PRESSURE BARREL EVOLUTION | HOME BREWING WITH THE MALT MILLER

When some of the team here at The Malt Miller started home brewing they were gifted starter bundles with various equipment in. These included Pressure Barrels and whilst the concept of a barrel which you can carbonate and serve your beer from, which is affordable and accessible, sounds great, in reality these systems have some issues with reliability.
With the introduction of the more affordable pressure rated fermenters hitting the market we had a lightbulb moment and thought how we could bundle some of these products together to bring the concept of the pressure barrel into the modern era of home brewing.
In this video Rakey and Stiffo show you how this system works, with a Chubby PET Pressure Fermenter at the heart of the system.
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[@johnturner2890]

I still use pressure barrels for cask beers, corny kegs for typical keg style beers, and have never had issues until the last two, a blonde ale and a Yorkshire bitter where the caps cracked and split. I think it was the extreme heat we've just had that caused an increase in pressure and cracked the top. I am setting up a regulator and adaptor system to allow me to connect to my bar area's gas system and I will be installing a hand pump serve the beer with, the CO2 is mainly to replace the beer, stopping a vacuum. I do like the option you've demonstrated though

[@UndisclosedGamer1]

This video couldn't have come at a better time. I'm due to brew my first batch of beer soon, using the 30l chubby and a beer kit. Brilliant!👍🏻

[@brymills]

I take it you could use this for fermenting / serving an all grain brew from a g30

[@themaltmiller8438]

Absolutely

[@JohnDoe-es5xh]

Only a 16G capsule for a 30 liter fermenter? Will it provide pressure till it's empty?

[@themaltmiller8438]

You may have to add another one or two but if you have left pressure in the chubby from the fermentation that will serve a lot of the beer

[@JohnDoe-es5xh]

@@themaltmiller8438 Yeah, that's right. Thx for the answer.

[@doctorsam1953]

I can see myself trying this for the lifeboat station Christmas party. I’ve already been asked to make a brew……

[@mandrews5748]

I wish this had been around when i started homebrewing. Its a great set-up. It might be the only equipment you'd ever need, but if the upgrade bug bites the equipment will always be useful. Great stuff.

[@timhicks2154]

You young ‘uns! I started home-brewing in 1977! Still doing it now. Got some lovely Coopers’ dark ale I’m drinking currently. I still use kits, (lack of space) vats & pressure barrels. S30 CO2 injectors. No leaks!

[@paulrichardson2504]

This is a amazing change to brewing. I stopped homebrew, for some of the time bottling & the messing with metal kegs. Hopefully i will re start to homebrew again. Have you done a cider this way?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Yes, absolutely perfect for cider

[@chrisb5839]

How do you check the gravity of the beer if its all sealed? Will there be enough pressure to use the tap to pour a sample off and use a hydrometer?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Yep! As long as you leave a few PSI in the tank you will be able to get a sample out.

[@seangannon193]

I guess you dont need a airlock on the bucket because you are transferring it straight away

[@themaltmiller8438]

Correct!

[@paulclark7706]

Is there any chance you can do a kit that goes with the apollo as well? Or just do the kit without the chuddy?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Drop us an email to [e-mail] and we can look at what we might be able to do for you

[@mickoconnell7822]

Once you start drinking this how long will it last before going off thanks

[@themaltmiller8438]

A good amount of time, it’s hard to say for sure but as long as it’s fully sealed it will last for months

[@mickoconnell7822]

Ah I was thinking once you got drinking it it would be like the pinter and needs to be consumed within the week, thanks

[@chrisb5839]

Sorry I have another question.. isn't it bad to leave beer on the trub for a period of time? If you are serving from this the beer may sit on the trub for a month or two? (Depending on how quick you drink it of course! 😄).

[@themaltmiller8438]

It depends, in general yes you may find that a prolonged contact time with the yeast could impact flavour but if it's kept cold and you're not leaving it for too long then this will be minimal. You can also transfer to a keg under pressure from this system easily if you wish to add on a grown with the system.

[@chrisb5839]

@@themaltmiller8438 how long would you say is too long?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Almost impossible to say, your taste bud will let you know but as long as its cold a good month or two

[@timhicks2154]

I never got on with the small CO2 cylinders. Will it take an S30 / Sodastream CO2 cylinder?

[@plug4uk696]

Question : What is the cost of that kit setup and where can it be purchased from?? Seems like a very nice piece of equipment and Cheers guys for the video, much appreciated ;-)

[@themaltmiller8438]

Here you go! www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/chubby-pressure-fermenter-beer-kit-bundle/

[@plug4uk696]

@@themaltmiller8438 Cheers guys, my Birthday is coming soon and think I know what I want off my kids now Lol ;-)

[@mickoconnell7822]

​@themaltmiller8438 hi do you do this set up for the 10 liter one too as I'm pushed for space thanks

[@G-townbrewer]

Nice idea. Would this work with beers that had a bigger dry hop? Wondering if having the hops from that sitting at the bottom over a long period would affect the taste? i.e. would they start getting grassy tasting?

[@themaltmiller8438]

It will Depend on how much you add, but yes it could start to go grassy

[@stu_artist]

Hi Guys, I brought this kit and its amazing, already put it to test BUT as I'm using it in my "shed" - its cold, do I need to heat the barrel? The yeast has kicked off. The pressure has been held back, finally to about 8 psi......... do I need to heat it to about 22 degrees C?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Ideally for an ale yeast you want to be in the 18-20c range. If you add a heating wrap like this one (www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/fermentation-heating-wrap-belt-with-velcro-strap-30watts/) you can heat the beer whilst fermenting. Add a temperature controller such as this ( www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/inkbird-temperature-controller/ ) and you'll be able to set the controller to control the temperature. Perfect in the colder winter months and then in the summer buy a cheap second hand undercounted fridge and the controller can do both heating and cooling for you, watch this video for an idea of how to do this (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXWvp3irj5mke9Esi=vae1fi7TwiNb1YlS)

[@JPch108]

Muito bom ... obrigado Portugal

[@doctorsam1953]

Just to clarify (daft lassie question inbound!): the pressure in the Chubby builds up naturally from fermentation? Or do you sometimes have to use a bit of CO2 to help it along?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Not daft at all, yes it will build up naturally and carbonate naturally. You might need to top up for serving though, as you drink the beer the pressure I’ll reduce as the gas expands into the void

[@midlifetastic3921]

Hi guys loved the video, how long would my beer keep in the barrel once I start enjoying it? Going to offer this kit as a birthday prey to myself 🍻🍻🍻

[@themaltmiller8438]

If it’s kept cold then months! If you can resist that long anyway… 😂

[@robertchatfield5695]

Did fermenting the festival under pressure inhibit the production of any desired esters?

[@themaltmiller8438]

We didn't set the pressure high enough for that, just enough to keep the vessel slightly pressured, 5psi I think. It has ended up as the best tasting beer kit we've ever made!

[@stu_artist]

Instead of pouring straight to glass for drinking, can you now bottle it too?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Yes, if you use a bottling gun such as www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/duotight-bottle-filler-beer-gun-kit/

[@christhorn6227]

Outstanding clip gentlemen as I’ve just taken delivery of this very kit from yourselves of which I’m incredibly pleased with, could I just ask if you have a link to the best way to de-pressurise the vessel for putting in dry hops?

[@themaltmiller8438]

Sorry, no link but the way you would do so would be to pull the PRV ring and that would dump the CO2 from the vessel, you can then unscrew the lid assembly and drop in your hops. After this, reassemble the lid, close the PRV and then either let the gas bills back up naturally or add in some extra CO2 using the regulator and CO2 bulbs 👍🏻

[@christhorn6227]

@@themaltmiller8438 thank you 👍

[@timhicks2154]

I need to get with the times I reckon!

[@MartinKinsey-g6r]

Do you have to carbonate the beer with sugar as instructed by most beer kits

[@themaltmiller8438]

No, you can use the spending valve included in the kit we sell to add carbonation to the beer naturally, as a byproduct of the fermentation

[@timhicks2154]

Very interesting! Thanks.

[@jonny3970]

So how does this setup fare in the winter months when say your house is cooler & you have no temperature control? Thanks

[@themaltmiller8438]

There’s the option to add one of these www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/fermentation-heating-wrap-belt-with-velcro-strap-30watts/ It’s ultra low watt density so will work fine on a plastic FV such as the chubby. You can then add a temperature controller such as an InkBird so that you can set a temperature you want the beer to sit at whilst fermenting

[@chrisb5839]

How do you get the inkbird thermometer into the sealed chubby?

[@stu_artist]

When will this kit be available again?

[@themaltmiller8438]

We're just waiting on another shipment to arrive at our suppliers of the Chubby, if you join the waitlist for the product you'll get an email as soon as it arrives

[@stu_artist]

@@themaltmiller8438 OK, any idea when? Please.

[@stu_artist]

I just got mine about 5 days ago - they got stock as we speak!

[@michaelkennedy8766]

Starting home brewing in the 70’s and never had a successful brew using pressure barrels, always bottled up to a few years ago. Amazed these things are still around.

[@timhicks2154]

Odd. I have been using pressure barrels since the late 1970’s. Consistently good results.