A low cut option on the plug-in itself would be a nice addition.
@paulmint177510 ай бұрын
Agreed. That's How Lexicon won the market back in the day.
@officialWWM10 ай бұрын
Like almost every other reverb on the market!
@thehappybaptist546810 ай бұрын
In studio one + or whatever it’s called, there’s another reverb plugin that has a low cut. I don’t remember what it’s called tho lol
@gregshmkr10 ай бұрын
@@thehappybaptist5468 Mixverb. Though, it's not nearly as versatile as the Room Reverb.
@thehappybaptist546810 ай бұрын
@@gregshmkr bless
@billgallagher308210 ай бұрын
I noticed the raw reverb had some dynamics issues too as well as the boominess. I always add EQ and compression to my reverb track and it cleans up very nicely. Thanks for validating me Joe!
@ariahrendt61669 ай бұрын
Did you ever noticed the Population parameter?
@DavidMaurand7 ай бұрын
In the music I mix, that big bottom end is critical to a good mix: think of an organ or ensemble (double bass, tuba) in a cathedral - in that environment, not only does the sound bloom, but the bass end of the spectrum cascades longer. Think of a space with the organ in the triforium (high above), the brass ensemble near the back wall of the chancel, and an antiphonal choir left, right, and forward of those instruments (but still inboard of the organ; that area raised a few steps above the pavement). To add another ring to this circus, the string ensemble is often on the pavement (floor level) forward of the choir. These would be normal deployment in a 'typical' long aisle space of this kind. I would like to see a series on mixing for classical instruments and in creating the ideal (and realistic) audition spaces - concert hall, recital hall, and my use case, cathedral or large church. Many of use are using a mishmash of libraries, and insights there would be helpful too - especially as it would be preferable to use one reverb environment for the entire kit, not the separate ones that come with each library.
@DeltaWhiskeyBravo1357910 ай бұрын
Agreed. There's only a few "always" things I do when mixing. Sending the reverb and delay to their own channel is one. There's more control over the effect, and you're now open to send other channels into that reverb. I will EQ the reverb much like this as well. I also pseudo automate my reverb with a sidechain compressor.
@chestnut.mountainstudio655610 ай бұрын
This is a great way to mix, i do it all the time. but i enjoy watching joe teach! i still learn a lot. Thanks JOE
@gregvankerkhof25410 ай бұрын
Great advice! I need to go check all my templates and make sure I'm doing this consistently. Another thing to mention regarding reverbs on sends vs tracks is that it's far less CPU intensive to have 3 or 4 reverb sends than a reverb plugin on every single channel.
@presonus10 ай бұрын
That's a pro tip! Do you have a favorite reverb setting you use most often?
@rohanwalker240410 ай бұрын
Joe, I am extremely grateful to you. I know this is your job, but you deserve gratitude anyway. thank you.
@nwcic8 ай бұрын
Great suggestion. I did this for a live setup, and 𝙞𝙢𝙢𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙡𝙮 cleaned up the guitars and vocals. This gives them more definition, less muddiness, and a much more pleasant listening experience for an audience. Plus, it has the added benefit of being easier to hear the instruments for a vocalist singing. Additionally, it reduces the added muddiness of room reflections that can kill the clarity of a mix where there are hard floors, walls and odd bounce backs. Thanks.
@flossyEnt412Ай бұрын
after watching this video the beat you was mixing a song instantly came to my head
@ASHLEYCOELHO10 ай бұрын
in addition, put a imager plugin on reverb channel and space it apart carving space for the main guitar channel giving it a more fuller and wider sound
@charlesdufrene6244Ай бұрын
As always, great tips and coaching Joe!
@presonusАй бұрын
Hope this helps!
@skmbeats19939 ай бұрын
Old but gold! I'm using this trick for a while it's in some moments best solution! Also thank you for your time and effort.
@MichaelsPaintingChannel9 ай бұрын
That's very good, maybe that's why my solo guitars sound strange in my car! As I go for solo guitar I will try to let enough low end to have it sound rich but without that distortion.
@Tyrell_Corp201910 ай бұрын
Even though I know this… Sometimes in the heat of creating and mixing, I forget. Thanks for this important reminder Joe. Saved to my list. ✌️
@presonus10 ай бұрын
It's easy to forget things in the moment! Hope this helps as a reminder!
@cherti10 ай бұрын
It's always really great to put major effects on busses like this so you can experiment with other effects on the bus to create a really unique sound to your reverb/delay. One of my personal favourite things to do is remove prominent frequencies using a VST like Soothe and cutting out the lows and mids on a reverb to just get reverb on the breath. You should try it out.
@StudioLive82410 ай бұрын
Joe... Sweet - Been doing this both live and in studio for years... By removing that low end of the reverb we allow the shimmer to appear without the "rumble" that appears This is really beneficial in live work - where you are often fighting room reflections. Thanks for showing others this "trick" - :)
@jakesmith45069 ай бұрын
awesome info. thank you so much. this method of eq in the verb channel makes a big difference in my mixes.
@QualityJamTracks10 ай бұрын
Mind Blown, period! I had zero idea that this was even a thing. Thanks Joe. God Bless
@earledaniels453910 ай бұрын
I am a big Studio One fan but use a lot of 3rd party plugins because the stock ones lack the basic functions that other plugins have. Some suggestions for stock plugin improvements are; low and high cut EQ filters on all Reverb and Delay plugins, mid/side option on the ProEQ plugin.
@presonus10 ай бұрын
We always appreciate hearing feedback! We'd love for you to submit feature requests on answers.presonus.com
@KadokiPo10 ай бұрын
Parallel processing with spliter on a track realy helps)))
@peterelfman10 ай бұрын
Tag teaming with Joe, I've recently learned the trick of putting the EQ between the primary signal and the reverb, so those low frequencies never even get there. The difference between the two sounds is subtle but notable.
@bartlaan199610 ай бұрын
Nice tip, only thing I'd add is that if the song section doesn't have many instruments competing (for example if there's no bass or drums yet), it can be nice to have the more full reverb sound
@louiewgroenewald6 ай бұрын
Great sounding reverb.
@dannyharpermusic10 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe
@presonus10 ай бұрын
Hope this helps!
@ledheavy2610 ай бұрын
You also could've used the channel spillter tool in frequency mode to send only the frequency content you want to a reverb. I always use reverbs on sends though. I think the splitter tool is highly underrated and I WISH Presonus would make the controls in the splitter tool midi mappable!
@binarysun_10 ай бұрын
Same here. Love the splitter. Not only for only sending the wanted freq to a send but also for mid/side stuff. But I always wonder if this could have more features though I am unsure which specifically
@ledheavy2610 ай бұрын
@@binarysun_ Being able to map the controls to midi for splitter channel mutes, volumes, frequency balance and so on would be HUGE. Being able to bypass a split chain (with a mappable control) would be great. Being able to route audio through sidechaining inside the same channel would also be awesome. While we're at it, make the channel macro controls (buttons for instance) be able to be mapped to more than one parameter and then give us polarity control for each parameter if a control is mapped (one button push turns on one parameter and turns off the other for instance). I've been trying to create a comprehensive guitar rig setup (NAM with other plugins) and a lot of the issues I'm running into could be fixed with these changes.
@COMATRON.10 ай бұрын
nice one, joe. got a damn good idea for you guys: in the "files" tab - which should be used to feed samples and prelisten (like a sample browser) - a small waveform to click into would be a BOMB - on top of that a "autoplay" button would be the second killer feature :P i thank you and maybe lots of other guys will thank you and me if that happens. i got 25 years cubase on the back and DAMN - is S1 a good DAW. keep it up - keep it good - rock on! (thumbs up on this comment if you want this too)
@sijel10 ай бұрын
Great lesson. You should mention the Abbey Road reverb trick used on Beatles and other albums. Basically, hi pass AND low pass the reverb return. Cuts mud and harshness together 😊
@presonus10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Love that technique. Do you use it often?
@sijel10 ай бұрын
@@presonus yes all the time, for the “build up” reasons you noted. What’s good for The Beatles is GREAT for me 😊
@richardsp279410 ай бұрын
You can also automate reverb more effectively when its separate. Instant better production and more interesting sounding songs
@lanceolsun575210 ай бұрын
Great tip, will try that.....
@downyc10 ай бұрын
Just what I was needing, Joe. Thanks.
@presonus10 ай бұрын
We hope it helps clean up your mixes!
@Michaelkenjarrell018 ай бұрын
This is a very good video. Thank you so much really good one of my favorites.❤
@connollyhome620010 ай бұрын
Great advice, Joe! This is something I learned from one of your great courses - either the recording or mixing course.
@carstenaltena10 ай бұрын
Sometimes I also cut some of the highs if the attacks are too accentuated. I believe that's an old Abbey Road trick.
@presonus10 ай бұрын
YES! That's correct! What do you typically find yourself using that method on?
@carstenaltena10 ай бұрын
@@presonus mostly vocals! Also piano, guitars.
@hawthornemanorproductions10 ай бұрын
Thanks again Joe!
@timlotter789110 ай бұрын
So EQ the reverb gotcha. I need to adjust my mix . Does that work on Mix Effects as well??
@rodolpheseror75016 ай бұрын
One noob question. When going this way, at what moment of your effect channel do you apply the reverb? For example I have a voice bus channel. In this bus I have some eq, deesser, limit, compress, echo, disto, reverb, delay, multiband eq How do I do with the send method to apply the reverb at the right moment in the channel?
@justbob900610 ай бұрын
@presonus Audio Electronics #Joe Gilder I am just curious here. Sometimes I've read in groups that they like to print the reverb, delays etc onto another track and leave vocals or guitar dry. 1st question... If you can do that How? 2nd question.... Why would you do that? Thanks for entertainimg my questions! Great content as always
@chrisg757910 ай бұрын
Pure GOLD!! I was literally just hours away from uploading a song for release when I saw this vid listed on the Studio One news feed. I'd long ago accepted that I'll never get a decent reverb on my virtual guitars without compromising the integrity of the raw sound, and reluctantly had learnt to live with muddy guitars. But now....WOAH YEAH BABY!! My guitars suddenly sound twice as loud without actually being any louder! Like some wierd compression trick or something. And now my song sounds like it's just been given a shot of adrenaline in both arms! Look out world, I'm about to release a MONSTER!!!
@andrewgilman883510 ай бұрын
Joe have you tested the new Studio Monitors from Presonus?
@bcole2310 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@toploadtele10 ай бұрын
5-Stars! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@HaloSerene10 ай бұрын
Just a quick question - I have started to do Reverb as described in this video (not just for the improvement in sound - though my ears are still learning this stuff - but also from an organisation POV). My query is if the same error and fix as per this video are applicable to Chorus and Flanger effects - if this is applicable perhaps there could be a video dealing with them as well?
@redlatu2110 ай бұрын
THANK YOU JOE!
@nickkositsyn459710 ай бұрын
Thank you, useful tips
@complexicus2 ай бұрын
Great ❤
@wumpoleflack10 ай бұрын
Hi Joe -- great video. One question though: I think I saw you put the EQ after the verb. Is it best there or what if we remove the low end before the EQ? Wouldn't that clean up the signal more efficiently? Or will the verb just add low-end artifacts even though the input signal was high-passed?
@Mikey__R10 ай бұрын
It makes no difference at all, unless you add some non-linear processing in there too, like compression or saturation. When you add two linear processes, it's like X + Y = Y + X. Mathematically, they're commutative, but that's probably more information than you wanted.
@marsrivers10 ай бұрын
How do you get a Plate reverb with stock plugins in presonus?
@bjmora961210 ай бұрын
Room Reverb has a plate (Joe demonstrates it)
@zipperhead10110 ай бұрын
Wow! Again.
@marsrivers10 ай бұрын
PLEASE: add a low pass filter to fat channel
@rubenn721210 ай бұрын
There is
@marsrivers10 ай бұрын
@@rubenn7212 where my friend?
@rubenn721210 ай бұрын
@@marsrivers I just looked and there is not realy a low pass filter but you can put the eq unit in the front of the chain and use the eq to cut some of the highs out.
@mixprofmix10 ай бұрын
A straight low pass filter would be nice on fat channel with different slopes
@marsrivers10 ай бұрын
@@mixprofmix fat channel is an amazing tool. If they add that low pass filter next to the high pass one would be completed