruckus happens, or if the right people are not appointed, then things will not be changed.

[@19Pyrus70]

​@@cameronschyuder9034 It doesn't matter what laws you create if the attitudes & beliefs that cause the behaviors you're trying to legislate away don't change: Laws were created saying slavery is illegal & discrimination is illegal at the federal level, but at the local level, officials turn a blind eye because they and/or those who support them still feel they should be allowed to use people like they are slaves & be allowed to decide which citizens can or cannot be treated like citizens.

[@alexdavidson7498]

20:54 let’s not forget that some states currently pay companies to use unpaid prison labor.

[@Benwut]

Also, it wasn't even the JAPANESE that abolished slavery first. The persians, under Cyrus the Great almost 2.5 thousand years ago, abolished unpaid slavery, and these paid slaves (some paid even better than shop owners) could work their way to freedom within a year or two.

[@gangrenousgandalf2102]

Cyrus was history's first bro

[@xxghost_userxx]

Cyrus the great? Nah, Cyrus the GOAT

[@tugsn.mccowan1634]

Candice is so full of herself.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Candace. It was literally on the screen for a couple of minutes *sigh*

[@Sableagle]

She's so full of Republican party propaganda that her eyes are brown.

[@Synth466]

​@@Ugly_German_Truthsno one gives a fuck

[@Zoey_767]

@iitianwannabeSay it.

[@banjofangirl3458]

​@@Zoey_767candace di-

[@knighter1209]

Based DDLC, based Natsuki, based shitting on PragerU Holy fuck this video is based

[@CaptainOctavian7482]

You know they chose Candice so they can use the “I’m not racist because a black person agrees” argument.

[@godzillavkk]

Candice is Quisling reincarnated.

[@Shujaa24]

You'll notice PragerU will use their black members as mouthpieces a lot when it comes to such topics lol

[@reedy_9619]

« If you disagree with me you’re not a true black person »

[@turquoisesnowflake4613]

The fact that I didnt know the slave class was very uniquely American is wild. I feel like the institution of slavery as it exsited in America verses other cultures beeds to be brought up so we understand how the economics effected America, specifically the farm lands of the American south.

[@commenteroftruth9790]

yeah its good for historical accuracy and understanding. do you think there should be something more out of it?

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

It isn't an American thing, exactly. It was more a European thing that their colonies and former colonies kept doing.

[@EpicMinecraftFail]

Do you believe only Americans had slave farmers?

[@banjofangirl3458]

​@@EpicMinecraftFailwere the only ones with A SLAVE CLASS. For centuries

[@EpicMinecraftFail]

@@banjofangirl3458 yeah dividing weather or not you were a slave based on if you were black or not is messed up on a different level i agree, I just said that because my country still has legal slavery technically

[@Snommelp]

She actually acknowledged that the Civil War was about slavery (if you squint), but no points for crossing that bar when I'm sure elsewhere she walks it back and pretends it was about northern aggression

[@Polaroids1]

Thanks this video reminded me that every two sided argument about politics is just flawed arguments on both sides grasping at straws

[@kiritosa8207]

Been scrolling for 7 minutes, best comment I found 👍

[@Graphomite]

"Pedohpilia was not invented by the secular Christian clergy. It was practiced by the Roman Empire, too. It was so common that Caligula considered it natural."

[@sfkeepay]

That’s not quite right. Ephebophilia (Puberty and older - around 14 ish and older) was common enough, in Rome, Greece, and Japan, among others. But I’m not aware of any ancient civilization that accepted actual pedophilia (pre-pubescent children) being routine - though I could easily be wrong. Unless you count girls as young as 9 being married off to much older Mormon guys, but that was in the U.S., and much more recent.

[@reedy_9619]

*cough* John Money. *cough* I could swear I heard someone being called. Must have been the wind.

[@Cheeseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

I think the point is that Europeans and their descendants should not be uniquely blamed for slavery, as it existed elsewhere. In other words, nobody should be blamed for slavery, or everybody should. A good example of non-European slavery is the Barbary Pirates.

[@reedy_9619]

Won’t get much traction here as you got no answers yet but the whole point of the conversation is to divide people and sow racism. Can’t blame anyone in particular, especially not today. Even if a people had done it it’s unethical to punish a people indiscriminately. And you can’t go back in time and fix it. On top of that it’s already recognised and considered as a stain on your history.. Saying "slavery bad " is neither controversial nor creative. It’s just marxists dividing to conquer so they can overthrow the current system and have a go at their own tried and proven slavery-driven totalitarian kleptocracy.

[@erl7466]

anyone saying they want to discuss the “truth” by whining about what “other people” think is not only annoying but a hallmark of modern american conservatism.

[@bonsaikittenmew]

Oh yeah fun fact about the “white men were the first to put an end to slavery” rhetoric is interesting when you consider that Abraham Lincoln’s decision to abolish slavery in the US was partially based on black abolitionists he met like Frederick Douglass convincing him to use abolition as a weapon in the Civil War

[@thomasoates3003]

12:07 also note how Candace glosses over the fact that the 13th Amendment contains a loophole that allowed effective slavery to continue well into the 20th Century in the United States. Edit: Posted this whilst still watching the video.

[@rigpa10]

she leaves out jim crow and redlining

[@tschichpich]

"It was white people fighting against slavery" Okay, you have a point but who fought for keeping slavery? Was this black slaves who just didn't want to be free?

[@madmouse4400]

No , it was black people back in Africa who wanted to keep slaves , like the Daome kingdom.

[@prophecybydefault4708]

​@@madmouse4400If you payed attention you'd know that slavery in Africa was nothing like slavery in the west. It wasn't race based, slaves could acquire wealth of their own and they were treated like actual human beings rather than cattle. In Europe, slaves were abused, raped and killed in masses. Black people were not allowed to acquire wealth or even keep their own kids.

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

​@@madmouse4400 AWAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF TRAITORS

[@maxvasquez2529]

@@madmouse4400 give me more examples that is one

[@maxvasquez2529]

@@madmouse4400 BUT WHY MUST WE JUSTIFY IT HUH? ITS GONE!!

[@Megan-ii4gf]

I have just found a political talk channel named Doki Doki Discourse. The internet is a powerful weapon.

[@rorygiambalvo2955]

Candace also fails to discuss the fact that slavery still happens in the USA, just not on an institutional scale. Migrant slave workers were held on Florida tomato farms as recently as the 2000s. It didn't look quite the same as African slavery, but targeted minority non-citizens and as such has distinct racial connotations of white supremacy.

[@ellentheeducator]

Also, the "non-white countries" makes an interesting thought - does that mean she sees America as a White Country? In which case... hoo boy that's a discomforting idea.

[@lefishe6611]

Literal white supremacists and natsoc sentiments

[@dayvancowboi9135]

Good video. The Dark Ages concept is not held in very high regard by most modern historical scholarship, I was surprised to see you invoke it like you did en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography) aside from that, well done.

[@DokiDokiDiscourse]

ah shoot, hadn't heard about this, thanks

[@RagerQueen]

12:08 "We are never told to consider-" Yes we are??? Do y'all not have World History over there??? I couldn't help but laugh at her 'umm slavery existed before Columbus achtually 🤓' speech like it was the most groundbreaking information you'll ever hear.

[@rigpa10]

candace is lying - we learn about world history and slavery in other places in school in the USA

[@Doggo2-fn8hu]

"You may think, some Africans lived like Pharoahs. But I'm said to say they didn't," is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Put her in front of a map show her Egypt and ask her who lived like Pharoahs then?

[@rigpa10]

candace is just reading from a script prageru gave her - she is an air head

[@CoyotesOwn]

Emperor Toyotomi Hideyoshi? Hideyoshi was many things, including the defacto ruler of Japan 1585 till his death, but he was not the Emperor (who had been a figurehead for close four centuries) nor was he a Shogun.

[@DustyHoney]

Before even watching the video, I know PragerU is going to pretend people didn’t know slavery was wrong. Which is just not true. Just because something is legal or practiced doesn’t mean people don’t understand that it’s wrong. It’s kind of like claiming people don’t know factory farming, fossil fuels, prison labor, etc. is wrong because it’s still legal.

[@tutubravo4285]

Candace's ancestors gotta be so pissed off right now lol

[@butlazgazempropan-butan11k87]

It is kinda ironic that slaves in some countries had more rights than workingnclass in others

[@emosunglasses5201]

No way I got a prager u ad on this video💀

[@Pfromm007]

I read one of the earliest translations of Columbus' journals, and not anywhere is cannibalism talked about. Instead, he went out of his way to mention that while enslaving, "Those girls between the ages of four and eight are in particular high demand." 😳Happy Columbus day?

[@doobbruh]

P Columbus?

[@SashaS-s2z]

Aristotle was among the most privileged and influential conservatives of his time, and can't be used as a median example. In his society, women had fewer rights than under Taliban. His friend and pupil committed two genocides (which was absolutely not "of the time"), among other things.

[@Quin_BNK]

Less rights than under taliban? Sure it was uncanny but heck, no way. Genocide? Which one? Of the armies who opposed them and had attacked their heartland first many times and razed cities? Mr questinable Alexander held the territories by carefully implementing measures that the inhabitants found ok; there were too many to be dealt with by force effectively. Dude you really need help right now

[@jairpoppelwell2120]

Next we will hear the tale of Diogenes great castle.

[@intothevoid1996]

Her calling slavic peoples "just white, by the way" is so disgustingly ignorant and dismissive of their culture and structural suppresion and treatment as second class citizins, let alone the fact that many slavic pelple are not even white-presenting and still get discriminated against for their features. Its so disgusting to approach slavic people like "just white" to make a point.

[@Pidaras88]

Then they are not sIavs. There is nothing "bad" about it you r4c-st big-t, sIavs are whitw and what is so horribIe abt that? Should she say "asian latino bIacks" instead? R-c-st

[@dodojesus4529]

Dont ya know there are 3 groups. Blacks, yellows and normal. I have substituted the words because the real ones are somehow worse

[@thisdustslave7661]

Me, a slav: "Are we white, chat?"

[@maxvasquez2529]

@@dodojesus4529 haha very funny but not its Normal yellows and then the accident Yakub did while high

[@Idunnohowabout7364]

5:02 Love how she ignored the fact Slavs were mainly enslaved by non Slavic Europeans

[@mr.pickleworldbuilding]

"They claim that Africans lived like Pharaos" Yes, actually they did. Egypt is part of Africa, after all.

[@asdawasda]

The people who lived there are Africans, but they aren't black. That's what they mean

[@mr.pickleworldbuilding]

@@asdawasda I understand that, I'm just pointing out the irony of the statement

[@themaninthestars891]

"They claim that Africans live like Billioners" "Uhhhh... *ACTUALLY* there are Billioners in Africa 😏"

[@stuartp2006]

Me opening this video: "I don't think anyone thinks whitey invented slavery."

[@ShursGarden]

You would be surprised and kind of disappointed. There are *so* many people online that refuse to believe that Slavery is anything but a uniquely American probem.

[@rigpa10]

@@ShursGarden bs - that is a lie - no one thinks that - every time you conservatives lie i will call you out

[@EngineNo5]

I'm sorry bruh I can't take her serious her name is CANDACE

[@Chaotic_evil_duck]

MOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!! Phineas and Ferb aren't denying history. (I hope this was the joke)

[@EngineNo5]

@@Chaotic_evil_duck yes whenever I hear that name I think of the girl from that show lmao

[@scylecs]

aaand now florida's gop is getting schools to teach that slavery is beneficial

[@w1nterdays]

And Texas

[@MoodyMickey]

Oh gosh

[@jiwanlal7149]

fuck florida ive seen enough

[@parad0x200]

I swear we’re boutta have a second civil war at this point…

[@maxvasquez2529]

THEY WHAT?!

[@oswald2799]

11:38 it's important to note that a.) Black people were not allowed to fight during a large portion of the civil war B.) There was only victory or death. Confederate troops were known for executing colored troops if captured. To understate or not even mention their bravery like Candice does here.... terrible!

[@alexandramcginnis8872]

Why did she only mention Africa when talking about modern day slavery? Seems pretty racist if you ask me. Also did Candance say that everything is complicated…. then simplify slavery?

[@thirdwheel9938]

It's her twisted way of telling black people to "stop playing victim" even if they're descendants of literal slaves

[@reedy_9619]

@@thirdwheel9938look at me I demand compensation from Italy. The romans stole my land before I was born.

[@chaodai0093]

American Slavery was among the first to introduce the idea that slaves were lower than humans, and ineligible for basic human dignities and rights.

[@expertarcher8542]

Egyptians and Jewish people:

[@ZKP314]

“Dennis Prager here: God has told me that the Age of Consent is too high.” -Max0r, Ultrakill Part 1 video

[@thecorruptionordarknessitself]

me:slavery is bad my white friend:wish we could turn back time to the good ol days

[@Val-ud9fn]

The abolition of slavery was one of the goals of the Mexcan war of independence (1810-1821). Of course, as soon as the independence was a success the new constitution made slavery illegal, putting us more than a decade ahead of England.

[@ShinjisRightHand55]

I’m not tripping balls right? I’m getting a political analysis video from a DDLC themed channel

[@YamishiMizuandDracus]

Small correction: Toyotomi Hideyoshi was the Shogun, not the Emperor. Shogun basically meant military dictator. He was also born a commoner. And he was also gay.

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

That doesn't make it any better