Final Thoughts going into BfA

[@sterlingkeful340]

It's amazing how backwards they went from Legion to BFA compared to what they offered from WoD to Legion.

[@Dunkaholic18]

anything would be good compared to wod though so it's not like it was hard to increase the quality of the game lol

[@awfullyawful9779]

To me I don’t understand why people just expected another expansion to do as well as legion.. not saying it was the best expansion ever but for some reason everyone’s forgotten about the possibility of there being another WOD esque expansion it’s like people just see it only going up from here because legion happened... nooo...

[@Whackfear]

> Implying that Legion isn't as good as it is

[@squirtyhaha5657]

Really odd how for these past expansions, especially BFA, the question is not "what new abilities and things will I get?" Instead, "What abilities and things will I lose in BFA?". Huge bummer, really. I would really appreciate Classic sooner than later. The game is clearly for a completely different audience now.

[@grimlight999]

If I had the choice between 7 abilities to spam or 40 useless abilities or one down ranked spell that you cant spam but have to stop cast constantly Id go for the 7 everytime...I do miss mp5 though....wish they just diminishing return it harder

[@fatalexception1269]

If Preach goes on holiday, then Asmongold won't have any videos to put out.

[@slinttu1378]

Fatal Exception Since when has asmon been putting them up?

[@kinbailey310]

Whether he puts them up or not Asmond is making public comments on Preache's vids and he knows they're going up. I was wondering the other day if Asmond makes his own product or does he just comment on everyone elses work?

[@bassebanan5092]

Jelly mate?

[@iPiiZiiZ]

Because people ask him to react to videos

[@nhagan001]

>.> "I'm not making the content, I'm just reacting to other videos and they are being put on another channel" sure thing. guess Asmongold gets his body mind controlled on a regular frequency so he can claim plausible deniability.

[@prometheushippopotimi3076]

this is the least hyped i have been for an expac

[@Flurry17]

no they werent lol, legion is praobably most hyped one. people were proabably just drained from wod and didnt expect much from legion. not me though

[@zeezoldyck1924]

I swear people say this all the time

[@Buggabones]

Remember when Preach said WoD was going to be an amazing xpac? HYPERLUL

[@MisterMayhem108]

There’s simply no way we can lose as much as we have and have it feel good. However, I think it’s something they had to do for the game’s longevity. Between talents, artifacts, netherlight, legendaries, and tier set bonuses, we had all these systems interacting and doing crazy stuff, and I just think that design wise it had to be deescalated in order to build upon a much flatter surface once more. I look at BfA as a kind of soft reset, both narratively and systems wise, that gives them a lot of room to maneuver going forward. Certain things, while they don’t effect me personally, I don’t agree with because all they do is seemingly add hassle for people who enjoyed playing the game a certain way, and I’m not about that. You should be able to swap gear in M+ if you want to, turn on master looter if you want to, or click a button on world quest tracker to join a Zerg group for a world boss if you want to. I don’t see the upside from those changes, and I feel bad for the people hurt by them. However, purely on character power. I think it had to be done, and things will only get better from here. And, if I may, a great deal of the worry about the expansion both comes from a need for content creators to push out content (not you, Preach. I love you, doge) and is often overstated, dramatically. Now, if 8.1 rolls around, and Azurite traits are exactly the same, and people still feel bad after gearing up and getting used to the new mechanics, that’s another thing entirely. I hope, and have faith that won’t be the case.

[@TheZifrit]

Jason Deschain well said,i see it the same way. Even if its slow and boring now,its just a fundament for building anew,and atleast that has me excited. So i can see where they are coming from,design wise. I mean,come on,this was inevitable.

[@Ceiling_Gato]

Finally somebody who gets it. Warfronts are another example, sure they are too easy now and you can't lose, but scale wise it's an important mile stone for WoW, one which can be expanded upon in patches and also future expansions.

[@zZSleepytimeZz]

If you remember the prepatches of the last 2 expansions it was "soft reset" in a similar matter with people using the same arguments. Yet we are still losing stuff left and right. I am very sceptical about this expansion feeling good but i hope i get to have fun with the game i used to love for atlest a couple of months.

[@MisterMayhem108]

I mean, if “soft reset” has been thrown around a bunch in previous expansions that’s not something I’m really aware of and don’t think it fits for them. Bottom line is this; if losing all the toys we previously had is a deal breaker for you, that sucks and I’m sorry it has to be that way. I’d like everyone to be having fun, and for the game to flourish. However, I think people in general are more likely to have fun if they dive in and allow themselves to enjoy the content. It is a loss, absolutely. But it’s the ground floor of a new tower to climb, and we only know for certain what the lobby looks like.

[@puppe213]

I think you're being too optimistic here. You're saying they can still build upon what we have now in bfa, but we know for a fact that aside from some outliers no classes are going to receive major work during an expansion. And there is nothing in place except for azerite armor that has the potential to provide changes to gameplay. So I don't really understand this idea that it's all gonna be fine 2 patches down the line.

[@evozor5874]

The expansion absolutely has a lot of problems but I'm just going to try to stay optimistic and just have fun playing the game.

[@Leo-lx8bu]

love ur videos man

[@mikehunt4607]

I wouldn't bother. most of the player base (including me) will just be waiting for classic

[@maggimaster]

Dominant Right Wing Alpha Male fuck classic man even bfa has more content and complexity

[@martine-h5217]

Most of the player base LOL. Surely you aren't serious..

[@DJSoulbrother]

Most of the player base..... I really doubt that, If you played back then I think you felt otherwise, Most of the game was a chore especially not being able to play a class you wanted to in a raid. I came from Lin2 which was an actual grind BUT Wow didn't feel that great to play, then. I don't get how people are SO excited about Vanilla. "Dominant right wing alpha male" (all with caps as well...) Your name basically says it all about yourself.

[@intergalacticspacewizard1966]

The talk about personal loot is very important, I remember trying to farm tichondrius for his class set shoulders and every time I would get icon of rot or whatever the shitty trinket was called, it would titanforge often for me too, it was very frustrating and I know if my guild at the time were running master loot there's a high likelihood that I would have gotten the tier shoulders at some point Removing this sort of choice is not good and my current guild master is quite upset about it

[@zeeke6254]

Seems like the idea that Legion gave us "too much" is looking more and more prominent. It appears most things in BFA are just a watered down version of everything we've been doing, combine that with the dumbing down of classes with less mechanics, more downtime and less talents with character progression etc and now Azerite armor is pretty much going to be the main sets of armor rather than getting new pieces is making this expansion look less and less exciting for me.

[@hannesbacklund1180]

The theme for Bfa seems to be "Not as excited as I usually am for expansions", this is concerning. Will this expansion be worse than Wod? Will the lack of class development kill the expansion and the game? I like new spells/abilties and it is always a nice thing to explore and then get used to, this is more of a step back and I'm sceptical, we gain nothing and lose alot. We will have to wait and see, the expansion is not out yet and I am trying my best to be optimistic but it's hard.

[@Bluebozzy]

Enjoy your vacation and time with your family Preach, you deserve it.

[@Althyrr]

For the warmode I'd do it the exact other way you suggested. Instead of people having to turn it on, when people get invited to a group which have warmode on. Give them the option to turn it on by adding another window that allows you to turn it on when they get invited. This way they'll still have to turn it off in Stormwind or Orgrimmar but avoids the problem of people abusing it to avoid the pvp part. And do avoid it being abused the other way maybe put a debuff on it so you cant start pvp combat instantly, like a 20-30 second cant pvp yet debuff.

[@WolfRites]

Yeah, you don't forget about the GCD change. That moment where you press a button, but nothing apart from a buff pops up is JARRING. You're just standing there, and it feels like you're doing nothing. :S

[@Jognt]

"Yeah I just used this ability, gimme 1.5 seconds to catch my breath yo."

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

It definitely feels like shit on my ret pala, he just stands there, contemplating his wings, lmfao...

[@Haplessrabit]

* presses crusade, looks down a few seconds later to check buff, sees no buff, sees ability off cd, stops what doing, waits... waits... waits... presses crusade........ waits some more. * Okay time to play! oh the boss is dead.

[@theleetality]

We FFXIV now boys.

[@tomelliott9]

Am I right in thinking Forge of Souls used dynamic music? I'm sure the music changed on the boss fights...

[@aleman123456789]

“I might call it a day. “ *FAINTS*

[@nickhaberer]

eternAl3 the end is nigh

[@Offroads95]

Pretty sure that is the case for a lot of us veteran players. It really is frustrating to see all these changes slowly killing the game, we all really want the game to be good and keep pumping out feedback for all the terrible decisions they are making. But all of it is ignored.

[@Jakxx-mp3bj]

First expansion launch I'll be missing since Cata. I don't get how they can think going from all of the customization options we had back to just talents and the odd trinket swap (outside mythic plus lol) is a good idea. I'll check out Nobbel for the story I guess....

[@thechickennuggetsexpert6403]

eternAl3 think it's over for me also been playing since April 04

[@zeezoldyck1924]

Jakxx 5014 By customisation options do you mean the artifacts?

[@kjellannn]

I really dont lile how slow the game feels.:(

[@selimcelik3494]

Biggest killer for me is personal loot. I don't think its just a mythic raider problem either. Speaking from personal experience for instance in legion. Throughout the duration of Nighthold I never got Convergence from Elisande. It wasn't my best trinket so warriors and DH's got it which was fine. Then Tomb comes and its suddenly my best trinket. I had never dropped this thing from Heroic pugs even but I needed it. Eventually after about 3 weeks I got my guild up in arms and we all went back to NH mythic to get the trinket for me. A DH buddy of mine got it and traded it over. I was very grateful to my guild. These are positive social interactions. Gearing your friends in dungeons and raids, gearing your friends alts in Heroics, these are some things that are very enjoyable to a lot of people.

[@fredrick1176]

Rewatching this 6 months later and oof. Worst case scenario happened with BFA. Let’s see what 9.0 brings to the game?

[@ToTheSCOTT]

And how was your 9.0 experience?

[@ianardell4660]

@@ToTheSCOTTnot good. But 11.0 looks good

[@fredrick1176]

In my guild and in trade chat, for two straight days, I’ve probably only seen about 3 comments that are positive about what happened in the prepatch. Let’s hope today’s q&a puts a lot of people’s worries to ease.

[@grimlight999]

HAH when has a q&a put people at ease? once?

[@alancode2147]

You're disappointed in azerite armor (me too), but apparently Ion finds the azerite armor game changing for specs....somehow

[@Zreolur]

Maybe there is more to this system that is to come in the future? I mean I do not really see anything good about it now but who knows.

[@awfullyawful9779]

He’d call his own turd revolutionary..

[@_alex_y.not_]

BFA seems more and more like Blizzard just came up with a few ideas and convinced themselves it was enough to carry an expansion on. :/

[@grimlight999]

More like the Cata expansion to be fair...came up with a shitton of ideas but didn't have time to compete them all... big difference is Cata waited several months (wasn't much warning when patches came out) on end for new patches while now they use a 77 day patch cycle which is way easier to set goals and complete them Also Preach brought up a while ago that Blizz maybe botched azerite armor which seems more and more plausable as more patch notes come out

[@JWelson9980]

I played 3 of my characters last night and after about 5-10 minutes on each the first thing I mentioned to my friends was that they all felt like they were missing stuff, and that is with my legendaries. I'm with you Preach I hope they have something more planned because the classes (and I didn't Beta test) feel lackluster at best.

[@jamespowers1382]

Just be glad they still have legos and tier sets. For now.

[@goofyboots1]

It gets worse during BFA leveling btw :)

[@lilijagaming]

Arathi doesn't drop 355 anymore. It's down to 340 and the drop rate has been lowered significantly.

[@lilijagaming]

Also one thing makes me wonder. While WQT on beta doesn't really work as it used to but it is possible to create quest groups manually there. Interestingly it doesn't work on live at all.

[@fatmamacow8455]

You can still do dungeons with people in or out of war mode. Just can’t see them outside the instance.

[@Kim-tr5op]

after having played the specs without GCD on cds i dont think about it. but i notice it when i havent cast vendetta 20 sec after pull

[@Heironeous77]

Getting a loud voice against the GCD changes wasnt hard. Getting Blizz to care is damn near impossible, though

[@Jognt]

Everybody is affected by the GCD change. Just because someone does poor dps/doesn't know his class, he will know that he can't click button X as fast as he's used to. I'm a casual player, and one thing I pride myself in is chaining stuff together and making the most out of my time spent. Just because I don't raid/do mythic doesn't mean I just click one ability all the time. In terms of how classes feel: No idea how they'll evolve, but losing Blade Flurry on Outlaw *sucks* (yeah it's there, for 12 to 24 seconds, but that's not really something to write home about). Also my Disc priest feels like she's missing a heal. Plea is gone, sure thing, but now we're left with Shadow Mend which is basically our inefficient flash heal with a DoT on the player during combat and Penance. Oh, and two charges of PoH. That's it... That's a far cry from the PoM, PoH, Divine Hymn, Heal, Greater Heal, Flash Heal, Binding Heal, Penance, Renew, Mind Blast, Holy Fire priest that I fell in love with.

[@michaelprince814]

I feel ya man. I used to love those juicy crits as disc and having all those extra shields going off everywhere. And really why does shadow mend even put a dot on the person anyways? Seems kinda silly having that as a healer. Suppose to be preventing damage, not creating more lol. Holy and Disc to me both feel awful now. As Holy I miss Instant PoM, Greater Heal, Power Word Shield, CoH and Binding Heal as baseline talents. Cant even spam mass dispel or dispel anymore. Talents like divine star and halo i never use. No baseline mobility talents. I could go on all day but i wont I'm trying to remain optimistic!

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

I just want brewmasters targetable keg throw back. Years later still low key buttmad.

[@Fyrlink]

brewmaster is a shell of what it was in mop. oh wait that’s every class in BFA

[@justindellacanonica1896]

With regard to warfronts: If you can't lose, does it even feel good to "win"? Not saying that they can't be fun for the new factor, but I think the longevity from any system in wow (or really any game) comes from being able to do succeed from either failure (raiding, m+) or simply having the ability to push your skill higher (pvp, m+).

[@Jognt]

No but it will look good in the numbers: "100% of players win". Blizzard hasn't used actual User Experience metrics in their decisions for a long time. It's all about the statistics.

[@rumham7631]

I agree with your sentiment 100% but the sad truth is that many players don't, and Blizzard seems to be catering to them.. For example, a 960+ assassination rogue with the legendary pants and prydaz = literally 100% unkillable in open world pvp, but there is no shortage of them running around ganking people because they still get enjoyment out of killing people, despite the fact that they are literally immortal. WOW has been taken over by a new type of gamer, and Blizzard is playing into it.

[@Saran189]

I'm really worried about island expeditions. Currently they seem to be the best way to get azerite power by MILES, but after doing one weeks worth of them I never want to touch them again. Its just grinding mobs with buttloads of health over and over, and most of the mobs have cc. Combined with the enemy faction bots constantly cc'ing you and blinking away its just frustrating. But if I want to use my azerite gear I have to suck it up and grind away at them or wait for weeks to use gear that I already have.

[@NeonAtari]

Tubbimurra The health of mobs is ridiculous and feels like a time played metric sink.

[@jerryshadley8977]

most are forgetting on the tech tree like in the order hall swapable talents it says require's 5 island exp to be done for the war campaign.

[@paullatina7413]

Hardcore casual,if there is such a thing, left last September due to rl obligations and this expansion will keep me away for longer. I started in 2005 and it was fun seeing what each new expansion brought, even though my playing time decreased and I stopped raiding in a guild, but seeing what they are doing now and will further I just can’t be bothered. I’m not going to stomp on blizzard as it is their game but who in the heck wants to go backwards. It’s like building an amazing flying machine that has progressed over time and ditching it in favor of a fricking pedal moped. Not saying everything was perfect and peachy in the past but what are they smoking...

[@optionchuc1]

Honestly, going to level a couple of toons, then turn account off until last patch... if i even come back.. Less hyped for this expansion that any other ever.

[@ImmortalSoul39]

Just what I needed as im eating my pizza, a long ass preach video

[@TimbobJames]

The War Mode phasing is a serious issue. I joined a group on Argus and was unable to see my party members. Had to slog all the way to Stormwind from Argus which took so much time my party members were already done when I had made it back. Needs a way for party leader to set War Mode on or off for the entire group.

[@jerryshadley8977]

i could see that but some would abuse it. they would have to figure out a way to prevent misuse

[@wittmannger1331]

my biggest problem so far is that my characters face meshes are not loading in properly.

[@xenoblad]

Love that WOTLK login music in the background. Hands-down the best expansion in terms of music.

[@ofensatul]

Depressing but a very honest review of what's to come.

[@elliotgordon4795]

thanks for the summary preach, hope you enjoy bfa more than you expect

[@Zero-ks3pc]

Id like to be able to select the secondary stats on the necklace; and to see reforging come back with the minimal secondary stat scaling and the ‘auto-equip’ highest ilvl thing.

[@jbfire5531]

The whole war mode on/off thing described around 18-20 mins into the video is mind boggling to me. Blizzard has been developing WoW for more than 14 years at this point. How did they not have the foresight to see that this was going to cause issues?

[@alfadasfire]

Can you describe the warfronts stuff as the equivalent of Greater Invasion points in Legion? Only a bit more fleshed out?

[@sundertooth1666]

Damnit you release this on PreachCon Day! I don’t have 44 minutes to stop and watch!

[@CMOFFAT4]

My body hasn’t been so ready for 44min of preach before

[@fabiank4396]

CJ Moffat how do you feel that?

[@tomelliott9]

What difference does War Mode make in dungeons? Surely you wont encounter other players anyway, so is it just a free rewards bonus in dungeons?

[@catclaws1847]

no it's only in the world no instanced content

[@tomelliott9]

So why would anyone run dungeons in war mode?

[@josephhjk9]

nice to hear your insight! also I agree lots of the thing you said. With all the personal loot bs, GCD,, etc.. I'm not sure how much i'm looking forward to play BFA.

[@AlexA-bx8jr]

already feeling those annoyances and oversights about warmode in prepatch. Leader should determine the parties designation or like you've suggested a warning needs to be announced, etc.

[@nicholaspetrovitch7925]

Thanks for your thoughts preach. Please don't give up, love your wow content.

[@davefarrar1190]

If a friend has war mode on, and invites me that does not have war mode on, to a dungeon group, I realize that we'll be phased from each other outside of the dungeon but can the group summon me still and zone in? Once inside the dungeon I imagine it's all fine?

[@Plasmacat1]

You can summon people that have war mode but they are still phased. When you enter an instance you can see each other no issue.

[@martindrake504]

Played since Bc steadily til Mop then intermittent til Legion. I always come back. Not feeling the pull for this xpac

[@michaelcoffey1991]

@ Preach thank you as always for the hard work, quality videos, and your honest thoughts heading in to BIFA. Good luck to the community and here is hoping BIFA builds on the many things Legion did right and serves as a wow reset 2.0 to put the focus back on horde vs alliance and move characters in lore forward.

[@zickbone]

world quest will function as hotspots for world pvp for those in battle mode.

[@nickhaberer]

Hey Preach! Just wondering if you’ll be doing another pre-expansion UI video as you did for legion that gives people the download to set up their UI exactly like yours. Would definitely love that!

[@sinappanis]

audio seemed a bit low on this one. Might have just been loud on the last couple videos I watched but seemed lower then normal on this one.

[@Thatonedogreyn]

I've been having serious issues with pet threat taking aggro off tanks in dungeons and raids alike, I don't know if this is my pet just doing so much damage that it really should be taking threat and i need to keep that in mind or it could be that pet threat is way higher than tank threat. Demonic Strength is almost unusable in dungeons because my pet simply dies.

[@WhataboutBingo]

Where are the class review videos where you break the class down?!?!

[@Danishdrums]

I dont know... It looks pretty etc, but Im kinda getting a WoD feel of things here....

[@Zreolur]

idk WoD had more to be excited for and stuff to do when it came out, it was not until the first major patch that people realized there was a big problem. Id say i'm getting cataclysm vibes from BFA, cata was pretty garbage at the start with not really much to do.

[@grimlight999]

agreed but the 77 day patch cycle is decent counter to what happened in cata so hopefully that fixes peoples attitudes to the game

[@BeowulfGaming]

Could anyone sort of help me out here? I am new to the game, started recently, got 945 ilvl holy pala, but sometimes i would like to play a ret pally for arenas and pvp, ocasionally, but when i switch and change my weapon now i do no damage, my rotation and talents are on point, but the dps output is 1/3 of my holy spec doing dps...something is terribly off... is this gonna get fixed in BFA endgame where the gear and weapons will be the same for multiple specs? (will they , will they not?) or am i better of rolling an ALT char for dps spec in pvp and stick to healing with my pally to be efficient?

[@G33KSP34K]

Does your Ret weapon (Ashbringer) have equivalent relics? If not, your Ashbringer is probably a lot lower level than you Holy Artifact, which would lower the damage significantly.

[@BeowulfGaming]

that might be the issue mate, i thought it mattered before pre patch, but now that artifact is disabled i thought it should be more or less the same, i dont have artifact for ret pally, i just equip a 2h sword with highest item level...is that whats causing the shitty dps?

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

Lmfao, he didn't even replied to you because how stupid this was xD. Of course it matters, regardless of artifacts not having traits, they still have shitton of stats and ilvl...

[@BeowulfGaming]

it would be stupid for PvE matters but i was told for BG and arenas there are templates for flat out stats so its balanced hence was my question about artifact playing role in pvp, no need to call me stupid, i been playing for only a month or so....

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

I did't call you stupid, I just implied the case itself was stupid/hilarious, considering you didn't play Legion at all, this is the kind of bullshit new players have to put up with.

[@RalksDark]

warmode could be done like when grouping with people from different realms, you get swapped into the leaders realm and if leader has warmode on, everyone gets warmode enabled. they should also make it so you can change warmode in rested zones

[@Ryotsu2112]

You can always spot a hardcore raider by their 24/7 ‘satellite image’ camera angle, even when they are doing stuff like quests or standing around in town.

[@MoonTone]

Hentai mountain? tell me more

[@Sevier7777]

Moon Tone is it enormous and squishy? :p

[@Spiritwonder420]

so i heard it correct lol

[@hoboswagginz4782]

It's a large mountain with pleasure tenticals on it which is ihabited by big titted hentai girls

[@Sevier7777]

It would be hilarious if blizzard put succubus on the mountain. To defeat them you would need to use a quest item that shoots white goo lol.

[@nhagan001]

remember: the only difference between hentai and a fetish is hentai is shared. fetishes are an "invite only".

[@Reeryce]

Anyone else sense that the audio and visuals of this video are *slightly* out of sync?

[@Nyarlarthotep9]

As the player who had to step away after ToS, due to family and work and blah blah. I raided mythic, we never got server first or anything. But we cleared the mythic content when it was current. Looking at what higher end BfA which is what I enjoyed doing. I don't know if I'm going to play BfA.

[@Gebirges]

There are Inklings in Boralis? #Splatoon

[@drperzik]

I still dont get, why the fuck we still havent got a new talent row. Especially after the retirement of our artifacts.

[@Vorusen]

Maaaan I totally forgot about how you had to build a group for world quests on the isles in BC hahaha. I feel like if you join a group and the leader has war mode on it should give you a message like you said saying it's going to turn warmode on for you. They could limit it like you can't be in combat and whatnot

[@suisiders7181]

As a Feral Druid I don't notice anything different in my rotation with the GCD changes. But Feral may just be one of those specs that didn't really get affected by it.

[@DoctorSinister1987]

I too am approaching this expansion with hesitation. There are many changes to classes that I dislike and I worry that islands will be over incentivized in terms of AP. If I’m having fun 6-8 weeks in then I’ll likely stick around but if not then yeah I’ll take a break for the expansion. I have listened to some of the music, it is outstandingly good, I am excited for that at the very least!

[@Daednumai]

Island expeditions where as you said, but I did one yesterday and the opposite team were out collecting Azerite (PvE NPC team) was a surprise as I was used to them just hanging out around their ship, made it more interesting.

[@sickofpancakes4424]

Does someone know what the "quest summary" addon on the left side is called ?

[@holyflygon]

idk i was playing a MM hunter for most of the expansion i dont think they can regress that play style anymore.

[@GeorgeNoX]

I did BfA beta for about a week preety hardcore, doing everything there is to do, and about a week in i started to feel really bored and did not feel the need to log in to beta since. Once i was done with leveling, all the quests, rep grinds and dungeon and raid testing i didnt feel like there is much left there to keep me playing. Maybe it was just because there is still some things missing i assume or something but it didnt really seem interesting enough for me to keep playing it. If that same feeling trasitions into live i dont see myself playing more than a month and then taking a big brake and coming in in like a middle of expansion after some major patches and then leaving again and coming back near the end of it. I hope it doesnt happen this way but i have this feeling that there isn't enough there for me to stick around for longer this time around

[@JakeIAB]

I'm gutted with how the xpac looks tbh, truly gutted :(

[@UTurn539]

lul

[@UTurn539]

saying what?

[@UTurn539]

hmmm, I don't know. Legion looked more promising than BfA to me. And Blizz kinda had to make ammend for 13 months of 6.2 which was one of the worst content draught the game had seen in a while. I feel somewhat cautious about BfA. I'll play it and if it hooks me I'll stay. (I stayed subbed throughout all of Legion, which is the only xpac I've done that for since TBC).

[@zXHipoXz]

No gearswapping is criminally bad. Yesterday in prepatch I was checking out m+ with guildies and some adds in lower Kara were bugged and needed kiting. So naturally we would them swap gear to do that to max effect (e.g. swap to mastery gear for affliction and use the slowing corruption ring). Of course we couldn't do that and the disappoint just hit all of us instantly. Just a suggestion of "Oh I can swap to x so we can kite these" was met with realisation of what we have to put up with now.

[@havtor007]

zXHipoXz you are doing 2 Large mistakes here you are thinking legion and using legion dungeons as a metric on how the system works in bfa.

[@zXHipoXz]

havtor007 I'm aware. The reason everyone else were going to swap (and the reason I wasn't solely planning on swapping legos) was for the aoe favoured stats. Legos in a forced kiting scenario was just the cherry on the cake

[@jedidiah4004]

@@havtor007 It was definitely exacerbated in Legion content, legendary sets etc. but trinket and even weapon swapping has been a micro optimization since the early days

[@havtor007]

@@jedidiah4004 yes and no. For pvp yes. For pve sometimes but most of the time it was not really worth it. As just playing the class having the right talents and those kinda things did more then what you could change your trinket outside of boss fight and in a fight you would want to use the weapons that increases your dps the most. You are however not wrong some people did do that but often times just playing the class better would be a higher dps increase.

[@machkeznho8692]

For War Mode with friends or others they should just add a prompt when you summon someone or go to group with them to give them the option to on the spot spawn into their War Mode session with war mode activated. IE: im a player with war mode off being summoned to a raid with people with War Mode on, the prompt would say the group you are being summoned to has War Mode enabled hitting accept will turn your war mode on are you sure?

[@Nightstalker314]

Heavily agree on the expedition stuff. Kill the other (npc) team twice and you have won. I don't see an actual AI working because they would abuse the surrounding environment or npcs to get you into trouble.

[@Magziesfuntime]

Allot of players are waiting for 8.1 to decide whether to call it quits on wow. I don't think Blizzard Knows this to be true. We'll see.

[@Jognt]

If 8.0 isn't enough to call it quits at, then 8.1 sure as hell won't be. That's like being in an abusive relationship and saying "I'll leave if (s)he hits me _one more time_ " ...

[@rachael3533]

Jognt no I'm giving it u til 8.1 bc I think thats when the game will be at its proper release state and I think it'll have interesting new content along with it. If 8.1 doesnt catch up bfa to what I expect in a x.1 then I'm done and I wont be coming back. I have plenty of games to take up my gaming time.

[@Magziesfuntime]

Jognt 8.1 will be a full expansion release patch. There will be allot more info by then released about where the expansion is heading. The fact is that no one wants to leave cause we love the game and the community. However players are tired of getting crapped on every expansion. Every the fact that Preach might call it quit should tell every something.

[@awfullyawful9779]

I think what will happen is expansion will go Ive it’ll get stale when people hit max give it a month or so and let those player numbers start dropping and BAM they’ll release the next set of allied races.. zandalari and kult humans. then everyone will come back for that of course..

[@Magziesfuntime]

Those Allied races are locked behind story lines. They can't just up and release them. Not till the expansion story get to that point. Also this isn't just a this expansion thing. they have been ignoring the community for over 3-4 expansions now.

[@cronoedge]

Sounds like war mode and phasing have completely fucked grouping for world content.......is classic out yet?

[@bombademar4711]

Boralus is a zone? I thought the third alliance zone was called tiragarde sound Kapp

[@blacktooth90]

now that legion is done I would love a video on your opinion on all the xps over time from bc to legion. What they did right? what they did wrong? what they got rid of that they shouldn't of?

[@Jamie-ux8sk]

Does anyone know if we'll be able to buy our exalted reputation mounts in BFA as I really disliked having to farm rep endlessly to try to get the emissary caches that have an extremely low drop chance of dropping mounts in legion, still haven't got a single rep mount.

[@AndersMurberg]

I find that when you kill someone in the world while trying to get your world quests done, they try to kill you later while you are busy fighting mobs or whatever, so it's usually counterproductive unless you are specifically there to pvp.

[@CaptObvious22]

When it comes to warmode and rep, you don't get any additional rep. You only bonus Azerite, Gold, and War resources. So if you are only doing the world quests for rep you don't need to be in a group.

[@CaptObvious22]

The rares iL gear dropped the moment it was abused in the beta. The iL is now 340 and no longer 355. The warfront last I recall still gives gear each time it's completed of iL 340 as well.

[@CaptObvious22]

When it comes to the scrapper, It gives materials back according to the profession required to make it. A cloak will give cloth, leather gear gives skinning materials, mail gear gives skinning, plate gives ore, Trinkets give Expulsom. They also heavily nerfed it from what it was at initially. I've only seen High level gear, mostly from warfronts, break down into a good amount of materials.

[@CaptObvious22]

Level 115 is the last level Legendaries will work at; 116 and up they will not work.

[@samsilva-cairns8799]

So I've watched your videos and got a bit of an odd question. I played this game but my computer old. Is there a class that doesn't have the shiny new graphic a class that's easy to run on a hamster computer I got good connection just the graphic card is ancient. I thought mm hunter be fine as doesn't look flashy. I be on low setting so probably be best to be range. Any help is appreciated.

[@bigdeadanimals]

regress in classes is really athe huge issue here(

[@mattmccgowan]

so the war fronts will be faction dominated cause every server if either horde or ally dominated

[@DigitalIncomeMastery1987]

whats the music in the backround on 12:50 ?

[@JoshSmiththeoneandonly]

what quest tracker are you using on the right in the video around 13:32?

[@nicovandermerwe7573]

For War Mode, they can make it that you can join a war mode enabled shard but not the other way. It will negate Blizzard's restriction

[@mmogeek1]

WoD powered us down a lot as well. The massive ability pruning and some class features taken away to be given as ''leveling perks'' later down the line.

[@AldinoJazmi]

Would you create a new ui guide for bfa? Please

[@dualitycat]

Enjoy a well deserved vacation.

[@kennethspruce7157]

I remember in Beta you could port the AB from the new hub and kill the rares once you've unlocked them. The rares were resetting daily, did they change that in the last few days?

[@CuthiePatootie]

Started on a pvp server, then to an rp-pvp server. Rp ran dry, so went to RP server. Been missing wpvp ever since. Prepatch hit, I hit War-Mode on, and the cities are empty. :( And I can't use group finder on Argus for invasions because they're not in warmode. Blaaaah.

[@PixelCreep]

I love the pre-patch but maybe that's just because I'm a fury warrior wrecking ball of meat and axes. Main thing I'm worried about as an altoholic is that there was SOOO much content with the class order hall stories and I don't know if BFA will feel empty without stuff like that

[@InCardiaSnoop]

When is your UI comming, Preach?

[@Xcitng1988]

What would you do if you did call it a day?

[@BobMerlinx]

You know it's a good video when you don't realize it's 44 minutes long until it's over... Very well done, Preach!

[@Benji594]

I coined the Eonar trinket about 16 times before i finally got my ring >.

[@NerdishGeekish]

Would it have been so hard for them to just add in another talent row? Just move the one that is currently at 100 to 105 and add a new one at 120. That way you have plenty of space to add back in most of the artifact abilities and interesting golden traits.