Predator 224 Build "Full Bottom End"

[@samsgarage1716]

I learn something new every time I watch your videos.I never knew that I had to boar out the galley hole.

[@fatbuddycat]

It helps get the honey back down into the pot when running vents and redistribute pressure. I run vented side covers because when you plug the governor hole on top of the block, you are essentially removing the factory vent....the governor arm is not sealed from the factory, sometimes on stock engines you find oil/dirt on tops of the block, that oil is being carried by the air pressure that escapes around the governor shaft.

[@chrischris3222]

You don't want to drill that hole out it is sized to fill that center chamber with oil and flood over to lude the cam tappits and excess oil will drain back to the sump if you drill it the cam tappits might not get enough oil. There was some thought put in that hole size!!!

[@chrisare187Racing]

I'm doing this build right now as I speak, and man this clearancing SUX! The bottom of the cylinder is where I'm having the worst time. I don't know how far up in there I can go. I guess it doesn't matter the rod just has to clear. Thanks for the video, it helps tremendously with my confidence with this clearancing!

[@fatbuddycat]

@chrisare187Racing you're welcome! I'm just an average guy with a little bit of mechanical knowledge. If someone else can do something, I believe I can accomplish it as well. We get knocked down by others enough throughout our lives, I like to be the guy that won't let people down.

[@DIYWilly]

Another power house build from FBC!! Can't wait to see it tear up the woods!

[@fatbuddycat]

It's definitely gonna need tires and brakes!

[@DIYWilly]

@@fatbuddycatjust watched your video again. I really need to find the time and find why my 224 will not start. It just sits on the table looking neglected..

[@gravelyman]

That was very interesting watching you modifying the block to make things vwork. Great job buddy 🔧👍

[@fatbuddycat]

It was a really good experience to have under my belt. I'm gaining a little more confidence with every build!

[@chrisare187Racing]

I'm doing good this exact build tomorrow and I'm a bit nervous to say the least. Mostly about clearancing the block

[@francoreia8147]

Would that small hole if it held back oil would it not flood out through the lifter holes lubricating the those tapes and cam

[@fatbuddycat]

@@francoreia8147 I'm sure some of it does.

[@albertpeterson7134]

Fatbuddycat. I have been missing your videos. Haven't seen many posted lately. Thank's for the videos keep them coming

[@fatbuddycat]

They are there, I still try for about a video per week. I haven't been posting the links as much on Facebook because I want to see how many people watch my videos on their own free will.

[@albertpeterson7134]

@@fatbuddycat I always appreciate your videos. Thank's

[@fatbuddycat]

​@@albertpeterson7134I have plenty more coming up, I keep telling myself I'll do shorter more view friendly videos but I like to be thorough on these builds for some reason. I edited 27 minutes out of this one alone!

[@nicsminibikes]

Hey man thanks for the shout-out! Much appreciated! I can't wait to see what you do with the top end!

[@fatbuddycat]

No problem! I appreciate the heads up. I'll be hopefully using some sort of rollers.

[@nicsminibikes]

@@fatbuddycat I used ec carburetors 1.3 rev rockers they are pretty nice. Took my .265 lift cam to .344.

[@fatbuddycat]

@@nicsminibikes that's a hefty lift! I bet it's awesome to ride.

[@shatnersufolanded7785]

Do you oil your tap when going in because I never know if I should or not.

[@bl_jacobs]

What head gasket did you use for the 224

[@JNC1973]

I am in the middle of building the same 224 engine. Just did the internal shaving clearancing and I also have a 275 cam I'll use for now while I wait for the 320 Cam I just ordered to arrive in the mail. I got the Go Power Sports Stage 4 Race Head I'm slapping on it too. .650 Venturi Stock appearing Race carb. 20'' tires. 4 Stage open header pipe. Tork-zilla Super 30 Series driver paired with a 7'' driven. I can't wait to feel the power this baby puts out. How many Horse Power if you had to guess do you think yours is putting out now? About? Then I can rough guesstimate what mine is putting out.

[@TheNikbkr]

What starter cup did you use

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

What would u pick a tilly stage 2 or 212 of course or the stage one wildcat 223 for the rsv frame

[@fatbuddycat]

Electric start would be nice on the RSV. It's not much of a performer, it's more of a high class utility bike.

[@Texas_bikes66]

Do you think my predator 212 could handle a 72mm piston if I take it to a machine shop

[@fatbuddycat]

If they resleeve the cylinder it could work but at that point I'd just buy a 236 or whatever.

[@benjaminwashburn8473]

Hey man I see your adds on FB marketplace all the time. I was wondering if you build engines for people ? I have a Baja warrior 200 I’m hoping to throw a nice performance built motor in. Would be willing to pay whatever you charge 🙏🏼

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

What would the 570 fit a 301 cc ?

[@fatbuddycat]

My truck has a 327....🤷‍♂️

[@MR_IC]

Quick question, So I know that the predator 224 and 212 are both 70mm bores but, does the 224 have a taller deck or are they the same deck height?

[@JNC1973]

Tall deck approximately .020" taller than the standard 196/212 block.

[@samsgarage1716]

This is the same exact engine that I built but I had a 265 cam and not the 275 that comes already cut.I ended up putting a stock cam back on because the 265 got damaged.I need to order a new rubber gasket that you got from OMB for the side cover I have.Where can I order just the small little round caps that go on the aluminum spring retainers?I lost a cap.I can’t wait to see how your engine sounds.Did you get the rockers?

[@fatbuddycat]

I think I'm gonna try some rollers on this one and jack the lift up some more. Are you talking the caps for the stainless valves with the billet retainers?

[@samsgarage1716]

@@fatbuddycat yes that’s the caps I’m talking about because I lost one.

[@Deucealive75]

Looks like they did a nice job with the three areas of concern on the 224 specific cams making it much easier for the builder. They have a lot of low end torque. For me, my 196 bike is just as fun and easier to ride than the 224 bike. I don't have to be as careful with the throttle. 196 power works well for how I ride. I didn't like the 224 blower housing and long starter cup so I used the Hisun 196 parts.

[@fatbuddycat]

I might be changing that on mine as well! It depends which carb I end up running and if i use a linkage. I've never gone over a 265 cam, we are likely gonna take it even further than that and really do some stuff I've never done before!!

[@fatbuddycat]

The cams feel good. I ordered both a cl2 for 196 and a 224. It's really cool to see the difference between them, I'll probably make a short video of those.

[@Deucealive75]

@@fatbuddycat That should be very cool. The nice thing about the CL cams is you can get your stock springs back into action. Want 7K RPM? Then get a CL4. Want a basic 5800 RPM and under build? Then get the CL1 original. I had one builder telling me about all the 265 and under cams he tested. Most of his comments were negative and called the 252 cam I used "lazy". He's an Isky cam guy. But he said of all the cams he tested he was most impressed by the CL series cams. A few months ago I did a basic build on a Hisun 196. That one got a Superman 265 cam from Dover power.

[@SacNguyen-kz9gg]

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[@jaystrappa]

Take that camshaft out already sheeeeesh lol Shes gunna be a rippa!

[@fatbuddycat]

Lol! I tried to pull the zip lock apart with my teeth but that bag wasn't giving up easy.

[@Yeremie18]

Really helpful video !

[@fatbuddycat]

I try to keep it simple and straightforward so others don't have to struggle or muster up confidence. I love building engines and learning new tricks.

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

After i use my drill bits ...i return them suckaz get that money back lol shiiiiiiiit

[@fatbuddycat]

I build a lot of engines. 😆 sometimes I take them apart and build other engines out of them after they are already built.

[@samsgarage1716]

The hardest part of this build is unraveling the plastic off the cam😂.I’m about halfway through the video.

[@fatbuddycat]

😆 I just went for it. Once in I wasn't giving up!

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

After u took the bolts use the ratchet to loosen them never go back to loosen them with the torque wrench piston with the error facing down CHEAT CODE this guy is great man with the info right holy phuuuuck 💪🏼💯💨💨💨💨 we good now Basically Profesionals

[@fatbuddycat]

@angrycruizer2o3 I'll be finishing this engine very soon.

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

@@fatbuddycat OK nuff Said every Lil detail counts I like that u explain things ad u ho man really helps the newbs like me out ya know💪🏼💯💨💨💨

[@fatbuddycat]

@angrycruizer2o3 I try. These videos are difficult to make and nail down all the important stuff. Sometimes I just want to let lose and really lay into people with some real talk but I don't want to offend anyone more than I already do.

[@zam893]

Clearing the rod dip stick all you had to do was make a straight line.

[@fatbuddycat]

If it works, it works, but I know what you mean.

[@Mason-Dain]

good stuff thanks for sharing

[@fatbuddycat]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

Yeah i seen this crazy kid on here grinding with the bearing exposed ya get a plastic bag the oil will act as a glue and u put the bag like a genius would or cut u some carboard oh yea u just did it lol good stuff

[@fatbuddycat]

I've ground things with the crank in before because my inch pound torque wrench busted. Not recommended but it is possible. Engine ran fine afterwards. Protecting the bearings and cleaning is key.

[@956bullypits3]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@fatbuddycat]

I've been crazy busy at work, I still gotta get the top end done.

[@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas]

💪💪

[@fatbuddycat]

I saw you guys in the GPS videos and now I want something that sounds nasty when it rips!

[@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas]

@@fatbuddycat right on !!

[@mklein5179]

Yo!!

[@fatbuddycat]

Hey!!! How you doing?

[@Texas_bikes66]

Do you have an email where I can talk motors with you