Previewing Facebook's two new Portals, Portal Go and Portal Plus

[@CNET]

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[@RuudP]

Why should you want to put Facebook spyware in your house?

[@ParzivalKings]

@@lukewatson059 sounds like a person I’d give up on and text only, then how good is that spyware Facebook device? It isn’t

[@anerdwitdacamera204]

You think Alexa is not a spyware?😅

[@tecnopadre]

For all the big data Facebook it's getting from us, the device should be free or even pay us for using it at home.

[@u2blr]

To be fair, FB has roughly 3 billion active users, and made about 30 billion dollars profit in 2020. They make like $10 per user per year.

[@JudgeDredd_]

@@u2blr so they made 89 billion in revenue and only 9 of that was profit? Wow.

[@u2blr]

@@JudgeDredd_My mistake, $9b should be a quarter profit. I have updated my comment, but still, it's take a long time to recover the cost of portal if they want to make it free.

[@JudgeDredd_]

@@u2blr no I may be wrong too I was genuinely asking. I saw something about 89 billion but I couldn’t remember if it was revenue or profit

[@u2blr]

@@JudgeDredd_ Sever and engineers cost a lot of money. Public generally think IT companies make money with no cost.However most of those big tech companies have around 30% net profit margin.

[@sivasubramanianm2029]

Yes, I think you're being a little harsh, and I'll tell you why I feel so. Video calls and app - If you've used the competing devices to make video calls, you'd know that the video call experience in Portal is far superior. To call someone using those other devices, they need to have Alexa app or Duo installed. This one supports Messenger and WhatsApp as first-party apps - most people I know already use it for communication - this is just another 'portal' to get into these platforms. Price - Portals generally see big price-cuts and discounts. For example, the 15.6" Portal Plus Gen 1 was discounted to $99 a few weeks ago. 8" Portal Mini could be bought for $60. I do agree with your thoughts on Portal+ price not making any sense. Portal Go is a great use-case, top-end video calling made portable - as someone who is already into this platform, I'm looking forward to see how it really works. There was no mention of runtime on battery or battery capacity anywhere which is sus though. I think its' real competition though is iPad with centre-stage which is much more versatile. One way to compete is to lower the price as usual.

[@npcimknot958]

Haven't opened facebook in like 2 years.

[@jondeak]

The last thing the world needs is more Facebook in their homes let alone a device with a camera linked to Facebook. Facebook one of the biggest reasons why Americans are so divided.

[@npcimknot958]

If you can flash that device if its just android.. could be a "cheaper" tablet lol

[@jesuschrist4315]

No, mainstream media and politicians are why the country is divided, facebook is just a communication took..

[@jeremyratter3634]

​@@jesuschrist4315 The problem are the cuckoo crazy people that spread conspiracies and lies online combined with uneducated people. Any mentally unstable person can now spread any message they want to the world through the internet, and let's face the reality, there are millions of dumb and gullible people that will believe them.

[@MutebiBashir]

With these portals, expect more Cambridge Analyticas.

[@diatribeUS]

Preview did not mention the higher resolution screen on the new Portal Plus. That's an advantage over the 1st gen version. But I see the new Portal Plus as a downgrade too even though the new model has a higher resolution screen. The screen is now smaller and it doesn't swivel.

[@EWYLEETV]

Can you record using this? Or it just for video calling

[@ragsrama]

Naahhh Imma pass . Don't want zuckerborg lurking anywhere in my living room . Gives me the heebie jeebies

[@jeremyratter3634]

I think you are being harsh on the portal saying it has "so much ground to make up" with other smart devices when it has Amazon Alexa integrated. It's basically an Amazon Echo Show with better video calling system built in and a few features missing from the Amazon Echo Show.

[@disciprine]

Who actually would trust Facebook to be their home assistant?

[@AetherSummers]

Probably the same people who trust Google and Amazon to be their home assistant.

[@u2blr]

I have a window pc with a web cam, a MacBook, an android phone, an iPad, two google Assitant speaker. I think I will trust Facebook as well. 😹

[@disciprine]

@@AetherSummers when has privacy been abused with Google/amazon like it has with facebook?

[@jeremyratter3634]

Facebook doesn't handle the home assistant stuff on the portal, that is handled by Amazon Alexa. Facebook does the video calling and links pictures from Facebook and then sends you to other providers for the rest of the stuff.

[@digviju001]

Na I’m good... I got my own spy cameras

[@RJM316]

Thanks for the heads-up!

[@panamaya]

I decided to buy the portal go for my senior parents who for a variety of reasons can't operate smartphones, tablets or any complex devices. I wanted the simplest possible device for making and receiving calls from relatives overseas. I will be setting up these to do WhatsApp only.

[@ChristopherEjsmont]

What’s the point of this? Don’t people have iPads or other tablets? Much better option

[@JOONEOR]

I am literally watching Mark Zuckerberg talking about this. Never heard of it before. And I came on KZbin to try and figure out...the...exact...same...thing. Oh, it follows you around. So, I guess, I get rid of my laptop and tablet and get this????

[@jeremyratter3634]

Same reason people buy Alexa Show or Google Max smart devices with screens instead of tablets.

[@sakethram687]

They priced it high because of global chip shortage.we need to understand and any electronic device we buy until 2023 may price slightly higher or they come with less features

[@NFEC84]

I would love these to be a Chromebox for the larger one and a Google home go version for the portable one. The form factors are nice but useless with Facebook integration.

[@drstone1167]

🚨Hey Facebook Investor the: Company Paid $5 Billion to FTC as ‘Quid Pro Quo’ to Shield Zuckerberg from more government control of his liberal bias woke website.

[@adielyoaz5105]

Did you omit the fact that the new Portal Plus screen is higher resolution than the previous gen, and any device from the competition, on purpose ? If you did, than that's really bad and possibly shows bias. If it was just a mistake, then that's also pretty pathetic.

[@craigwoodgate7120]

I don't understand why they have released the new ones as they lack a lot of features i have the original portal plus

[@rwyo83]

Not buying anything called Facebook.

[@Daster131]

I'm going to guess that means oculus quest 2 as well or anything oculus related.

[@abewiiparty]

You mean meta.

[@Saturdaymorninghero]

Next time actually get the device to do a review.

[@craigwoodgate4162]

They should focus on releasing more updates and adding more features as I have been using my portal plus for about 6 months but it lacks features its a good display but not enough features

[@kaydelacosta]

hi craig, does "hey portal" voice commands work for you? it doesn't for me. on the other hand alexa is working. thanks!

[@craigwoodgate4162]

@@kaydelacosta I haven't tried it yet

[@icapturethelight1877]

Mark is live talking about it right now on FB

[@npcimknot958]

How many people watching

[@Robertegan]

Most important for me is a large screen for elderly parents to participateat a distance because of less personal movability. So Portal +

[@GIJha]

Shouldn’t there be an environmental fine for launching redundant products?

[@kassdog]

Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's redundant

[@GIJha]

@@kassdog this is a tablet connected to a Wi-Fi network making only calls! Something other devices do already. What’s the point in having another device in the house that does 1/100th the job of a phone at the same price. Doesn’t make sense financially or environmentally. Unless I’m really missing a use of this.

[@kassdog]

@@GIJha older people. It's simplistic. Doesn't do a lot and what it does is easy to do.

[@jeremyratter3634]

You are missing some of the capabilities. It does more than make video calls. It's not as full featured as a tablet but neither are Alexa and Google Nest smart devices either. This has Alexa built in which makes the Plus version a supersized Alexa Show. It has Plex to stream media and live TV, has music streaming apps, web browser and KZbin, can be used as digital picture frame with rotating photos, has recipe apps as well as step by step recipe instructions through Alexa which makes it useful to have in a kitchen. I like the 1st gen Plus for the 15.6" screen to stream my Ring and Wyze security camera feeds by voice command. I bought a few of them when they were clearanced at $99 to make way for the 2021 models and at that price it's amazing. It also has bluetooth so it can be connected to an external speaker or headphones. The 1st gen Plus additionally has a usb c output so it can be outputted to a TV or larger monitor if desired. Not sure if the newer models also have the usb c out.

[@GIJha]

@@jeremyratter3634 too many similar devices coming in with very little regulatory requirements. Like cars have to meet a standard … the same principles should start being applied to electronics. If it doesn’t meet certain levels in capability then it shouldn’t be allowed to be manufactured in large scale. Or at its best should be a custom order. For the few who want it. At this price.

[@Dyaan14.1]

Why not just buy the 329 dollar ipad 9th gen with centre stage and just use it as a portal😂 Anything but facebook would do.🙌

[@jeremyratter3634]

Having Alexa integrated makes it a lot better than an Ipad for use as a voice controlled smart home device.

[@bl00dkillz]

Because ipad 9 are out of stock nearly everywhere at the moment? Unless you go for ipad mini 6 or ipad pro 2021 but thats already more than twice the price

[@caballerocanarias5183]

Why should I buy a Facebook device if I can do the same with my iPad, iPhone etc…..with FaceTime, WhatsApp Video or a normal Facebook Video call? In my eyes it’s a big fail, I would never buy it! But nice video dude 🤙🏾🤙🏾

[@GlitterGuru]

I don't know a single person who uses a Portal, let alone knows what it is.

[@lazyreuvin]

Oh sure, I'll spend $$$ to put microphones and a camera in my home via a device made by Facebook, one of the most "trusted" companies in the World when it comes to security and personal data...

[@bl00dkillz]

You can always unplug it from the wall

[@James-mr7lm]

You think apple, Samsung, google, KZbin and Amazon are any different ?

[@lazyreuvin]

@@James-mr7lm I never said they were... Everyone has a choice to choose which eco system they want to be a part of whether it be Google or Apple etc. The difference is you can live without Facebook but you're going to be tied to either Apple or Google either way because of your Smartphone unless you choose one of those rare 'other' options

[@jvcex]

thanx for review

[@FoodNPlacesSF]

Portal + has a better resolution AND sound quality than the new Amazon 15 inches according to my customer.

[@ageng.raditya]

OR, just using your phone

[@tld8102]

i’d call it a Telescreen in the context of facebook

[@jonathana.gimenez6032]

I want teleporter quantum Mark!

[@HiFiInsider]

I would buy if it was Apple not FB. It looks nice. I want a 14" iPad Pro.

[@alpha_ray_burst]

LOL Facebook is still trying to do smart home screens? Just give it up guys. You lost. Cut your losses. Or do a complete overhaul of your privacy policy, market it heavily, and bring a product with some REAL BENEFITS over the competition. Otherwise you're just wasting your money.

[@RobertKochan]

Facebook. Czas wysadzic w powietrze siedziby tego gówna w Europie. Amen.Amen Amen.

[@jacobwashington5712]

So you’ve created a device making it convenient for the people to video chat on so you can gather more information on how humans interact in order to expand and increase you’re artificial intelligence

[@kidzeus2433]

Mark Zuckerberg placed a tape on his portal camera

[@Gaurav-_-]

Even though the original older Portal Plus is 15 inch, it has 16:9 aspect ratio (a wider but less taller screen), 1920 × 1080 (2073600 pixels), 140 degree wide angle camera. The new one at first glance looks like a downgrade due to being one inch smaller at 14 inch but actually it's not because now it uses a grand 3:2 aspect ratio (much taller screen), resolution of 2160 × 1440 (3110400 pixels) - far more pixels overall and higher resolution video stream. Yes it's non-rotatable and has a 130 deg wide angle camera. Those are downgrades. Another concern is that the new one may not have a TV out via USB-C in which it would be a downgrade to the original Portal Plus.

[@teriyakibo2396]

350 bucks lol, you’d better buy a tablet for that price

[@Gravage]

No one is going to buy these. No one SHOULD be buying these. Nice try, Facebook.

[@miltonnazario21]

I agree as well 👍

[@Musafeer360]

If you want to get more spied as FB already do with your privacy.... Now they can see you in your homes in live. So go ahead and buy one!

[@danowulf]

Thought it would be more Oculus stuff :(

[@guysharon1060]

Who would in their right mind put a Facebook device with a camera and microphone in their home?!?!?!?!?!?

[@kint5ugee]

people who use whatsapp and facebook messenger/live are who would buy this. But it does too little to be worth buying. They could have at least included youtube.

[@adden2242]

deym, dats expensive!!

[@rijve11]

Now if face book gets in to ur home ur doomed!

[@michwashington]

I don’t think Facebook knows what they’re doing with Portal at all and they’re really late to the party!

[@Ham-sf4zl]

So it's this the new Facebook news mark was taking about??? I swear my phone can do all of this.

[@faresar]

Like i jumped in to youtube to find out why does this product even exist? Whats special? I am still in WTF mode

[@Ham-sf4zl]

@@HTC-1337it can connect to tv tho.

[@United_Kangaroo1992]

I see it as something for elderly people

[@Tldrx]

I wonder why they launch this outdated product now but not three years earlier

[@diatribeUS]

They did launch it three years ago, in 2018.

[@BlackWidowYT_FPS]

I don’t trust Facebook, better to buy iPad for $329 and you will get a full function tablet

[@jeremyratter3634]

Most people that would buy this already own a tablet or they are an older person who is not tech savvy who wouldn't use a tablet and wants something easy for video calls with family members.

[@monroe1262]

Good luck

[@derricmcleanmenezes1779]

Rather get a ipad or android tablet with a stand.

[@1Marasa]

Who is ordering facebook products 😅

[@SG-wz1hd]

Why would anyone buy these in the world of google and Alexa?

[@jamesick]

this guy is more annoying than Zuckerberg lmfao. chill with the arms my dude.

[@JudgeDredd_]

The Zuck man isn’t annoying to me. I just don’t care for his products so much or his business ethics.

[@RuudP]

Do you trust Facebook?

[@jamesxxxyz8775]

Do you trust google?

[@eugeneeng4037]

@@jamesxxxyz8775 no but at least they are open about it a

[@9823625313]

Why do All tech companies use Black people in their advertisements 🤔

[@JudgeDredd_]

To pass the quota for being inclusive.

[@mgratk]

For the same reason that all movies and tv shows now have to have a gender fluid unicorn and the lone straight white male is the bad guy or the idiot. It is woke racism.

[@jeremyratter3634]

Sounds like a selective observation. Most people in tech ads are white.

[@9823625313]

@@jeremyratter3634 it seems you are black

[@elbubulubu]

Word of advice for all of you. NEVER BUY ANYTHING WITH CAMERAS OR MICROPHONES IF ITS MADE BY OR IN ASSOCIATION WITH FACEBOOK.

[@icapturethelight1877]

Bifrost portal of 🌎

[@kamsable]

It has the F(acebook) word in the name? Pass!

[@re-fix9678]

👍👍

[@ToeStankin]

Glad I already deleted my account

[@ddw6523]

Nope, not buying it thanks

[@MenTaLLyMenTaL]

Biased AF against fb

[@emmanuel.v]

Lol people still use Facebook?

[@RodolphosTechchannel]

Why are Americans so obsessed with their privacy? Considering the USA is one of the countries with lowest privacy in the world…

[@epicstark990]

You just answered your own question smh….

[@diatribeUS]

@@epicstark990 I think you missed his point. He's questioning why people in the US focus on certain privacy issues and not others while accepting as normal all the other ways their privacy is routinely compromised.

[@raihanhanTek]

Don't buy

[@reddwarf3046]

It’s all junk. You can do everything on a laptop or on your smartphone.

[@KD-lb9bg]

Nope 👎🏻, Lol.

[@capturedbychance04]

Another Useless product

[@anandjoshua85]

First comment and view

[@Gravage]

First comment telling you no one cares.