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@brunotheboar692
@brunotheboar692 Жыл бұрын
"Mcragge was earth like" i can see that "it had an effective administration" nevermind its totally alien
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Fr tbh 😔
@jonasribeiro2001
@jonasribeiro2001 Жыл бұрын
Painfully true
@ryan.1990
@ryan.1990 Жыл бұрын
Yooooo😂😂😂
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ Жыл бұрын
The more i study geopolitics and i learn about each nation the more i learn that there's no such thing as a competent country, our entire species is ultimately incompetent and comical, it's outstanding that we've achieved this much
@gamechanger8908
@gamechanger8908 2 ай бұрын
​@@PeachDragon_ Humanity is boiled down to no mans an island. We as a bunch of idiots band together to survive.
@Channel-23s
@Channel-23s Жыл бұрын
Man if Olympia didn’t rebel or Perty just knew that Big E didn’t care about his tough punishment for his home man the traitors would be doomed
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Probably lol
@silent_stalker3687
@silent_stalker3687 Жыл бұрын
“Okay, so let me tell you why I don’t have actual offspring.” - Emperor telling Perty about the gore orgies that inspired the Eldar when they created Slaanesh and how wild his teenage years were. Pert: deeply traumatized and can’t stand the sight of blood or gore Chaos gods: well… there goes our plans.
@christopheraaron1255
@christopheraaron1255 Жыл бұрын
The same is true of the Dark Angels.
@TheEmperorsChampion964
@TheEmperorsChampion964 Жыл бұрын
If Perturabo was not at Terra during the siege Rogal would have held out long enough for Bobby G to arrive and there's a very good chance that the emperor and Sanguinius would be alive
@negadoge
@negadoge 11 ай бұрын
Yes they would be
@velstadtvonausterlitz2338
@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 Жыл бұрын
Prospero is a hellhole, lmao. Magnus made it liveable by killing its warp predators that took in the shape of insects.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck I forgot about those
@TheCrimsonSpork
@TheCrimsonSpork Жыл бұрын
Seriously, prior to Magnus the real threat of psychic bugs laying eggs in your brain is a major No Thanks
@stefancarter1
@stefancarter1 Жыл бұрын
“I can’t think of a single thing wrong with this place” seems like something a person with mind bug laying eggs in their brain might say.
@jessl1934
@jessl1934 Жыл бұрын
​@@livefromtheblacklibrarySounds exactly like something a person who has had predatory psychic bugs laying brain-eggs in their head would say 🤔🤔
@marthlink5015
@marthlink5015 Жыл бұрын
To be fair that city was SAFE before he got there, the pyscher before him created that city of refuge while everywhere ELSE got ravaged. Then similar to during the necron's slumber the psychic bugs or w/e they were called just.... left. Either cause it wasn't enough food or they'd be drawn elsewhere. Not many are around there but yea im Sure Magnus made there rest of prospero relatively safe after he grew up.
@viorp5267
@viorp5267 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Angron rolled a nat 1 on homeworlds. Not only did he end up on a world of super evil slavers who kept gladiators, but also ones strong enough to somehow subdue and enslave a parimarch and lobotomise his brain beyond repair.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
YEAH LOL
@jonasribeiro2001
@jonasribeiro2001 Жыл бұрын
Nah Angron was just weak
@Goldenblitzer
@Goldenblitzer Жыл бұрын
I feel like his luck was just rock bottom, he was attacked by some form of Eldar, weakened after winning only to be attacked by humans, getting close enough to victor that they enslave you into the pits, then be so compassionate that they implant butchers nails but because he’s a primarch it doesn’t work, so you have all the worst parts of it no none of the good stuff, and it ruins all your primarch yness
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 Жыл бұрын
​@@GoldenblitzerIt's believed it were craftworld eldar who tried to kill Angron when he was a little child because their farseers saw in the form of a prophecy the type of monster he would become and ironically their attept to prevent that prophecy to happen is what made it happen.
@viorp5267
@viorp5267 Жыл бұрын
@@jonasribeiro2001 Yeah he ironically was one of the weaker Parimarchs. Ins't that because he was supposed to be an empath and his legion specialised in being Apothecaries? Angron is an empath so he knows what other people feel etc. Though I feel GW keeps having him loose because he can constantly revive. Only Vulcan seems more pathetic than Angron on that front. On the other hand he beat the living shit out of multiple fully geared up custodes while exhausted wounded and unequipped.
@khazngray
@khazngray Жыл бұрын
Im just glad nobody told Ferrus Manus his world wasn't at the bottom of this list, because he sure as hell would have put it there.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
PFFFFTTT LOL
@myself2noone
@myself2noone Жыл бұрын
I remember a line form Gabriel Seth about primarus marines saying Guilliman is going to turn us into "Ultramarines in red armor." I remember thinking that if I was a civilian on his home planet I'd just look at Ultramar and go "good."
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
LMAO YEAH
@cyanideinmycereal1077
@cyanideinmycereal1077 Жыл бұрын
I would actually rather die
@Peusterokos1
@Peusterokos1 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Girlyman and his sons keeps rolling Nat 20s
@Mikazuchireborn
@Mikazuchireborn Жыл бұрын
Everybody starts off happy when Flesh Tearers first show up during the Ork invasion. Then the citizens get excited when the Flesh Tearers invites them to the victory feast. Then things get weird when the Flesh Tearers instructs them to show up wearing bacon wrap and barbecue sauce. Then it all goes downhill from there...
@classicnestetris3268
@classicnestetris3268 Жыл бұрын
@@Peusterokos1 there is the theory that ultramarines are only rolling nat 20s because All of the orks believe blue to be a lucky color
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 Жыл бұрын
I love how Sanginius, this glorious golden angel, landed on one of the most poor, backwater and shitty planets… it really adds to the biblical references with him being a lot like Jesus
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Lol true!
@doragonzx
@doragonzx 4 ай бұрын
Well In term of SHitty planet, few can do as worse as nostromos
@thumpfump2268
@thumpfump2268 Жыл бұрын
I feel like constantly being under threat of having bugs being able to psychically lay eggs in your brain would knock a world down to unpleasant.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Yeah I forgot about that, no excuse lol
@Memiliano_
@Memiliano_ 11 ай бұрын
Wich one?
@Ibaphel
@Ibaphel 8 ай бұрын
@@Memiliano_prospero
@untrackedvariable3554
@untrackedvariable3554 7 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary We're not mad. We're just disappointed.
@spacecanuk8316
@spacecanuk8316 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes these Age of Strife planets and pocket civilizations are more interesting than modern 40k, not that the Imperium is ever boring....
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
I would have loved more about the Interex or the Auritian Technocracy
@spacecanuk8316
@spacecanuk8316 Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary 100%. I think some of the alien and primitive ones are pretty interesting as well, even if they would suck to live in. There's just so much potential for interesting societies in that post apocalyptic balkanization.
@Matt_of_the_mountains
@Matt_of_the_mountains Жыл бұрын
A book series on the Interex through the age of strife that eventually leads up to them meeting Horus would be amazing!
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ Жыл бұрын
​@@livefromtheblacklibraryinterex would be my army if they were still around
@joesheridan9451
@joesheridan9451 11 ай бұрын
The imperium is never boring? Pass the blunt please
@sanberrios14
@sanberrios14 Жыл бұрын
I was today old when I found out Horus was a literal gangster 😂😂😂
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
LMAO yeah people forget that obe
@spacewolfblackmane19
@spacewolfblackmane19 Жыл бұрын
I really wished that we got more details on Horu's home world cuss ya the Sons of Horus very much did operate like a gang, especially after their fall. Though a far more stable and successful gang unlike the gangs of Nostromo which all universally seemed highly unstable at best, and doom to failure at worse
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Yeah they were like an mob honestly
@alpharius4434
@alpharius4434 11 ай бұрын
The gang of Nostromo were more stable than those on Cthonia, because they were only a part of the civilisation, but the upper class of the city were more like mob families. Cthonia looked more like technobarbarians terran, but worse.
@T0X1CSPIKES
@T0X1CSPIKES 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, they could make an entire television show about Horus home planet and his rise to power. Would be great for the upcoming Amazon series set in the WH40K universe.
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 Жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with your rankings, especially Nuceria & Chemos. I hadn’t thought about the psychological effects of growing up on Cthonia, but yeah that makes a lot of sense.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
That realization is actually what inspired the whole video!
@Matt_of_the_mountains
@Matt_of_the_mountains Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how a primarch growing up on Catachan would turn out. My guess would be like the Lion but Australian. But if say Angron went there instead? Could be interesting...
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Sly Marbo origin story
@Matt_of_the_mountains
@Matt_of_the_mountains Жыл бұрын
​@@livefromtheblacklibrarymy new head canon is that one of the 2nd or 11th Legion primarchs is Sly Marbo
@Mikazuchireborn
@Mikazuchireborn Жыл бұрын
If Angron landed on Catachan and somehow got raised by Catachan Devils, he would STILL grow up to be more well-adjusted and emotionally healthy than he did on Nuceria.
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 11 ай бұрын
Angron would have loved growing up on Catachan, he would have loved the more freedom minded Jungle Fighters, and then the communities being forced to work together to survive.
@HerrTex
@HerrTex Жыл бұрын
You talked about the cultures of the planets, I think nocturn should be a spot or 2 higher because it fostered a very caring and kind culture
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037 Ай бұрын
Drukari, man. Anywhere infested with drukari raiders is a gate to a destiny worse than death
@theenderdestruction2362
@theenderdestruction2362 Ай бұрын
​@@pedroivantaveraferreira3037till vulkan arrived and used black smithing tools to beat their asses
@madalchemist3420
@madalchemist3420 Жыл бұрын
prospero would suck to live on at least until they got the brain wasps under control
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
FUCK I FORGOT THE BUGS
@riccardocarminatigalli2852
@riccardocarminatigalli2852 Жыл бұрын
Fulgrim and Angron need their place swipe . If you have time to go to the arena and watch peoples killing each other, your world is not that bad (if you are not a gladiator)
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 Жыл бұрын
Cruze and Angorn and Mortarion ended up in some of the worst planets to land on with no actual support for the Primarch to relied on for them to grow properly. Cruze was on a planet that was so deep in criminal corruption that everyone on that planet was a criminal trying to survive in a bleak environment never sought by humans. Angorn was by far the most unfortunate considering that the actions of the Eldar that doom Angorn to become little more than a slave to a world that have an Gladiator Culture that force him to slay his fellow gladiators for the enjoyment of the rulers of his world. Mortarion if he landed on the bottom of his world and instead of the mountain he may have been raised better, but since he didn’t he was raised by a alien necromancer who saw all human lives as nothing more than play things to them.
@marthlink5015
@marthlink5015 Жыл бұрын
Curze's world was fine. Lion's was way worse and several people called curze out on it that if anyone like fulgrim,guille, lion hell prob even motry or angron could've unified a mob-boss world.... that's literally what Horus did. Curze's problem is that he landed flawed as fuck- he immediately murders someone, eats them, then justifies the murder cause....well he 'murdered' a murderer... but then when does the cycle end.... PLUS Curze gains traits and characteristics-memories and aspects of those he eats. We don't know HOW much it affects him, but it helps him ALOT, cause it helped him on Lion's ship when he was mangling and eating his soldiers to get the layout of the ship and know places to hide and avoid the Lion.
@codycurtin2295
@codycurtin2295 Жыл бұрын
Olympia being on the 'good' planet part is so funny to me because any of us would probably be dead but in relation to the rest it's so true.
@JiJ1511
@JiJ1511 Жыл бұрын
As an Iron Hand Enjoyer, I humbly accept your thanks for keeping Medusa great.
@tellurius4951
@tellurius4951 5 ай бұрын
Fulgrim cost your primarch a lot of headache
@peace_.was_never_an_option
@peace_.was_never_an_option Жыл бұрын
I feel called out for wanting Chogoris higher on the list but i ultimately agree with where you put it
@o.w.n.1327
@o.w.n.1327 Жыл бұрын
I would rather say that Maccrage is better then Prospero for you know they had a problem of warp creatures killing people.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
True I forgot that one lol
@o.w.n.1327
@o.w.n.1327 Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary also as I have never dwelled into the lore of Cthonia I would wager it to be a better place then say Barbarus. We know it's basically a bit better version of Nostramo. Anyways my point is I love Mortarion and Barbarus is the worst planet to be on. Though yea Cthonia and Colchis had a bigger play in the Galaxy.
@raftguy1376
@raftguy1376 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, you can walk up to a cafe in prospero, sit down, and they will serve you exactly the meal you are craving the most. No ordering, they just know (psychically). Space Rome may be good, but shit. Nothing is as good as that unless you’re on a craftworld.
@o.w.n.1327
@o.w.n.1327 Жыл бұрын
@@raftguy1376 if you don't get eaten by a warp monster first
@theenderdestruction2362
@theenderdestruction2362 Ай бұрын
​@@o.w.n.1327or turned away probably cause no psychic
@sirdragon6860
@sirdragon6860 Жыл бұрын
Prospero good? What about the literal MINDRAPE Wolves that were a constant threat to pyskers? And still existed into the great crusade
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
I FORGOOOOOOOT
@Thyinternet
@Thyinternet Жыл бұрын
1:32 except for the pesky brain eating horror parasites that made most of the world outside of Tizca basically uninhabitable before M’s arrival
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
I…..may have forgot that one
@Thyinternet
@Thyinternet Жыл бұрын
14:37 also with Medusa don’t forget all the crazy weird necron / dark age tech abominations running rampant trying to kill ya. Medusa’s often overlooked but when I think about it, really one of the coolest home worlds. Unfortunately rendered thematically a little redundant by others Cold icy monster ridden hellscape - Fenris, Inwit Monster ridden hellscape in general - Caliban, Nocturne, Olympia Greco Roman theme - Olympia, Macragge, Nuceria Volcanically unstable mess - Nocturne, Fenris Twilit Post industrial hellscape - Cthonia, Chemos, Nostromo Fractious gangland violence / feudal warfare - Cthonia, Nostramo, Chogoris, Olympia, Caliban … practically almost all of them to some extent really
@davidpenney2392
@davidpenney2392 10 ай бұрын
There's also the wind 100mph+ with volcanic glass and Ash that is basically a sand blaster
@Tortle-Man
@Tortle-Man Жыл бұрын
You got something wrong. Medusa is not the world with the shifting tectonics. That’s Fenris. The Fenrusians live like Vikings because during the winter, the main continent freezes over, so they are forced out to sea. They have to move from temprary volcanic island to island because they tectonics are constantly destroying and reforming these islands, and have to battle other clans for usage of the islands. That’s Fenris. Medusa is an ice world with a necron tomb underneath and giant orbital ring surrounding the world. Clans battle each other for survival and to sue the ancient dark age technology that is present on the world. The ancient monsters are actually dark age super weapons that have been let loos on Medusa, and Ferrus Many’s destroyed or locked them away. Just a note that you presented some wrong info there.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh I see
@HANSofWAR92
@HANSofWAR92 Жыл бұрын
I mean Fenris does certainly have intensely shifting tectonic plates but Medusa does as well, enough atleast to cause mountains to rise and fall with regularity. Can’t find anything relating it to an ice planet either, Ferrus landed on a large area of ice however.
@thewerdna
@thewerdna Жыл бұрын
Both planets have super active tectonics. Its mentioned that Medusa has no permanent settlements (outside of the Iron Hands' monetary) because the planet it so tecnonically active, that earthquakes would destroy any settlement before too long. To the point people there tend to live in giant moving mechanical structures so they can move to areas of relative stability for however long those last
@Arenuphis
@Arenuphis 10 ай бұрын
The fenrisians aren't gonna live on the single stable continent either, regardless of time of year, as it's covered in "wolf"-based super predators that make it inhospitable for humans instead it's the seas that freeze over and small shifting landmasses that stabilize slightly so you can settle down for a short while to try to survive the ~2 earth years long winter, make a defensible position against other tribes, and try to bunker up food for when all hell breaks loose once the hotter-than-earth summer comes around again
@doom1609
@doom1609 2 ай бұрын
Naw man, while Fenris may be somewhat active, Medusa has constantly shifting tectonic plates. Seas shift, sky piercing mountains and volcanoes can rise and fall, debris from space even comes crashing down regularly. The clans on Medusa roam the lands in ancient mining rigs that require continuous maintenance because of the changing and extremely hostile landscape. I will say, it has never been confirmed that there was a necron presence on the world, even now in the 41st millennium. It was only a theory made on Imperial Savants to explain the Ferrus’s arms. The evidence points more towards Men of Iron, which Inquisitor Vuln (here on KZbin) explains very well in his analysis of the Xth Primarch.
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 Жыл бұрын
In Fenris, not just the cold and the beasts, but also the summers, the high geologic activity (meaning no permanent settlements,plus volcanoes and earthquakes) and the people constantly making war with each other... all of that with dark age technology or even less, where IRON is scarce
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 Жыл бұрын
In fact, in the "Space Wolf" old novel, they mention that literally nobody could expect to live older than 35. Like 35 there is 95 here
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
YEAH ITS A FUCKING HOLE
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary That's why it produces the best SM 😎
@josephnarvaez9507
@josephnarvaez9507 Жыл бұрын
When you said Dark Age tech I thought it's dark age of technology and not medieval.
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 Жыл бұрын
@@josephnarvaez9507 xD Medieval tech changed a lot, particularly after 1200, that is why I said Dark Age specifically. But yeah, confusing
@XD-sc4ix
@XD-sc4ix Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the knights of caliban wore power armor rather than standard knight armor and I recall they even had power swords meaning that you couldn't defend yourself since you needed people in power armor wielding power swords just to fight back against the beasts also that fenris just like medusa and nocturne is soo geologically and tectonically unstable that mosts of the landmasses of fenris will submerge and emerge from the ocean back and forth depending on the season
@jo_ken
@jo_ken Жыл бұрын
1:12 Properso you can be the best planet till the space wolves show up, then things get difficult.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
PFFFFFFTTTT XD
@Osse-pl8xp
@Osse-pl8xp Жыл бұрын
Chemos became a thriving civilisation after Fulgrims arrival so if you count post primarch it should be ranked higher.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely, but I was mostly referring to the state they were in when the Primarch first landed
@The0Stroy
@The0Stroy Жыл бұрын
Imagine Primarchs switching worlds... Angron with wings (Sanguinus ending on Nuceria) will be even more terrifying (well, he has them now as a demon... But I mean before Heresy)
@NoName-lo9ym
@NoName-lo9ym Жыл бұрын
Relevant points you missed: 1. Olympia was also populated by Chaos beasts whilst Chogoris was not and Chogoris was mostly under the control of the Palatinate Empire . Thus you would most likely end up being born in a large stable empire on Chogoris without giant monsters, thus Chogoris would be safer. 2. Medusa is filled with monsters like Storm Giants, Asirnoth and legions of tech zombies and mutants. Medusa is far more dangerous that Lycaeus therefore
@jan-timolobner
@jan-timolobner Жыл бұрын
This was a really sweet video. But I can't help and laugh about the fact you put Lorgar's planet dead last, even though you do have a point there.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Worst thing about Colchis: has most Lorgar in the galaxy
@jakkard5026
@jakkard5026 Жыл бұрын
Prospero had a species of mind parasyte called the Psychoeuin (or something like that) that would lay their eggs inside your mind. The larvae would devour your brain and psyche to mature, forcing the surviving human population to live in very specific and isolated zones of the world to survive. It was Magnus who saved his people from the beasts and allowed them to grow and prosper. Just throwing that out, great video though👌
@alanolex3962
@alanolex3962 Жыл бұрын
The most important part about Prospero lore is that the restaurants read your mind to figure out what you want.
@dshafterh3897
@dshafterh3897 Жыл бұрын
What the he'll is black powder medicine? That sounds terrifying. Seriously you are my favorite Warhammer KZbinr that's the same age as my grandchildren keep up the good work my grandson and I truly appreciate your take on things.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Awww thanks! Black powder age medicine is things like morphine as anesthesia and amputations for battlefield injuries, also a loooot of infections and cholera
@dshafterh3897
@dshafterh3897 Жыл бұрын
My grandson is so jealous that you keep liking my comments.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
LOL XD give him my regards! Hopefully that helps even the score!
@dziku2222
@dziku2222 Жыл бұрын
Lorgar's planet was pretty chill, chaos worshipping or not. Hell, if we take a thing like that into account, even Cadia used to be one of those worlds, and it ended up as a main bulwark of humanity. The religious upbringing of Lorgar, kickstarted the heresy, but in general pre-heresy Word Bearers acted as mentors and good guys for planets they've captured. Emperor basically had to bitchslap them, of pragmatic reasons, that they waste too much time on educating and sitting with the populus of planets converted to the Imperial rule. WB fall had more to do with Emperor's failings to use legions he had as resources and adjusting to it, than with planet's culture or tbh Lorgar as a person.
@LGMUFO
@LGMUFO Жыл бұрын
Another great video. The great content just keeps coming!
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
🥺 THSNKS
@xavierhugo9269
@xavierhugo9269 Жыл бұрын
Always nice to get more insight into the worlds the people of the imperium live on
@dominickdambrosio783
@dominickdambrosio783 11 ай бұрын
Abaddon: horus how are you going to turn sanguinious? Horus: I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse.
@PteCONeal
@PteCONeal Жыл бұрын
been playing games with your vids in the background , I like the fact that you don't make it too serious like some , or too not serious Really easy to play and listen too
@Evohunter7
@Evohunter7 Жыл бұрын
That was a fun opinion piece. I liked your ranking system.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@weeaboobaguette3943
@weeaboobaguette3943 Жыл бұрын
4:30 "It was all right, pretty good actually" Oh, ok. "It was essentially like Australia" ...
@Channel-23s
@Channel-23s Жыл бұрын
Damn the loyalist had some horrible planets but came out strong or hardened man imagine a Primarch growing up on catachan sidenote still foolish and funny the Lion instead of going for terra Lion chooses to do a bit of trolling and wipes out many traitors homeworlds as revenge and punishment for there deeds
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Thing is that had a purpose, it weakened the demon traitors connection to the material realm! Also I like to think one of the lost Primarchs landed on catachan it had to be taken down because it made him too powerful
@colonelautumns7248
@colonelautumns7248 Жыл бұрын
Sly Marbo is one of the lost primarchs
@Turnil321
@Turnil321 Жыл бұрын
Chogoris should be higher than Earth or Olympia. It's better to live in the middle-ages with clean air than the hive cities of earth.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 Жыл бұрын
When will you talk about the Angel/Proto-Primarch and the Sensei/Star Children? I think they’d be an interesting subject and if they’re actually related to the Emperor.
@ltdanf2357
@ltdanf2357 11 ай бұрын
I’d have to argue you on the Caliban placement, I’d say it should be somewhat higher on the list. While it did have the great beasts and plants that would attack your, they did have things such as power armor, electricity in some areas, radios in others, functioning city states that had their own defenses forces as well as customs to help others in time of need. You weren’t plagued by the great beasts everyday however it was bad when it did come about. It also had some tectonic shifts every so often but we also have that on modern day earth. Even if The Lion did not arrive it’s possible that Luthor might have done the same thing he did and lead a crusade against the great beasts as The Order was the largest and most predominant knightly order on Caliban.
@Historyfrek4ever
@Historyfrek4ever Жыл бұрын
Terra at the time was honestly a great world. Not just because what it was, but what it was going to be. Emperors programs hadn’t annihilated local cultural identies that surviced, industry was up, nature was returning and social mobility was improving. Until heresy came along followed by imperial idiocy.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, it still wasn’t too great by the time Alpharius was found but it wasn’t half bad and WAY better than what most Primarchs got
@darkseidofapokolips9796
@darkseidofapokolips9796 Жыл бұрын
27:17 Bro… the greatest Primarch is just a thug at the end of the day 😂😂😂
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Erebus to Horus: “Personally, I wouldn’t let that shit slide “
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 7 ай бұрын
8:00 i think Chemos should be in dangerous for a normal human, but unpleasant for a Primarch. You can call it ''safe'' in a way yes, but being there means youre gonna die of lung cancer between 30 to 40 from being in the mines 24/7, the fact that you wont get killed in battle or by fauna doesnt make that reality go away, while in Chogoris for example if you manage to not get into any tribal warfare you live in a pretty pleasant natural enviorment. Ofc for a Primarch Chemos is definetly alright, since bad but non lethal conditions mean nothing to a primarch, and the planet wasnt comically evil to the point of fucking Fulgrim up like Nuceria or Nostromo. So i half agree with your take half dont, if there were no primarchs id rather live in Chogoris than Chemos.
@TheLordofMetroids
@TheLordofMetroids Жыл бұрын
I know why you put Medusa where you did but I would argue it should be a lot lower. It's a Necron toumb world, at any minute they can wake up and turn it into a battlefield. Medusa is a time bomb just waiting to blow up so I would put it as one of the most dangerous on this list.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
True but the necron hasn’t begun awakening in the M30s so I opted to ignore it
@custodianguardofthemagyari216
@custodianguardofthemagyari216 Жыл бұрын
My question is with prospero is how did they got strong recruits for the thousand sons?
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a mix of academic ability and physical testing
@custodianguardofthemagyari216
@custodianguardofthemagyari216 Жыл бұрын
​@@livefromtheblacklibraryyes but when they usually describe recruitment they usually choose children who had a Hard life and space marine chapters with homeworlds often do not improve living conditions so they can get better recruits
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Yeah true, but the Thousand Sons were always a black sheep among the legions lol
@oscarandreas1431
@oscarandreas1431 Жыл бұрын
intense body building, training and hogwartsing i assume, buff wizards and all that nice planet does not equal bad recruits, as shown with ultramar and that
@custodianguardofthemagyari216
@custodianguardofthemagyari216 Жыл бұрын
@voidragongork instead of magnus did nothing wrong it should be thousand sons(except magnus)did nothing wrong and that would be true until the end of the heresy
@silent_stalker3687
@silent_stalker3687 Ай бұрын
I misread this as: Primarchs Blankets, from worse to best Do it. You know you want to, you know the laughing god would get a chuckle.
@NotNonamelol
@NotNonamelol 4 ай бұрын
Horus is a certified gangsta
@Onbutteredtoast
@Onbutteredtoast Жыл бұрын
Mind eating bugs sets prospero back for me
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
I forgot about those…
@vicstanfieldshire7754
@vicstanfieldshire7754 Жыл бұрын
No Dog Sign… LMFAO😂
@thesmashingbadger4644
@thesmashingbadger4644 Жыл бұрын
Personally I'd put Macragge over Prospero for one reason. Prospero had the Psychneuein, those gross psychic parasites. Still a paradise compared to the other worlds tho.
@BJWFenix
@BJWFenix 13 күн бұрын
I think the thing about Nuceria is explicitly outside of being a gladiator slave life was solid and Angron was more or less pinpoint fucked over as opposed to the welp there you go nature of the other places.
@Battlechicken12
@Battlechicken12 Ай бұрын
You also forget that Jaghatai’s world also had chaos cults and how the rulers of the cities would hunt down the people of the steeps
@christianfriisjensen2055
@christianfriisjensen2055 10 ай бұрын
Ok, I fucking lost it at "...but that's not something a "No Dogs" sign won't fix"
@pyrrhusofepirus8491
@pyrrhusofepirus8491 Жыл бұрын
2:15 “it had an effective administration” - what is this fantasy realm of wonders and miracles you speak of?
@unbreakablelag
@unbreakablelag Жыл бұрын
I think you are forgetting that Prospero had an insect problem that made it impossible to live if you weren’t a psyker.
@yaelz6043
@yaelz6043 Жыл бұрын
"Macragge was earthlike... It had an effective administration". The fck kind of bizarro version of earth are you living on? Is it the one the 30k books start on or something?
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Fair poinr
@Alexander59059
@Alexander59059 11 ай бұрын
As the Iron hand fan, I appreciate you remembering.
@robjones9128
@robjones9128 Жыл бұрын
Nostramo actually gota little better under curze crime all but disappeared even employees started to pay fairly in fear of retribution from curze. For a little while anyway until he went insane.
@jakeku2662
@jakeku2662 Жыл бұрын
Bro, if I was selling tickets on Nuceria to watch Angron vs anyone, you'd buy em.
@deandhadwal6470
@deandhadwal6470 11 ай бұрын
Um, Prospero had all those giant psyker hunting bugs!!!
@logandelaharpe6362
@logandelaharpe6362 11 ай бұрын
Terra had no fucking water
@FoxHound-ut1hu
@FoxHound-ut1hu Жыл бұрын
I think you are actually underselling the sheer deadliness of Fenris
@miguelperez9906
@miguelperez9906 Жыл бұрын
Baal : we have water that drinks you hell it was so horrible the nids only response was to stack enough body’s that the water can not kill the bodies on the highest rung fir a while.
@corbinibroc
@corbinibroc Жыл бұрын
You forgot how Medusa was literally covered in cyborg zombies and necron constructs
@balls9052
@balls9052 Жыл бұрын
I think you overlooked the impact of the Butcher’s nails and Angry Ron. Heresy or not the World Eaters were doomed.
@davidpenney2392
@davidpenney2392 23 күн бұрын
Medusa 1000mph winds that are filled with volcanic glass it's probably even lower than you think
@TheCoolerReaper
@TheCoolerReaper Ай бұрын
Post Khan Chagoris seems like a good vibe (Minus the constant invasions)
@sbeaber
@sbeaber Жыл бұрын
Caliban had snowfalls that would go to the treeline. The forest could grow over the walls of your village in a single night. Wood that is acidic. Diseases. And warp beasts. Warp beasts. Warp beasts.
@CheeseMeat_
@CheeseMeat_ Күн бұрын
7:29 Ah yes, Bulgrim
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Күн бұрын
Fucking audio clipping 😭
@justinterrell7020
@justinterrell7020 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the Fenrisian ice storms that had hail that could literally flay your skin off! And while Fenris wasn’t as unpredictably unstable geologically like Medusa or Nocturne, every other season you still most likely had to pick up because of glacial shifting/melting, and relocate via the oceans among the islands, which meant you were *forced* to have a very high chance of coming into contact with sea serpents and krakens that may-or-may-not have been ancient tyranid bioforms cut off from the hive-mind. Your literal best bet was being badass enough to be noticed by a Wolf Priest and taken to become a Child of the Stars and go *maybe* live on the Aett, IF you survived drinking from the Cup of Wulfen and didn’t devolve into a feral beast who’s only purpose from then on was to be put down by more favorable aspirants. If you DID survive you STILL had to make your way back to the Fang in those lethal, icy conditions
@Yacovo
@Yacovo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Youre welcome!
@TK199999
@TK199999 Жыл бұрын
FYI, for reasons unknow Cegorach the Alderi Laughing God switched the intended worlds Jagatai Khan and Fulgrim were meant to land on by the Chaos gods. Meaning Fulgrim was meant to land on Chogoris and Jagatai Khan on Chemos. As for Medusa, its said that debris from the orbital ring in terms of derelict ship pieces, bits of cargo containers or infrastructure from ring itself would constantly fall on to the planet. Sometimes the debris was large enough crack the crust and start new volcanic eruptions. That and the planet is most likely a dormant Necron Tomb World.
@theelitistdude8697
@theelitistdude8697 Жыл бұрын
I really want to know what grading scale you used because I think objectively you put weight of safety and longevity waaaaaay to damn high. Other then that fair points were made.
@TheGorgonsForge
@TheGorgonsForge Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ll raise my hands and admit my heavy bias, but I’ve always had the impression that Medusa was one of the worst. Beyond the almost zero resources and constant clan warfare, there is tech wraiths and other non-necron biomechanical monsters that actively hunt down living things, an atmosphere that pretty much required a sealed environment suit when not inside a land behemoth and other wildlife that in some cases, at least according to one of the characters in Eye of Medusa, could even compete with Fenrisisan Wolves, though that might be their own bias. Even one of the scouts in that book said that if all worlds were like Medusa, there would be nothing worth fighting for.
@maxrandelle5774
@maxrandelle5774 Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, can you make a video on the Salamanders? It would be really engaging to watch a video about them from you. :)
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
That would be fun! I really need to read up on them more! Maybe a video about what they’ve been up to after the heresy and their successor chapters
@memesofwarhemmer7076
@memesofwarhemmer7076 Жыл бұрын
40k planets are at best slannesh cults on the making or at worst in the eye of terror 😅
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
That’s fair lol
@kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901
@kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901 Жыл бұрын
TRUNKS YELLING "NOTICE ME" AT VEGETA..."NOOO!!" BRO...I WAS DRINKING SOMETHING AND IT CAME OUT OF MY NOSE...YOU BASTARD!!🤘🏻🤣👍🏻
@vancodling4223
@vancodling4223 Жыл бұрын
Process of elimination spoiled the worst early, but I agree. Definately puts its primarch in perspective
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
True but couldn’t be helped
@theaussieperspective
@theaussieperspective Жыл бұрын
Just for a next time, no idea if I was the only who experienced this BUT, the background music towards the start made me think I had engine problems while driving ;(
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Woopsy lol
@alanaspinall7147
@alanaspinall7147 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Prospero infected by a group of deadly Psychic giant insects? That were praying on the human?
@icefire5799
@icefire5799 Жыл бұрын
Its nice i just wonder how the other planets can not be reached by sublight speed or how it is feaseable to reach a planet in a different system at sublight speeds if there is something else.
@ramblingcollector3165
@ramblingcollector3165 28 күн бұрын
I’ve been watching this video a lot! And now, there’s a question that keeps bugging me. We know that Lion El Johnson destroyed the Traitor Legion homeworlds except for Olympia, but whatever happened to the Lost Primarch homeworlds? Were they also erased the same way as the Lost Primarchs? Or are they still out there somewhere in the galaxy, possibly carrying hints about the origins of the Lost Legions as well as their tragic ends. Imagine for a second, some random Rogue Trader or an Inquisitor stumbles upon a random planet, finding hints that there were once Space Marines as well as something more buried away in ruins. All of which is compounded by the reveal of the Roman numerals for either II or XI, resulting in the reveal that this random explorer has just found long buried answers to one of the most closely guarded secrets in Warhammer 40K. How much of an impact would that have on the community as a whole? To finally have answers, even if very small ones, to the origins of the Lost Primarchs.
@axelNodvon2047
@axelNodvon2047 Ай бұрын
No way bro ranked Prospero higher than Macragge with all those psykic brain munchers
@GameSetPatch
@GameSetPatch Жыл бұрын
Everyone wants to blame Magnus, while making excuses for an Emperor who couldn't be bothered to make certain the one man who could tank his entire plan, was couldn't do so. If the Emperor trusted Magnus, he could have informed him. If he couldn't (or was unsure), the Emperor could have informed Magnus he had a test for him before revealing his greatest plan, and then locked him in a Stasis Vault until the project was complete (while making certain Magnus was the first son to witness this achievement, so the ruse didn't sting ao much). If the Emperor could do neither, then it's surprising he didn't just off Magnus in the back of the head after dinner one night. The Emperor has repeatedly shown himself to be a cruel bastard when his machinations are on the line. But strangely when he was most vulnerable to Tzeentch's scheming, we see the master planner of silly redundancies, casually ignore a potential problem he himself created. Magnus may be an daemonic ass now, but I put this particular failure on the shoulders of the man who would be the master of all mankind.
@thehandofgod2864
@thehandofgod2864 Жыл бұрын
26:56 take this line out of context.
@Ascension646
@Ascension646 Жыл бұрын
Psychneuein would like a word with your perspective on Prospero.
@sweetmeat
@sweetmeat Жыл бұрын
Great list but swap Chogoris with terra, even without the tech and stuff Chogoris still has no radiation and still has its oceans
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm that’s fair, but the low technology level just is a big thing for me because of opportunity and medical care
@Battlechicken12
@Battlechicken12 Ай бұрын
You also forget that Chogoris also had chaos cult’s most likely Slannesh in the cities. Also how the nobility would hunt down the people who lived on the steps
@dtroy_0897
@dtroy_0897 Жыл бұрын
Well it seems that the all mighty algorythm has chosen you to appear on my recomendations feed. You might be pushing the right buttons. 🗿
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
THE BLOOD RITUAL WAS A SUCCESS
@domschra
@domschra Жыл бұрын
"we take technology for granted" Bro you cant compare the universe where technology advances back as fast as our is advancing forward 💀
@namewastaken360
@namewastaken360 10 ай бұрын
Fenris seems so hostile to life it seems just about impossible to survive. The only life that seems remotely plausible is sea life that survives under the ice during the winters.
@kingedgelord4726
@kingedgelord4726 Жыл бұрын
putting nostromo in unpleasant is wild to me, weren't everyone in their specific chapter grapists and murderers and wasn't someone committing suicide get them brutally murdered by konrad curze. i would take an unbelievably amount of gigantic predators before i would ever live in nostromo
@terminallove3531
@terminallove3531 Жыл бұрын
Next should be best to worst Primarch childhood.
@critanalysis9546
@critanalysis9546 Жыл бұрын
What a great idea for a video!
@livefromtheblacklibrary
@livefromtheblacklibrary Жыл бұрын
THANKS! I got the idea thinking about Cthonia and Colchis
@Mgauge
@Mgauge Жыл бұрын
I mean, Prospero did have a bit of a problem with psychic monsters teleporting their eggs into your brain infesting the vast majority of the planet by the time Magnus got there.
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