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(Fixed) Ep. 24. Choosing a prayerbook

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Orthodox Review

Orthodox Review

4 жыл бұрын

Fixed audio! How do you choose the right prayerbook for you? Here's 5 points to look at.
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@gerardgrywacheski1418
@gerardgrywacheski1418 2 жыл бұрын
A good prayerbook to me is the translation you are most comfortable with, and the one that fits well with your proscribed prayer rule that your spirtual father and yourself have worked out.
@MagnificentFiend
@MagnificentFiend 4 ай бұрын
FYI you mean 'prescribed'. 'Proscribed' means forbidden!
@JackOfAllBladesCh
@JackOfAllBladesCh 4 жыл бұрын
A good book to do a review of on your channel would be The Orthodox Study Bible.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually...
@panokostouros7609
@panokostouros7609 4 жыл бұрын
Why? It's been extensively reviewed by Orthodox and non-Orthodox already
@panokostouros7609
@panokostouros7609 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, though.
@Gregori418
@Gregori418 3 жыл бұрын
It is the only Orthodox Bible I can get, but I sense he is not a fan.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Orthodox Study Bible
@joshtomlinson8169
@joshtomlinson8169 4 жыл бұрын
You have been such a lifesaver for a beginner! I love how you split it between the jurisdictions, that helped me out a lot, wasn’t even thinking about that. Been watching you for a while now and I can’t tell ya how much help you’ve been. I was thinking a cool video I’d be interested in would be one of you going through your icon corner saying which saints you picked and why, where you got them, the style etc. I saw the prayer corner video you did but thought it’d be neat you going into the specifics. Have a blessed day my friend!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Glory to God! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, and that they're helping! I've thought of doing an icon video, so maybe it's time I get to work on one...
@erikhenrique5911
@erikhenrique5911 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much brother, this helps a Brazilian Orthodox.
@devinirish
@devinirish 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is my Holy Transfiguration Monastery Prayer Book, with pocket book of hours and the psalter
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, my copy is missing. It's also one of my favorites.
@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098
@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 4 жыл бұрын
First ones I ever prayed from (The Hours & Psalter). Love them.
@baoduong2203
@baoduong2203 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am a Catholic Seminarian for the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church, but my time with the Eastern Orthodox Church (OCA/GoArch) has impacted my the depth of my prayer life. I hope you have a wonderful Pascha. Christus Resurrexit!
@richlopez5896
@richlopez5896 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever reached out to the Sts. Cyril & Methodius Byzantine Catholic Seminary in Pennsylvania?
@orthodoxhiker9287
@orthodoxhiker9287 3 жыл бұрын
I use a mix of prayer books, depending on how much time I have. If I've planned my morning/evening correctly, I like the completeness of the Jordanville... it has All the Prayers and All the Intercessions, and was the first prayer book I started using when I was chrismated in 2015. If, as happens all too often, I mis-plan, over-sleep, or wait till it's too late for me to be fully awake and coherent, I use the much briefer little red prayer book. Sometimes I will use the St. Tikhon's because I really like it! But mostly, I keep going back to Jordanville.
@jeffreyperez2178
@jeffreyperez2178 3 жыл бұрын
Roman Catholic loving what im see from the eastern churches. Considering Byzantine, this helps a lot! Heart sunk when you said you scribbled the pope out
@FaithfulComforter
@FaithfulComforter 10 ай бұрын
The Papacy has been rejected from the beginning and only came into play in Vatican 1 if not mistaken.
@yourneighbour3309
@yourneighbour3309 7 ай бұрын
im striving towards The One Truth Of Eastern Orthodoxy. Bought the Jordanville just now!💙
@savtux1
@savtux1 4 жыл бұрын
Another deciding factor will be the type of English you are comfortable with.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this briefly.
@ethanmcclain7570
@ethanmcclain7570 4 жыл бұрын
The Ancient Faith Prayer Book is also available on the Orthodox Marketplace website, which is part of GOARCH, so they apparently like it a good bit, as well. GOARCH themselves only publish one straight up prayer book that isn't geared towards a specific group, like kids or teens, that I've found, at least. It's Daily Prayers for Orthodox Christians, and apparently it's pretty good, but I don't have it myself.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Two, actually 😁. The one you're talking about, I used to have, and am waiting on a fresh copy for the show. The other is the subject of episode 28.
@Milliardo5
@Milliardo5 2 жыл бұрын
The Antiochian has red and black versions. I have the black version. Basically it's the same as the red one, only the cover is different in color. Very handy for me as I can carry it everywhere especially in mission areas. Mine is very much used because of it. I also have the Jordanville one which is used at home.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 2 жыл бұрын
I've got my red paper cover, and both red and black in vinyl. I should probably do an update to this episode lol
@Milliardo5
@Milliardo5 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview Well this would almost be two years, and as well I see you also made a video on the Old Believers prayer book, so an updated video on this would be welcome.
@OrthoPaddy
@OrthoPaddy 4 ай бұрын
Coptic Agpeya is the best hour book for personal devotions, alongside the Syriac Shimo which I always recommend
@Borgs-gb2gv
@Borgs-gb2gv 4 жыл бұрын
I use the little red pocket prayer book and newrome press's blue prayer book
@Orange_Laowai
@Orange_Laowai 4 жыл бұрын
There is the Old Rite Prayer book from Church of the Nativity and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the USA prayer book.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned both in the video. I've owned both, and love them. Just saving my pennies to get new copies! (I have a habit of giving away books)
@aidmuslims8150
@aidmuslims8150 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the UOC book is beautiful and I love it too, but man they needed to run a last-pass spelling check on their "Paryers".
@ettoredipugnar6990
@ettoredipugnar6990 2 жыл бұрын
ROCOR , Old Believers , and Antiochian .also sometimes I refer to the Hapgood
@dansgone2229
@dansgone2229 4 жыл бұрын
The Agpeya is the Egyptian (Coptic) Orthodox prayerbook of the Seven Hours and is a great prayerbook for the hours of the day including midnight, vespers, and compline.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I'll track a copy down!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Got 3 versions on order, stay tuned!
@bonniejohnstone
@bonniejohnstone 6 ай бұрын
I may have missed it but there are popular prayer books like ‘Hear Me’ for older teens and young adults published by Ancient Faith. Also ‘The Ascetic Lives of Mothers’ again by Ancient Faith and published in many languages. (Author of both Annalisa Boyd) These are not only for regular prayer time, but times when family stress or pressure from peers seems overwhelming. (Both are on Audible)
@xmc7189
@xmc7189 3 жыл бұрын
I like the blue one with the IC XC cross. Since you're a collector just like me you must also a copy of the Agpeya (Book of the Hours).
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Several!
@xmc7189
@xmc7189 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview But I checked just now. The rome edition is sold out on amazon and romebooks. Dont know where else to get it.
@konstantinoiam1004
@konstantinoiam1004 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings my dear brother, Rafael! I am grateful to God for gifting you the courage in your heart to share these wonderful videos. Forgive me, as at the moment I have no data or internet and am using wifi. Thus, I haven't gotten a chance to view all you videos in depth because of buffering issues. However, I am in hope that perhaps you may help me with a few questions on what prayer book I am seeking. As many I started off with the "Little Red" prayer book. And I have grown to love the rules of prayer and the different occasions like the short prayer for marriage, children patron Saint, guardian angel, for sick etc... I also like the English to be "Thy, Thou" and to say "Spirit" not Ghost. What draws me to pick it up is, ascetics as well. With easy line font type and beautiful traditional ornaments (banner/ headers). I'm leaning towars NewRome and St. Tikons. I do have the THM which was gifted to me and the Jordanville I use to have, but did not really open, I gifted it and it was like new. So something like the Antiocian with some canons, Akathist. What do you find to be close. I will try in the meantime to load up your other videos and see what you say within them. We had spoken on Facebook very briefly before, "Konstantinos TheCretan" Thank you! In Christ, Your lowly brother, -- Konstantinos
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother. The HTM is a good one. You're not far off with the Newrome or STS. The major difference between the two us that the Newrome is according to Athonite usage, and the STS is according to the slavonic usage.
@McReb
@McReb 2 жыл бұрын
The UOC of the USA has a great prayer book!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-reqZvqt-BmZI
@byzantinethomism6489
@byzantinethomism6489 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please review the Melkite prayerbook?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Coming soon!
@stevea6207
@stevea6207 4 жыл бұрын
What’s a good prayer book for someone coming in to the faith? Who maybe just wants a nice translation of morning and evening prayers.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
For the price, Little Red us the way to go. Simple, affordable, and easy to find.
@maggiem3309
@maggiem3309 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. What is the Eastern Orthodox view of Anglicanism/Episcopalians?
@Max_Pilgrim
@Max_Pilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
Protestant, enquiring Orthodoxy here, I've wanted the Newrome Press prayer book for quite some time now, but it's always sold out :(
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
It's very popular! Luckily, most orthodox book sellers, and Amazon, have it readily available! Try SVSPRESS.COM holycross.org or others. Glory to God, may He bless you on your journey!
@Max_Pilgrim
@Max_Pilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview Thankyou for those resources! Decided I will order the Jordanville Prayer Book from SVS Press.
@smithragsdale8787
@smithragsdale8787 10 ай бұрын
Since I come from an Anglican background, can I use the Orthodox Book of Common Prayer or should I use a GOARCH prayer book?
@fencingisyur7123
@fencingisyur7123 4 күн бұрын
you mentioned the romanian churches prayer books, do you know which ones they are/ where i can get one?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 күн бұрын
Currently out of print, unfortunately.
@alfieward4966
@alfieward4966 4 жыл бұрын
Hi is there any chance you could do a review on the BCP it would be interesting to see the orthodox adaption of it cheers
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
It's upcoming, stay tuned!
@alfieward4966
@alfieward4966 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@user-df5hw2sm3f
@user-df5hw2sm3f 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you got ICXC NIKA on your knuckles and half a thumb. You in the orthodox yakuza?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
lol maybe
@stevecalvert1382
@stevecalvert1382 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother. I’m not sure you are aware but the Anthologion Prayer Book from St Ignatious Orthodox Press will be coming out in the next month or so. I contributed to the funding of this project and will be receiving a first edition copy bound in Sheepskin. If you would like, I can email pictures of my copy when it comes in. Just let me know.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also a backer, I'm so excited!
@stevecalvert1382
@stevecalvert1382 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro. I’m not a fan of some of these modern translations so I’m withholding judgement for now. Honestly, I always have Little Red with me and I love the Hapgood Service book, the New Rome book, and finally, the Orthodox Christian Prayers book. Like you, I have a lot of books but the ones I just listed are the books that I use the most. Even with the typesetting issues in Little Red - oddly enough, I still think it’s my favorite. It really has everything that a lay person needs.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Little red is always with me.
@clannard1
@clannard1 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there, I've just found your channel and am enjoying your prayer book reviews. So far I have the "little red book". I like it, but am after another pocket-sized prayer book that has a more expansive selection of prayers for different needs and occasions and doesn't include the entire divine liturgy. Do you have suggestions of what might fit the bill? Thanks, Deborah.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
The prayer book from Newrome press is exactly what you're looking for
@clannard1
@clannard1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @@OrthodoxReview, I appreciate your suggestion :) I also have my eye on the Manual of Eastern Orthodox Prayers and the new Orthodox Christian Prayers. Just wondering - have you seen the Orthodox Prayer Book from Holy Protection Monastery and the Manual of Occasional Prayers from Holy Myrrhbearers Monastery? I'd love to see a review of those as well if they ever fall into your hands :) Thanks again!
@Papayianni623
@Papayianni623 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@walterschmidt3544
@walterschmidt3544 Жыл бұрын
thx
@williamhecht984
@williamhecht984 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bdwilson1977
@bdwilson1977 Жыл бұрын
Hi Raphael, just wanted to ask if youve read or done a review on the book 'Habitation of Holiness a selection of writings by Saint Nektarios'? Im thinking of buying it but would love to know a bit more about it before hand. Thanks brother all the best.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын
I've read smatterings of his work, and have been well pleased thus far.
@maxheinrichliebow
@maxheinrichliebow 11 ай бұрын
I wonder, did you ever see the 2012 Newrome Press "An Orthodox Prayer Book", by a Fr Michael Monos?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 11 ай бұрын
I've got every version
@retro-orthodox
@retro-orthodox 4 жыл бұрын
How do you personally incorporate the use of psalters into your prayer life? Being a fan of Father Reardon’s podcast, he frequently promotes the use of the Psalms as THE prayer book of the church. To be fair, he speaks highly of these types of prayers (the ones in the books you’re reviewing), but he has casually dropped that he goes as far as to tell parishioners who ask how to build a better prayer life to start memorizing psalms.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Reardon fan as well. I try to read a kathisma a day from the prescribed order, but at the very least, I'll read a random psalm
@charlesvoy
@charlesvoy 4 жыл бұрын
An easy way to start is to pray a stasis in the morning and a stasis in the evening.
@charlesvoy
@charlesvoy 4 жыл бұрын
But even if you just pray one stasis a day, you'll go through the entire Psalter six times in a year. Neat, huh? And more than manageable.
@aidmuslims8150
@aidmuslims8150 4 жыл бұрын
Some prayer books include the Psalms, like the UOC prayer book and the mini Jordanville prayer book (which is also the cutest little thing ever! :-)
@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098
@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 4 жыл бұрын
Fr. Pat rocks! For incorporating the Psalms, (a Kathisma at Vespers and two at Matins) there's an interesting online resource that I rely on heavily, esp. when I travel. "Liturgyio" online has a whole variety of daily prayer structures, initially just for Orthodox, but now expanded for all "Classical Christians". Their Dynamic Horologion (with the Troparia & Kontakia for the saints commemorated each day, though not entirely "Feast-sensitive") is awesome. I love the new feature for searching a different day/time than the current hour, too -- happy hunting!
@shawnhampton8503
@shawnhampton8503 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned a larger Romanian/English prayer book. I found a small one but do you have a link for the larger one? Thank you!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
That was a mistake on my part, I meant Ukranian. There's a video for both of them, with links in the description. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-reqZvqt-BmZI
@trinitarianchampion
@trinitarianchampion 3 жыл бұрын
Are the John Mikitish and Herman Majkrzak Orthodox Christian Prayers [Prayer Book] And Holy Trinity Monastery Prayer Book the same in terms of the information contained therein?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
For the most part
@DualFrodo
@DualFrodo 3 жыл бұрын
If it was between the St. Tikhon's prayer book, and the blue Newrome press book, which would you recommend?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Newrome
@DualFrodo
@DualFrodo 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview Thank you! And one other question sorry - Regarding your prayer corner video, would any icon of Christ be good, or the particular one that you use? (The light of the world)
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Any icon of Christ is fine
@HarryBarry97
@HarryBarry97 Жыл бұрын
Hello Brother, Im looking for a mini prayer book that you can have in your pocket, Do upu have any recommendstions? God bless
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqPSXpqPoteJfKs
@xmc7189
@xmc7189 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know why you left the monastery lol?😂
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
I've discussed it several times. Would be happy to again next stream.
@manuelquelle9915
@manuelquelle9915 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s the ACROD prayer book?
@twotetah
@twotetah 3 жыл бұрын
Syriac PB?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't found one in English yet
@elvisgeorge9613
@elvisgeorge9613 2 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a Syro Malabar one, which is East Syriac, there are a couple ones that I use. I also have an Assyrian one as well. I can share them with you if you're interested. I have a West Syrian one as well. However, it's not the one used in the Middle East, it is the one we use in India. There are all links though.
@kaitlyncleary3424
@kaitlyncleary3424 3 жыл бұрын
Besides the little red book, what else do you recommend for a beginner?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
Prayer Book of the Early Christians, or, Hear Me.
@stevanmedvedev
@stevanmedvedev 4 жыл бұрын
You are making very good review videos sir! 👍 my only tiny complaint would be your thumb, and I’m not trying to offend you, but it’s very distracting... it’s none of my business if you don’t wanna acknowledge or talk about it. Lord have mercy ☦️ have a good day
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about ol' nub thumb. The Lord gives, the Lord takes away. Blessed is our God.
@stevanmedvedev
@stevanmedvedev 4 жыл бұрын
Orthodox Review don’t worry about it! You do a great job!
@D-A-K
@D-A-K 4 жыл бұрын
What about prayer books for children?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned it, tonight's episode is a kid friendly book!
@aidmuslims8150
@aidmuslims8150 4 жыл бұрын
How did you find out those first 3 were sanctioned by the OCA? My father didn't even mention that was a thing!
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Say's so on the inside, with the bishops name. Who's your father?
@stevenirizarry9427
@stevenirizarry9427 Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your icons if I may ask?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview Жыл бұрын
All over the place. I recommend Legacy Icons
@eliangonzales
@eliangonzales 2 жыл бұрын
So, when you "scratched out the Pope's name," was it done in the spirit of Christian love and is this typical practice for adherents of the Orthodox rite?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 2 жыл бұрын
We don't commemorate heretics, schismatics, or heterodox leaders.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 2 жыл бұрын
We can pray for whoever we want, but commemoration is different.
@patrickhewitt6593
@patrickhewitt6593 4 жыл бұрын
You said there is a Romanian Orthodox prayer with over 900 pages? I can't find it 😭
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-reqZvqt-BmZI
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I meant Ukranian
@patrickhewitt6593
@patrickhewitt6593 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview thanks 🤗 but thats ukrainian... 🤣 its another book I wanna buy
@patrickhewitt6593
@patrickhewitt6593 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview okay that explains possibly why I never found a Romanian one lol but thank you 😁
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
My brain is mush.
@Ettoredipugnar
@Ettoredipugnar 3 жыл бұрын
Old Believers prayer book ?
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@Ettoredipugnar
@Ettoredipugnar 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview have you ever seen it ? It’s just as a credible prayer book as the rest of those that you revised .
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ettoredipugnar i reviewed it.
@Ettoredipugnar
@Ettoredipugnar 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxReview sorry , I didn’t know that you did
@FirstNameLastName-is6yb
@FirstNameLastName-is6yb 4 жыл бұрын
You might have more icons than my parish. A bit overkill, lol.
@OrthodoxReview
@OrthodoxReview 4 жыл бұрын
I've collected a few over the years. Some where gifts, others I purchased.
@ajfritzke1954
@ajfritzke1954 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to consider some Catholic prayers books.
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