PREBOLICS: THE LOST OLD SCHOOL BODYBUILDING NUTRITIONAL SECRET!!

[@Blebona]

I have never heard of the endocrinology approach to muscle building, and the way you've broken it down just makes sense. The major influence of synthetic GH effectiveness, and mitigating their potential harm, is somehow finding the correct combination of hormones to stimulate the desired anabolic response - which is different for every individual. But stimulating the glands themself to produce our inherent optimized proportions is genius - not to mention the holistic health benefits...

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Vince WAS a genius, as were the puoneers. Vince said drugs destroyed the sport. He was right. That is my purpose of reintroducing this approach to nutrition. To steer people away from drugs and build themselves NATURALLY

[@nishantyagi619]

​@@GoldenEraBookworm Perfect

[@KillerKrossChannel]

Been doing this Gironda stuff for a year or so now and my body has responded really well. Thank you for posting!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Your welcome!

[@johnerwin9024]

years ago, dude was talking bout yeast, yet ya never popularly heard nuthin bout it through media-

[@briseboy]

This vid alone should earn undying gratitude to our Golden Era Bookworm for his development of his channel here, and reproductions of information lost in the techno-world of exogenous neuroendocrinal analogues! As soon as the slide of Girondo's "nourish the Glands" came up, I recognized it as the source of much later nutritional information that guided my eating and high-intensity output for years. (4 1/2 to 9 hours per day, sweating 4-5 pounds each time, I realized that need for full restoration of what we can expend.) Right now, I've been chasing the sensory and neurological basis behind another of Bookie here's postings - that on Frank Zane and his "Stay Hungry [Longer]" . As excited as when pursuing the absolute limits of our minds and bodies, I can't translate the neurology itself into language for you guys and gals who are too overwhelmingly focused on this pursuit of excellence and making your lives work to drop back into college for a few years to grasp what's been discovered. I am always playing catchup, just as I felt when testing supposed limits and trying to monitor interoception, and the complexity of physical art. But here's a sample for you to work with: We have nerves that innervate our muscles that tell our brains how much energy is being consumed, and what balances are being changed. Underline that in your mind to comprehend Zane's and YOUR OWN evaluatins, impuses, determination , work. YOU, your body KNOW[s} what you are doing, what you are expending, what the multiplicity of sensations we too often just lump as "pain" mean. This makes Zane's zenlike, daily hanblechia (vision quest) offhand observation help you to point your mind back to ATTENTION. Zane in his youtube interview, mentioned that he didn't waste time trying to think about what he chose but just FELT. My whole life {so far!} has been about the adventure of physical limits and mental processes- most of which can be classified as either social/interactive with others, or or very consciously attentive to reality - which we interpret, sometimes mistakenly. Zane illustrates a major point: THINKING is NOT VERBAL Attention - real thinking(!), smoothly aligns new incoming information with all the sensorimotor information you have ever perceived. While certain aspects of development must cease n us animals- we aren't redwood trees that keep on physically growing (that would be cancer in animals,anyway, so our genes both turn off , and/or turn to producing anabolic [and catabolic] materials to keep adapting ourselves to each new moment of life. Ever single roman chair situp in his 2 1/2 hour adventure into it, reported information essential to his journey into the unknown. each moment of your attention is equally brilliant, insight-filled, informational, magnificent.. Now, Some observations on the supplement list at about 4:00 in the vid here.. Kelp was long sold cheaply in bulk dried and ground up (every coastal Californian has seen the kelp harvesters, although we've lost many of the big essential beds where so many fish and other organisms grow). It can easily be mixed with such stuff as orange and other juices, tempering their acidity. Skip the capsules - you can ingest much more to advantage. Haven't seen it up here in the redwoods, but I also have just collected seaweed drifted in on the clean coast. Wheat germ and wheat germ oil must BOTH be FRESH. when you taste ANY bitterness, its oils have gone rancid and too foul.Search for consistent quality, and complain to the seller when any batch fails. The Germ is filled with protein. Nutritional yeast is of differing species, the B vitamins are essential for best brain, and therefore body energy function. Varieties have changed since the somewhat bitter time of the original "brewer's yeast.") which in quantity could deliver too much Niacin - which is neurotoxic in excess. Modern yeasts have reduced niacin content, and perhaps produce the nontoxic -Amide form, still useful to restore neural energy. They WON'T cause neural-damage itch or burn when taken in excess. That yeast , by the way has been heated to kill it, and differs from live baking or brewing yeast. Use it! It's truly restorative to your brain, energy, and attitude , which gets exhausted by effort, pain, and the necessary rebalances occurring in catabolic reaction to effort. You'll become quickly again cognitively eager, and fatigue of long intense workouts will vanish. You'll want to attack your limits again with natural joy (I'll speak of yeasts in nature another time, but we are adapted to it.) It also has high proportion of amino acids - but the quantities you ingest are negligible)you can get to classical era size and strength without doping. Yeast has been part of bodybuilding diets since at least the 1920s. Only organically produced livers are good and safe. They don't sell the livers of doctored commercial bovines any longer,because, as I posted elsewhere, the damaged and diseased livers of commercially produced antibiotic and anabolicgrowthhormone-jacked livestock look awful. As you remember,livers filter toxins from ingested foods, trying always to empty it back into your elimination and excretory systems. BUT, it ALSO stores fat-soluble vitamins (and never eat livers of apex predators - thy have collected toxic levels of A and D. Cows and us both produce an exactly similar molecule of Insulin-like Growth Factor1 (IGF-1, and probably -2. I haven;t checked on the latter. (for those who have indigenous NorthAmerican roots (Bookie didn't say, but he's probably Australian), the fresh raw liver was teh first thing cut from the cow buffalo/bison. hoisted in ecstasy and shared by the killer It has always been almost vital food. Asa scientist working with wolves, I can tell you that they, too, prize FIRST the liver and lungs. These are beings of cation to exhaustion and exuberance. Find a wild organic source to join us, and as Bookie says: "FIRST, HONOR THE LIFE THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN , THAT GAVE ITSELF, TO YOU." THIS is the origin of all sense of gratitude, the most basic loving emotion in us, from our beginnings. OK. SAME with organic glandular organs. Brains including the coveted HP,and Adrenal cortical on kidneys, have always been prized . Due to some prion disease,though, (I could go on technically about proteinaceous infectious particles, CJD, CWD, and their variants at book length, having been involved in dealing with this dangerous always fatal slow protein-flipping disease,. For health, always use well cooked brain-related products. You don't have the extreme stomach acids that protect the wolf and other carnivores, and though you may not produce your own structural proteins exactly like those of other animals, never play with the possibility of kuru, as they call one in New Guinea, or Mad Cow,or any possible zoonotic prion. Instead, REMEMBER that our bodies synthesize what we need from more basic constituents, except in the case of about 10 amino acids and the essential vitamins. We, and our agile gracile immensely strong forebears, lived in abundance of essential nutrients for tens to hundreds of millions of years. Some raw foods are not safe, due to the fecundity of life itself, always seeking new viable niches, just as you and I. I'd add garlic to the noticeably healthy ginseng (North American ginseng remains so prized the Chinese and Koreans, that they import our local boy. It's noticeably better than the east Asian species, to those sensitive to its effects) Kalo Kalo is an alternative spelling of what Hawaiians know as Taro (it's pronounced the same , with French Polynesians accepting this reduplicated variant spelling!) Root. Now, I'm a fan of its purple Poi, one-finger, two-finger, or thin three-finger Poi, from hard-charging teen years in Hawaii. But its' pretty much to my knowledge only cultivated by Polynesians, who originated as daring sailors in Taiwan or adjacent mainland China. It's mostly a good sweet somewhat low-glycemic-index carb. You can also choose yams or other slow-burning carb sources. Oats treat you well. I was an extreme fan of vitamin E, present also in wheat germ and WG oil. While research has not supported its restorative effectiveness, I remind you that none of the research was done on top-end energy users like you or me. We are far more physiologically sensitive than are the overfed sedentary. ( as analogy, look at their insulin resistance compared to intensely active individuals. That molecule is produced in quantity daily) It has some noticeable effects, such as correlation with SLIGHTLY higher blood pressure. What I found in those long peak exhaustion years , was that it seemed to substantially improve my recovery. Always highly critical of EVERYTHING, I experimented without bias,, ceasing its use for a month or more,and always gaining advantage. GO with it to keep anabolic. I learned at last, in part due to Bookie and my honoring and eating with love and gratitude, to choose free range eggs above all.Happy chickens and ducks making extra food and content with our protection against the local grey foxes and coyotes!. Eggs looking orange like those Venice/Muscle Beach sundowns of golden era yore, are filled with essentials, including the amino acid balance closest of all things (even meat!) to our own. Can't list the micronutrients in this way-too-long essay to you. Just leave some for the chix to raise, and you'll swim in the fierce harmony of life! I'd add several options of native fruits, nuts, and berries, to the list,as their presence and absence are strongly detectable in an aware diet. But your adventures are YOURS, and out of this list, Hope I helped anyone out there. He hetchitu yelo. - and to you all and your journeys, Aloha Kakou!

[@incorectulpolitic]

what brands of wheat germ oil do you personally use?

[@carlosviolante9826]

I need more from you..what books are a good baseline ? Did Zane right a book? Was it helpful? I've read some articles but never able to consolidate the info into something I can refer back to

[@480yolofordonuts7]

Thanks man

[@Josh_wenig_Licht]

Did you ever make that follow-up video on desiccated liver? I would be very interested in seeing it.

[@monadamus42]

Yes! Please do follow up with more liver research. I've been on the Bulletproof diet for 2 years now (best diet so far!). The founder Dave Asprey was asked in an interview what would be the number one absolute healthiest food someone could eat. His answer: Grass-Fed Beef Liver. I looked into it and organ meats are pure nutrition and I can verify optimize the shit out of your hormones. I have never been hornier or felt manlier than when I'm on Beef Organs consistently. Definitely a massive bang for your buck. I take and love Ancestral Supplements Grass Fed Beef Organs. I'd recommend leaving a link to Amazon, Golden!

[@theserpentshaman5027]

Ginseng is a beast of an herb. The buzhong yi qi ginseng formula is golden.

[@clausmatthau6517]

1000 TIMES Thank u for your work!!! best man!!! how is the name of your book, with all content for prebolic diets? greetz From Germany/Berlin

[@the300XM8]

Those informations are golden. Thank you so much

[@carlshoemaker5590]

great video! been using desiccated liver for a year or two now, love the vince Gironda stuff.

[@catyear75]

You present such fascinating information-- I'm always learning something new ! So glad I found you and subscribed! Cheers !

[@MsChicoro]

This was sooo good! I loved this, thank you. First time hearing about prebolics. Vince Gironda never ceases to amaze me. I never knew you had to build your endocrine system first. Looking forward to more videos on pre-bolics. I'm excited! I like the thorough and well done video. Great job, GoldenEraBookWorm!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Thanks, it's a subject I have wanted to talk about for some time now

[@virginia4032]

You are fantastic, man. Keep it up. I’m glad somebody finally made a channel like this. This is amazing. I LOVE old school bodybuilding and you have taken it to the next level. Thank you

[@holisticbiohacker8144]

this is just what im looking for. thanks

[@sonofolaf1175]

Thank you for the video I always like learning about the classic physique

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Welcome

[@STERLING43O]

New to this KZbin channel and it's becoming my favorite. Thank you for sharing old school knowledge with us. 💯👍🏽💪🏽

[@fredazcarate4818]

Brilliant work and research Sir.

[@thaerjasim4549]

Lovely informative video thank you ❤

[@pascalhackbeil3888]

Ahhhh very good! You have found informations on the kelp dosage that vince recomended ( i asked you in one of your other videos) i have to try this high dosage again to see what happens. Thank you very much for this and of course all your other videos!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Be careful with iodine and kelp. I don't promise anything. These are all Vince's recommendations

[@jymmyjaymes]

I got big and strong on Weider's "Dynamic Muscle Builder" (Meat, Egg, Yeast, and Fiber) I swore by that stuff! I also got ripped using his Choline, Inositol, B6 , Methionine formula. I prepped for shows with it, and without. Definitely worked for me, without it I couldn't get nearly as lean!

[@jymmyjaymes]

@@incorectulpolitic unfortunately this protein based powder is no longer available and I don't remember the nutrient amounts.

[@incorectulpolitic]

​@@jymmyjaymes how much meat, eggs, yeast, fiber per day. What types of fiber and how much per day?

[@poetgb]

This article is specific in the information you include here by Vince Gironda. To build anabolic effect using glandulars seems to make sense. I don't know much about this subject, but watching your videos helps me learn. This information is worth looking into.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

That's what I wish to do, look into all this. It's fascinating

[@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728]

it makes a LOT of sense, since animal (well raised/wild) organs are the richest sources on EARTH of the fat-solubles vitamines (A, D3, K2, plus stuff like cholesterol and Omega3), who are the most important in our body, to absorb, utilize, transport and synthetize everything !! from hair to hormones,. ! it's just the most powerful principle of nutrition It is an ancient knowledge among every ethnics cultures, the most muscular + longest life + best facial development being the ones consumming the most of those vitamins sources. They even praise things like liver, and use to reserve certain food for hunters, pregnant woman and lactating ones

[@poetgb]

@@GoldenEraBookworm Yes I agree, it is fascinating.

[@poetgb]

@@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728 That is interesting. It makes me wonder about those who advocate vegetarian diets. It seems like they are afraid to eat any animal food.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

@@poetgb I'm not against vegetarian diets at all. Or vegan for that matter. But extreme endeavours like bodybuilding worked using the natural approach back then because they understood the body and how to create an anabolic environment using animal protein, in particular organs. The whole subject of organ nutrition is complex but fascinating, and bodybuilders seemed to have understood it and applied it successfully back then

[@thefirmamentalist9922]

You’re doing the Lord’s work, sir. God bless ya! Every one of your videos is a game changer.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Thank you

[@cellulersweller6562]

I remember bsck in the day stocking up on des liver tabs, it always made sense to me.

[@NicholasVillalobos-zl5dw]

How many servings per day with dessicated liver pills? I only take 4 capsules a day but do you need more if on a carnivore high fat diet? Please help. I hear the old school guys took up to 30 capsule a day. Seems excessive to me. You could get vit A toxicity

[@ivor9383]

For some reason, it feels like the physiques were more impressive back then because they used less gear. I came up with an analogy like; when you add a lot of sugar in a cake, it's almost as if it's less sweet than when you add just the right amount because it suffocates the taste. Back then the gear wasn't as strong and they optimized EVERYTHING and used a minimal amount of prohormones.

[@joelthompson4796]

Ya everyone knows the gear back then was g2g very strong no underground labs making fake shit or watering shit down like they do today back then most people got there gear right from the pharmacy

[@moncadaernest4915]

Gear was on point back then quality and dosage not no more

[@stevencraigbryan3770]

Loved Rheo Blair products. Great protein. The closest I have found to the protein is from Beverly International

[@matilizm]

As i know brewer yeast is used by Bruce Lee aswell in his protein shake for digestin issue i guess and for other benefits of it

[@noelht1]

I’m talking about Joe weider’s mega packs. They were awesome.

[@LTPottenger]

You can't generate mitochondrial energy without b vites which yeast is full of, and carbs burn through these vites extremely fast and since people tend to go crazy on carbs today this supplement is more important than ever. I take nutritional yeast but if you really want mass you should also do brewer's yeast, which tastes delicious btw.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Delicious?

[@richardyoung1890]

Golden Era Bookworm I think he was being sarcastic!I have been taking Brewers Yeast for years and still hate the taste.The worst tasting supplement I have ever taken was Hoffman’s Protein of theSea tasted like old fish!

[@LTPottenger]

Nah I absolutely love the taste. Very tangy.

[@incorectulpolitic]

@@LTPottenger which brands do you use and how much per day? what do you think about fresh active bakers yeast? how much carbs do you think a decathlete should eat per day? i train 3- 5 hours per day, 6 times per week...

[@incorectulpolitic]

@@LTPottenger how much carbs per day is too much and how much is too little?

[@ront2457]

Great vid...sorry about my previous rant a few days ago...

[@thaerjasim4549]

What is the name of the music at the end of the video Any body knows thanks

[@fjmphotovideo6830]

Thats one of the reasons why in the 80's my friends buying liver beef caps and protein....

[@invisableobserver]

Unfortunately all wheat has been genetically modified since 1984, the gluten content in wheat germ oil is no longer safe to ingest, it will make you fat and more gluten sensitive. The purpose of genetically modifying the seeds was to kill insects, it also has a toxic affect on all life. Could flax oil be an alternative?

[@JR_ST]

Is this something that you can do indefinite? Or is it something done in a cycle? I’m still learning about bodybuilding and nutrition.

[@jaydubb85]

Check out a company called Ancestral Supplements. He's right historically people ate organ meat and bone marrow, something most modern humans do not do anymore. Observe carnivores in the wild, they go directly for the organ meat first, then the flesh. Great Video!

[@jawbaw6471]

Lions typically lick up the blood first then the organs then some meat. Sometimes leaving meat to be cleaned up by scavengers. BTW I love organ meats.

[@chadtimmons5246]

Liver king

[@cdubs2697]

@@chadtimmons5246liver king was a fraud. 13/10 he probably didn’t even eat liver or organs. Just duped his followers into buying his programs

[@zefsamurai1366]

This is great tho seriously, thanks I really had no idea about this ,I will be incorporating these teachings ,and looking further into it.

[@djgiga2]

Interesting. I do eat alfalfa it's just sprouts. They taste good in a salad. Of course vetables are good for you hard to argue that. But I will get it more now that I learned it's good for joints and tendons which I have issues with.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Me too

[@joshuafernandez271]

No dudé i can argue veggies áre unhealthy and specially sprouted crap,anti nutrients and fiiber áre not necessary for survival but animal fats and proteins áre..

[@jf6414]

Great job Bro!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Thanks

[@MindBodyWhole]

Great summary. I always assumed it would have been pronounced “pre-boll-ics” as opposed to “bow-lics”. Like “Anabolics”.

[@macss6615]

1 month ago I got into the liver pills and they make ya feel good mentally ………...tonight you just upped my game lad cause id no idea bout these supps but if they as good as the liver pills then I am onto a winner!! ;-)

[@stind1299]

Yes I remember my student days and eating lots of liver tablets after reading 'The Wild Physique' by Vince Gironda in a Library. They do give you a sense of wellbeing. Problem is you have liver breath and they can lead to some rather nasty wind. Not a hit with women. Nevertheless they are great.nutrition for bodybuilding.

[@maxime4924]

This video is very interesting !! One question I eat wheat germ daily but it's not oil so is this a problem ? I eat brewer's yeast cuz there is a ton of vitamin B in there and for vitamin C i take lemon juice squeezed by me of course !

[@sncnutrition7118]

Nutritional Yeast is better than Brewers Yeast

[@darktanguy9240]

Hey there, I can't find multiple glandulars in the UK, do you think a herbal version of these products would work?

[@james197091]

Carlos i tried to order fron the NSP site but the shipment to Australia is almost double the cost of the supplements themselves!! I use I Herb but they do not stock the glandular /orchic products....a pity as i am a huge fan of Vince and his training methods and have all his programs

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

That's one of the issues with NSP. I agree, shipping is expensive. Swansons sell beef orchic. I'm getting mine from there. I'm going to go all out this year on Vince's diets. There is something there I wish to unlock...I am this close

[@rickj895]

great great video thanks

[@lambisi]

Wheat germ oil will oxidize very fast. Cod liver oil is more stable. And I think it would be a good substitute.

[@timeckel9611]

Whats Kalo Kalo? Its the plant from Hawaii correct? I looked it up, and there seems to be no supplements for it.

[@jjjuhg]

Wheat germ has aminoacod lysine that we need to balance the extra arginine that we have from eating meat every day. Unbalanced between these 2 aminos brings problems, also too much arginine feeds the bacteria and viruses. Lysine for immunity

[@Richdadful]

Some of these prebolics especially herbs and multiple grandular are still available in homeopathy. Most are in mother tincture i.e non diluted so there is actual stuff in there. Alfalfa is a good herb it increases hunger noticeably, hence grehlin and is a hgh secretagouge similar to MK677. However ofcourse its not effective as later but has less chances to turn you diabetic. There is other stuff to boost your natural T levels, insulin levels and T3,T4 levels. These are effective but nothing like gear. But they are of course much safer.

[@sacriste]

In Franco Columbo's book on bodybuilding nutrition the three most useful natural suplements are wheat germ, liver and brewer's yeast. He says that the vitamins from those are better absorbed than the ones from pills.

[@robertthompson5501]

Sad to say Lewis Labs Staminex off the market a great desicated liver, brewers yeast, wheat getm oil and vitamin supplement . Any one else miss it?

[@MrJudo2go]

Such a good video. I remember reading so many of Vince's articles in Muscle Builder and Ironman magazine. I think that the principles worked, but to what extent is debatable. In the late 60's and through the 70's oral steroids were available to that certain in the know group of bodybuilders. Many people never imagined anything other than some protein powder and supplements was producing the huge muscular guys on local stages. Some doctors would prescribe or if you happen to live close to the Mexican border just get what you wanted.

[@dmg12345678]

newchannel dianabol makes training and nutrition protocols much more effective.

[@LTPottenger]

Yet everyone worth a crap did these or other supplement schemes, even going back to before the 20th century they used protein powder. It's only the dumbest gearheads who say supps don't work at all. They just don't work as good as steroids obviously, but then steroids do not directly build any muscle whatsoever you have to train and ESPECIALLY you must have plenty of good nutrition something people today seem to have no grasp of. Even mc donald's diet is better than chicken and rice garbage for growing muscle, this stuff is light years ahead of that regardless of your natty status.

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

This is true. But this system worked for certain BodyBuilders that remained natural. All will be revealed this year. It's an incredible journey back to the golden era of natural bodybuilding...

[@MrJudo2go]

@@dmg12345678 without a doubt. I use to sit and watch Sergio Olivia train at Duncan YMCA in preparation for the Mr. Olympia, and the first thing that he did after he showered and dressed was take the dianabol prescription his doctor provided. He would have still been great without it, but to watch Sergio train was like amazing.

[@mikaeladisse8641]

Do you take all those supplements at once?

[@jawbaw6471]

Used a lot of Brewer's Yeast. Loved it. I never liked the liver pills. Tasted nasty.

[@joshuafernandez271]

Wtf dude pills dont taste unless you áre beast and Chew the pill that not Smart.

[@jawbaw6471]

@@joshuafernandez271 -- Such pills are not medication. They are food and work best if chewed so that salivary enzymes can help break down the food and improve digestion.

[@goldenerafanatic4042]

My older brother in the 80’s and early 90’s had the joe weirder anabolic packs, do a vid on how they were actual bullshit

[@anj2099]

"Joe Weirder" on the money there mate. This weirdo used to super impose his head onto other bodybuilders bodies.

[@yezzzsir]

I threw out half a tub of that Now brewers yeast about a week ago. Was about a year out of date & I didn't want to risk it lol!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

LOL

[@TheSpritz0]

Brewer's Yeast or any Nutritional Yeast products are only good BEFORE expiry or else there is a risk of mold...

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

@@TheSpritz0 That's my biggest worry about yeast too

[@TheSpritz0]

@@GoldenEraBookworm It's OK as long as you are within the expiry, and YES I combine the Kelp and Alfalfa every day, it works!!

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

@@TheSpritz0 interesting, what benefits did you observe?

[@midoibrahim6440]

does NSP ship to egypt ?

[@iluvmym4]

What was the big deal with Cod liver back in the day? I’ve tried before & didn’t see any benefits 🤷‍♂️

[@mrslick58]

How long did you try it though

[@robertthompson5501]

Cod liver has vitamin D. Prevented rickets back in the day. Given to children. Fish oil can be from garbage fish. Cod liver is preferred as it is from Cod.

[@ivossmarttv468]

Always a good idea not to ruin your balls with steroids. Actually optimizing your balls through nutrition sounds logical too. Wouldn’t eating cows testicles instead of liver supply a more appropiate amount of needed nutrients for that?

[@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728]

Agree, Great food too if someone goes pass the visual... But liver is still the richest one in Vitamin A (retinol), which is the most polyvalent vitamin in the body and involved in hormone precursion and gene expression... and also in K2 which is kind of the last mentionned but not least in term of importance. testicles (I think you are talking about beef ones "?) are still an amazing food, but I am not sure it makes it more valuable than liver .. maybe they are some nutrients interesting ? tell me.

[@ralphlandon934]

Nowadays with science have we proven all of these are good to raise testosterone? For example alfalfa may be nutritious but it is high in phytoestrogens. How could that help in keeping testosterone high?

[@donpratt4877]

Some phytoestrogens are actually anti-estrogenic and act like SERMS/AI

[@ralphlandon934]

Don Pratt is that the case of alfalfa though?

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

That's why I wish to research Vince's claims

[@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728]

It's well-knowed, and those principles where applied by all indegenous cultures... Escpecially because glandulars and organes from well raised/wild animals are the richest food on earth of fat-solubles vitamins (A, D3, K2, and also things like omega 3 and cholestérol), which ARE hormone precursing. ;) Plus they are the most important one for all our body function, absorption, utilization and transport of everything, synthesis of hormones, cells regeneration and gene expression... So of course it helps ! But it would help for testesterone to reach natural limits, not go beyond them. Everybodt that follow a diet rich in easily bioavailaible fat solubes vitamins (+ all the others) can give a testimony of how it affect the mood, the energy, the sleep, the sex drive, the recovery.. ;)

[@ralphlandon934]

Golden Era Bookworm certain ones I know would work like liver. But alfalfa, wheat germ, kelp, and yeast would be interesting to see the effects they would have on test levels and free test levels with today's science... love the vids though. Thank you for the posts.

[@raymondfarinas3169]

This stuff was superfood before superfood was hype. The only downside is that it was nasty tasting and hard to digest.

[@leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002]

Do you know what glands, or glandular supplements convert to when it exposed to stomach acid? Amino acids. It's not special after you dunk it in acid. And the B12 from Brewers yeast is an inactive analog of B12. So you would only get b12 from brewers yeast if you eat it twice. We are hind gut fermenters. There are all essential amino acids in alfalfa, but they are bound in the fiber so that we cannot access them. If you could they are in the wrong ratios, and could only be beneficial if combined with protien from actual food. There are alot of problems with these prescribed supplements. This has got to be Vince Gironda's dark side.

[@JackDannyable]

KZbin subtitles: pre bollocks

[@3Pillers]

👍

[@jessfrankel5212]

While Vince G. was ahead of his time, he was also just another hypocrite. Some good things he advocated were taking bromelain to aid digestion, as well as using eggs as an all-around anabolic food. However, all his big boys were taking steroids. Gironda said he was always vehemently against taking 'roids, but Larry Scott used Dianabol, as did Don Howarth and other big names who went to his gym. Granted, those guys trained very hard and, generally speaking, ate right, and my guess is that they didn't abuse steroids...but they still took them. Had they not taken steroids, would they have looked as good or nearly as good? Highly unlikely. At the end of the day, Gironda was just another shill-meister. The difference was that he was a knowledgeable trainer and pushed nutrition farther than anyone else around at that time. Oh, and Irvin Johnson was a huge believer in astrology, which caused him to change his name and start his supplement business. People thought his milk-and-egg formula was the secret to getting big...not without juicing. #sorrynotsorry.

[@tigerrr1227]

PreBallics

[@gnoubyaraby]

👍🏻

[@lwwells]

If only Ronnie Coleman had known!

[@zefsamurai1366]

I do this and anabolics lol

[@gamebros87]

Og liver king

[@vincentwilliams8685]

Genetics brings it all back to reality

[@KnoWhaImTalkmBowt]

Thats what science was before all this lab stuff.

[@Locreai]

Arnold used steroids, straight up

[@victorrubahimbya1124]

🥤🤩 they were definitely juicing ....

[@mariomiranda5138]

PREBULLOCKS!!!!

[@Metranger-xd4bt]

Wheat Germ Oil. Arggh. That stuff must be PUFA'd out. And oxidized PUFA's(rancid?). Bet they all didn't need any of this stuff. PLACEBO.

[@moorishg]

We are not idiots lol. Steroids play a huge part to it all 🤷

[@jparks6544]

don't think just because it's old "forgotten" method that it's better. then didn't have the advanced nutrition we have now and had to make due with what they could find.

[@dannydiamondboy]

j parks if anything their food was cleaner. everything in a supermarket has much more GMOs and bullshit than food did on the 60s.

[@jparks6544]

@@dannydiamondboy not really. margarine was around. tv dinners, etc. people always have eaten garbage

[@shannonmonroe5873]

As you get older your testosterone levels plummet even as early as 30 years old. For any of this to work naturally you have to have a sustained high level of natural hormone production...good luck with that unless you are 20 years old. Not that Vinces ideas about training and nutrition are wrong. But training stimulus and diet are highly individual. Hence, you have to see what works for you.

[@SavantP]

@lonnie919 your correct.. What you just stated is based on new studies.. I came accros that info recently.. To know what you stated is break through Information and can really help alota men from being paranoid unfortunately its big business in keeping that myth of testerone plummeting over 30 is big business nowadays

[@johnbmw550i]

From memory dianabol was the way then, not this stuff. Burtil Fox who I trained with at Dell Martins gym, would have laughed out loud.

[@samspangenberg3595]

PRE bolics

[@hankwilburn5906]

Laughing from prison for murder

[@jameswallace1858]

waste of money

[@ElLadoOscuro1984]

Come on man, are you kidding me?... the only real secret was (and it still is) the anabolic steroids. Stop sentimentality and be more realistic.

[@zenmodernist1]

umm pseudoscience