Preworkouts - Is Caffeine Really Needed?

[@rafacnavarro]

One thing that I noticed and learned after 14 years lifting and many of them taking stimulants like PWO and Fatburners is that you've to work on your sensibility to stimulants, including caffeine. I used to drink A LOT of black coffee every single day along PWO/Fat-burners. So they basically had very little effect on me. I was always caffeinated. In other words, I became addicted. This way, I always had to take more and more (or take something stronger) to "feel it". And truth be told, most of the time I couldn't feel the stimulants at all. So my tip here is to cycle your stimulants. Do not take stimulants every single day (including caffeinated teas, black coffee, diet coke, etc.). Aim to have at least 1-2 days with ZERO STIMULANTS every week to clean your body and improve your sensibility - ideally 2-3 days on, 1 day off. I do also recommend you have 1 week completely off stimulants/caffeine every once in a while, like every 2-3 months. It will help a lot!

[@coolrockstar32]

This! So true. Your tolerance to caffeine is a big factor on the amount of affect you would notice

[@ditz3nfitness]

Definitely agree with everything said!

[@karnivore3708]

I usually drink v8 energy drinks (80mg caffeine each). I'll start with one being enough to get me through a day and after I start to need 3 to function the same I take 1-2 weeks off caffeine to reset my sensitivity.

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[@CaptainPIanet]

What I was in school I would start with 1 cup of coffee each day at the start of the semester. It would slowly grow to 1.5, 2, and then often 3 cups by the end of the semester during finals. However, I always made sure to "detox" during the respective winter and summer breaks. In part because I wanted to lower my tolerance, but mostly because making the much coffee is a pain. I recently tried to detox again but at this point I had been out of school for 2.5 years and the withdrawals were sooo much worse. I think you have a sensible outlook.

[@ChrisbeFoSerious]

I switched to non-stim preworkout over a year ago since I mainly workout past 4pm-I have high tolerance and would have to take high stim to really feel anything but it was ruining my sleep and sleep quality. Most of my insomnia related issues cleared up after the switch. My workouts were largely the same, but I could actually take the non-stim pre on an empty stomach in the morning and be totally fine. You don’t need caffeine for pumps, endurance, or focus.

[@VincyGamer]

can you share what nun stim pre you use I've been looking for a good one

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[@mr.winkie]

Pre-workout is about a positive pre-mood/mentality more than anything.

[@melsantiago1841]

It’s all about mindset 💯

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[@8lec_R]

This is interesting. So I don't really take caffeine cuz I care about my already very irregular sleep schedule. I find that not having any caffeine (so no tea or coffee either) at all increases my chances of being able to sleep for a full 9 hours. And when I sleep well, I can absolutely destroy all my PRs in a single day. I used to take some coffee on the days I was tired, it used to help, but I don't do that anymore. For me sleeping is my PED Edit: also when I haven't slept well, I'm always worried about injuring myself. Cuz that's when my muscles start creaking (not literally, they just feel rusty) and my joints hurt. Caffeine helps dull that pain, but it comes back worse the next day, so I prefer to play it safe and not get injured at all

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[@the.sundew]

By the way if anyone here has anxiety or depression, I highly recommend to stay away from anything with caffeine in it.

[@morio9284]

True! Also with bipolar, never consume coffein.

[@AJBuddha]

Exactly I take a small amount of caffeine I don’t need any extra caffeine it actually makes me tired when I have too much

[@rainulan7809]

No. I like the depression and anxiety.

[@Cenatcenat902]

The only time i feel like a extrovert and a social person is when i take a DMAA preworkout

[@Keepingupwiththedenbows]

me with anxiety and depression addictied to caffeine 😂 i may be on to something

[@justincollins2804]

Preworkout is my only source of caffeine. I find that it helps to give some extra “oomph” to each rep of any exercise I do. I’m a naturally passive person, I find it really hard to dig deep and push aggressively (in general, but also) in the gym. For a person like me, it’s a pretty big help. 😁

[@gustopher6500]

Won't that make you even worse at being able to push aggressively? Relying on preworkout surely won't make you any better at it.

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

@@gustopher6500 yh that's why i only use it when i abso need to

[@justincollins2804]

@@gustopher6500 I don't think so. It's often the case that people need help when doing something new. Training wheels on a bike, accountability on a diet, etc. I'm fully capable of giving submaximal efforts without caffeine for weights on exercises that are above and beyond what used to be maximal for me. In that way, caffeine acts as the first time learning that my body seems to need when reaching new heights via progressive overload. Beyond that though, and there's certainly room for placebo, I feel like I'm much more capable of rapidly generating force with caffeine. My personality is very chill and I'd say that turtles are my spirit animal. I struggle with speed oriented tasks, I once worked at a subway for ~6 months and I improved tremendously, yet I was still barely passable in terms of my speed. In the gym I have to take myself to a different psychological place in order to be effective and caffeine helps to facilitate that. But let's say that "relying of caffeine" is holding me back. What then? I trained for about 3.5 years without caffeine. I made some progress. I trained for the past year with caffeine and I probably made just as much progress in that one year as I did in the past 3.5 years. And sure, there are other things going into why I was able to make more progress (still 100% natty, it's not drugs), but the fact remains that it helped. It's legal, it's not seen as cheating, and it's literally the only caffeine I consume. If I suck without caffeine (I don't), that's fine. It just helps me to generate force and reach new heights via progressive overload. I'm not sure I see a downside.

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[@phxaz5506]

“This calves still ain’t growing “😂😂😭😭

[@wronglyright]

Ahhhh, caffeine, drinking it every single morning while listening to my favorite song

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[@Zhentarim]

You always do the ponderings/warnings that are going through my head about these surveys. Congratulations and keep up the good work

[@MoreUngaMoreBunga]

I take a cup of coffee before every workout, with it being the only caffeine I drink in a day. And then on rest days I go without caffeine at all. I’ve found that it gives me a slight performance boost and I don’t really build up a tolerance.

[@Rustcat666]

Really good. Not drinking too much so you don't get addicted but using to boost performance. Very smart 💪

[@jtk2218]

I used to use preworkout everyday before all my workouts, I quit because for me it just stopped working like it used. My tolerance became too high

[@markboggs746]

Swap to a different one every now and again and take a complete break for a month or two when that does not work...

[@TeemoForLife]

Only workout twice a week. So can use ez. And I don't drinkncoffee / take 300mg+. 200-220mg

[@ditz3nfitness]

"I used to use preworkout everyday before all my workouts" "My tolerance became too high" Yeap, that's what happens

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[@coolrockstar32]

I started having black coffee before my workouts because I read somewhere in detail that it helps tapping into your fats for energy. But now I am so used to it, I have to have it in the morning cuz I workout on an empty stomach and I feel sleepy in the morning lol

[@brxndxnr5377]

Do you take any vitamins when you wake up?

[@coolrockstar32]

@@brxndxnr5377 I do take vitamin D in the morning

[@stevePDx]

Yeah that's black coffee with an intermittent fast that helps tap into fat reserves for energy faster (all glycogen deplete). If you had a recent meal, or there's enough blood sugar to use as energy, your body will rarely use fat metabolism - regardless of supplements. (I'm a biomedical researcher).

[@coolrockstar32]

@@stevePDx The way I eat, it's intermittent fasting not even by choice. The 8-16 cycle of intermittent fasting, which is good because that's how my eating schedule is by default. Now I wake up and get black coffee and workout on an empty stomach, would that truly help me tap into my fat storage for fuel? I don't even feel hungry when I wake up, or have any issues with energy while working out

[@stevePDx]

@@coolrockstar32 yeah that would be perfect for staying lean and weight loss. If you're trying to gain weight and build mass, this won't be ideal. I think as we get older, staying lean and healthier outweighs being "big". But each to their own.

[@dukebruhke]

Gonna listen to this as a Podcast during my workout! Let‘s go!

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[@krypticz3364]

Black coffee is where it’s at for me. It helps me stay wide awake when I workout in the mornings! I’ve gotten used to the taste of black coffee, I find it delicious now

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[@Legsofademon]

Idk what you’re talking about. My calves are HUGE! And for your information are still GROWING!!!

[@ScalarYoutube]

I never have and never will take pre workout. It's simply not worth the hassle for me. I have seen consistent results in the past year since I started and I am happy with my rate of progress entirely natural

[@Myron1010]

How much caffeine do I need? Me: yes.

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[@tylerramos7633]

I’ve never done PWO before and came across this video while doing research on PWO because I want to try it but Im very cautious about what supplements I use and honestly this video has convinced me the benefits from PWO are simply not worth the cost of the supplement. Thank you for the clear unbiased data it has been very helpful!

[@vtyt9685]

Bro U literally made this video at the most perfect time, I was just thing about buying some

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[@Psychotic_Otthar]

nice to see you make a new video finally

[@KinnikuNINJA]

The moment I realised I was having too much coffee day to day was when my work out buddy and I shared some pre-workout. He was absolutely off his face and running wild yet I didn't feel a thing. At the time I was having 8 cups of coffee a day and he was having only 1. My sleep quality has improved sooo much since I cut down to 2 cups a day, with none after 12pm and I generally feel better all round. Scary, really!

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[@MuhammadSohail-ln9dj]

Ayyy picturefit uploaded Let's go! Really appreciate all your effort and time you put into your channel PF. Honestly have helped beginners like me so much and I've truly learned a great amount valuable and useful info. I'm sure I say this on behalf of the community Thank you!

[@Mekias]

I pretty much only use pre-workouts/caffeine to get me out of my recliner. Have no idea if they help with performance while training but at least I'm not still watching tv.

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[@bjorn6956]

Mr picture fat could you maybe make a video about ashwagandha. I'm hearing a lot about it lately 🤔.

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[@Nerfherder117]

This does settle that I’m gonna mix none caffeinated pre workout work days with caffeinated ones, if the difference is small anyway I might as well work on lowering my caffeine tolerance. It also would make both supplements last longer.

[@doordashh]

im literally drinking my preworkout coffee RN.... then this video popped up... lol

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[@martingamer5591]

Stimulants are overrated for preworkout. A mix of L-Citrulline, Beta Alanine and a vasodilator works well enough for me.

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[@joshuadoidge237]

Took pre workout for the first time couple of days ago and repped out my bench and deadlift pr

[@travisraff]

One thing to consider: the effect of caffeine on your motivation to go to the gym.

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[@abhayrohit]

i still regret buying a no caf non-stim pre which had double of everything my normal pre would, double taurine beta-alanine etc, but it was as useless as a gym without weights

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[@loganwolv3393]

Honestly for me caffeine does help out a lot, i can't quite tell if it makes me stronger or not but it sure does make it way easier to train closer to failure, even if it dosen't improve my max theoretical reps for any given exercise.

[@ditz3nfitness]

I’ve been a HEAVY fan of “pump + focus” products for late night sessions at the gym! Alpha GPC, Citrulline combined with Nitrosigine, Beta-Alanine, etc. they’ve seemed to give me some sort of energy boost/mood elevation, even without the caffeine. So it’s definitely possible to make some sort of focus/pre-workout supplement without the needed caffeine, even though that’s usually the main driver of a pre-workout product.

[@jacobpro_]

Any recommendations?

[@scottyg5403]

Favorite product?

[@ditz3nfitness]

@@jacobpro_ Been a huge fan of Naughty Boy, which is a UK brand. I live in Denmark, so I don't shop them quite often, but when I do, their Sick Pump Synergy is amazing! :) Taste is top notch too!

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[@Sanji1337]

Pre workout the caffeine isnt the main ingredient in my opinion(yes there is increased heart rate Etc). The caffeine is only for increased concentration for the brain. As a powerlifter, this does correlate to my lifts, as When visualising the pre lift when I have a higher level of concentration I am more likely to perform better. But not conclusive point, just personal experience. Things like Beta alanine, other amino ingredients will factor the real “physiological changes” decreasing muscle fatigue.

[@Gurben92]

I think pre-workouts or caffeïne are more usefull to driving you to your maximum effort when you wouldnt be able to due to poor sleep or mood. In studies knowing you participate you wont see participants giving half because they are tired, at least i think. That is why there isnt hard scientific benefits.. but the tiredness caffeine can overcome tho..

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[@irishbears2103]

Preworkout supplements are designed for focus, and energy, which is the real benefit, especially if your workout is going to last an hour, or more. There's not a supplement on the planet that's going to help increase strength, not even steroids. Strength comes from being consistent on progressive overload over time. With that, I think I'll keep my high stim preworkouts.

[@nolesy34]

Is there a level of stim you can't control.. For example your shaking and therefore concentrating on say.... Loading a barbell is ..interesting?

[@atlsplaza-nd]

Never had the need for a pre workout

[@nolesy34]

I feel that your in a good position in that if you ever have a workout with a cup of coffee that alone is a stim enough

[@lorenzop.8249]

double espresso babyyyy

[@seaofseeof]

Woops. Yep, I cycle off caffeine when I intend to use a new preworkout. So, I'm not exactly sure how relevant this is for me. I wasn't ever sold that it would make a direct improvement to my performance, though. But, it may have an indirect benefit by helping with focus, which is a huge issue for me. Improved focus has also improved my form and mind muscle connection.

[@Knukles2011]

Another thing that came to mine was that non caffeine pre workouts usually contain ingredients like beta-alanine that work only with chronic use.

[@Latinblood59]

I only use the caffeine on days that I’m tired. I noticed if I’m tired, I can’t seem to focus during the workout. And like you said, caffeine helps with that!

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[@hanskazan7403]

Just take a nap when tired no need to take drugs for energy

[@darksmiley5081]

I drink green tea before working out, have been doing so for multiple years because I read it helps to burn fat. Don't know if that actually worked/works for me, I am pretty sure my tolerance is way too high by now to have any effect, but it's the one trigger I have for the habit of working out. It's what made me work out in the first place back then when I started, so now it is the signal I have for it

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[@hanskazan7403]

Green Thea doesn't burn fat 😂😂😂 lolll some people...

[@benbrenizer7712]

I feel so much better only using caffeine on occasion. It actually gives me a mood boost then and I only need a little which in return gives less if any negative effects.

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[@amacmc6093]

I use it rarely when really needed

[@perseusgeorgiadis7821]

I've always been lifting heavier on caffeine, but usually when I go for PR's I take really high amounts of caffeine (upwards of 0.5g) because I naturally have a really high caffeine tolerance

[@samulebeb]

When 500mg is the minimal amount you need to feel anything

[@perseusgeorgiadis7821]

@@samulebeb Depends on the person. I know people whose entire body shakes on 100+mg. Then there are people like myself who need higher doses to feel the effects, but that's not the norm. It is actually advised that a person not surpass 400mg in a day (meaning that that 400mg is spread out, not ingested in a single dose)

[@woodsy.2977]

My friend you are going to live a very short life

[@perseusgeorgiadis7821]

@@woodsy.2977 I'm 17. My body can handle pretty much anything that wouldn't make a horse drop dead within 30 minutes of ingestion

[@cherubin7th]

Nice, I can sell water as PWO and say a study says it is just as good as the other PWOs.

[@adambellesheim5706]

I wake up and drink 16oz of water with just a pinch of sea salt, hit the gym then have a half-caffeinated coffee. This has been working great for me for the past 2 years. If I drink coffee before the workout, not only do I have to go #2, but it makes me jittery during the workout.

[@migii820]

So I don’t drink coffee regularly. I just have a black expresso as my preworkout and I just feel it gets me more pumped and gets me going longer. Not necessarily lifting heavier

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[@bigstupidgrin]

Man I gotta try that Placebo. It's just as good as so many other products!

[@ipertatos2263]

I love how picturefit is always so unbiased

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[@kvp.2545]

How??

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@@kvp.2545 shit sorry bro I meant to say unbiased

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@@ipertatos2263 gotcha lol was like damn I liked the vid

[@yurielcundangan9090]

Every single one of ya'll agrees that PAPER really made our day:

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[@derekdouglas5773]

You should make a video on nmn. Just saw a short clip on it and it seems pretty interesting.

[@Sternenpups]

Are there any studies on how sugar after workouts impact recovery and muscle growth?

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[@briansotobassist]

Caffeine is really the magic drug fot people who don't have complications.

[@Hypocrisy.Allergic]

Non caffeine pre workout is the best. You still get the good tasting beverage before workout without burning your adrenals.

[@mralbinosloth9030]

Yes

[@UnitedHornet]

I would never use caffeine before and just consumed carbs before I did my workout, it was ok but I was low energy when I was in a deficit. Now It's just a boost from time to time and I do notice I can workout faster but most of the time just rely on eating before. Not sure if it's a placebo of carbs or not but it works for me lol.

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[@brocktherockshop6549]

I watch your channel as much as I can but this is the first time I find myself disagreeing with the study that you put on your channel so much factors go into this

[@sirador0]

Can you do a video on the physics of team deadlifts?

[@onslaught213]

I have not taken pre work my last two workouts and have hit same volume/ reps that I would when taking it. Not to say I’ll stop taking it but maybe I just built a tolerance for it.

[@reallyeffingcooltechnodude]

Eric Trexler has written a great article called The Lifter's Guide To Caffeine. Everyone interested in this topic should read it.

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[@stuntmonkey00]

Coffee before my workout is an effective pre-workout because it restores my will to live and tolerate the bleak existence that is modern society.

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[@Hunderteam50]

I only use pre with caféine when I just need some bit of boost after a long day or the morning before going to gym when I need a bit litle boost to wake up

[@jakedragon8753]

Due to caffeine tolerance prefer taking preworkout on last hardest week (RPE 10) of a cycle or simply when you are on a fat loss phase since already feel more tired and weaker cuz low calories

[@TigerTzu]

Caffeine only seems to help my training if I'm low on sleep or food.

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[@Xoberies]

I feel like 24 people is far fewer than necessary for any study, let alone with so many variables as fitness when your performance varies from day to day.

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[@GamerKiwi]

My preworkout is literally just a caffeine pill, some sports drink, and a light, carby and protein rich breakfast lmao

[@terrancekayton007]

I bet Music plays a more significant role in pushing oneself to the extremes more so than caffeine. I think we’ve all be programmed to think that stuff really works. Everything that has caffeine in it is, gross or “an acquired taste” rather. People like that jittery feeling I’m hopped up on something feeling, I guess. I have some can’t say it “worked” but did give me the bubble guts . 😢

[@JamesPetroff]

I used to pop Vivarin tablets pre-workout. And blast Judas Priest at high decibel while watching college football during my workout in my basement. I was so hyped that I got up to squatting 500 lbs, shoulder pressing 200 lbs. You probably could have drank two pots of coffee, but the little yellow tablets were easy. Caffeine at higher amounts definitely allow you to get psyched and grind out that brutal last rep.

[@kronaperthro]

Chug coffee, blast Amon Amarth and watch DBZ like a real man you little girl!

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[@user-hn5er7jz6u]

Of course it won't give you power, strength or extra endurance. Instead it will fill you with focus and will, so you can visualize your muscles better and get rid of any distractions.

[@nolesy34]

It's s jolt of energy

[@Muytien]

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[@bluepurplepink]

Basically do it for the feeling rather than treating it as an actually useful pre workout or supplement like creatine. If you like it, great. But its not necessary or very helpful

[@ArturD2]

Nice breakdown of nuance. By understanding this, like some others mentioned, I switched to only dose on it before and on the days I lift to control tolerance/sensitivity as much as I can, and specifically for the focus increase to have a mindful performance. Yet again, I may be able to replicate it with just music (and avoid listening to crappy gym playlists 😂).

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[@danieldigital9333]

I'm not really a coffee type of person. I kinda hate the feeling + I don't want to affect my sleep in any way. Do you have any "natural" way to improve my perfomances ? I train for hypertrophy

[@morio9284]

Green vegetables juice. Lot of!

[@samulebeb]

Well what do you mean by performance? Because caffeine certainly does increase my strength but otherwise I like to take salt, cacao and raw garlic because it gives incredible pumps and I feel like it also gives me way more work capacity.

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[@gad3iii532]

I used preworkout for about a year thinking it was doing something, then I decided to stop and make my own with 15g EAA's, 10g Creatine and 600mg caffeine, I feel better , save money and get more protein now! Based on my experience preworkout's really don't do anything.

[@zayne6800]

600mg? sheesh, your poor heart

[@gad3iii532]

@@zayne6800 I don't really feel it, except, when I don't take it : )

[@user-ve9tu5rv6e]

@@zayne6800 oh well at least it’s not our bodies lmao

[@leddyvilla]

The mind is the strongest preworkout

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[@arthurg.machado6803]

Pré workout stimulants are not meant to increase strength, that's not surprising that it was not perceived. It's about making you feel better to workout harder or longer, or make you want to workout

[@ricebomb428]

What is “must have” ingredients in a pwo in your opinion? And what dosage of each ingredients? Struggle to find articles or blogs who doesn’t seem to biased on promoting some brands. Kinda difficult to find the best options.

[@dsandwich12]

350mg of caffeine is so much for people who are already drinking caffeine, holy. I stopped drinking caffeine over a year ago and feel like I really don't need it at all and have two kids under two. I sure am saving a lot of money as well lol.

[@dieselx506]

'Best used before by Y2K' LMFAO that's prolly the last canister of Jack3d LOL

[@JuniorPolancoConcepcion]

Damn, Jeff Nippard... I really felt that "calves ain't growing" comment.

[@balkee42]

Drank my pre moments ago. Now im laying on bench press falling asleep.

[@MostKnownUnKnown91]

It depends..

[@DarthxLuna]

Can you do a video on fat burners?

[@APlatapus]

I missed you picturefit

[@YanZeLifting]

Yeah caffeine can give you the ability to stay focused in the gym but personally I choose not to be reliant on any substances 🤷‍♂️

[@st.michaelsknight6299]

That frankly sounds like a badly done study. Small sample size, and blinding the researchers like that denied them the data of tracking over multiple days

[@TheGamerITA1]

A study on 24 people is just too small to be in any way useful, let alone conclusive.

[@zapx420]

can i use a caffeine free pwo that just gets me a better pump as a 13 year old?

[@AJBuddha]

What is the most energizing caffeine-free preworkout?

[@nolesy34]

Possibly; a green tea Herbs .. (but ones like Yerba freind) Chilli (helps speed metabolism) Glass of fruit juice Vitamin c Beta alanine Citruline (Last two will help that pump)

[@beangate]

Yeah I feel like this study is kind of looking at the wrong stuff... Caffeine for me at least helps in the later stages of the workout where i may feel too tired to get extra work in. I personally only use pre-workout when i am struggling to get in the gym, kind of locking myself into a sunken cost fallacy "well i spent a preworkout serving, I HAVE to work out now!"

[@gustopher6500]

Exactly, I feel the same way about caffeine and it makes sense with how caffeine works, caffeine prevents you from getting tired, doesn't necessarily give you more energy.

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[@Keon994]

I find caffeine helps me get through workouts by making me feel more energetic. I don't take it for any raw performance enhancing benefits. If anything I could probably lift more by quitting caffeine because I would be more able to concentrate. Caffeine makes me a tiny bit scatterbrained.

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[@Durio_zibethinus]

In my case, you know...., it depends 🙈

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[@stardust6004]

So less caffeine, more DMAA. Got it 👍🤭

[@Henrique.Souza0601]

Dude, I'm no scientist but I know at least two things: 1) too little participants in this study to conclude absolutely anything; 2) I workout in the morning and just can't do it without caffeine. Sometimes I'm wide awake to the point I forget to take the caffeine and when I start to feel all the weights way heavier than usual, I suddenly remember it. The loss of strength is up to 20% sometimes when this happens. So, idk if it's for everybody, but for me, someone who doesn't even drink coffee, my morning caffeine pill is absolutely necessary to have a decent workout.

[@Fisnick.]

But what’s in the placebo?

[@1time.1]

If you take too much caffeine it makes all the positives as negatives. 350mg is too much if you never take pwo. You should start with 75-100mg and work your way up.

[@GearsOfCake]

the less caffeine I consume, the better my workouts and faster my recovery between sets

[@justified2065]

I believe that drinking coffee obsessivelly every day is bad but once in a while for a change is actually great.

[@ricardotemporalgrein4482]

Can someone recommend other PreWorkouts that stimulates a little bit like caffeine but without it? Because coffe it's been really REALLY impacting my sleep severely. I got off coffe for 2 weeks and MY DREAMS started coming back, and when i'm drinking daily it doesn't happen. It's kinda weird, it's like coffe disconnects us from our intuition (Or just me, because I might be a slower caffeine metabolizer - which sucks because I love coffe)... Anyway, anyone can PLEASE recommmend anything that I should try as a preworkout that it's not coffe and it doesn't have caffeine like green tea/black tea... I need something else...

[@Dilly_Dil1y]

Just pop caffeine powder or pill into a protein drink. Boom . Caffeinated protein drink