M18 Did we get the better pistol?

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PreparedAirman

PreparedAirman

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@robertbennett106
@robertbennett106 Жыл бұрын
I'll give you that you made this three years ago but as I sit here watching, with my M18 on my hip, I can say without hesitation that my weapon has none of the problems you stated.
@KedaWoodDye
@KedaWoodDye 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore my M18 even after 600 rounds. I bought this for my Son who is joining the Marines this year (2021) to be better prepared to qualify, field strip, be familiar with etc, but quickly has become my favorite Pistol over many Pistols that I have personally. Now I do not have a Glock yet, but I have really become a fan of Sig. I do like many Smith and Wesson's, and do not hqve a wide variety, but please, dont be mad at me Brothers lol I am still trying my best to build up, but times are very tough in 2021. Anyways, thank you for the video Brother, some of us truly do appreciate this with so little to spare: your opinion has an impact.
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper 2 жыл бұрын
I put a Romeo 1 Pro on mine and a "gas pedal" takedown, and man... it instantly became my favorite pistol by a large margin. Not saying I'm Annie Oakley but I feel like I can't miss with it.
@Whiskey.Tango.Actual
@Whiskey.Tango.Actual Жыл бұрын
@@innercityprepper does the "gas pedal" mess with your holster? I've been thinking of getting one.
@vikramgupta2326
@vikramgupta2326 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in 1984 when I was a junior in HS we had this weekly presentation where we had to present a short news bulletin of our choice in History class. This one day I presented the update that the military was replacing the Colt .45/1911 with the Berreta. My teacher Mr. Carter, a World War II vet, was outraged at hearing this. "WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COLT .45?" I sheepishly parroted the articles's reference to improved ballistics of the Berretta. That simply drew a glare of displeasure from Mr. Carter...I'm like, don't shoot the messenger man!!
@larrygibson9273
@larrygibson9273 2 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest days was when I turned in my 1911, and was issued an M-9. Like you, I learned to make it work. Got an early Sig 320, and now son has his own, and I went to XCompact. Love the Signess
@Jhubble515
@Jhubble515 2 жыл бұрын
The safety I love it being that close. In a fire fight it makes it very simple to drop the mag, reload and get back in the fight without having to drop the slide then the safety. This design makes it all one move and back in the fight.
@zurnie
@zurnie 2 жыл бұрын
The slide release\safety proximity issue can be resolved with practicing the slingshot slide release method over using the manual slide release. Still a minor issue but better performance through training. i.e. manual of arms.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
In real world use yes you can use the slingshot method but this requires training and that specific methods is not used or authorized in Military use. Everyday thousands of soldiers, Airman sailors and other DOD members armup with their m18/M17 and Required to use the slide stop/slide release.. hence the issue.
@socmonki
@socmonki 2 жыл бұрын
2022, just picked up an M18. Mine doesn't have injection molding marks, and the slide serrations are nice and crisp. Maybe they pay more attention now? Either way, it's an amazing pistol. Just put a flat faced Sig trigger in it, can't wait to see how that improves the gun at the range!
@jonphelps9712
@jonphelps9712 2 жыл бұрын
My M18 does not have the issues yours shows. No mold markings are shown and serrations are cleanly cut.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
They probably perfected and changed the process.
@FlashLight2317
@FlashLight2317 2 жыл бұрын
So, with the same frames, I could buy an M17 and buy an M18 slide. Then if I want, I could switch slides on a singular frame?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've tried it and it works just fine.
@FlashLight2317
@FlashLight2317 2 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman Perfect! Thank you for the response!
@t.k.morris
@t.k.morris 3 жыл бұрын
As of Jan 2022 now, have they improved the slide coating on the M17?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
I think they have made a slight improvement on the coating. My M18 is doing better them my M17.
@benl9255
@benl9255 7 ай бұрын
Mine is a truck gun, so I don't care about the safety switch issue you mentioned. I can say that I thoroughly enjoy a SIG SAUER product in 9mm that has full-sized capacity with a manual safety. The added reassurance of a safety is something that I prefer and require. As many people say "you can never be too safe", which I jive with. Great video!
@Dan-di9jd
@Dan-di9jd 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think any behavior where you're manipulating the safety during a slide release is dangerous. One of the biggest issue with the m9 is during a slide pull loading, you can engage the safety and thereby potentially finding the weapon will not fire until you release the safety. On the M17, I feel they solved this issue. I also feel like the point where you release the slide and disengage the safety, that is a design intention to avoid accidentally having the safety on during an actual fire fight. The P320 was never meant to have a safety but was a design requirements. On the beretta, a lot of folks would disengage the safety and simply carry it in double action. I also feel a lot of the special forces are used to glock type weapons without the safety so these guys would know how to carry the weapon properly. But I find for myself I am having trouble making sure the safety is off because it's a polymer pistol and I'm so used to not having a safety.
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 Жыл бұрын
Beretta has the D version of the 92 that does not go into safety mode. The lever is only a decocker and then springs back automatically into fire. Eliminates the issue you brought up.
@danielmccormick3611
@danielmccormick3611 3 жыл бұрын
M-18 I bought last week does not have any of those little "circles" you showed there
@nukeblue
@nukeblue 3 жыл бұрын
Good job - Perhaps one of the most informative videos on the patch to the M18 & comparison to previous issue arms. Off to check out more videos from you. - MSgt USAF retired
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those old airmen that carried a S&W Model 15. I bought an M18 about 3 months ago and I really love it. I have probably 400+ rounds through it, mostly Winchester white box, and no problems. I'm really kind of a 1911 guy, but I really like this M18. An excellent video.
@MrEmoor
@MrEmoor Жыл бұрын
When I went in as a law enforcement specialist in 1989, we were in transition from the S&W to the Beretta. When I first got to Edwards we were carrying the .38, and I think I was there for a year before we switched to the M9.
@truetoinnerself
@truetoinnerself 2 жыл бұрын
i just sold my glock 17 and bought an M18 and i love it. mine doesn't have the injection molding marks and the edges are beveled so im not sure what happened with yours. but it shoots well and feels great.
@Gothic1Actual
@Gothic1Actual Жыл бұрын
Note regarding differences between M9 and 92FS. Some 92FS have a slanted dust cover, and the M9 doesn't. I've owned both and carried the M9 during my time in the AF. Great video, thanks.
@kyleshortes4163
@kyleshortes4163 3 жыл бұрын
So I do not have the injection molding marks on my M18, I also fail to ever hit the safety with the slide release and I have large hands...if you want to make a difference put a Wilson Combat grip module on it.
@Alex-ib6tm
@Alex-ib6tm Жыл бұрын
Are all of the add on accessories (for the most part) interchangeable between the m17/18 and 320?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman Жыл бұрын
What specifically do you mean by add on accessories?
@Alex-ib6tm
@Alex-ib6tm Жыл бұрын
Sights, laser, red dot, magazines extensions, etc
@dansherman1980
@dansherman1980 Жыл бұрын
I got one and the only thing I don’t like is the mag release. Needs to be recessed a little to make unintentional mag releases less likely. Most holsters are for the regular p320 and not the m17/18. The mag release gets bumped sometimes and unseats my mag.
@crackshot4797
@crackshot4797 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we had the M9s in the Navy. I'm loving the SIGs though. Just picked an M18 up at my LGS 👍
@rtek777
@rtek777 2 жыл бұрын
Hated the grip module on my M18. Swapped it for a Wilson Combat and love it.
@rtek777
@rtek777 2 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bonazza III Didn't know they have AR grips too. I'll have to get one.
@rtek777
@rtek777 2 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bonazza III Saw it. 30.95 fir FDE. Definitely gonna get it
@deminybs
@deminybs 2 жыл бұрын
just got the M18 yesterday and already love it (only other pistol I've ever had is the c9 highpoint lmao, that I got from a friend for $50) 6:50 that's kinda what I like about it...you can do it all in one motion if you're in a pickle can't say 100% because I haven't shot it yet (too hot) but I tore it down/familiarized myself with it most the day yesterday.
@kentoncarter5613
@kentoncarter5613 Жыл бұрын
How can your fire a frozen pistol?
@RatherCrunchyMuffin
@RatherCrunchyMuffin 2 жыл бұрын
1:04 I know the M-9 generally is distinguished from the 92fs by having 2 dot sights instead of 3 dot sights, but for some reason all of the M-9s I've qualified with in the Air Force have also had 3 dots. From my experience the difference in those cases, is just the govt roll marks and serial numbers
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
Older ones were originally 2 dot or U shape. Beretta wanted to cut cost so instead of making 2 separate manufacturing lines they merged them together. All the newer variants or "replacement" slides have 3 dot sights. Including military ones. The 2 dots variants wernt really common just before the m18 due to replacement of old parts. It's kinda cool to find an older one.
@AmateurEngineeringBro
@AmateurEngineeringBro 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought my m18 and received my Wilson Combat grip and…DAMN. By far my favorite handgun. The stability and comfort of the gun as a whole with the WC grip is ridiculous. Now of course there’s better out there that I just haven’t spent the money on but for sub $800, it is my most recommended gun.
@danielangeldicapua4411
@danielangeldicapua4411 Жыл бұрын
Cuáles son las "mejores"?
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 2 жыл бұрын
Military had the snowman sights yep, its good to change the spring @ 5000 but as long as it works, also change your extractor and spring
@ellerybice3787
@ellerybice3787 2 жыл бұрын
Firearm’s Safety on or off, keep you digit off the trigger until your grey matter shows stage red.
@thethreeper7029
@thethreeper7029 3 жыл бұрын
The military still wanting a manual safety on their handguns is an issue itself.
@thethreeper7029
@thethreeper7029 3 жыл бұрын
@Yeet Cannon Outfitters you have to ask why though, most youngsters going into the military are more in tune with a Glock than a 1911
@AlexM-st1vw
@AlexM-st1vw Жыл бұрын
You’ve never been in the military for you’re saying this you must not understand how stupid privates can be 😂
@cliftonbellard1909
@cliftonbellard1909 2 жыл бұрын
Is the m18, a good conceal carry gun?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
I carry it but it all depends on what you prefer. It's fairly similar to the glock 19 and folks carry that alot.
@kendelvalle8299
@kendelvalle8299 2 жыл бұрын
They all get the job done.
@TactileLoki
@TactileLoki 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on joining the marines at some point and I’ve always liked the marines over any other branch so ideally I’d get the m18. Being my first pistol I know there probably better ones I could pick from but in terms of conceal carry would you say the m18 would be better than the m17 because it’s slightly smaller?
@superdave6415
@superdave6415 3 жыл бұрын
Would the baretta 92s Italian police surplus pistol be a good backup to a sks for a mm loadout
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
Only major difference that I have noticed on them is the magazine release is at the bottom of the grip but with training you can work around it.
@superdave6415
@superdave6415 3 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman yeah I noticed that and thought same my only problem with that is that you might not be able to change magazines fast enough if shit ever hits the fan
@luckylandy2945
@luckylandy2945 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I been wanting an M-18 soooo bad cause I recently stopped listening to the world about the shooting by themselves stuff and got a P-320 and I freaking love it. So now I want to build a Sig collection. Do you know anything about Sig putting out a new P-320 type gun anytime soon?
@tyrusthegoat4079
@tyrusthegoat4079 11 ай бұрын
I see sig just dropped the M18x with a new trigger and the Romeo m17
@luckylandy2945
@luckylandy2945 11 ай бұрын
@@tyrusthegoat4079 Oh snap, I'ma check it out. Thank you bro
@aaronbuehler1270
@aaronbuehler1270 3 жыл бұрын
the safety issue would be equal to every other handgun that doesnt come w a safety.. by that measure same amount of safeness as the M9 right
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
True statement but the military doesn't issue pistols without a safety, the reason for that is when you have a bunch of 18 year olds that join the military and have never shot a firearm in there entire life a manual safety definitely helps. Even with the safety we still have negligent discharges often.
@muxahx3096
@muxahx3096 2 жыл бұрын
For military use I will add decoder
@DanielLewisSEO
@DanielLewisSEO 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a stupid question, is the FCU the same for both guns? I assume since they are both p320 that they are the same. They look the same but I am curious.
@AlexM-st1vw
@AlexM-st1vw Жыл бұрын
Do you think the m18 a good carry?
@albertogorrin2860
@albertogorrin2860 2 жыл бұрын
When the Sig and Glock got submitted, did the Glock have the required safety? Manual safety on a double single pull are useless to me. Great video.
@Glock7eventeen
@Glock7eventeen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the Glock 19x had a manual safety for the army trials. But once they lost, they removed the safety and just sold it to civilians.
@vieuxacadian9455
@vieuxacadian9455 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Sir . '86-92 AF Vet . here . Sticky hands at -50 degrees below sounds like Minot, ND or Keflovic Iceland , LOL . I'd stick with the Glock first , or even an unmentioned Army Mark 25 second , FNX 3rd .
@bobyjones3905
@bobyjones3905 Жыл бұрын
I already have the Sig P320 full size it’s been a good pistol I wanted the shorter version. I chose the M18 because it came with 3 magazines and night sights rather than the regular sig compact
@casualplayah
@casualplayah 2 жыл бұрын
are the Frame Size the same Size between the 17 and 18?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@auklon3372
@auklon3372 3 жыл бұрын
My m18 does not have the molding circles
@PaNDaSNiP3R
@PaNDaSNiP3R 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really stuck on glock 19x or m18 🤨
@nycupperes
@nycupperes 2 жыл бұрын
Why not get a M9A3 or M9A4 if you love Beretta’s?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
I want one honestly but it's a matter of price.
@crazymike4894
@crazymike4894 Жыл бұрын
heavier The Gun, the more stable. It is proven fact built 👁️ built A 19 X and put weight into it shoots a lot more stable THATS THE GUN that lost to the contract for Sigg.😢
@stephenholton9216
@stephenholton9216 Жыл бұрын
1911. I carry one today. The only drawback is the capacity. You mentioned HK, and the VP9 has been eye stalking me...
@Ian-yk4pk
@Ian-yk4pk 3 жыл бұрын
FNX45 and M45A1 are peak aesthetic and you can't change my mind
@MyNameIsTimIThink
@MyNameIsTimIThink 2 жыл бұрын
That's weird my m18 doesn't have the mold mark or the slide cut issue. It looks flawless
@roymarlor7200
@roymarlor7200 3 жыл бұрын
Or you could rack the slide rather than using the slide release lever to load, you won't come near the safety if you do that
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
Off duty yes absolutely. But not on duty. We arm up shif and have a special procedure that we required to follow. We are not allowed to deviate from this at all. Using the slide release is required to be used when arming up.Unfortunately that's how the DOD works.
@Roland-bv7fx
@Roland-bv7fx 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to that question is NO. The Sig Sauer P226 beat the M18 on the testing. But it's more expensive to produce. So it all came down to cost. By the way Marines also uses M17s. They have both 17s and 18s. There's a couple of good videos here of Marines qualifying with M17s. About the safety issue the original M17/M18 (P320) was originally designed without the safety. That was a US military requirement. So I don't use the safety on my 3 pistols. There, problem solved! 😆 I got stovepipes with all 3 of my Sigs. However after 200 rounds that issue disappeared.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
The p226 was not in the XM17 MHS Competition. They were not tested head to head.
@Roland-bv7fx
@Roland-bv7fx 2 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman they were used by the navy seals. Based on that it's a better pistol. Also F-18 pilots use the P229 and some army investigative units carry P228s in .40 S&W. No complaints on the P226 series.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
Those aren't actual data based facts my guy....that's your opinion.. The fact is the P226 and the M18/M17 were never in a competition for the MHS together therefore one couldn't be determined to be better. And secondly the p226 was already replaced by the Glock 19 before the MHS winner was released..
@JEJAK5396
@JEJAK5396 3 жыл бұрын
Carrying with the safety off on a 1911 style frame safety seems very odd.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't recommend it.
@zp3495
@zp3495 2 жыл бұрын
Support hand slide stop release like A 1911, non issue.
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 2 жыл бұрын
side note - whats ridiculous is maintainance doesnt mention the 92/M9 extractor which is actually a weak point on it
@Bovineguy1
@Bovineguy1 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I bought the M17 because I like the way it fits my hand, it really is a fun gun to shoot. I guess if I was still in, it'd probably be the Sig.
@d7dun1010
@d7dun1010 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could tell me more about your or the military's thought on carrying the m18 with the safety off? How and why is it safe to do so? How has this worked out? Any safety issues noted? GSWs? PS: I often carry Glocks and Shields with no external safeties but with the m18 it just seems different?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
I will have another update video discussing these point soon stay tuned!
@maedhros0111
@maedhros0111 4 жыл бұрын
If I could, I’d choose the FN Tactical 45. By the way, do you think the Army should have taken the G19X? Thanks for the video and saludos from Spain 🇪🇸👍🇺🇸
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I just want the better pistol of the the two. Due to the DOD not testing the M17/M18 in its entirety we actually don't know if the glock is better then the sig or other way around. They only went with Sig because it was cheaper, 10 million dollars cheaper... so it was a money thing not a better product thing.
@maedhros0111
@maedhros0111 4 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman 10 million is a big deal if pistols are the question, anyway it would be better if they tried them entirely so those little issues you comment were discovered before. Are you in the Air Force too?
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Money wise 10 million is alot but on the battle field it does mean much. I personally want the most reliable pistol they have, not the cheapest one because its 5% (10M out of 200M) less then the competition... But Im not claiming to be an expert, this is just my opinion.
@sethwynn
@sethwynn 3 жыл бұрын
They also liked the modular aspect of the P320's frames. Small/Medium/Large frames were a big selling point. I love the M9 but it's a pistol for large hands. I'm not sure if the G19X ever got to that point - I've only seen interchangeable back straps from GLOCK.
@anthonygonzales6469
@anthonygonzales6469 3 жыл бұрын
A handgun is a secondary weapon almost entirely expected to be defensive thus the weight/size saving benefit of the M18 outweighs all other benefits of the m17. Its 100% reasonable when you have to carry one on your hip for 16 hours a day. After all, aside from SF/MPs, most troops won't be carrying a sidearm, its reserved mainly for officers/SNCOs. This is why special operation career fields almost always carry the Glock 19, it is smaller, reliable, and lighter than all the handguns shown in the video. The FNX-45 would have been a pain in the ass for everyone. Its too big and heavy.
@EvilWhiteGuy7.62
@EvilWhiteGuy7.62 3 жыл бұрын
The army is officially changing the pistol tactics with the adoption of the m17.. no longer is it a defense, secondary weapon.... they are being used and applied as cqb offensive weapons and will be issued to 3x as many soldiers as the m9 was.... it is part of the reason they choose the m17 over the m18.... just like stated in the video, he isn't the only one that shoots the 17 better. Longer sight radius, less recoil, and more velocity.. all played a part of choosing this so called offensive pistol
@knauffs1
@knauffs1 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvilWhiteGuy7.62 This is the best explanation I've read anywhere regarding the differing applications and selections of the M-17 vs. the M-18. Thanks!
@syntaxerorr
@syntaxerorr 3 жыл бұрын
My M18 doesn't have the molding circles. My slide doesn't have the semi circle cuts at the top...but I don't think that matters. It may even give better grip.
@morganml3983
@morganml3983 2 жыл бұрын
Literally just picked up a M17 today... can't wait to shoot it. If I was in the military I'd choose a Glock 41 for my sidearm. Its fits my hand and goes bang every time.
@t.k.morris
@t.k.morris 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and thanks for your service! Do you prefer hammer fire or striker fire? I don't shoot enough to know which I would prefer to carry in the military, just as long as it worked and was reliable to shoot accurately. Do you have any knowledge or opinion about the IWI Jericho 941 or thw EAA Girsan Regard series?
@therythymtherebel9332
@therythymtherebel9332 Жыл бұрын
Great video. And I have pondered... why don't (not that I've seen) We have holsters that toggle the safety on and off when holstering and drawing the weapon? Is that a tactical issue? Training issue? And does the Military reissue everyone with the new firearm? Seems ridiculous to issue a new sidearm to someone who been carrying something else for a long time versus ..."the new kids get the new toys" attitude
@mnguy98
@mnguy98 4 жыл бұрын
Carrying what's essentially a single-action pistol on fire, rather than having it cocked and locked, seems a little nonsensical to me, especially if someone naturally drops the safety on the draw. Then again, I'm not military, so I can't really judge the decision to make that a thing.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I would go even further and say manual safeties on handguns are absolutely pointless. Safeties on long arms are important because there are many times you have to sling your gun to free up hands, but can't simply unload the chamber each time you do so. With a handgun we have a holster, which prevents any free hanging trigger or floppy muzzle control loss. The manual safety becomes pointless as a result. The military uses it as a training aid (if someone forgets to manipulate the safety, it is a red flag they aren't following other procedures) but IMO the value is minimal compared to just enforcing normal discipline in training.
@ColdGrapeDrink
@ColdGrapeDrink 3 жыл бұрын
I got the 19x over the sig, best decision I've made.
@firkang1234
@firkang1234 3 жыл бұрын
I got both, so far i like the m18 better
@mixedmarksman5873
@mixedmarksman5873 3 жыл бұрын
@@firkang1234 😂 people always forget sig makes the most accurate handguns
@AlexM-st1vw
@AlexM-st1vw Жыл бұрын
@@firkang1234do you carry the m18?
@scott67nova
@scott67nova 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video on all the differences between the civilian m18 and the military version
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest from my inspection the only difference is the serial numbers. They are all mechanically the same.
@scott67nova
@scott67nova 3 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman every part? Only the engravings are different
@bobyjones3905
@bobyjones3905 Жыл бұрын
Of course a pistol with a longer barrel is easier to shoot accurately than a shorter one . As far as accuracy I’d chose the 1911 . I have a SA35 it’s very accurate
@TheBookofbeards
@TheBookofbeards 2 жыл бұрын
I took out my manual safety and changed to grip module
@PaulJersey
@PaulJersey 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the new M17 & M18’s. Hard to replace a classic beauty like the M9 and 1911.
@mickeychuma
@mickeychuma 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!😁👌🏼 I’m broke my brain, what better pistol buy for first gun!!?
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 3 жыл бұрын
Any one ,I bought a nice used Beretta 92f and a used Glock 19 and the both are great guns .And I got a new Sig 320 . All great guns .And you can probably find some at a good price .
@JohnDoe-zg6fn
@JohnDoe-zg6fn 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between a Glock 19 Beretta 92f and a Sig M17. It would be the Sig all day. Then the beretta then anything else except Glock lol.
@v.german11b
@v.german11b 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👏🏼 I am a huge fan of the Sig Sauer P320 M17. It is a grrrreat pistol at a fair price. Very accurate, and the frame can be improved with a Wilson Combat modular frame, which has great ergonomics. No reliability issues so far. I carry it concealed often.
@ericachenbach2617
@ericachenbach2617 3 жыл бұрын
I’m former Army, and used the m9. I believe the best choice for the next pistol would’ve been either Glock 17 or 19x. Simplicity and reliability are the most important factors in a military weapon in my opinion.
@heaterfamily
@heaterfamily 3 жыл бұрын
Can you image none gun people with a Glock...look up nypd and ad rate.
@heaterfamily
@heaterfamily 3 жыл бұрын
@@hayden8491 yes I know. But a Glock you must pull trigger to take apart. Which means the safety must be off. Gets.
@Dan-di9jd
@Dan-di9jd 3 жыл бұрын
@@heaterfamily Well there are a couple of issues with your assumption. NYPD used a revolver up until the Glock replaced it. The problem is many of the old timers were used to the revolver DA pull so with the glocks, they're finding they found the trigger too light. So they upgraded them to a heavier spring. As far as I know NYPD is the only department that had they "NY Spring" upgrade. As far as the AD situations during the 80s and 90s with glocks, the problem is during training events with new PDs, they'd have at least one person per class take it back to their room and do what they're trained to do: pull the trigger, and put the slide half way. The problem is no one bothered to tell them to make sure the weapon was unloaded before doing that. At the time, people weren't used to "pulling the trigger" to dissassemble the weapon as many of them used the revolver type weapon. Most PDs before the 80s/90s/early 00s had a revolver type sidearms. I don't think any PD today has a revolver type firearm but at the time, none of them were used to the system. Remember, many of these cops don't own personal firearms and many of them just use whatever the department gave them. Point is the safety had nothing to do with the ADs, except they were improperly trained.
@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 3 жыл бұрын
I just CANNOT pick a SHORTER SLIDE over a LONGER SLIDE
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
The long slide m17 does shoot better then the m18 in my opinion
@MFO46
@MFO46 Жыл бұрын
I carried the M9 in the Army. Not really impressed with it. I own a G19 (Gen 5) and it is my ‘go to’ handgun. I recently purchased a Sig M17 and I do not Ike the grip. However, I do like the manual safety.
@hgarza1136
@hgarza1136 3 жыл бұрын
M17 is now the exactly the same as the military. Military decided they wanted the controls in black.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, my issued m18 has them aswell.
@k4vms
@k4vms 3 жыл бұрын
MY choice for carry be and is 1st Hi Cap 1911(modern models handle +P), 2nd S&W 4006TSW(well it’s almost a .45 ACP and handles +P), 3rd Glock 21(because is in .45 ACP and it handles +P), Glock 30(it’s in .45 ACP, Sig P320 M17 with 21 Round mag(it can handle +P+ ammo it’s ballistic are close to .45 ACP) I own 2 or more of all the firearms I listed above and use them in my EDC. Which one on any given day depends of my dress, the environment I will be in, etc. I carry every day and I am LEO trained and train frequently. I enjoy you channel, and yes more of the same would be a good thing. Ricky from IBM
@k4vms
@k4vms 2 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bonazza III how many shootings / law enforcement simulated shootings have you been when your not under stress and can take your time for shot placement Hmmm
@Marcelofluciano33
@Marcelofluciano33 2 жыл бұрын
olá, vi alguns relatos de vídeos antigos 2017 em diante, onde houve alguns casos de disparos acidentais na P320. Estou avaliando a compra de uma P320 nitron ou G19. Porém confesso que após ler e ver vídeos sobre quedas com disparos acidentais, me desanimou a Sig. Aqui no Brasil, o sistema de modularidade não pode ser adotado, por uma burocracia burra de nossas leis.... uma pena ! Abraço a todos!
@deminybs
@deminybs 2 жыл бұрын
simple, just don't drop your gun lol ....
@Marcelofluciano33
@Marcelofluciano33 2 жыл бұрын
@@deminybs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaa5loeuoLiUoNU
@orlandoroman7359
@orlandoroman7359 2 жыл бұрын
El problema de los disparos accidentales en la P320 ya fueron corregidos.
@robertknezevic1
@robertknezevic1 3 жыл бұрын
I have them all but I carry glock 27 . For war I vil choose M17.
@johnhatchel9681
@johnhatchel9681 9 ай бұрын
M 18 is an excellent pistol especially if you're used to Glocks.
@bigbossoooo
@bigbossoooo 3 жыл бұрын
My Sig M18 is such a sweet shooter hardly any recoil and perfectly balanced. Beautiful, reliable and accurate what more can u want. I am so happy with my purchase.
@scott67nova
@scott67nova 3 жыл бұрын
I have one too love it feels kinda like a toy with the plastic but still amazing quality for the most part
@bigbossoooo
@bigbossoooo 3 жыл бұрын
@@scott67nova I am not sure if your used to full metal handguns why it feels like a toy. I just put some talon grips ( moss colored) on my m18. Going to the range to see how it works. I also agree with the quality I have had mine for 7 months now with no issues and just over 800 rounds on it with no malfunctions what so ever.
@resisteretyrannis959
@resisteretyrannis959 3 жыл бұрын
The gun has issues honestly not new user friendly.
@bigbossoooo
@bigbossoooo 3 жыл бұрын
@@resisteretyrannis959 everyone has different options. My experience has bin very pleasant.
@reachblowsdick7222
@reachblowsdick7222 3 жыл бұрын
The M18 isn't as reliable as I thought it would be, it's super picky about ammo. I'm not the only one, even KZbin gun channels like TheHonestOutlaw and 1911Syndicate had issues with the M18. Also in the MAC Gauntlet torture test the P320 didn't survive the run. Not to mention all the drop safety issues and accidental discharges the P320 platform has been having even just last year. In one incident a man's wife was fatally wounded by their P320, that case is still ongoing. The only Sig I trust with my life is my P226 made in West Germany, I don't trust these fake Sigs coming out of New Hampshire.
@uvb369
@uvb369 3 жыл бұрын
you made a good point about the safety
@MrMccoy1983
@MrMccoy1983 3 жыл бұрын
M-18 accuracy is terrible. Find the spot you want to hit and then move the sights up and to the right.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
Personally haven't had that issue yet.
@MrMccoy1983
@MrMccoy1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman It was something brought up by our CATM section. I noticed a difference immediately.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a crown issue.
@pauldesautelle8750
@pauldesautelle8750 3 жыл бұрын
My sights were spot on right out of the box.
@garysnowden9103
@garysnowden9103 3 жыл бұрын
You must be stationed in Minot ND
@rogermitchemjr6722
@rogermitchemjr6722 2 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion the Beretta 92fs is the best, but that's the one pistol I have the most experience with, problems with Sig Sauer pistols are as common as the sunrise I personally would never trust the P320 or any variant of the P320 line too many problems on the past, Beretta all the way for me
@jamescopeland5358
@jamescopeland5358 4 жыл бұрын
1911 45
@Ddayboy1944
@Ddayboy1944 3 жыл бұрын
I have an M17 and would gladly carry it for a SHTF situation, just because it has so many pros, for me personally. 21 round mags standard(mine came with 2 21, 1 17), plus when you buy the Wilson combat frame it’s a game changer
@syn629-C
@syn629-C 3 жыл бұрын
Typical military… if SOP is to place the thumb safety to the fire position when you holster the weapon, why have a thumb safety at all? (Btw, I do miss my issue M1911A1)
@derrickforeal4739
@derrickforeal4739 2 жыл бұрын
Sig p320 compact 45 acp 👍🏾
@fin_jan
@fin_jan 3 жыл бұрын
Your experience and idiosyncratic opinions are what make your video worth watching. Thanks!
@3rdcoastborntexasrasied36
@3rdcoastborntexasrasied36 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@justinp1471
@justinp1471 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure you would even feel your hand in order to shoot in -50F with a sweaty or wet hand. I'm no expert but your likely to get severe frostbite in my opinion.
@PreparedAirman
@PreparedAirman 2 жыл бұрын
The Military is out in temps like that evey year. We have mittens that will work but you cant use them while shooting.
@justinp1471
@justinp1471 2 жыл бұрын
@@PreparedAirman I used to be in FT. Drum used to get -15ish at times our mittens had at that time (2006) trigger finger seperate from rest of mittens in order to shoot but you have a good point. Not trying to hate just saying I'm sure guys do it, just wouldn't recommend.
@irafowlerjr.7492
@irafowlerjr.7492 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful info, thanks so much.
@keithypng
@keithypng 3 жыл бұрын
M9 made in USA 92FS made in Italy . Thats I love 92FS
@brock3426
@brock3426 3 жыл бұрын
I would roll with the glock or the m18. The glock I am used to and the m18 because in my opinion the m18 has a better feel in my hand I like the sight and just the way it points when you go to shoot. Only thing i would have to be worried about is that sig never fixed the issue with the gun going off in the holster so either don't have one in the pipe or make dam shure you got that safety on. My m18 is different then yours mine is not tan mine is all black.
@williammccaslin8527
@williammccaslin8527 4 жыл бұрын
If it was my choice it would be the FN,- 45, w/ suppressor, but that's just me. An thx for the vid bro, you were first on my feed today, unbelievable. Normally I don't even get notified when you put out a vid, I have to search for them, thx bro.
@curtschmidt918
@curtschmidt918 2 жыл бұрын
I like SigSauer M-17 pistol, it feels great shoots great, in my opinion a superb firearm!
@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 3 жыл бұрын
IMO... I don't think you will get the TIME out of the M18 as you did the BERETTA
@brikeswardebbarma4029
@brikeswardebbarma4029 2 жыл бұрын
I love M17 and FNX-45 tactical
@josephmoore3961
@josephmoore3961 3 жыл бұрын
I'd carry the fn 45 if I had ammo supply! Limited to fmj I would choose .45 acp.
@thekittygoesmeow9652
@thekittygoesmeow9652 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@3rdcoastborntexasrasied36
@3rdcoastborntexasrasied36 Жыл бұрын
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