PRIMAL RC CHALLENGER Speed Run Crash

[@KevinTalbotTV]

ooo that crash was painful!

[@lashwa086]

Hi Kevin! 😂🎉

[@scaleworksRC]

What happened?! 😂

[@scaleworksRC]

@@Ben13507 You already know he's gonna full send it 50 ft in the air or something😂

[@Wyattbmarksman]

Tumble wumble - A very smart man

[@Ben13507]

Kevin you should get it!

[@Miguel.herrera.71]

PrimalRC never really got it right with their dragster… the Raminator is a work in progress and now this looks like history repeats. But it looks great. Too fragile for me. Great video

[@DevonRegan]

Agree, doesn’t feel like they properly tested this at all

[@WewuzKangz85]

Car is def not worth that price

[@garywynegarsvikingrc843]

I had a blast bro thank you for the opportunity.

[@truerc]

Good stuff👍Also nice to see a company not being dishonest about scale

[@jessejames2546]

Those tires handle like it’s riding on pvc plastic

[@PatrickFugate-qk7ev]

I think it’s going to be a shelf queen..😂😂😂😂😂

[@meirdeaph]

I know that things gonna be super killer when you get it all dialed in! Its awesome an only gonna get better 💯🏁👍❤🔧

[@RC-Analysis]

Man, i'm sure you already understand that this car dinamic is a bulls... It does not run strait, everytime you touch the steering it unbalance the chassi. Put the car in bench, increase the rear wheels toe for 4° and in front open the steering 2° or 3°. This will help a little. But it will not fix a bad chassi. The car is pretty, ok, but very bad dinamic.

[@ExocagedRC]

We will get all that tuned in. I'm not sure if the rear toe can be adjusted on it.

[@5280Recreation]

Yea was going to say it for sure needs rear toe at a minimum. The driver kept having to counter steer…not good.

[@TRAVELER197]

I love it! I am kinda worried about going that fast without a 4-wheel drive setup! I am here for it! 73 is awesome!

[@AllInRc1971]

Nothing more thrilling in rc than speed running. 73 mph is AWESOME!

[@allmightygreat1892]

Have you tried spray the metal parts with remington dry lube

[@LassoKid7777]

When I was a kid speed running was what it was all about even from a toy RC standpoint it was all about the straight line speed

[@KBC-69420]

That's insane!! Keep it coming!

[@TheDudeRc]

Was watching your live stream last night and then saw your friends channel with the run. I winced when it wrecked. Awesome car!

[@andyb9994]

I think the servo, the tires and the road all played a part in the crash!! Can't wait to see round 2......💯

[@JOHNNAYMACK]

Hey ! Great video . I recently got one of the little hand held blowers from bang good (or ali ) and it works better than i expected to blow off the rcs . Next best thing to having an air compressor on hand . I think you would put one to good use and it would help with not only the dirt and sand , but the unexpected ( or expected ) puddle and water .

[@alankowalski8781]

I’ve been waiting all day to watch this. Can’t watch while I work.

[@old-rcplane-phart]

1 thing u may wanna setup on it is the ABS. Especially on 8s-12s! WILL make a monster difference in NOT spinning out stopping!

[@old-rcplane-phart]

Most tx's of today has the electronic abs! You'll need to configure the cycles so it won't spin out. ALSO, 'thr acc' or 'thr start'. Limits ramp up on the esc.

[@ExocagedRC]

Even with disk brakes?

[@scaleworksRC]

Wow.. snapped both lower arms 😳 I think this car has potential to be better, but it ain't cheap! 👍

[@YungStun]

I’m on edge 😱 beautiful rig right there. And yes I would definitely out and audio system like me Granite, Kraton and Typhon 3S .,

[@paintendaveextremecollisio8057]

Nice man, thanks for posting this👍

[@poorboysrc]

I love the look of these cars, and the parts are beautiful. But it just seems like they're prone to breaking and not very easy to drive. Good job getting her ripping to 73!

[@MikeGray-ct6hb]

That huge body shell makes the GNSS look like the size of a receiver lol. I have a 2wd slash that I've had up to 119 so i know how unstable 2wd cars can get over about 60 so I would suggest turning the steering dual rate WAY down and don't touch the steering over that 60mph mark. If u have to correct the trajectory, let off the throttle and steer slowly. Get it going straight, hammer down and stay out the way lol. Good luck on hitting 100, I would love to see video it!

[@ExocagedRC]

We will get there, but first I need new parts and a better more accurate servo

[@EJ-74]

Imo it has a lot to desire far as set up parts and durability. I’m sure it will get sorted out though.. Dang thang looks awesome if nothing else lol

[@YungStun]

You broke it already!!!😡… I just saw it😭😭😭

[@zeroshelfqueens]

I could feel the cringe coming through the screen when Viking decided prewash in the puddle. lol. Joe, do yourself a favor and do your own stunts 😂

[@ExocagedRC]

LOL yeah

[@h3llfir3rc]

put it on a clamp and make your own jig with a dual cam slider. This is essentially an RC alignment rack set up. Soften up the front suspension spring pre-load, this will give you better control as the load shifts to the rear axle more and more. Primal needs outside input on some design modifications to the suspension bracing, and steering rack (to mitigate all that steering slop).

[@todddooley793]

Holy crap that thing is a unit!!😮

[@nathanvinosky4550]

That thing is awesome. I ended up ordering 2 the gas and electric can't wait

[@ExocagedRC]

No way!!! Man before you do a burnout cover those rear tires!!!! That wasa HUGE mess for me

[@subzerolives]

Guys if you watch the video carefully you'll see that the car DID NOT CATCH AIR, the entire run he was struggling to keep it going straight. In slow motion you can see the slight pull to the right and then the correction left which cause the car to simply flip. With a vehicle so heavy that should never happen ,tells me the suspension setup needs a lot of tuning, 2WD is always going to be a problem for speed runs anyway @exocage rc A absolutely beautiful RC but you need to spend some time tuning out the bugs for example braking causes spin outs. I had this problem on my FG (hydraulic brakes) and brake Exponential was the key , disable braking on the motor.

[@memphysmoto2649]

Car looks great, but it seems very fragile, I don’t believe the crash was that bad, it was quite a damaged plus the body came off 😮

[@ExocagedRC]

The front arms, the way they have the links gave up a bit too easy but the rest is perfectly fine.

[@memphysmoto2649]

@@ExocagedRC don’t get me wrong, the car look 👀 great, I guess like every new vehicle, you will find little things as you go, hopefully you can get it back on the road quickly 👍

[@darrinwoodward14]

It needs a bigger rear wing.i have an old associated tc3 nitro 2 speed,4wd.with no rear wing,I can't even get it into 2nd gear without it spinning out.added the bigger rear wing,and the car goes straight as am arrow, and can get it topped out in 2nd gear. I run a lot of steering expo and it helps also. Dx6 rugged transmitter, no gyro, I never use them.

[@ExocagedRC]

I think a wing and some weight in that open space in front of the batteries would help

[@CK4RC]

That hood with the shaker scoop was a great choice!

[@GoranG-v9r]

The darting left and right is more than likely a wheel alignment issue than a servo issue, (if you're set on replacing the servo get a Perfect Pass 110kg servo, top shelf stuff).. the car needs toe-in for high speed stability.. Just my observable opinion..! Also try to make a motor-end support, as its only held on by a couple of screws at the pinion end...

[@rc-daily]

Looks like the rear is set up very close to the front. I wonder if it's toed in or out just a little bit and that's why it's hard to make it go straight.

[@alankowalski8781]

I’m excited for any big RC, but I didn’t like the design of this since the second Primal released that they were doing this. How you design something like that without a plan for big lipos, , a Max 4 or even the new Mad Max esc?

[@ExocagedRC]

Lots of room on the sides with a MAX 4 sitting in the battery compartment.

[@jubz25146]

I burnt and completely locked my hobbywing 800kv 56118 motor in a 1/5 scale 2wd buggy (custom hormann ht3). Was running on 12s and on grass. Absolutely gutted about it. Make sure you have adequate cooling for that motor! Im going to go with a 650kv, hopefully that one lasts.

[@mtctookie25]

One Luv!

[@AUKUSRC]

Lunch time Garry 😂😂 bro congrats on your two world records

[@ExocagedRC]

LOL He earned them!!

[@mitchellminer4596]

Nice awesome car! 👊👍👍

[@AndrewSury]

Gary, not too bad. You remind me a little of me. I won't pin it until it passes me. Love my ankles too much.

[@ExocagedRC]

Truth!! you could hear it wind up a bit and then broke loose

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Looks pretty rough to my eye, but hoping they get it sorted. The world needs more 2WD RC. But, as we see here, there is some engineering to be done to make it drive well.

[@mosrcz]

That’s a beast

[@markcole6475]

That thing is bad ass , but looks rather twitchy when at speed……maybe the sloppy servo? Maybe turn down the steering rate? Idk…but has potential!😊

[@KaniZRC]

Cool car indeed! If you guys like challenger car consider getting kyosho fazer mk2 challenger 1/10 scale much cheaper with painted body.

[@CANNINGRC]

New world record for the primal 🎉🎉

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

It sounds like it’s got a Hellcat supercharger with quiet cop exhaust on it 😁

[@jakegorman7121]

To help with the front end wondering I would tow the front wheels in a little bit

[@2112inuyasha]

you should try the XT150 battery connectors, so you don't have to have a series connector. all have to do is take the positive end on one battery and plug it into the negative end on the other, and the same with the ESC.

[@ExocagedRC]

So far the XT90's are ok, they even survived the burnout. You only got about half of what I actually did on that.

[@blindj]

I'm surprised more expo was an added and it seemed like it was drifting left repeatedly.

[@ExocagedRC]

It was all over the place, left and right he tried his best to hold it straight

[@allmightygreat1892]

Try remington dry lube on metal parts prevent rust

[@CM-ig2pf]

👍😁😎✌️

[@old-rcplane-phart]

👍😁

[@m.p1976]

Its not bad for this big Car😊

[@archerash6695]

I wonder if your suppose to toe in for race cars.. 🤷‍♂️ To bad about the servo, that ruins everything. I honestly don't think I would even bother until the new servo is in. No way, not with that car.

[@ExocagedRC]

new parts and a new servo will be done, lowering it down, moving some weight around and adjusting these brakes for sure they were not helping at all lol

[@DevonRegan]

Is there no stability control? This chassis seems not completely thought through. The handling seems really rough

[@ohnoadventures]

👍👍😃

[@CM-ig2pf]

Good to see your phone is working today 👍😁

[@ohnoadventures]

@CM-ig2pf for now it is

[@rc4lifebnsf]

Get them ViTaVoN parts ordered!

[@chrisoconnor3119]

And that is what we all figured would happen....dang.

[@alans4281]

It’s been twenty plus years since I ran anything even close to that. Back in the day the 1/5 FG cars would take a few minutes to warm the tires. I don’t know if that was part of the issue or if modern tires don’t need time before they are at their best ? . I don’t think a servo for the brakes is necessary for driving a speed run.? Something else is wrong with the steering other than a servo not holding true in my opinion.

[@ExocagedRC]

The horn shifts on the splines, we check it out off camera

[@Otiesh]

Nice car but needs some tuning for stability, as I can see it is not stable when turning. Besides that, the body is just awesome it is a huge car I wish it was a four wheel drive.

[@jubz25146]

Get yourself a 1/5 scale fg/mcd onroad car. They've got all the bling and way more body options and are race proven platforms

[@ExocagedRC]

I'll check into those, granted I don't need another monster but I'll check them out

[@allmightygreat1892]

Will the hobby shop have parts. Arrama has parts.

[@ExocagedRC]

Hopefully Primal has them, I'm not sure who all carries their stuff

[@loum7008]

Real line lock is awesome! This is real racing money though. 315 30 18 Hoosier R7s are $530. a pop. This is more than a set of race tires.

[@ExocagedRC]

oh yeah but just think, no one was hurt in that crash, well my wallet took about a $40 loss LOL

[@loum7008]

There's that!!! Thanks for the awesome videos​ @ExocagedRC

[@Chris_Love]

Ooof, that looked expensive

[@jessjoshwyatt3571]

Maybe the heavier batteries will help it stick more than the light 3300s

[@donniemarks94]

Don’t let that guy drive any of your rc’s lol

[@tbnice9999]

Things like this happen. No need to be upset with the driver, it wasn't stable, this is the testing part. It will reach 100 mph. Give him another chance!

[@derrickreed4159]

I wish i could say it's just a 3000 dollar car if i ever get one i probably won't drive it lol i don't make enough to replace something like that but it's so beautiful 😢

[@konfyoused]

Time to scan those arms and print some out of glass reenforced nylon ;-)

[@jameskoutoujian9505]

Your welcome babe see you soon!

[@allyoucando8486]

Next time, put the shocks more stiff to make the car more stable. The more rigid, the more stable

[@shawndoyle9505]

how about a gyro ?

[@robertshelton2605]

Look into a Perfect Pass Monster XL servo.

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

You’d think for that money it’d have the best servos ever in it

[@deadeyedetailing1057]

Tried to like it but simply cant, it doesnt handle, you have to start grimdimg bits away and moving parts just to get decent electronics in it, the servi it comes with is poor, really does feel like a rush job to get it out. Great idea, poor exicution, im sure it will have its market though! Good videos though!

[@chinonaz]

Hopefully it's just the servo and not the mechanical thats keeping it from going straight. If possible add as much caster as you can and lock up the front diff to stabilize it

[@dirtrider88]

its rwd

[@jonjacob1962]

Lol. With as expensive as I'm sure this thing is. One would THINK it would have a much nicer servo and maybe wouldn't break on the first small crash...

[@TroyThibodeaux-n6f]

Should have pulled the plug on speed run as soon as you couldn’t adjust servo correctly. JMO. Would have saved money and heart ache 😂

[@rcpete7055]

That's why I don't let friends drive my New RC'S 😂😢 Because there a friend they think they can abuse it😧 THAT'S AN AWESOME RIG😎😎

[@ExocagedRC]

oh man no, crashes are to be expected when doing this.

[@jhawk1985]

I have a custom Traxxas 4 tec 3.0 Corvette with Vitavon chassis and all the best parts you can buy. Everytime I speed run that thing I wreck it. Last time was a doosey. Mashed up the carbon and that nice body. Chunked my foam tires. Its been sitting a while 😂

[@Improvise_Adapt_0vercome]

Welp... That's the last you'll see of Gary! Lol No, not the water.. You broke it! $3,000 dollar r.c!!! 🤣😂🤣

[@Wanted1069]

Put that car on the ISXR and set up the ABS.

[@ExocagedRC]

I've never had ABS work on anything, but then again this is a very different monster than what I've had before

[@Wanted1069]

@@ExocagedRC Take the time and dial it in. It works..

[@AlbertPerry-f9h]

You got to let that man have a chance at redemption

[@JasonGunn418]

2300.00 and the servo is junk? Nope a Red one was doing a drag run and turned in the same direction as your's did caught air and flipped over, and the body came off, just like yours. I said this in your last video, it is too high off the ground and it will catch air. The body needs more reinforcement. Both broke, wow they should have been made with aluminum or carbon fiber, being it cost over 2300 bucks. This like the X01 spins out at higher speeds. I just don't see 100 MPH. In a huge 4000 foot parking lot, with no obstruction or cars, probably. Primal RC seems to sell these monsters and after testing their are lots of mods people do to them, and for the cost they should not have to. Out the box Arrma road cars do 80+ with the speed pinion. They are adjustable and they will do 100+ with a 31 or 32 pinion on the gears they came with, to include the tires. In less than a month it will be back on the shelf, because their will be no replacement parts to be had. No one is going to be building aftermarket parts for this shelf queen. I would design some 3D parts to fill in the bottom of the car, and add some weight to the front. Carbon fiber looks good but it's useless in RC speedrunners. if the batteries can be moved forward, your going to continue to catch air and flip or keep spinning out, just like the Failed X01 does.

[@ExocagedRC]

Buddy sit back and relax, we already have plans to adjust the weight bias and get it lower, its litterally right out of the box on this, how fast did the other guy go before his did this? These things will get to 100 and I'm working on getting us smaller spur gears.

[@JasonGunn418]

@@ExocagedRC Sir, the point I was making it's really not a speedrun car. Nothing close to Arrma road cars. It's just too big. You are forced to do 12S just to get over 100 MPH. But I get it, and it's ok. I would have done all those above adjustments before I attempted to do any speedrun. But you did not. If you notice in the burnout video, I already predicted the outcome of your speedrun. Because I do them a lot. Moreover I will continue to watch your progress. I think you just rushed it a bit.

[@mistere6212]

The evil in his eyes when he said speed run 😈

[@allmightygreat1892]

Power lines mess with my old eflite heli.

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah supposedly this is a popular speed run spot around here

[@deadeyedetailing1057]

Tbf some mess with my arrmas too, and my boats

[@allmightygreat1892]

@@deadeyedetailing1057 thank you

[@allmightygreat1892]

@@deadeyedetailing1057 thought it was just an air thing non surface.

[@xashxnicolex]

You should probably get better tires my guy

[@stephenr6427]

That thing is to delicate it didn't even crash bad and it snapped the arms

[@MatthewJorgensen1968]

73Mph on a 5th scale is fast...

[@ExocagedRC]

Well buddy, these will be breaking 100 soon.

[@dirtrider88]

noooo quite the opposite. 73 is fast for a 1/16 or 1/18 scale

[@hobbytechtv7007]

Need foams for better traction

[@danieltrilopez]

Beautiful car but looks fragile, improving steering can go faster

[@williamsolomon602]

R U SURE THIS IS NOT A SHELF QUEEN…

[@williamsolomon602]

I LIKE MY LIMITLESS V2 DEMON BODY…

[@jayrider837]

I really think this is a tow in/out issue...I would have the buckles and adjusted to spec before calling the servo.

[@ExocagedRC]

Off camera we check it out we could move the servo horn without servo movement. Either the horn splines are loose or the gears have play in them. I haven’t messed with the servo since the crash

[@jayrider837]

@@ExocagedRC ok ...good ! That was a cool run !! Can't blame the car , at that speed 1:5 scale ...that's a bad day in the reel scale world !😅

[@Ramztothaz]

Nothing Primal makes seems to actually hold up to normal use. They seem to make nice big and expensive shelf queens but that's about it. The Challenger looks like it handles and brakes like a turd.

[@markbutler2741]

Wait 2300.00 for an rc and its only 2wd? F that!

[@endosrc]

no qs8s on a car this big?

[@ExocagedRC]

I thought about that, but I run XT90's on the 70lb Rambouncer without issue. So far so good on these but If I do have a problem I'll certainly put some QS8's on there.

[@ebonreaver]

How much does this car cost again? Seems to me I should be able slap a battery in it and hit triple digits, this thing doesn’t even track straight. I’ll stick with my Felony, sure it’s smaller but for the money there’s no comparison.

[@ExocagedRC]

you're right, no comparison, this is a MONSTER compared to that little felony.

[@KritikalThinker713]

Glad I didn’t buy yet. That suspension needs upgrading

[@RileyBanksWho]

That thing needs more plastic parts! Too much metal in there and little flex!

[@spenn2007]

Not stable enough for me. Why didnt they add a bit more plastic and reduce the amount of heavy metals? Its would have cost less, and I assume they would sell more units. To me, this is garage shelf queen to show to the boys when they come over for a bbq.

[@ExocagedRC]

Oh man its an attention getter for sure!!! This was basically right out of the box with big power and 12s, this stuff happens

[@shadsarti4921]

$3,000 and it needs a better servo. Ridiculous

[@smallfry1463]

Definitely gyro or servo issue