Prayer Books: What's the Difference?

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@joannej-qt4tt 17 күн бұрын

I want to share somethings that helped me use my prayer book more often i.e. keep a prayer rule. My favorite book is the newrome but I bought the FULL SIZE VERSION. Being able to see the words easily is helpful and the icons are beautiful. The other thing I found helpful was, A MUSIC STAND. It frees up my hands to raise them , to do prostrations, I'm not distracted by fumbling trying to hold the book, and, I can leave it open to the next thing I'm going to do with it such as the lesser hours. That exposes a beautiful icon and reminds me to pray at the arranged time. Maybe that will be helpful for someone as easily distracted as I am. Thanks for the review.

@gerardgrywacheski1418 3 жыл бұрын

Love this review of different prayer books!!🙂👍 I have and used frequently the prayer books reviewed in this video, but always hoped and prayed for a unified prayerbook that could be used across the jurisdictions!! Remembering the old saying, the family that prays together, stays together!!☦🙏

@maxheinrichliebow 2 ай бұрын

Something cool about the Jordanville too - with Morning Prayer, when you finish Psalm 50, you can flip the pages to the "selections from matins" and pray the Six Psalms before returning back and carrying on with the Creed .etc

@OrthodoxReview 2 ай бұрын

Bingo!

@richardglady3009 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the introduction of Prayer Books for a person raised as a Presbyterian with no experience with Prayer Books. It was full of very useful facts. Thanks for the video (from one with one and one-third legs).

@Rayndrops 2 жыл бұрын

You can always change the prayer for Russia's salvation to be about your own country.

@OrthodoxReview 2 жыл бұрын

Very true

@Yallquietendown 3 жыл бұрын

I started on the Jordanville. I have tried other ones. But I always come back to it. And I’m very attached to my original even though the binding isn’t as well done. I bought the updated version with the better binding but ended up just heavily taping up my old one and continuing to use it. I can’t undo my emotional attachment to it. Its frustrating because the St Tikhons book is more beautiful but it just doesn’t stay in my heart like the Jordanville language does. I also have the Greek synekdemos when I feel like saying a few prayers i have learned in Greek.

@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын

I know the feeling all too well...

@joemantheiy 3 жыл бұрын

With being a bit older when I was received into the church, the Ancient Faith prayer book was the most accessible for someone who spent nearly 50 years speaking English as my native language. After a couple of years, I have been looking to add to my prayer life. The trouble I am having is that many of the prayer books out there don't use the best English. They have English words, but the words are not arranged in a way as a native English speaker would use them. In addition, the fact that none of them even bother to use the same translation of Psalms and other prayers that have already been translated. I recently purchased the Anthologion, but I find myself grabbing my HTM psalter or my Ancient Faith prayer book because the translation is so very different that I get lost in the prayer, but it is still a wonderful prayer book. I have found myself looking more at Western Rite prayer books because the English is much more consistent and accessible to native English speakers. Anyway, thank you Raf for another great video on prayer be books.

@Will-ge7ri 8 ай бұрын

It just takes some getting used to. If you can use the HTM Psalter you can use anything, and I’m not referring to their “Elizabethan” English, but their barely English word order. Pray what works for you.

@mavisemberson8737 7 ай бұрын

Me too

@bryanlahaise595 3 жыл бұрын

I have all three of these awesome Prayer Book’s They are Awesome!

@jldrumm 3 жыл бұрын

YES! Again, thank you so much for addressing my question in this video. It's perfect. Such a great comparison of each book's roadmap. This makes so much sense to me.

@PossumKing94 3 жыл бұрын

I have a quick question on prayer. If you're married, is it better to pray together in the morning/evening prayers? If so, should we just pray every other part? Also, if we do pray together, would our prayers alone be the Jesus prayer? What is family prayer vs personal prayer - I suppose that's my main question. I know you're super busy! I really appreciate you. We are newly Orthodox (chriamated 22 November last year!) and still have our training wheels on, it feels like! Your channel is such a blessing!

@PossumKing94 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrCshowbread That was extremely helpful to me! My thoughts were that if we did pray together, we could probably pray more in terms of prayers as well. I saved your comment to my phone to read in the morning. Thank you so very much!

@Yallquietendown 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Zack I’m not sure there is a firm rule for families. We pray the morning prayers as a family out of the kids prayer book by Potamitis Publishing- it’s very good and the kids love the pictures. Maybe Raph could do a review on children prayer books? It takes us 5-10 min. Hoping to work up to evening prayers too.

@NoeticInsight 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrCshowbread how do you find so much time for prayer? How early do you wake up? That sounds like at least 1 hour of prayer in the morning and close to an hour of prayer at night? If you include how long it takes to get ready in the morning including breakfast, and how long it takes to get ready for sleep etc…that’s basically 2 hours each morning and 2 hours each night. You would have to start extremely early and go to bed extremely early? I tend to work early until 10-12pm…I feel daunted reading your message. But also inspired and hope I can get there…

@Sleeplessmclean Жыл бұрын

Thank you from the Dominican Republic!

@s216674 4 күн бұрын

I really wish the New Rome would come in Traditional English, the St. Ignatius would not do such funky translations of things like the Our Father, or the Holy Transfiguration would have included Evening Prayers along with Morning and Small Compline. I just can't seem to find a prayer book I really want to get. I mostly use the Orthoprax app but that bounces back an forth between Traditional and Modern English in the middle of the prayers.

@OrthodoxReview 4 күн бұрын

Yea, I struggle with that, as well. Sometimes I consider just making my own.

@s216674 Күн бұрын

@@OrthodoxReview I hear you. I appreciate the efforts that publishers are making to get prayer books into the hands of Orthodox Christians. I just don't understand the desire to retranslate things which are in common usage. Every Orthodox Church I have been in does the Our Father in one of two ways "forgive us our trespasses" or "forgive us our debts..." but the rest is the same as everyone knows. Then, a publisher comes along and does a clunky retranslation of a prayer that every Christian, Orthodox or otherwise, knows by heart. It just doesn't make sense to me.

@carljd Жыл бұрын

This the first time an Orthodox Christian has called me a "mentsch" Excellent review! 👍👍👍👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

@gerardgrywacheski1418 3 жыл бұрын

Always enjoy your reviews on prayer books. Personally I enjoy using the SVIT and Jordanville prayer books even though my first prayer book was Eastern Orthodox Prayers from St. Alban and St. Sergius.

@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын

No shame in that! The SVIT us great!

@gerardgrywacheski1418 3 жыл бұрын

@@OrthodoxReview Agreed, plus it's place in the history of American Orthodoxy's prayer life should not be ignored as it probably lead the way to other prayer books using it as a guide to their own prayer books I.e. St.Tikhon's Old edition prayer book!!

@Nathanthelate Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the information! I have perhaps a silly question, what is a prayer rule, and what advice would you have for compiling one? The way I understand it a prayer rule would be the prayers with you fully integrate into your prayer routine. If that’s the case, and it’s a good idea to do as you alluded to in the video and draw from multiple prayer books for your rule, then what’s the best way to document where they all are? Maybe I should create a word document and sequence, and add things that I would like to use regularly? Grateful for any direction, thanks guys.

@billybenson3834 Жыл бұрын

Unpopular opinion- Use the prayer book / rule suggested by your father confessor and or spiritual father. It allows continuity and a unified prayer with those you worship with. It's close to prelest to just use whatever one you "feel" like. All prayer especially for new converts need to be a prescribed rule.

@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын

That's a given. The best prayer book is the one you use.

@littlefishbigmountain 7 ай бұрын

How is it prelest to use any of the authentic and apostolic prayers of the canonical Church? Yeah, maybe if you went to a GOARCH parish to look down on them and read a ROCOR prayer book to feel more spiritual, that’s obviously prelest, but to openly generalize that seems a bit bizarre. Is it prelest for Western Rite Orthodox to read Byzantine style prayers? Of course not. It’s often (rightly) said that unity does not equal uniformity. It also doesn’t require compartmentalization between different jurisdictions and parishes. The Church is Catholic.

@VincentTamer 10 күн бұрын

I agree that one should use the prayer book closest to the prayers and language style within one’s parish but to say that using a prayer book different from one’s parish is prelest is utterly insane!

@hughmccann919 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Raf!

@bryanlahaise595 2 жыл бұрын

I learned a lot about these three Books I have.

@bryanlahaise595 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know the differance.

@IrishEagIe 3 жыл бұрын

The editing in this vid's great Raph 👌

@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@booklassygarrahan3929 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so very much!

@mavisemberson8737 7 ай бұрын

Did you get a copy of The Saint Theodore Prayer Book.. from the AntiochianOrthodox Archdiocese ofthe British Isles and Ireland ? I got a copy in York ,England when the local government or some one appeared to under a strange leadership who wanted to remove a statue to Constantine . (The Roman military commander who succeeded his father there He ended the presecution of Christians and founded Constantinople. ) The Antiochians still appear to be present in York in spite of the EU . Brexit has happened of course since then.

@OrthodoxReview 7 ай бұрын

Interesting. No, I've not yet.

@walterschmidt3544 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Christ is risen

@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын

Indeed He is risen!

@Ezekielthv Жыл бұрын

When we do the bow or prostration according to the prayer book?

@MrJohnSmith63 8 ай бұрын

I have the blue Greek one and the pocket prayer book. I’m looking for a hardback or more durable version of the pocket one. I like that book because it has practical everyday prayers, intercession prayers and misc prayers. I am new to orthodox faith. Any suggestions? God bless you

@OrthodoxReview 8 ай бұрын

Saint ignatius orthodox press makes a small hardback prayer book that is comparable to a little red.

@OrthodoxReview 8 ай бұрын

legacyicons.com/saint-ignatius-pocket-prayer-book/

@MrJohnSmith63 8 ай бұрын

@@OrthodoxReview awesome thank you!

@paulcaskey 8 ай бұрын

What's the difference between the Jordanville Prayer book, Horologion, and Psalter? They all seem like the same thing. Thanks.

@OrthodoxReview 8 ай бұрын

Everything

@Jasiel.95 7 ай бұрын

They’re separate entities man

@gfkarayel Жыл бұрын

Is there an Orthodox book that provides all the special prayers written by St.Basil the Great and/or the other church fathers?

@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын

Not yet, that I'm aware of. It could take a lifetime to track them all down.

@michaeljcdo335 3 жыл бұрын

Just as a curiosity, since I’m a Roman Catholic new to the Byzantine Rite, when would a cleric/monk say these morning/evening prayers or would they say them at all? Are these meant to be a truncated form of the Hours for the laity?

@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone prays them.