Preserving Lost Japanese Games ft. @StopSkeletonsFromFighting

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@RockmanCosmo
@RockmanCosmo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you to DKYG for letting me and the keitai game preservation community work so closely with them on this video! We appreciate the opportunity, and we look forward to uncovering more keitai game history!
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for saving an entry in Capcom's most mismanaged spinoff sub series.
@olisol9687
@olisol9687 2 ай бұрын
Yay rockmancosmo
@shazmosushi
@shazmosushi 2 ай бұрын
Would love a similar video on the old J2ME games from (western) feature phones. Maybe not as interesting as Japanese ketai, but still facing the same preservation issues.
@olisol9687
@olisol9687 2 ай бұрын
I like the jumping dude
@luhibi1220
@luhibi1220 2 ай бұрын
​@@shazmosushi J2ME is somewhat preserved, it's the one on Qualcomm's BREW (such as the one distributed through Verizon's V-Cast service) and a couple more obscure mobile platforms that are not as preserved.
@EmeraldLance
@EmeraldLance 2 ай бұрын
11:20 That MF left his bomb shelter to go and grab some cell phone games to dump while he was under attack from the Russians?! That's a real one, right there.
@giovannifiorillo5046
@giovannifiorillo5046 2 ай бұрын
Right?! They don't share these stories in the news though
@904funny
@904funny 2 ай бұрын
Like a Call of Duty side character
@FangMcFrost
@FangMcFrost 2 ай бұрын
The guy is literally risking his life for video game preservation. He deserves a medal or ten.
@zorororonoraroro
@zorororonoraroro 2 ай бұрын
@@FangMcFrost They have a discord and the collection is in well build app... mostly java games, but they try to save all , from brew to mophun to korean platform
@safebox36
@safebox36 2 ай бұрын
Japanese game preservation is a bizarre phenomenon. Because the Japanese gaming community isn't big into preservation even within the Lost Media community, but the ones that do exist are on obscure blogs and websites that are hard to find even for those that can search in Japanese. Like gaming history in the East in general is fairly unknown to westerners. A lot of gaming "firsts" happened with Korean or Japanese titles that were for region-exclusive consoles or non-translated entries.
@CanterlotCrusader
@CanterlotCrusader 2 ай бұрын
​@@prestonrcasey It just feels especially weird to me when it comes to Japan since they are a huge pioneer in the gaming industry and really helped catapult what it is today, so you think they'd have more interest in preserving it to show their impact. It's not just "oh I remember that thing as a kid" it's literally people's career and a portion of their economy and global impact.
@Infindox
@Infindox 2 ай бұрын
@@prestonrcasey It has nothing to do with nostalgia, or if it does it's not the main reason. Japan has some weird laws and culture with media. They don't particually care to preserve stuff because they can get into some pretty big legal trouble. That's why a lot of the rom hacking scene is all Western countries.
@Vanity0666
@Vanity0666 2 ай бұрын
This is because in japan, preservation and public archival is explicitly against IP law within the country, and they have a severe conviction rate with lengthy sentencing.
@RoboticEdward
@RoboticEdward 2 ай бұрын
@@Infindox I also think it just ties to Japan as a collectivist society. Recently a popular foreigner living in Japan named Dogen released two videos called "Japan's Ticking Time Bomb", in relation to a mega earthquake that'll happen in the future, and "Why Japan Loves Small Things". Long story short due to Japan being a society that suffer disasters every now and again it causes everyone to try to stick together and making sure everyone is within the collective. As for how the "small things" part ties into it, it's a combination of Japan both loving cute things and how in moments of disaster, it's better to have small things that don't weigh them down so if they're lost, the damages won't be as insane. Like sure I could get that apartment with more space from across the street, but I prefer this smaller apartment since it's just nicer. It's all about perception. I think they don't realize what they really have and how stuff like that will never be around forever and it could be valuable to someone else. Either way it's not really a straightforward issue. Japanese game preservation can only go far if we can explain why it's important.
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 2 ай бұрын
And yet the only reason we have stuff like Electric Soldier Porygon or DBZ with decent audio is because of Japanese fans that recorded everything on VHS like clockwork.
@RadikAlice
@RadikAlice 2 ай бұрын
Much respect to Kraze, imagine your country's getting the scorched earth treatment but you're so dedicated you get out of the shelter just to do that
@DizzyDenver
@DizzyDenver 2 ай бұрын
Long time fan of DYKG, its been really incredible to watch this channel go from (and I say this with love) glorified gaming fact compilation videos with relatively common game facts, to the forefront of gaming journalism and game preservation. Really proud of y’all for growing the channel instead of what many would have done and just phone it in and farm views.
@DJIVision
@DJIVision 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Dizzy :)
@RadikAlice
@RadikAlice 5 күн бұрын
@@DizzyDenver Said it elsewhere before, but that shift is the best decision they ever made
@kilik519
@kilik519 2 ай бұрын
Shoutout to kraze who literally risked his life for preservation
@diebesgrab
@diebesgrab 2 ай бұрын
The problem with digital-only distribution is the fact that it cultivates a culture of disposability for software, which makes it easier for things to fall between the cracks. When you add in obscure and obsolete hardware like pre-smartphone cell phones, it gets even worse. While I’ve known about the problem of cell phone games getting lost (Before Crisis is and always has been the FFVII tie in I’m most interested in), I didn’t really know anything about the cell phone software preservation community before this video, but you guys are awesome. Thanks to DYKG for putting a spotlight on them, too.
@henrygreen2096
@henrygreen2096 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention the situation mentioned in the video where Atlus telling preservationist to stop. I already know Nintendo is probably enemy #1 in gaming preservation space. I assume that's what he didn't want to mention, but I suppose I shouldn't assume.
@robocami
@robocami 2 ай бұрын
I joined the Keitai preservation society a little over a year ago. I've been editing the wiki for a long time, and I am so honored that you mentioned Pokemon Hiroba and other topics I have written about! Much thanks from Robo
@IIOver9000
@IIOver9000 2 ай бұрын
Huge respect to the people finding preserving/translating these hidden gems, crazy to see what Japan was playing back in the day, interesting af.
@potatobob8234
@potatobob8234 2 ай бұрын
One thing I'd like to add on Atlas suing fans over SMT: Imagine, it was only done because of a certain private server using the old Imagine website and removing Altus's Trademark info. There currently is a fan server up and running now known as New Moon which Atlus USA is aware of and has left alone.
@ChefKyroo
@ChefKyroo 2 ай бұрын
not only that, but the private server put their own copyright info on their use of the old website, implying that they were the ones who owned it (and imagine as a whole). Glad someone left a comment clearing this up since the video misrepresented it imo
@EnigmaticGentleman
@EnigmaticGentleman 2 ай бұрын
@@ChefKyroo I mean companies taking down fan projects is almost always misrepresented esp by youtubers, like I have no love for companies that do it but unless its a really bad company on this (like far worse than your Nintendos and Gamefreaks) the fan project is back up a few weeks later, sometimes even still under active development.
@DJIVision
@DJIVision 2 ай бұрын
@@EnigmaticGentlemanHey guys, that's my bad, I wrote this video. The keitai preservationists I worked with to make this video brought up being worried about Atlus games because of the suing thing, and linked me to an article about it. The article didn't mention the removing/adding-trademark thing, and the preservationists weren't aware of it either, so I wrote those sentences into the script that y'all're drawing issue with. Sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Btw, for what it's worth, the next video on this channel is about how fan projects don't get taken down as often as people seem to think (and the reasons they often do get taken down).
@svenbtb
@svenbtb 2 ай бұрын
@@DJIVision Definitely excited for that! From what I've noticed it seems to largely be "It gets too much press" so it has to get shut down so a company can protect it's copyright, but I know it's also kinda different between fan games made in japan vs outside. Super interesting topic!
@RichardMV
@RichardMV 23 күн бұрын
I came here to mention this, as well. I was playing Re:Imagine (a US-based Imagine server) a few years back, but the game is a bit of a grindy slog, as many MMOs tend to be, and I never really got into it much. Because they were respectful of Atlus's IP, they were never shut down. When the issue came up with the other server, Re:Imagine shut down as a precaution, which I found really heartbreaking. It's good to hear that New Moon is trying to keep the game alive still; I might have to check it out at some point.
@CoreyOgburn
@CoreyOgburn 2 ай бұрын
It blows my mind that early 2000s phones were capable of these smooth framerates and gameplay.
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 ай бұрын
Maybe N-gage should've invested more in the Japanese scene We wouldn't have such a weird jump in mobile gaming quality, cause looking at these game and then the start of smartphone mobile game boom, it felt natural, like PS1 jumping to PS2 and so on rather jumping from SNES to PS2 lol
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 2 ай бұрын
I know you mean the frame rate for the gameplay, relatively speaking so I'm not talking about you here, but man it always bothers me when people are surprised by older devices being able to render things quickly. I was on twitch yesterday watching someone play smash melee and some kid was like "wow I didn't know GameCube was capable of 60fps" Like dude literally every device that can display on a 60hz screen is capable of 60fps games. It's all a matter of designing within the means of the device.
@raypuiaascii4653
@raypuiaascii4653 2 ай бұрын
​@@snailthelostcow63If Nokia was smart, they would have given a 240p screen to the N-Gage and seeked for developers, the thing would have actually destroyed the GBA.
@RealRomplayer
@RealRomplayer 2 ай бұрын
​@@raypuiaascii4653 Nokia, the company that went bankrupt because they completely missed the jump to smartphone era for years.
@Carcosahead
@Carcosahead 2 ай бұрын
Japanese phones where ahead of his time, heck they where better than the first iPhone! That’s why Japan was late transitioning into smartphones
@krzbrew
@krzbrew 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on board!
@RockmanCosmo
@RockmanCosmo 2 ай бұрын
A living legend among us!
@NeoRocket64
@NeoRocket64 2 ай бұрын
greatest respect
@Detective_L
@Detective_L 2 ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@superbros64deluxe
@superbros64deluxe 2 ай бұрын
Have any of your team tried getting in contact with G-MODE to show just how many games you've perserved? You never know if they've been trying to negotiate with IP holders only for them to say "yeah sorry we don't have that anymore", you could probably help them out
@Jumpsuperfun
@Jumpsuperfun 2 ай бұрын
This passion for games is palpable, thank you for sharing the community efforts and thank you community for everything🎉
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 2 ай бұрын
11:24 we need more people like this epic Chad.
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 2 ай бұрын
18:10 we need more people like this epic Chad.
@raypuiaascii4653
@raypuiaascii4653 2 ай бұрын
I've been on the whole Keitai preservation a while after it's conception as an active contributor of the wiki. I'm honored to be part of this effort documenting as much was the Web Archive has in it's database and Google not being shit. Greetings from the wiki by RaypuiaASCII :D
@henrygreen2096
@henrygreen2096 2 ай бұрын
I am genuinely inspired by game preservationists. The story at 11:00 where the gentlemen wrote code to brute force a phone code is so simple yet cool. I wish I could do stuff like that. But I just didn't grow up in the preservationist space. Not even the strongest coder really. Any preservationist reading this you are a inspiration. And thank you.
@Unabandonware
@Unabandonware 2 ай бұрын
It's ok I studied literature in college but I ended up here anyway 😂
@Compucles
@Compucles 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they totally debunk the idea that game piracy is necessary for game preservation when everything they do is legal and paid for when necessary.
@TheomanZero
@TheomanZero 2 ай бұрын
I honestly thought this was hopeless and that I just had to accept all of these games getting lost forever, but I guess I underestimated the community. Thank you to everyone!
@ChromeColossus
@ChromeColossus 2 ай бұрын
Wow, Kraze is literally a hero of game preservation.
@barry-allenthe-flash8396
@barry-allenthe-flash8396 2 ай бұрын
It's amazing how I could not give a sh** about "phone games" 99% of the time, but _if UNCLE DEREK SAYS THEY'RE IMPORTANT_ than damn it, *I care!* 😄 Fascinating stuff to learn about, and amazing effort you guys! Very cool to hear about this stuff.
@STs_Durandal
@STs_Durandal 2 ай бұрын
It fills me with joy to know that many JP video game titles no mater how small are surviving the burning of the digital alexander library, they all deserve to be archived the good and the bad.
@moonfallprince7735
@moonfallprince7735 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@RevrenD23
@RevrenD23 2 ай бұрын
First, let me say a huge huge huge thank you to not only DYKG for bringing awareness to this niche corner of the gaming world, but especially to the absolute legends who are doing all this work to preserve, catalog and rejuvenating these games... Sincerely, it's one of those things people will recount in books about saving an industry...
@skirsk
@skirsk 2 ай бұрын
11:58 "we're not going to delve into the long and very technical details of dumping" i don't know why but when he said that it made me laugh.
@chrisnelson5131
@chrisnelson5131 2 ай бұрын
Well, now I feel inspired to look for old keitai while traveling Japan next month. Thanks, DYKG!
@Unabandonware
@Unabandonware 2 ай бұрын
Just a heads up - keitai are pretty difficult to find nowadays, even in Akihabara, so you'll have to dig (I just did this a few months ago). That being said, plenty of these games were ported to early Android and iOS, and those phones are much easier to find.
@chrisnelson5131
@chrisnelson5131 Ай бұрын
​@@Unabandonware Yeah, I'm no stranger when it comes to tech hunting across Japan. It's been especially difficult since so many recycle shops have simply vanished altogether since I was first there 23 years ago.
@xehP
@xehP 2 ай бұрын
you know, years from now, future generations are going to appreciate the concept of preservation, it's true that most people do not appreciate what we have right now, what is the norm today will soon be lost and forgotten, it's funny we still haven't learned from history, with old scriptures being lost and preserved and we don't think about today the same way.
@Gigi-zr6hp
@Gigi-zr6hp 2 ай бұрын
Comparing old scriptures to video games lmao game preservation as a concept only came from US / EU gamers while it's an alien concept for gamers in CN/KR/JP as they have more crucial societal problems to resolve than care about video games.
@xehP
@xehP 2 ай бұрын
@@Gigi-zr6hp must suck lacking any basic form of foresight. seems what I am talking about is beyond your level of thought. as for societal problems every country has that, tf are you waffling on about, such a vague statement that can be applied to any country. lmao
@AllTimeScary
@AllTimeScary 2 ай бұрын
Incredible stuff!! Keep up all the amazing work
@YuviApp
@YuviApp 2 ай бұрын
So happy to be apart of this journey! Thank you, DYKG, for helping us preserve these games!
@masterofdoom5000
@masterofdoom5000 2 ай бұрын
Now THIS is some good ass DYKG content, fight the good fight preservation team!
2 ай бұрын
You are doing an amazing work with all these recovering projects. My respect.
@GavinAstraWolf
@GavinAstraWolf 2 ай бұрын
Its honestly still crazy to me the variety of different games released on old Japanese Phones. I knew about a few of these but I didn't know the hole was so deep. Here's hoping more get preserved!
@XerShadowTail
@XerShadowTail 2 ай бұрын
2024 has been such a good year for Keitai Preservation, I am hoping 2025 is even more so!!
@brycevo
@brycevo 2 ай бұрын
Thank goodness we've managed to preserve these games. Sad that we've lost so many more though
@memoryhunter2084
@memoryhunter2084 2 ай бұрын
Massive thanks DYKG! Fantastic video, was lovely working throughout the years!
@svenbtb
@svenbtb 2 ай бұрын
This is awesome, I've been reading a lot of articles about this recently so it's great to see this information getting shared on a big channel like DYKG. I don't think I have the skills to help sadly but even raising awareness helps SO much, this video is the perfect piece to help people understand what's at stake. Huge, HUGE props to everyone doing the preservation work!
@Unabandonware
@Unabandonware 2 ай бұрын
If you can write, that's already enough to contribute to Keitai Wiki :D
@Poyostar
@Poyostar 2 ай бұрын
I really admire the efforts of everyone trying to preserve these old Japanese mobile phone games! There's tons of things still waiting to be found, and I can't wait to see what happens next! By the way, I was kind of hoping you guys would bring up the mobile port of Klonoa: Door To Phantomile here, but since you didn't, I suppose I'll fill in the gap by explaining it myself. Basically, it was a mobile port of the first Klonoa game that was released right around the launch of the Wii remake in 2008. It's since been lost to time, but earlier this year a demo was found, so I have hope that the full game will no longer be lost at some point in the future! Actually, even outside of games there is a staggering amount of unique Klonoa content made for Japanese phones of the time that haven't been found yet; Namco's old Merochara service for example included several Klonoa wallpapers, MIDI arrangements and even an adorable interactive buddy in the titular Dream Traveler's likeness! Intriguing stuff all around, isn't it?
@Unabandonware
@Unabandonware 2 ай бұрын
The full demo came pre-installed on every copy of a specific phone model so it wasn't too hard to find. The full version will be more of a challenge unfortunately 😅
@N7Link
@N7Link 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting video congrats and thanks to the people preserving this part of video game history definitely want to check out the Mega man Legends phone game for sure 👍 🎉!
@Louis83TV
@Louis83TV Ай бұрын
I am speechless for the effort you're all putting into this. Bravo, everyone.
@DonAsirobi
@DonAsirobi 2 ай бұрын
I've seen so many new games get preserved so quickly, it's crazy how well the whole project is going! Very impressive. I might have to check some of those out at some point.
@memoryhunter2084
@memoryhunter2084 2 ай бұрын
You are welcome to join in the Keitai Wiki!
@DonAsirobi
@DonAsirobi 2 ай бұрын
@@memoryhunter2084 thx!
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 ай бұрын
New? I thought the goal was to preserve old games.
@memoryhunter2084
@memoryhunter2084 2 ай бұрын
@@GabePuratekuta they probably meant the newly preserved old games
@georgefrankly
@georgefrankly 2 ай бұрын
"we're not going to get into the long and technical details of dumping" that's what I try to tell my doctor every single visit since I turned 35 my dude
@MegaSceptile99
@MegaSceptile99 2 ай бұрын
I like seeing pretty obscure facets of video games, and these Keitai games seem right up my alley. I'm glad there are people out there preserving them so people could experience these and that they're making great progress.
@sterlingadams1679
@sterlingadams1679 2 ай бұрын
Should note that RE: The Missions came in two flavours - one for lower end phones with a FPS view and static backgrounds, while the other is featured in the video here.
@GlidyBun
@GlidyBun 2 ай бұрын
Cracking old games in the shelter while bombs fall is honestly really cool
@sammysamlovescats
@sammysamlovescats 2 ай бұрын
Fan translations are being worked on for several of the Atlus games! And I'm working on some myself ;)
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 ай бұрын
Could you switch to Namco? There are a few Tales games that still need translating...
@Unabandonware
@Unabandonware 2 ай бұрын
Which ones?
@JPeoplzOIII
@JPeoplzOIII 2 ай бұрын
"Pokemons, Final Fantsy's, Castle Vanias, Resident's Evil, Crash's Bandicoot, Sonic's The Hedgehog, Breaths of Fire, Mega Men??" whats is happenings lol?
@Zuckfuk
@Zuckfuk 2 ай бұрын
This bugged the shit out of me considering the list displayed shortly after had it all spelled out correctly.
@blakegriplingph
@blakegriplingph 2 ай бұрын
*Pokemen
@StrawberryPidgey
@StrawberryPidgey 2 ай бұрын
uncle derrick is just having a little bit of cheeky fun
@DontKnowDontCare6.9
@DontKnowDontCare6.9 2 ай бұрын
It's called wrong use of possessive and plural forms. You know, the things taught in first grade.
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 2 ай бұрын
Kinda like the proper plural of Attorney General is actually Attorneys General. Hence Sonics the hedgehog
@zombizzle_
@zombizzle_ 2 ай бұрын
Been following the preservation of these phone games for awhile now and very glad to see DYKG was involved and making this video. This channel doesn't just document history for video game fans, they actively unearth it!
@PIKMINROCK1
@PIKMINROCK1 2 ай бұрын
There was a panel at the recent CEDEC where a number of developers from different companies discussed their company's preservation practices. It's probably a good idea to look at that for what they will be doing in the future and seeing what may be in their archives.
@Flashchocobo
@Flashchocobo 2 ай бұрын
Hey it's Derrick, it's him Derrick and welcome to Didyouknowgaming! This is such a SSFF topic for him to be apart of.
@no_uhs5249
@no_uhs5249 2 ай бұрын
God bless anyone trying to find before crisis I’ve been wanting to play that game since 2019 since I found out about it so thank you sm
@Hiruban
@Hiruban 2 ай бұрын
Those people are game archaelogists and treasure hunters, basically modern Indiana Jones, that's cool af
@VmigoStation
@VmigoStation 2 ай бұрын
I'm so mad because Corpse Party NewChapter is a lost and is such an important piece of development history in the Corpse Party franchise There's an article you can read about it on the Lost Media Wiki There's also multiple lost Higurashi games including a lost question and answer arc with new characters. There's also lost ports of Higurashi and Mini games It's so sad 😢
@visoreyes6393
@visoreyes6393 2 ай бұрын
These phones look so solid, and they have personality. I want one!
@moonfallprince7735
@moonfallprince7735 2 ай бұрын
This makes me so happy- to see all of these experiences preserved- I was especially moved by Kraze leaving his bomb shelter solely for the sake of preservation work! It's truly something special that we are all united by our love of this medium
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist 2 ай бұрын
uncle derrick
@xxlee1019
@xxlee1019 2 ай бұрын
I thought it was him, them I heard, "Residents Evil" and I knew
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 2 ай бұрын
Hi, he's Derrick, it's him Derrick
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting 2 ай бұрын
👋👋👋
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 2 ай бұрын
​@@StopSkeletonsFromFighting You're in my top two blue skeleton themed KZbin gaming channels!
@WatermelonJiki
@WatermelonJiki 2 ай бұрын
Uncle Urukanji 🎌
@daniellelondon439
@daniellelondon439 2 ай бұрын
Oh man they had everything on here! Just the absolute volume of franchises and games that were released. We are very lucky to have such dedicated people working to recover and translate them.
@danielinverso5869
@danielinverso5869 2 ай бұрын
Btw, keitai (携帯) is short for keitaidenwa (携帯電話) which means cellphone in Japanese.
@annarenfold438
@annarenfold438 2 ай бұрын
The one thing I heard that made me feel bad for preservationists is how stingy and elitist private collectors from Asian countries can be. I'm not gonna pretend to be someone who cares passionately about lost media and long forgotten old games, but the topic interests me because I was always interested and fascinated by the many little games that released in platforms I never had in my home and was never able to experience. To learn that there are people out there with the files of sought after games that would be incredible to dig through yet they have zero interest of sharing with the public makes me feel some type of way about the world of old media preservation.
@Gigi-zr6hp
@Gigi-zr6hp 2 ай бұрын
Because game preservation is a non Asian concept. It's only a sentiment that came from US / EU gamers while JP/KR/CN mostly just don't care.
@Centralie
@Centralie 2 ай бұрын
I speak Japanese. (And understand English a little) If you want any help, please give a comment back :)
@memoryhunter2084
@memoryhunter2084 2 ай бұрын
You are welcome to join in the Keitai Wiki!
@Valstrax420
@Valstrax420 2 ай бұрын
20:58 They literally said this.
@Quick_Nerd
@Quick_Nerd Ай бұрын
this was a very cool video thank you guys for making it
@axelprino
@axelprino 2 ай бұрын
As someone who was pretty into J2ME games back during the mid to late 2000's I remember reading about all of the Japanese exclusive mobile games that weren't getting ported much less released internationally, loads of incredibly interesting looking titles that were only being released for a handful of devices running obscure OS's and never even dumped online because Japanese gamers were apparently staunchly against anything piracy-related. I can clearly remember forum discussions where people lamented that the third Rockman Dash game was likely never going to be playable outside Japan (there were even memes about that one because of how bonkers the news articles sounded) or that only one out of the about half a dozen Resident Evil mission-based games was available to us, and the few times when Capcom actually committed to a wider release we got fascinating games like Devil May Cry 3D so the entries left behind just stung ever worse. I'm still curious to this day about all those Sonic games since only Shadow Shoot made its way to the rest of the world, all the other mobile J2ME Sonic games were developed in the west. Also, Atlus and Sega are supposed to be part of the same larger company these days, how come their policies for re-releasing these specific games are so different?
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 2 ай бұрын
You guys may do Raid Shadow Leggings adverts but you are also damn champions of game preservation and I applaud you for it
@BladeCrossEXE
@BladeCrossEXE 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see the Rockman Mobile Games getting a shoutout!
@yukiyagami9744
@yukiyagami9744 2 ай бұрын
Ok that Dirge of Cerberus game looks impresive for a mobile game of that time. Also i am a big persona fan and i didn't knew any of those P3 game existed, amazing
@UwURainUwU
@UwURainUwU 2 ай бұрын
Its honestly crazy how long and perfect you've been doing this.
@Pikmin442
@Pikmin442 2 ай бұрын
19:40 There was a NiGHTS mobile puzzle game?! Now I want to play it.
@GELTONZ
@GELTONZ 2 ай бұрын
This has been driving me nuts for DECADES. I'm a Valis fan and the last two REAL Valis games (i.e. not X) were remakes of 1 & 2 for phones with DLC costumes. Based on footage, they may be some of the best games in the franchise but there is just no way to get them! Same thing with a mobile exclusive new Athena game! BUT! There is one thing you didn't quite mention that is a glimmer of hope: Those ATLUS re-releases? It wasn't just Atlus doing them? G-Mode, a mobile company that bought the rights to Data East's stuff, has been re-releasing old keitai games onto the Japanese Switch e-Shop for a while now and handled those Atlus re-releases. They actually asked on Twitter what keitai games we wanted re-released and they'd see what they could do about getting them. I guess G-Mode built their own mobile phone emulator. Needless to say I asked for Valis. They are, of course, releasing all their old stuff and City Connection, the owners of Jaleco's old properties, has partnered with them to get their old stuff released. So Momoko 1200% (sequel to Momoko 120%) and City Connection Rocket are both available on Switch. Looks like Falcom is working with them too as the keitai version of Sorcerian got a Switch release. The thing that makes THIS a ray of hope is that it shows at least some companies still have their old keitai games stored SOMEWHERE and if they realize there's a market for them, they could get released. BUT anyone who knows game company tomfoolery knows you can't always count on them to preserve their own games.
@vwtifuljoe954
@vwtifuljoe954 2 ай бұрын
If there is anyone i trust to tell me about crazy ass games on weird games and consoles, it's Stop Skeletons From Fighting
@MG64OdysseyProductions
@MG64OdysseyProductions 2 ай бұрын
0:44 oh thank goodness you listed Kingdom Hearts
@nothingcankilldagrimace
@nothingcankilldagrimace 2 ай бұрын
Kingdoms Heart
@asclw7643
@asclw7643 2 ай бұрын
It's hard for me to believe that Japan didn't archive info like even just a gaming magazine article reflecting on all the FF keitai games or something. Or advertising them in some serialized media as they came out. Some reliable or consistent source... It is wild to me to believe that their culture is so different, particularly when their culture is known for hygiene. I'd think data organization and record keeping would naturally fall under that mindset.
@Stromatolites151
@Stromatolites151 2 ай бұрын
Top work to all those involved in preserving the media 👏
@MasterKofficial
@MasterKofficial 2 ай бұрын
thank you to all the people who are preserving and archiving videogame history. you are awesome! is their a way to help or join a team? i own over 7000 games, an xbox dev kit with a splinter cell beta, have ~ 100+ cellphones and preserved over 300 (cellphone)games so far, but they are not released yet. i'm not sure which would be the best place to release them without getting trouble^^
@B.J.Camire
@B.J.Camire 2 ай бұрын
This is so incredible. So glad to see everyone working to preserve our collective history!
@pokemonduck
@pokemonduck 2 ай бұрын
Amazing work
@JUNK_ZONE
@JUNK_ZONE 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad there are people out there picking up the slack of these companies and preserving as much of this stuff as possible. That being said, the fans are probably more capable/willing to make it happen than any company would be. They'd be too busy losing their mind in the corner because their company didn't make 10x what they did last year after they literally changed nothing about their company (that made millions last year). Where the hell are the art investors of the world that aren't just tasteless idiots with money? We need people to invest in this stuff and understand the value of it.
@Vulioll
@Vulioll 2 ай бұрын
This episode was for me omg I really really love old Java/Symbian/Keitai phones and games!
@rexdawn7
@rexdawn7 2 ай бұрын
It's uncle Derick, the happy video game nerd!
@StummyyLord
@StummyyLord 2 ай бұрын
Ahhh, stop skeletons from fighting is narrating, my favorite youtuber. Made me very excited
@madamminalost
@madamminalost 2 ай бұрын
"Phoenix Wright had a poker game" ... this explains so much stuff in Apollo Justice.
@SplitScreamOFFICIAL
@SplitScreamOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I hope more people contribute Something smart would be to put up posters asking people for their old phones and asking for knowledge from developers or people who know them with an email address or phone number to leave a voicemail
@internetguy7319
@internetguy7319 2 ай бұрын
"hey if you have these discontinued phones send them to me where we'll do something dubiously legal (in japan, their laws for this stuff sucks)"
@EvanYoungMusic
@EvanYoungMusic 2 ай бұрын
It’s me, uncle Derrick! And welcome, to stop skeletons from fighting.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 2 ай бұрын
11:22 seriously this just shows the huge cultural difference between asia and europe .this guy risks is life for game preservation while one out of 120 million Japanese people could have done it with way less risk but they don't care about "old stuff"
@trainbrain0622
@trainbrain0622 2 ай бұрын
This needs to be public knowledge before we lose everything known to mobile gaming!
@faceurhell
@faceurhell 2 ай бұрын
Lowkey I really hope we get a giga leak for Capcom, SEGA, Square Enix, Konami, ETC so we get full versions of missing games like this and some beta elements. While obviously no one wants employee personal information out there, game information like that eventually should all be 100% public domain.
@rafacastillo9611
@rafacastillo9611 2 ай бұрын
Will the preservation of games FINALLY stop the skeletons from fighting????
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 2 ай бұрын
0:55 Bad games also deserve to be preserved.
@DJIVision
@DJIVision 2 ай бұрын
They're preserving all games, the video mentions 2000 freeware games saved by one guy (MemoryHunter), but the video says it's going to mostly focus on the "good stuff" (because no one would wanna watch this video if it was 22mins of games they didn't care about).
@OliGaming-d1u
@OliGaming-d1u 2 ай бұрын
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years had a Wii port that is, as far as I can tell, exactly the same as the mobile version, just at a higher resolution and widescreen.
@gerardometacos6566
@gerardometacos6566 2 ай бұрын
There are a lot of digimon games for phones and arcades that are lost, and are always overshadowed by other franchises
@jeannepucelle
@jeannepucelle 2 ай бұрын
Inuyasha is one of my favorite animes. When I had a old flip phone back in the early or mid 2000's, there is a lost Inuyasha mobile game I bought for $2 that I played religiously for my flip phone (it was NOT Demon tournament). While I forgot what kind of old flip phone it was, the Inuyasha game was a hack and slash side scroller being close to 30 minutes long where you could play as Kagome and Inuyasha. You fought demons, crossed over rivers by hitting levers and I believe you were looking for and saving Sango, Miroku and Shippo.
@MarcelE80
@MarcelE80 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work on game preservation
@dudearnav
@dudearnav Ай бұрын
I remember Biohazard: The Missions and The Stories, as I covered them in a video. I remember finding the JAR files was hard as hell as I found my way onto old capcom sites which had been abandoned since the mid 2000s.
@felicianowong2122
@felicianowong2122 2 ай бұрын
I was waiting more than I should have for the "Hey It's me Uncle Derek"
@MattwosRandomNonContent
@MattwosRandomNonContent 2 ай бұрын
9:13 Cared about its back catalogue? They ported their keitai games before most of their console and handheld games pft. Where's the PC ports of the first two Persona games, the Devil Children series, the Devil Summoner series (which they pretend doesn't even exist as of Soul Hackers 2) the two Megami Tensei games, the SNES remake and the first two SMT games?
@Gojiro7
@Gojiro7 2 ай бұрын
So is this what Derek's been up too these past half year? if so....that's a pretty big Punching weight IRL
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting 2 ай бұрын
@@Gojiro7 some private stuff, some health stuff and some family stuff. I might explain it all when I finally start getting videos out on the regular. I’m on like 5 projects I just need to finish them! Though one is a punching weight that will be a damn movie at this point.
@SpikeStarkey
@SpikeStarkey 2 ай бұрын
The Resident Evil 4 and Katamari games look like Resident Evil 4 Mobile and Katamari Amoré/I Love Katamari Both were ported to iOs and Android, both have been modified to work on modern Android.
@CrossfacePanda
@CrossfacePanda 2 ай бұрын
While games like these from internationally famous franchises are important (and understandably would be the focus on a video like this meant for an international audience), I feel like it’s just as important to preserve all the games that aren’t part of a Sonic, Pokemon, Metal Gear, etc franchise, or even made by recognizable developers. All the other games are part of history too, and has been a part of somebody’s life, be it the people who played them or the people who made them. That’s worth preserving, even if there’s a lack of emotional attachment to them for most of us outside Japan, and even if it’s just some random shovelware title like a generic mahjong game. I feel the same way about old Java games from other countries, old flash and website exclusive games, and even the absolute mountain of games released daily on smartphones for the last 15 years. I get that it’s not realistically feasible to preserve them all, but I do think it’s as important as any other game at risk of being lost forever.
@DJIVision
@DJIVision 2 ай бұрын
Hey Panda, I wrote this video. Maybe the video could've emphasized it better, but the keitai guys are trying to preserve ALL games, even if the video mostly focuses on the big IP games. There's mention of MemoryHunter saving 2000 freeware games at one point for example.
@CrossfacePanda
@CrossfacePanda 2 ай бұрын
@@DJIVision I wrote that before getting to that part of the video, but it did make me happy to hear (and even more impressed learning he’s doing all that in the middle of a war!). I also thought the script was well written, and totally understand why the focus is on titles and franchises people outside Japan would already know (that’s what most people would be interested in, after all), so I’m sorry of it came off ad critique of the video and your work in particular. It was more a general comment on game preservation as a whole. And tbh, just the fact that there’s people out there who care to preserve any pre smartphone mobile game, games that used to be treated as disposable (if even worth playing at all), is reassuring.
@DJIVision
@DJIVision 2 ай бұрын
@@CrossfacePanda No worry, cheers Panda :)
@JayDecayAE
@JayDecayAE 2 ай бұрын
It’s nice to hear Derek. His KZbin presence has been lacking lately.
@amphicyon4359
@amphicyon4359 2 ай бұрын
Impressed at the effort these guys make the preserve these games, even if they would act as little less than trivia for most people
@dstaple3
@dstaple3 2 ай бұрын
Kraze is an absolute maniac for that one. But bless him
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 2 ай бұрын
An early mobile game having unseen additional poses of the Emerald Pokemon sprites is a wild thing to learn about. With some tinkering one can animate them in the same style as the BW sprites. Hopefully more content from that game is found.
@smactork
@smactork 2 ай бұрын
Hey it's Derek it's him Derek
@macroxela
@macroxela 2 ай бұрын
6:55 maybe it was a different version but I distinctly remember playing this game in some cellphones back in Mexico when I was a kid. A bunch of Japanese and Korean factories were setup along the border, bringing in lots of Japanese & Koreans. Many of them imported electronics from Asia that were not available anywhere else. That's how I actually got to see lots of stuff before being released in the West.
@SkydrawnIV
@SkydrawnIV 2 ай бұрын
WAS THAT A MENTION OF *JET SET RADIO?!*
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