"Pretty Redundant Argument!" Ian Danter CLASHES With Simon Jordan Over Darts As A Sport!

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@wilko3017
@wilko3017 Күн бұрын
Frankly I couldn’t give a toss if it’s a sport, game or hobby. It’s entertaining and I like watching it.
@madforit2
@madforit2 Күн бұрын
Exactly. How it's classified is irrelevant. Does it reduce the skill level because it doesn't have the sport status attached to it? Of course it doesn't. Does it mean it's less entertaining? Not really. I wouldn't be a huge fan of the game but whether it's a sport or a game is irrelevant. I love Snooker and find it more entertaining than several undisputed sports but to many that's a game but I couldn't care less how it's classified, it does not reduce my enjoyment
@CHRISTISKING-h1p
@CHRISTISKING-h1p Күн бұрын
If it's not a sport why are talkSPORT talking about it
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
Agreed.
@snowskatesnow
@snowskatesnow Күн бұрын
Pointless debate. If you’re not interested in it why are you watching this video?
@groomys67
@groomys67 Күн бұрын
Damn, was just typing the same.
@MrEminem
@MrEminem Күн бұрын
@@snowskatesnow he clearly is interested in it?
@briancuthbert4508
@briancuthbert4508 Күн бұрын
Try throwing as many darts as these guys do for afew days!! Believe me !! It’s a sport 😉
@neilchapman4037
@neilchapman4037 Күн бұрын
keown doing his christmas colouring books
@JD-re3cj
@JD-re3cj Күн бұрын
Dribbling all over it
@matt4377
@matt4377 Күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@Craw678
@Craw678 Күн бұрын
😅
@Craw678
@Craw678 Күн бұрын
😅
@stevenjohnson7442
@stevenjohnson7442 13 сағат бұрын
He's got zero interest on this topic and he's making it clear and obvious.
@willgoodall1529
@willgoodall1529 Күн бұрын
Who cares. I'd rather watch darts than women's football
@burnaardnufc3173
@burnaardnufc3173 Күн бұрын
I'd rather watch women's darts than women's football.
@gb-jk7sx
@gb-jk7sx Күн бұрын
I'd rather watch women doing dishes than winens football
@flyingwarrior7155
@flyingwarrior7155 Күн бұрын
😂​@@burnaardnufc3173
@Craw678
@Craw678 Күн бұрын
I'd rather watch women watching women.
@box0ftricks116
@box0ftricks116 12 сағат бұрын
😂😂 these comments.
@paulmeaden5731
@paulmeaden5731 Күн бұрын
Why the obsession with whether it's a sport or a game? Either way, what the guys do takes incredible accuracy and consistency and under huge pressure aswell at the big events. Respect their skills
@andyhall666
@andyhall666 22 сағат бұрын
I was once told by a guy who did a sports degree that the definition of a sport was to meet 3 things. 1. It has to be competed by more than one person (i.e. solitaire doesn't count). 2. There has to be a target (such as first to something or first past the line) and 3. There has to be a physicality involved (therefore chess or monopoly for example wouldn't count, as you could play equally as well if someone moved the piece for you, but alternatively darts/pool/snooker, for example, would count as you couldn't ask someone to play a shot or throw a dart for you).
@hollybush2007
@hollybush2007 12 сағат бұрын
Golf is done by one person so how does that apply?
@andyhall666
@andyhall666 12 сағат бұрын
In golf you would compete against others, so it isn't a solo activity like, say, doing a crossword or playing solitaire.
@hewoguys2506
@hewoguys2506 Күн бұрын
Simon just hates anything matchroom
@misterwardy1972
@misterwardy1972 Күн бұрын
Yeah totally. I really use to enjoy listening to Simon, came across as very intelligent and unbiased even if slightly arrogant, but at least for the last 18 months-2 years, he’s now just interested in saying stuff to creating headlines for views and stir controversy, it’s not genuine and he’s not genuine anymore.
@simonoliver8576
@simonoliver8576 Күн бұрын
​@@misterwardy1972 I hate this argument that darts aint a sport personally m8 its just bs🤣 if it is not a sport then what it is and the way that sport has grown and turned in to what it is today should be applauded not criticised if anything however he seems to have a problem with the hearns simon jordan its matchroom barry hearn who promotes the darts jordan is probably just bitter that they have made so much money out of it probably🤣
@neilbatchelor8418
@neilbatchelor8418 Күн бұрын
​@@misterwardy1972 his own business failures were the catalyst for his current mindset.
@mattmaciver7981
@mattmaciver7981 Күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more, the argument is totally redundant, it is just a matter of class - those that resent the working classes, seek to detract from darts being a sport
@fishingstevie8830
@fishingstevie8830 Күн бұрын
@@misterwardy1972 Im with Simon on this ..We know more 👍
@racewaymediaproductions8554
@racewaymediaproductions8554 Күн бұрын
Urgh... The smug grin on White's face when he's succeeded in stirring up yet another pointless argument.
@Sam.o.29
@Sam.o.29 Күн бұрын
It's his job to be fair 🤣
@sticksman1979
@sticksman1979 Күн бұрын
He’s a prat.
@tweedlio2763
@tweedlio2763 21 сағат бұрын
Why listen/watch then?
@joeburns9676
@joeburns9676 20 сағат бұрын
I like jim but even he most of the time doesn’t believe some of the counter arguments his saying .
@marvellousdazza2836
@marvellousdazza2836 Күн бұрын
Who gives a toss whether Darts is a “Sport” or a “Game” what does it even matter? It doesn’t affect anything.. It’s pure entertainment to watch and that’s all that matters. People love to suggest it’s a “Game” to try and downplay it but it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference if it is a “Game”
@laurasands8322
@laurasands8322 Күн бұрын
Exactly, it's entertainment so is football, it's forgetting about your job or the state of the country, it's giving you joy for a while.
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck Күн бұрын
It is officially recognised in this country, USA, Netherlands, Germany and Belgium as a sport.
@heldinahtmlhell
@heldinahtmlhell 22 сағат бұрын
I agree. What does it matter? What does it matter if a woman is a woman? Why do words have to mean anything?
@heldinahtmlhell
@heldinahtmlhell 22 сағат бұрын
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck Gun ownership is officially recognised as a fundamental right in the USA. Who cares? It's officially not a sport. A sport is physical, and has an athletic component. It's a pub game.
@gohumberto
@gohumberto Күн бұрын
I'm confident in saying Luke Littler won't beat Taylor's 16 record. Nobody will. However 6 wins would put him in 2nd place in History. I can definitely see him getting another 5. It actually puts Phil Taylor's achievement into perspective.
@andymcnab2.0
@andymcnab2.0 Күн бұрын
I think Luke should concentrate back to back titles and maybe 3 in a row matching Bristow would be a awesome achievement as Phil's reign was nothing like the players of today (dart players today) a rank 30 could wipe the floor with a champion.
@teamblitz1990
@teamblitz1990 Күн бұрын
Take away the world championship and darts just becomes a niche sport. If darts remains behind a pay tv wall then the public recognition will always be in single figures for viewers.
@kennywilkinson913
@kennywilkinson913 Күн бұрын
Taylor didn't win his 1st until he was 30
@jackgk6203
@jackgk6203 Күн бұрын
@teamblitz1990cry
@davidcoomber4050
@davidcoomber4050 Күн бұрын
Luke will be the all time darts player and people will say Taylor who
@MrSing09
@MrSing09 Күн бұрын
The darts is the only feelgood and wholesome entertainment we have left in the UK, especially if your a UTD fan.....
@anynamewilldookay
@anynamewilldookay Күн бұрын
Darts like pool and snooker is a sport, but less about aerobic ability (obviously) and more about skill and accuracy. It's enjoyable and it's pretty miserable trying to attack it !
@bigdav47
@bigdav47 Күн бұрын
I know, I can think of Olympic sports that dont rely on aerobic ability...archery.....shooting.....showjumping....i'm sure there are plenty more?
@Denzle1989
@Denzle1989 Күн бұрын
How did Jordan and White turn a good interview into argument whether darts is a sport or not, they just can't help themselves. If you like it or not darts is a sport, it's not up for debate.
@kevinmcnicoll8649
@kevinmcnicoll8649 Күн бұрын
Olympic committee would disagree
@WalterWhiteJP
@WalterWhiteJP Күн бұрын
@@kevinmcnicoll8649 Who cares what they think.
@Denzle1989
@Denzle1989 Күн бұрын
@kevinmcnicoll8649 who cares about the Olympic committe it's a sport in Britain. It's not globaly recognised but over here in the UK it is
@rossrobson91
@rossrobson91 Күн бұрын
It became an interview about fat shaming and they laughed about it, disgusting.
@kevinmcnicoll8649
@kevinmcnicoll8649 Күн бұрын
@Denzle1989 it's not a sport when you have a 17 year old who vapes and carries about 20 stone. It's a pub game, game being the word
@robertwilliamson9576
@robertwilliamson9576 Күн бұрын
Bull is always the route when a pro is on 132. The reason being if they miss the bull and hit the outer ring, the leave 107 which is still a 2 dart checkout. You won’t see a pro going for treb 20 1st dart when they are on 132 is their opponent is on a finish
@fishingstevie8830
@fishingstevie8830 Күн бұрын
THis is because they think their opponent agsin a pro is ble to check out also . But they can go treble 20 which then leaves the 72 and then treble say 16 for dble 12 ..or 2 x treble 20s for dble 6 ..so many ways can go ..But bull with 1st darts like you say is good way i norm go ..
@DellBoyy-o6d
@DellBoyy-o6d Күн бұрын
Simion said young people do win this” and compared it to a 23/24 year olds,, 17 is a huge difference to 24 hes still a kid
@streetspirit956
@streetspirit956 7 сағат бұрын
💯
@shaunrodriguez4546
@shaunrodriguez4546 Күн бұрын
Littler was named young "sports" personality of the year. Why would he be in that if Darts isn't a sport
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck 20 сағат бұрын
Good call.
@gobbollino2688
@gobbollino2688 6 сағат бұрын
…Garth
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 Күн бұрын
It’s a target sport like shooting or archery 🤷‍♂️
@BillWhitlingham
@BillWhitlingham Күн бұрын
Bingo! I came to say the same thing
@heldinahtmlhell
@heldinahtmlhell 21 сағат бұрын
Shooting isn't a sport. And archery used to be very physically demanding. It required a lot of strength to do it.
@ashleybelsten8903
@ashleybelsten8903 Күн бұрын
“It’s behind a paywall” It is if you ignore the multiple tournaments on ITV.
@louisbeerreviews8964
@louisbeerreviews8964 Күн бұрын
Darts is on sky sports
@ashleybelsten8903
@ashleybelsten8903 Күн бұрын
@ and ITV
@streetspirit956
@streetspirit956 7 сағат бұрын
Yeah. I watch all the tournaments that are live on either ITV or sky. I don't just watch the world championship.
@Garryo1777
@Garryo1777 Күн бұрын
Darts is definitely a sport.Death Diving,Tug of war and Caber Tossing are all classed of sport.End of discussion 😊
@fishingstevie8830
@fishingstevie8830 Күн бұрын
Field Sports are Sports ..Darts is a game .
@twindigo
@twindigo Күн бұрын
The definition of sport contains the words, physical exertion. So the conversation is not over. Tug of war and caber toss require physical exertion do they not. Thinking or knowing before speaking is handy. It’s a game, like chess, pool, snooker etc.
@andymcnab2.0
@andymcnab2.0 Күн бұрын
It takes practice to win a dart tournament, many many hours/days/years of dedication.
@adamferreira2487
@adamferreira2487 Күн бұрын
I love darts.... But its a pub game like snooker pool simple as that
@smashyrashy
@smashyrashy Күн бұрын
Indoor sports exist
@Denzle1989
@Denzle1989 Күн бұрын
It's a sport and that's a fact. What you think is an opinion
@26Scored
@26Scored Күн бұрын
If archery is an Olympic sport why isn't darts?
@sambrown8301
@sambrown8301 Күн бұрын
I dont really care whether people call it a sport or not who actually cares. But i mean by this logic surely things like archery, curling or shooting arent sports either
@JD-re3cj
@JD-re3cj Күн бұрын
Real archery took big men to use well, that’s why the English and Welsh longbowmen were the best in the world and also the best darts players in the world.
@ronrammer4666
@ronrammer4666 Күн бұрын
It’s a recognised sport. Just like archery in the olympics.
@Wppsamsung2024
@Wppsamsung2024 Күн бұрын
I've started watching alot more since last year, Littler is part of it (gets you in the door), but the other characters in the game, the production quality, the 'vibes'! Just enjoyable to watch and good bang for your buck in terms of sporting entertainment.
@stephendavies1708
@stephendavies1708 14 сағат бұрын
This is not SJ saying Darts is not a sport. He’s playing devils advocate whilst Jim White is showing himself to be disrespectful to darts by bringing that argument up.
@cyrilsquirrel7573
@cyrilsquirrel7573 Күн бұрын
Luke littler to sign for Manchester United in January transfer market 180❤
@mkkravist11
@mkkravist11 Күн бұрын
The snobbery on display is about as much as the disdain for darts. So they don’t all look like Michael Phelps? So what! Fat shaming these guys is uncool. It’s high skill with huge pressure, mental toughness and acuity, and massive entertainment. Golf has a lot of what Simon would call obese people, not all snooker players are Athletes, there’s a lot of sports that aren’t full of Athletic people. Shame (again) on these ridiculous presenters. Dants was right to stand up for the people’s game and those that entertain the people.
@BoxingTalk97
@BoxingTalk97 Күн бұрын
It is a sport, these men are some of the top athletes in the world
@adamknight4114
@adamknight4114 Күн бұрын
These dart players are not athletes. On athlete is someone who exercises his or her muscles and lungs to be able to compete. No exercise is necessary for darts. I think it’s a great game and takes a lot of skill to play
@JD-re3cj
@JD-re3cj Күн бұрын
@@adamknight4114absolute delusional statement. Arm movement, shoulder muscles used, wrist muscles, every time the dart is thrown it’s exercising , what do you think the best medieval longbowmen in the world used to look like? English and Welsh
@girltal.k
@girltal.k Күн бұрын
Its not. Its a game. Like chess.
@dempseyni1690
@dempseyni1690 Күн бұрын
Athlete? Yeah Bunting is a specimen, great game, super skill, but have a day off he's built like a tub of lard
@BoxingTalk97
@BoxingTalk97 Күн бұрын
@@adamknight4114 Luke Littler is up there with the ronaldos and messi’s when they were 17 athlete wise
@davidcoomber4050
@davidcoomber4050 Күн бұрын
To say darts isn’t a sport you have to ask the question are half the events in the Olympics like pistol shooting, archery, bowls sports, is snooker judo or mountain biking sport , is syncretised swimming , or show jumping 🐎
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 Күн бұрын
I think darts is a target sport Judo and synchronised swimming takes athleticism and stamina they aren’t in the same category, synchronised swimming is cardio and body control while you can’t breath
@deepzepp4176
@deepzepp4176 Күн бұрын
It takes dedication, practice and skill, but it isn't a sport. It’s marketed itself into a sport, and fair play to them.
@burnaardnufc3173
@burnaardnufc3173 Күн бұрын
World #1 at such a young age. Luke is up there with Pele, Mike Tyson and Martina Hingis.
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
The dictionary defines sport as something that has to include physical exertion. Darts isn’t physically exerting. It’s a game and that’s it. Btw this is coming from a huge fan of darts , I play and watch regularly 🎯
@zacksmith9864
@zacksmith9864 Күн бұрын
You throw darts for a couple hours and tell me how your arm feels tomorrow
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
@ I’ve played darts for 4 hours before and felt no difference . Behave yourself ffs
@theoriginaltimetraveller7597
@theoriginaltimetraveller7597 Күн бұрын
Do you realise how many calories a top pro darts players needs after training or a competition? It's incredible what they do. I have some experience standing around for a couple hours under pressure with my last job, and it's not easy on the body or mind.
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
@@theoriginaltimetraveller7597 ohh stop it man. You think standing up and flinging darts at a board is testing physically? You need to get in shape if that’s the case
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
@@theoriginaltimetraveller7597 ohh stop ffs
@trishennaidoo1309
@trishennaidoo1309 Күн бұрын
Darts players can't be compared to football ,tennis which is physical and mentally hard but it's still a sport of sorts .
@rossrobson91
@rossrobson91 Күн бұрын
The mental aspect in football isn’t anywhere near what you need in darts, the pressure in darts is light years more compared to football, no sport can be compared to another sport because they are all unique in their own way, sport doesn’t mean you have to be fit, sport means you need skill and it’s got that.
@trishennaidoo1309
@trishennaidoo1309 Күн бұрын
@rossrobson91 the mental aspect is a lot more depending where u play ,and what team u play for , Darts players play for themselves, footballers plays for millions of fans ,there are levels to pressure and mental stress ,I'm sure darts players don't have fans burning pictures or shirts of them on the street when they have a bad game.
@niall3973
@niall3973 Күн бұрын
​@@rossrobson91 You cant really compare team and individual sports in this respect. Though I do think a penalty shootout puts a lot more pressure on than a darts critical moment.
@noelmadden1920
@noelmadden1920 Күн бұрын
Darts is a damn site more interesting than transfer deadline day that Jim made his name for. The Hearns are living rent free in the heads of these paupers!
@sebby-d6124
@sebby-d6124 21 сағат бұрын
Darts can help boost the economy n stop publicans from going out of business....Should be an olympic sport
@LouSasshall
@LouSasshall Күн бұрын
is more difficult to do what littler does then be an average footballer surrounded by a team of pros
@safecrackergold3743
@safecrackergold3743 Күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s a sport but I love watching it who really cares is green bowling classed as a sport
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 Күн бұрын
Why talk about darts when they don’t know what they’re talking about. What they saying is insulting Littler achievements . Darts has more strength in depth than ever. Bristow at 22 was still 5 years older. Let’s just enjoy the brilliance of Luke and others coming through, instead of comparing pointlessly different eras.
@Milkydrummer
@Milkydrummer Күн бұрын
People writing off Humphries like he’s just going to move aside for Littler…
@niall3973
@niall3973 Күн бұрын
I like darts, I watch a fair amount of darts(though on mute), I believe it is a sport, but it's becoming a pretty overrated sport. It really doesn't involve that much skill and thought compared to other sports.
@lonclarke4912
@lonclarke4912 21 сағат бұрын
If snooker and chess are games. So is darts...And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.. Calling it a game should not be deemed derogatory...
@johngreenhorn8853
@johngreenhorn8853 16 сағат бұрын
People really need to check the definition between a sport and a game,darts is a sport.
@MrSimonson
@MrSimonson 17 сағат бұрын
Martin showing he knows very little about darts thinking two bulls is a special way to go for 132.
@John-x5n6r
@John-x5n6r Күн бұрын
The argument is very simple. Darts is a sport, BUT it's not an athletic sport. Why can't people recognise the two ffs.
@rossrobson91
@rossrobson91 Күн бұрын
Because some people are thick and dumb unfortunately, they think sport is purely about how fat or thin somebody is, it’s pathetic.
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck Күн бұрын
Correct...If clay pigeon shooting (aim and pull trigger) is officially an Olympic sport..so is darts
@manx1569
@manx1569 Күн бұрын
It is a sport, lot's of back, arm, shoulder injuries etc. No different to Golf, snooker etc
@heldinahtmlhell
@heldinahtmlhell 21 сағат бұрын
Lmao
@smyffmawzz
@smyffmawzz Күн бұрын
Darts on the radio isnt far away from snooker on the radio .pmsl
@heldinahtmlhell
@heldinahtmlhell 21 сағат бұрын
I'd rather listen to mime on the radio
@Jofan03
@Jofan03 19 сағат бұрын
Snooker is probably the most lonely and enduring sport fought in predominantly silent arenas ticking over every missed pot. Darts is also skill based but you’re laid bare in front of an arena of drunken loud fans that could go either way in regard to atmosphere. It may not be football or rugby but you wouldn’t catch many people up on that stage able to hack the pressure they go through.
@johnlawler6476
@johnlawler6476 Күн бұрын
Simon pulling percentages out of his arse again.....
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Күн бұрын
Sir Lordship Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@olbapoli4074
@olbapoli4074 Күн бұрын
It's not a sport. It's a game but it doesn't matter. I don't particularly enjoy it but it's got a fan base and good for them. Obviously it's entertaining for many. Good for the kid that won too. Fair play
@girltal.k
@girltal.k Күн бұрын
Rugby sport footy sport , tennis sport. Snooker ...no darts no... activity, pastime
@Padgestic
@Padgestic Күн бұрын
Ronnie O'Sullivan won the UK championship at 17, Michael Owen playing for England at a young age, world on his shoulder, there are other comparisons too.
@DJFarky
@DJFarky Күн бұрын
Large being an operative word got me wheezing loooolllllllllllll 🤣
@marcmorrissey1147
@marcmorrissey1147 Күн бұрын
Darts like snooker or pool is simply a game not a sport.
@garyrobbins3515
@garyrobbins3515 Күн бұрын
It started in the previous world championship where littler got to the final, I went out news years day for a pitch of darts and couldn't get in the dart board, loads of youngsters playing darts, first time that's happened all the years I've been going out news years day
@samr2332
@samr2332 Күн бұрын
Darts is as much of a sport as Golf, Bowls and Curling. Something people train to get better at and challenge each other in.
@26Scored
@26Scored Күн бұрын
"you can only have one world champion at a time" WDF seething
@ChrisTravelss
@ChrisTravelss Күн бұрын
90% are overweight or obese Humphries, MVG, Price, Heta, Asp, Noppert, Dimitri, Schindler, De Decker, Van Veen, Pikachu, Ratajski, Woodhouse. That's 13 of the top 32 that are in good shape or at least not overweight. I left Cross out because he fluctuates a bit. Clayton has a bit of a belly but definitely not massive. Same with littler. If you include them it's exactly 50% of the top 32 are in "good/decent" shape. It's such a lazy argument to say it's a fat man's sport. Essentially "tell me you've never watched darts without saying it" The days of everyone being like Andy Fordham are over. Could say the same about footballers 30 years ago.
@MartiEverton
@MartiEverton Күн бұрын
although true your numbers dont account for the thousands of players that are not in front of the camera which I am sure makes a difference. Still probably not as high as 90% but I'd bet closer to 80 than 50
@ChrisTravelss
@ChrisTravelss Күн бұрын
@MartiEverton I'm stating the top of the game. We can go deeper down the field if you like. Doets, Veenstra, De Graaf, Meickle, Nijman, Hempel, Barry, O Connor, Mansell, Whitlock, Scutt, Souter, Sedlacek, Zonneveld, Razma. There's another 16 of the next 35 or so. My point is you're not going to dominate or even be successful in this sport/game/whatever you want to call it, if you're an overweight drunk. You know who's been falling down the rankings? King, Barney, Smith, Evans, Wright, Wade, DVD, Clemens, Mensur, Jose..... all the big lads. Even the kines of Josh Rock have plateaued since he's piled on the weight, same with Cam Menzies, Rydz, Dolan, Scott Williams, Gurney, Dobey etc. Again, it's really not like that anymore..... and if you want me to account for every single person that's picked up a dart, we can go the same with any sport. Not all Sunday league footballers are fit and healthy. Not all club golfers look like Brooks or Bryson etc etc.
@MartiEverton
@MartiEverton Күн бұрын
@ChrisTravelss not all other sports with players at the top are being called out on their weight which creates a poor perception. the others you have mentioned have also been in front of the cameras and therefore more conscious. most of those you mentioned have at some point been overweight and still are if you apply the dumb science behind it. i believe its a sport anyway even if theyre all the size of andy fordham. the point made was basically many dont look at it as a sport because of the beer/smoking fat guy perception which still exists. a perception that most likely wont change unless the majority look like humphries or price unfortubately. end of the day its a sport for me, the mental toughness and actually standing on your feet for hours is quite demanding not to mention the entertainment and they perform with the crowd shouting unlike tennis/snooker.
@MartiEverton
@MartiEverton Күн бұрын
@CaptainMarvel84 calm down sweetcheeks, try and understand a reply before piping up. he hasnt destroyed any point because the 'perception' still exists hence why those with the perception dont consider it a sport. 90% from simon is a tongue in cheek, exaggerated reply to get a giggle/response.
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 Күн бұрын
Mvg shouldn’t be on that list 😂
@mr.perceval6811
@mr.perceval6811 6 сағат бұрын
Darts is a game. You can play it without changing your footwear.
@jonb4248
@jonb4248 Күн бұрын
It’s not an athletic game, but it’s a sport. Archery is a sport, snooker is a sport.
@magillanz
@magillanz Күн бұрын
These people who say it not athletic let them try to throw darts for an hour
@leedavies1475
@leedavies1475 Күн бұрын
My dad told me when I was a kid. Anything that a 60 year old can beat a 21 year old at isn't a sport
@leedavies1475
@leedavies1475 Күн бұрын
@CaptainMarvel84 look up the definition of sport. An activity involving physical exertion and skill. Aint no 60 year old sportsman beating a 21 year old sportsman at any sport, without getting extremely lucky
@chrismasondarts
@chrismasondarts Күн бұрын
Walking is a sport in the Olympics, as is pistol shooting, Archery, ski jumping, at a pro tour event you can be on your feet from 10am until 6pm. try to practice 6 hours and try doint it 7 days a week
@MartinSmith-qt3cc
@MartinSmith-qt3cc Күн бұрын
He’s been practicing for over 15 years, hardly a phenomenon. Basically puts the pub hobby into perspective
@EmmyG7
@EmmyG7 Күн бұрын
washing cooking pots is more physical than chucking darts....a mere board game to me
@sharkyxxx4057
@sharkyxxx4057 Күн бұрын
i sense someone who can cook? try washing a cooking pot after making lasagna ..roast chicken and scrambled egg... they have to be cleaned perfect mind you...then load the same 3 pots up.... cook again .... clean again....wait for a friend to clean there pots better than you ... then clean again and again and again all the while they have to be perfect .... if you can do 9 pots perfectly clean in under 3 minutes and then do another hour of nearly clean pots ...but close to perfect ..without losing a gram and losing your mind because your friend cleans pots better than you..ill agree.....
@Rossyedmonds
@Rossyedmonds Күн бұрын
@@EmmyG7 you don’t paid 500k for one event doing that though.
@mikew742
@mikew742 23 сағат бұрын
Martin Keown out of step with the conversation as usual - they should rename White & Jordan “talking bollox with Keown”
@gbt7406
@gbt7406 23 сағат бұрын
The fat argument about darts players is always something that annoys me. They are mostly over 40 years old. I can show you many ex athletes and footballers over 40 who are now over weight.
@paulbergin5903
@paulbergin5903 Күн бұрын
Is archery a sport,is bowling,is pool,is clay pigeon, is snooker, i think they are,and i think darts fell into this category.
@magillanz
@magillanz Күн бұрын
These people seem to forget that Darts is watched world wide not just in UK.
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck
@nowthennowthen-ys4ck 20 сағат бұрын
Darts is global..40 nations competed in the 2024 world cup of darts,
@richardparsons9573
@richardparsons9573 Күн бұрын
No one will ever beat phill Taylor world darts record!!!
@antonywebb9191
@antonywebb9191 Күн бұрын
Littler will be better than Taylor He’s got a 10 year head start
@Coxinha87
@Coxinha87 Күн бұрын
Simon reminds me of a couple of mates of mine that know really successful people and are always borrowing glory from them by telling people about the amazing things these successful friends are doing. Nobody cares about your rich mates, Simon. And also, nobody is buying the idea that somebody spent £300m on a minority stake in a company for darts. You’re talking nonsense. No wonder this guy failed in business. If he told me it was cold outside I wouldn’t believe him until I got sick. Forever in Eddie’s shadow.
@kevinpillay6103
@kevinpillay6103 Күн бұрын
Its a game not sport. Great to see how the brand has grown and the player's are in the spotlight but a game it is.
@TheBullitproofMunk
@TheBullitproofMunk 23 сағат бұрын
Taylor has 16 world titles. not 17. WTF is going on here. Keown aint listening * Jordan doesnt know WTF hes talkling about
@NickLoTurco
@NickLoTurco Күн бұрын
Jim White hardly let's anyone finish a sentence.
@fishingstevie8830
@fishingstevie8830 Күн бұрын
As a guy well in his 60s now , who has played darts from way back in the 70s , darts is a game not a Sport although most young darters because they are lazy would like to make it into a Sport , they want it made into wait for it ---> An Olympic Sport aye Actually as you guys know Re-darts Its a game brought on from the pubs up and down the length of the UK for the working class class . though its went more so middle classes today also . Certainly not as busy being played in bars all over UK nowadays to what it was like in 70s and 80s i recall , and even today young ones need a calculator ive often seen being used to calculate their scores ..Much prefer top of head calculate from chalk board and something i learnt as i knew i had to learn calculate quickly for ways to go for Check outs and did learn and now my head is a calculator on its own and i was not so good at school but learnt much more through grit and determination to learn ..today Luke Littler just different , as dont see many players who can handle mental side of game , some very good darters but mental side is half battle won if u can handle nerves ..Young guy does very well and with ability on top is why he is doing very well Shall he continue to do so remains to be seen ^ as he shall see his pals going out to enjoy themselfs , shall he wnt to keep on practicing and travelling for the darts all time ? Shall he be taken away by his friend/s for other things in life ? Sure his parents shall put it to him best stay with the darts with all moneys he is making , and rightly so he should still very young as yet and got many yrs ahead of him can make a mint of money and later when he feels need to pack in but he may be aiming to beat taylors record of title wins , tough to do , even more so today id reckon But my fav times was Rees , Wilson , Bristow them guys and others way back , but games came on a load since Hearn seen £s signs as its went since Global again a good thing and who knows where it shall end up darts huge the now with young guys like Littler , Humphries and number of other top young players from all over the globe hs turned it into a very big thing Darts today . As for bullseyes ive often hit 3 x times bullseyes inc other night inc 2x180s just before the going for some bulls eyes all in fun practice alone in room , and yes it is a bu-g-er done on your own in the room Although i did hit 4 x times 180s on one evening in a tournament , but it is something id never go for with say 150 left really the 3 x bullseyes ..But if Luke Littler or Gary Anderson checked out 3 x bullseyes for the 150 check out you would not hear the end of it . By way i have played Jocky Wilson for £s way back when i was 17 yrs of age , before i even knew who he was before or seen on tv only just months after i seen Jocky on tv ..then later shared oche with him , both us alone and some fun was had re banter in Scotland , and did Jocky keek into an empty lounge bar except for myself at the oche when i was practicing and he then came in when told ye no probs in you come , to join for a time was all good fun and banter between us both with just bar lady in lounge bar at time me and Jocky . But ye Darts to me is just a game , a game i enjoy . But would not surprise me with way things are going if it is not brought into the Olympics
@musquito333
@musquito333 Күн бұрын
Anything you play inside a pub isn’t a sport .
Күн бұрын
Lets be honest, its on the worlds then it goes under the radar till next year.
@obitv101
@obitv101 Күн бұрын
Turned into a 3 against 1 for this interview and while you can ask certain questions, I think darts is in a place where there are enough positives to focus on and shine a light on the hard work which goes in. Also, I would consider sport to be more than just athleticism, mental strength has to be more important in a world where anyone can hit the gym for 20+ hours per week. If you aren't there mentally, you won't win shit and that goes for all sports in the modern day.
@sheenyheed
@sheenyheed Күн бұрын
Football is the 'beautiful game' not the 'beautiful sport'
@hanifashhou
@hanifashhou Күн бұрын
The fall of a civilisation when Darts becomes second biggest activity.
@geraldschmerald264
@geraldschmerald264 Күн бұрын
Any game that is determined by physical action rather than mental action is a sport. Hence football, rugby, darts, snooker are sports and chess, esports etc are not. The degree of physical exertion cannot be used as the differential because to set the bar of how much physical exertion is arbitrary and changes for different players within individual games within the same sport!
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
@@geraldschmerald264 I think you’re really reaching here. In general terms, darts doesn’t require physical extertion. It’s very simple. It’s a game not a sport.
@geraldschmerald264
@geraldschmerald264 Күн бұрын
@MrTears03 I understand and appreciate your reply but I don't think you disproved any part of what I said or showed how it wouldn't be arbitrary by your definition.
@MrTears03
@MrTears03 Күн бұрын
@@geraldschmerald264 And that’s ok. We’re allowed to disagree. I just feel it’s very simple. I go by the dictionary definition of what a sport is and darts isn’t that, that’s all.
@misterwardy1972
@misterwardy1972 Күн бұрын
They are all games, all sports. Who fancies a GAME of golf? A GAME of TENNIS? There ya go
@geraldschmerald264
@geraldschmerald264 Күн бұрын
@misterwardy1972 Yes, sports are just games decided by a physical action/exertion, and since throwing is a physical action/exertion, darts is a sport.
@garyburt9654
@garyburt9654 5 сағат бұрын
If it’s not a sport, why is it shown on Sky Sports?
@winnerwinnerchickendinner-y4w
@winnerwinnerchickendinner-y4w 12 сағат бұрын
The whole "paywall" thing is nonsense ; if you like sport you've got Sky or Now or whatever ; if you don't you're not going to watch it anyway.
@scottburbridge8378
@scottburbridge8378 7 сағат бұрын
Whys it not a sport because of the physical demands theres none in bowls or archery but they are sports
@robertrice9466
@robertrice9466 Күн бұрын
Of course it’s a sport, it doesn’t need its players to be athletic but it requires great skill and also you need be very very strong mentally. It’s a SPORT, love how people are still looking down their noses at darts after all these years, their snobs. Darts is better to watch than the football to slot off people and it’s growing. 🎯🎯🎯👌
@kyletomey43
@kyletomey43 Күн бұрын
Simon really is so bitter towards anything Hearn😂😂
@CraigPitman-j7h
@CraigPitman-j7h 23 сағат бұрын
I think darts is the most entertaining sport out there dont ever compare tennis to darts especially nowadays no nadal no murray no federer djokovic be gone soon its literally up there with football now and its accessible to the masses
@ryanbyrne1497
@ryanbyrne1497 Күн бұрын
Simon is out of touch, it’s not just about people watching it, the uplift in people playing it aswell has gone boom the last 2/3 year
@dman9152
@dman9152 Күн бұрын
Darts is game not a sport.
@mrdynamitehee
@mrdynamitehee Күн бұрын
If darts is a sport, so is chess, poker, snooker and grand theft auto. All of them require skill and practice but it’s an insult to boxers, athletes and footballers who have to add physical fitness and stamina to their game to call darts a ‘sport’. It’s just a game, nothing more. There’s a reason why no one calls chess a sport.
@eclectica1
@eclectica1 Күн бұрын
Haha. Cry more.
@LabudaKamara
@LabudaKamara Күн бұрын
If it is not a sport then is BBC, TALKSPORT and SKYSPORTS are commentating and Broadcasting it on Air ? Same Old Simon needs to remind himself that he is a failure in Sport Management and she not be giving any sport platforms to talk
@RichardWallis-r9o
@RichardWallis-r9o Күн бұрын
Why do people think Simon is the voice of the people!
@nigelnyoni8265
@nigelnyoni8265 Күн бұрын
The athleticism is in the fine motor movements involved in accurately aiming when throwing darts. It's more a sport (to me) than figure skating and gymnastics. Respond to my comment to hear my argument
@TheFoxpitt
@TheFoxpitt Күн бұрын
So Archery is a sport? Clay pigeon shooting? Both Olympic "sports". Stop being silly!
@sadsack8319
@sadsack8319 Күн бұрын
Let Ian Danter finish a flipping sentence man.
@dlbia9569
@dlbia9569 11 сағат бұрын
For once , fair play Martin keown showing a bit of respect to a brilliant sport - darts
@FaithRomero-ms5kq
@FaithRomero-ms5kq Күн бұрын
Littler is Brilliant,i still dont think he will win 16 more world titals , Taylor had 5 titals to aim for ,in a career he may have thought would last 15-20 years ,ended up lasting 30+ When Taylor started winning the old gaurd were coming to the end ,When yhe pdc started they were only 2 left who were top Taylor and Priestley,they even decided to split the winnings ,until taylor started well out performing priestly There was nobody who coild give taylor a game untill ,new Blood came in the pdc ,from the Bdo , Barney,Part ,Van,GerWen , Taylor had already won 10 titals before ,he had real competition, Littler ,is now playing in an Era where we have Humphreys,Price ,aspinal Smith ,Van Gerwen ,and several other players who on there day can beat anyone ,and thats not even mentioning unknown players , coming through ,Gary Anderson has said theres a young German kid of 10 hes seen ,who has all the talent of littler
@Rossyedmonds
@Rossyedmonds Күн бұрын
Taylor still won when Gerwyn, part, Barney, white, were at there best.
@yeoo5106
@yeoo5106 22 сағат бұрын
Aesthetics of the darts players?? What about Andy Ruiz and his Aesthetics when he rag dolled AJ about the ring?
@IanBaker-t9i
@IanBaker-t9i Күн бұрын
It’s a narrow range of ability. It’s a pub game. Very skilful. I played it in the pub and at Uni as a youth. Entertaining to a point. It’s not athletic. Occasionally it has a burst of popularity but will be bust in a couple of years. And minority following. Like snooker.
@MrSimonson
@MrSimonson 17 сағат бұрын
It literally falls under the definition of sport
@andrewnaismith98
@andrewnaismith98 Күн бұрын
Last few years football has came a long second fiddle to darts over the Christmas period. Darts is on the up at some speed.
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