Primary metering padmount

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Bobsdecline - Lineman blogger

Bobsdecline - Lineman blogger

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@jvtootall
@jvtootall 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just lineman watching your videos. I work in fire investigation and love this type of content. We get limited education in it and this helps expand our knowledge.
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
That's excellent, I appreciate you sharing that! Cheers, and thanks for you do as well 🤝👊
@cvr24
@cvr24 3 жыл бұрын
As an Energy Manager working for a rather large property owner, I saw some pretty crazy metering setups over the years. We needed to have a meter swapped out so I watched the utility meter specialist do it live, but as in the nursing home metering instrument setup you showed, these CTs can be safely shorted for servicing without having to shut off the power. In a facility with a complex electrical room with legacy secondary metering that would never be used today, I discovered an unmetered connection to the main entrance bus. I had to negotiate a settlement with the utility after several years of stealing power entirely by accident. Metering is a big part of my life; without energy meters I don't have a job!
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 жыл бұрын
It happens. Even residentially in the UK... Have seen the input tails (cables) to the meter split to a second fuseboard instead of the output.... Sometimes the routing makes it hard to tell one from the other lol
@fabanero20
@fabanero20 3 жыл бұрын
Im a fairly new meter technician out of fort worth texas and came across one of these today. I decided to look it up on youtube to get more info about it. Thanks for the video! Cheers to everyone else in the industry
@eastf8377
@eastf8377 Жыл бұрын
It's a great job, going in 6 years myself. My crew covers a large portion of south Louisiana. I have not seen a pad style setup but we have plenty switchgear installations.
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
These things are not meant to be opened or worked on while energized! ⚡⚡ We don't open up the back side of these very often! Figured I'd get some shots of what things looked like on the inside. Its a pretty basic setup as far as metering goes. Opening the rear door was done while wearing 20 KV gloves and firewall lifted with hotstick. Pad mount units or confined spaces with bare high voltage wire can be very dangerous!
@williamsparksjr.1212
@williamsparksjr.1212 3 жыл бұрын
We open these all the time with no protection. We disregard Penta bolts all the time. Then again it is all on manufacturing line so probably not a big deal.
@natepeterson34
@natepeterson34 3 жыл бұрын
You did great! I’m certain you lifted the red board insulation panel safely!
@ianmyers1593
@ianmyers1593 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing metering some love. We're typically overlooked in the distribution network
@justingarcia8619
@justingarcia8619 3 жыл бұрын
We have metering points with the same concept but there kinda like donuts that go over the actual secondary spade or blade module what ever you call them lol We also have the same concept metering primary
@jefferytownsend7787
@jefferytownsend7787 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping this was deenergized. I'm sitting here going "fuck that".
@kpdvw
@kpdvw 3 жыл бұрын
Being a retired Substation Relay Technician I can appreciate your work and the systems you are involved with and I appreciate the difficulty of the job of being a Line man, working @ heights in ugly weather etc! Thank you for making these informative videos! Greetings from Utah, USA.
@nicholasaustin1063
@nicholasaustin1063 3 жыл бұрын
Currently an hvac service tech seriously considering the change to become a lineman because of you.
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
It's a really great trade! Being an HVAC tech would certainly give you a head start on things! 🍻🤝
@nasircooper9260
@nasircooper9260 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobsdecline Could you recommend a lineman school or program?? Thx
@Jonathan_O
@Jonathan_O 3 жыл бұрын
@@nasircooper9260 just out of curiosity..... what's your age? I work in IT but at 45 I think I'm likely too old. Literally wanted to be a lineman since I was 7 yrs old!
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
@Nasir, I'm not overly familiar with schools located in the US, are you in Canada or US? ... Or other?
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan O There were two guys on my training crew that were around the age of 45. While physical shape can make the trade much easier, so can technique and maturity. Both of these guys passed the course and made excellent lineman. 👊
@Franktek12
@Franktek12 3 жыл бұрын
I've built control panels for generating stations at Cochran and Kirkland Lake. Waste wood. E Eng buddy toured me through them as well as Nanticoke and the Toronto Enwave plant. I have a great respect for the guys who work with this voltage and the emmense power available.
@adamruck
@adamruck 3 жыл бұрын
That's a shallbetter (now powergrid solutions) cabinet. The company is based in Wisconsin, USA. I used to assemble and wire those exact cabinets by the dozens, along with all sorts of other custom switchgear. So weird seeing one again since I haven't worked for that company for years.
@85agyoung
@85agyoung 3 жыл бұрын
At work we have HV primary metering at 23kv and 12kv. Some metering equipment at 500kv-69kv but that is inside our substation. Nothing like that looks dangerous even opening the cabinet. Always enjoy the videos!
@losttownstreet3409
@losttownstreet3409 3 жыл бұрын
It don't look dangerous but accidents happens all the time. I was with my school at 110kV max. 100MW station with meatering to/from the grid close up. It don't look dangerouse but they already had some deaths in the 50 years of history (checking of a live line if it is grounded with the wrong instrumentation). I personally think that the US/canadion system isn't very safe but in other countries you'll find some overkill. (you need an extra class for every shorter distance of a live voltage, and working on powerd line needs another extra license and they get void after some time without an extra class every 1-2 years).
@MXSLICK
@MXSLICK 3 жыл бұрын
Fundy Park, east side, I camped just up the hill beyond that pad mount back in 2007, walked the staircase down to the village of Alma and had some fresh lobster. I recognize that spot right away.
@rosco4659
@rosco4659 3 жыл бұрын
I love building lines! Me and the lads start a 70 span 11KV rebuild on Monday. All the poles are out and dressed ready and I dropped the last machine this afternoon. Can't wait!!!
@ThePbatemon
@ThePbatemon 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the hangout when I was a kid 🤣 hanging out around one of the pad mounted transformers
@jonschmidt5743
@jonschmidt5743 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am a Distribution System operator for a utility in the western United states. I look at the symbols on the map all day long and work with the field personnel as they maintain them but its nice to get a visual. The company I work for has a bunch of these spread out over our service territory
@Jonathan_O
@Jonathan_O 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very interesting job. Do you work in a control / operations room? I imagine something that looks like a nuclear plant control room (or at least what they look like on TV)
@jamestuccillo
@jamestuccillo 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with the other James! Great minds certainly are named alike. About a week ago your video regarding the downed line across the residential driveway just showed up intrigued and thinking you discussed power related accidents, explaining what happened, why, how it happened, how the rescue was done, the status of the victim and what you can, can't, or shouldn't do if you see someone in that kind of situation. I was hooked watched all your vids over a weekend to catch up. I do trim carpentry and GC in multimillion dollar homes and can do a lot but man I've learned a bunch! I wired my own home over myself but had my friend overlook it all and make the final connection. It was definitely a cool experience I'm just glad I know more about what some of these lines are capable of than I did before especially when operating a Lull or Boom lift near them, your talk about 120 and showing that impact was something else! I'm really glad I let my buddy hook up that main! I'm actually going to start school for Paramedic next month (try something else I've wanted to do while plywood is $600 a sheet!) and I find your videos great for that alone knowing I'll be responding to things with power lines etc.. You should do a episode on medical care and what to do for electrical accidents especially with all the random people watching... Of course we never hope to deal with these in anyway but knowing what to do can save both your and another life sure I can learn something from what you'd have to say. My good friend is a Trauma Rn, Paramedic, and Firefighter with Delray Beach Fire Rescue they had to rescue a guy about 2mo ago off a balcony 3 floors up then lower him dbown (full rope rescue) after he grabbed a live line (think someone threw the breaker not knowing or something). They brought him into the trauma unit at Delray Medical Center (where I was post surgery at the time, I got to hear the trauma page for "electrical burns" come in then see the rescue on the news) he made it thank God. I told my buddy with FD about your channel just the other day when I called hmm to see how he was doing.. he's been back n forth on that condo collapse down in Sureside since it happened (very sad, really something to see, TV does not do it justice. It was almost 5 stories of rubble to start I saw it the 2nd day) but I know he loves to learn and hopefully it'll take his mind off everything there for a bit. Thanks again and keep it up! Take it easy bro and stay safe!
@marcs3982
@marcs3982 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I had the pleasure of doing line work about 12 years ago on a privately owned property used for coal blending. We installed everything from the point of the power company feeds throughout the entire property. It was awesome experience! One of the things I found particularly frustrating was installing the cross arms on both sides of a pole. So simple, but that hole has to be perfectly centered or things don't line up!! Lol. As I'm sure you know!! Learned a lot about line work. Amazing the power of a simple come-a- long tensioning the top three conductors, and how easy it is to snap off a pole at the ground.
@Lanceb131
@Lanceb131 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Keep the videos coming please!
@3beltwesty
@3beltwesty 3 жыл бұрын
0:36 The CT/ Current Transformers are 600 amps through the donut gives 5 amps. This 5 amp output has been a standard for at least 120 years. The ancient meter handbooks here from 1900 have watthour meters with a 5 amp Current Transformer input. The 5 amp CT output wires should never be left not connected. The connection to the CT type watthour meter needs to be large enough wire so the metering is correct. If the wire is too wimpy the meter will read low. The CT will have a rating on its nameplate like B-0.5 or B1.0 etc. This means the maximum resistance allowed in the 5 amp circuit wires to the CT type watthour meter. The CT's shown in 0:36 have no visible "donut hole" for the 600 amp wires, it uses the lugs. The donut hole variant is more common on pole mounted and service head mounted CT metering. There are other standard amp outputs than 5 amps, ie 10, 1 1/10 amp etc. These are more common in lab usage. If you short out the 5 amp CT side and connect a clamp on amp meter it will read 5 amps when 600 amp passes thru. The ones in this video look like GE model JAK-0C
@abpsd73
@abpsd73 3 жыл бұрын
I wound up dealing with my local utility regarding a primary metering tank about a year ago feeding 500 KVA to a building. It was a unit from the 60s or so, and about 3x3x3' Lost a phase when a mouse decided to hop across the lugs, found burnt and half alive. According to the PoCo, this building was primary metered since the transformer is under a rental contract. Luckily we found the culprit that caused the arc over, otherwise they would have had to tear everything apart and install a newer larger unit like in your video.
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 3 жыл бұрын
Low voltage electrician here, 600v or less. Have a customer that has a bunch of buildings that are all fed from a single pole mounted metering setup like the one you show at the end. On occasion they have damage to the various poles and cross arms that needs fixing. The local electrical provider is good enough to shut down and ground the legs for us to get our work done. Sure wish it were all underground concentric neutral at the site though due to the trees contacting the lines and tripping the drop out fuses! So not a lineman but familiar no the less. Never seen the pad mounted version though so thanks.
@netking66
@netking66 3 жыл бұрын
Used to be involved with 110kV and 220kV metering. Of course the systems used 5 amp secondary current transformers (combined with protection secondaries) and 110 volt secondary voltage transformers. The meter sent impulses to a 'printometer' which stamped half hourly 'readings'. I loved the sound the printometer made when counting the pulses, each click meant $$$.
@dylanw6804
@dylanw6804 3 жыл бұрын
@Bobsdecline you’re my hero man. I swear I’m in USA, and you’re intelligent and handy man. Thanks for the videos.
@noelcastle3986
@noelcastle3986 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how you do that in Canada . We had a quite few installations both overhead and paramounted and installed into HV switchgear . We called them metering units ,basically identical to your unit there electrically but much different in physical design . The voltage transformer is usually only rated at 150va 110volt output but has high accuracy and the magnetic design of the transformer runs at a lower more accurate part of the BH curve of the transformer. We use the two wattmeter method that only needs two of the three phases to have current transformers fitted for accurate metering both watts and vars.Have had a few issues with primary fuses of the Voltage transformers blowing on inrush current if a good initial contact is not made switching the primary circuits as the primary fuses are very low rated typically 1 to 2 amps and fail regularly. It was part of our procedures to check health 3 phase secondary outputs when doing inspections of these units.
@JDSWeather
@JDSWeather 3 жыл бұрын
Hi from Maine I work as a flagger for Project Flagging which is a division of Maine Staffing Group both are located in Bangor, Maine I started out Flagging doing DOT Jobs now I'm doing AWS Flagging for Power crews here in Maine such as Versant, is in Maine 3 Phase which 3 phase is from New Hampshire, Savage Line which is in Maine lately we've been setting alot of new poles and distribution lines AWS stands for Advanced Warning Signs which my job entails setting out signs Utility Work Ahead, Be Prepared To Stop & Flagger Ahead its an awesome job and I have a much better understanding of how power works how poles need to be periodically replaced etc and highly respect Lineworkers yes my job is dangerous directing Traffic, Pedestrians safely through work zones but my job isn't as dangerous as a line workers job is dealing with 72,000 volts of death if not taken seriously👊
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear that you enjoy your job and take it seriously! That's very important and we're all part of a team that make each job possible and allow us to go home safely at the end of the day! I've worked with guys from your area before! Cheers! 🤝🍻
@JDSWeather
@JDSWeather 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobsdecline that's very very cool
@nateroth1302
@nateroth1302 3 жыл бұрын
That Troubleman's Kit you have can be a good tool to do a quick verification of the PT/CT's, or to find our what the ratio is as the tags sometimes go missing... We also have HV probes that will connect into a field calibrator, which keep your meter techs a safe distance using a hot stick, for proper billing rates. Stay safe and thank you for all your hard work!
@cleverca22
@cleverca22 3 жыл бұрын
there is some pole-top 7200 metering by an old chemical plant in my town at the northern end of the province they replaced the old 69kv line with a metered 7200/12470 off the residential grid, since it only needs basic lighting now
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 3 жыл бұрын
I love hearing this type of stuff. It's so interesting how engineers figure out how to improve/streamline things. Similarly, the telecom industry has seen many evolutions.
@davidcleavinger2875
@davidcleavinger2875 3 жыл бұрын
👊 Baytown TX. I just got started as a laborer on a underground utilities construction crew for North Houston Pole Line. Waiting for my spot in the apprentice program
@thalstantrailwalker2393
@thalstantrailwalker2393 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great videos. I hope you had a great Canada Day!
@three-phase562
@three-phase562 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting I do not see that kind of a set up over here in the UK. The metering point will be the boundary between the network system and the private owner. If it is on HV, then the CTs and VTs will be in the HV switchgear and the secondary wiring brought out to external metering, the transformer will be privately owned. If it is on the LV side, then the CTs will be in the transformer secondary connection chamber, which will be under network ownership. You also seem to reference your system voltages phase to earth, where as we reference them phase to phase, i.e. generally our primary voltage will be 11kV or 6.35kV to earth.
@netking66
@netking66 3 жыл бұрын
In USA transformers are generally connected phase to neutral on the HV side and there is a neutral wire interconnecting transformers. So a transformer would be labelled as having a 7200 volt primary but the line voltage would be 12470 volts . Compare with Europe, Australia, New Zealand etc where single phase distribution transformers are generally connected 11000 volts phase to phase (high voltage single wire earth return systems being a notable exception). Also unlike USA a three phase pole transformer (delta-star) would be used instead of three single phase transformers connected star-star.
@three-phase562
@three-phase562 3 жыл бұрын
@@netking66 Thanks for the info 👍
@ianmyers1593
@ianmyers1593 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a meter electrician for a large utility in Ohio. Majority of our primary is pole racks but I've seen several underground set ups in our lay down yard. Guess I'll be setting up a few soon.
@alan.macrae
@alan.macrae 3 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff Aaron. Great way to start the week. Thank you and be safe! 👊
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan, have a great week! 👊
@natepeterson34
@natepeterson34 3 жыл бұрын
Bare 7200V wire is not common in the states. Typically we would use unshielded insulated jumper wire instead. Our distribution voltage is usually 12,470 or 13,800 though.
@cleverca22
@cleverca22 3 жыл бұрын
7200 phase to gnd is the same as 12470 phase to phase most of the residential stuff ive seen in atlantic canada is all running from a single phase, so its rated for 7200, but some people still insist on calling it 12470 service, even if there is only 1 phase left on the pole
@natepeterson34
@natepeterson34 3 жыл бұрын
@@cleverca22 yes but the wire insulation is rated for 15kV is what I’m getting at.
@wgmskiing
@wgmskiing 3 жыл бұрын
Really neat. I'm surprised that this cabinet doesn't appear to be interlocked at all. It's so interesting to see the difference vs industrial equipment where the interlocks have interlocks.
@K-Plsek
@K-Plsek 3 жыл бұрын
Sehr veraltet Technik! Ebenso wurde bei dem Trafo noch nie ein Service gemacht. Das ist Technisch Steinzeit!
@KJosephThomas
@KJosephThomas 3 жыл бұрын
I've exchanged/upgraded several of these to smart meters while energized. Thanks for the vid. Luv'd it.
@budfarkus
@budfarkus 3 жыл бұрын
Many of these in my territory, they can make you scratch your head for a moment.Have them overhead n padmount installations.
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched the lineman work in mine next to my house, energized b!!!! He Hooked up my new meter pedestal with it on
@jakiegoter2411
@jakiegoter2411 3 жыл бұрын
👍 you should do a video of where all that primary goes aerial in the park there, if you haven’t already 🤦‍♂️. Sketchily low cutouts, fed from the bottom, poles leaning etc.. before they change it that is.
@GooogleGoglee
@GooogleGoglee 3 жыл бұрын
How power meter works? Can you make a video?
@the_townleys
@the_townleys 3 жыл бұрын
That is kind of an interesting setup to bill the customer we gotta do what we got to do right😎
@tracyhawley8829
@tracyhawley8829 3 жыл бұрын
Journeyman. Industrial electrician in Texas interesting to learn how the utility's work before it gets to me.
@VariacManiac
@VariacManiac 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen that before. Thanks for showin!
@apollorobb
@apollorobb 3 жыл бұрын
We have those here in Oklahoma in some areas similar to the one i saw at Forillon when we went up there .
@TechOne7671
@TechOne7671 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for showing.
@hardwiired
@hardwiired 3 жыл бұрын
The university in my area has their own private power network. I remember a lineman telling me it confused him because they aren't well labeled private and he couldn't figure out why his key wasn't working. I think they buy power the same way as shown. I'm in NC.
@ismaelabregana1493
@ismaelabregana1493 3 жыл бұрын
Watching here from philippines!! Stay safe sir aaron!!
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ismael! Have a great week!
@ismaelabregana1493
@ismaelabregana1493 3 жыл бұрын
You too sir!!🙂
@ryanyork837
@ryanyork837 3 жыл бұрын
It's typically you see something like that in a big industrial application like a lumber mill
@edmundgeldart7402
@edmundgeldart7402 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!, love the Channel!
@sumilidero
@sumilidero 3 жыл бұрын
Its very common in europe to meter at MV. Almost all buildings that are supplied at medium voltage have meters at MV because its cheaper tariff that way. If you had meter after transformer at low side, then energy is more expensive, because they count you for transformer losses, of course many times more than actual power lost.
@peters6850
@peters6850 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever get big bee nests in those things?
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! 😨 The "One shot" foaming spray works the best on them! 🐝🐝
@ingramgordon5438
@ingramgordon5438 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm. I have never looked into our HV metering cabinets here.
@the_townleys
@the_townleys 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the cool stuff this is so we can bill the customer
@markbernier8434
@markbernier8434 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you explain a pad mounted transformer with central metering of the secondary.
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 3 жыл бұрын
Low voltage electrician here that has done this a number of times. They set the transformer and supply the CTs and you simply slip them on the yokes for the secondary. You then terminate them with crimped lugs and bolt up. They also had me install the meter can directly on the secondary side cabinet. I drilled and tapped the cabinet for the appropriate fasteners and bolted the meter can there to it. Installed a 1-1/2" chase nipple with a bushing as a pass thru. Meter and test did the wire up and all good. Easy peasy.
@markbernier8434
@markbernier8434 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeiver Thank you. Sounds like what I saw except meter can on a post (6' above grade to keep it out of the snow)
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbernier8434 There are many ways to skin the cat and the energy supplier decides what they want as far as the metering and the placement of the can. We simply have to flow to the planners desires!
@missyd0g2
@missyd0g2 3 жыл бұрын
If I may ask a few questions. The colored tape you use to color code the cable. Is it special weather electric tape? The nuts and bolts used. Are they treated with a grease or special like stainless? Thank you for your videos
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the utilities buy the really good tapes. The tapes they use for phasing the conductors are likely 3M #35 or the like. Good stuff and stands up to the weather really well if properly applied. As to fasteners allot of the line stuff I have seen and dealt with is galvanized. There has been some SS but it tends to gall if the interface of the threads are not coated with the likes of antiseize or Noalox. I prefer to crimp when possible to eliminate issues down the road. I Noalox every connection and all threads as well as interfaces. I use Belville washers and double nut critical interfaces. Do it one and do it right! Hope that helps
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Great answer! Much of our fastening equipment is also galvanized, with the occasional stainless, brass, copper etc..
@japmlp09
@japmlp09 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeiver o
@minilockwood24
@minilockwood24 3 жыл бұрын
Dang…how far north are you to be wearing a sweatshirt? We’re in the middle of a heat wave in New York!
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah, this one was filmed about 6 weeks ago! We did have snow a month ago tho, now today it was over 30° celsius 😅
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobsdecline Are you near the ocean? I hear that even on warm days it can still be cold. I've been to NL 3 times and can kind of see why.
@TheAustrianLineman
@TheAustrianLineman 3 жыл бұрын
How big is your area ?
@naithbryen3739
@naithbryen3739 3 жыл бұрын
Probably good practice to have the mating surface of the current carrying lead on the mating face of the CT. They have the VT lead sandwiched in between the two here 🤔
@andrewkoch9021
@andrewkoch9021 3 жыл бұрын
I miss building these.
@sarcasmmuch8905
@sarcasmmuch8905 3 жыл бұрын
Commonplace in Ca, Bypass switches in the meter can
@marcdich9066
@marcdich9066 3 жыл бұрын
transformers robots in disquise , transformers dont stick your hands inside hahahahaha
@Jonathan_O
@Jonathan_O 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@chupacabra1765
@chupacabra1765 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the short term surprise if metal thieves pried open the cabinet.
@mobilecommunicationsnetwor5268
@mobilecommunicationsnetwor5268 3 жыл бұрын
Who would do the initial install of this unit? Do you have a special crew?
@HiPpiEBoi
@HiPpiEBoi 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that ct was some ABB equipment, I’ve heard good things about ABB products. In your experience what’s the best equipment or gear you’ve seen/worked on?
@diffsoun
@diffsoun 3 жыл бұрын
we love abb never had any issues
@keything8487
@keything8487 3 жыл бұрын
do you have the green box type capacitor units?.....ive always wanted to see how those work in real time....great videos...keep the good work flowing !!!
@kiawandajr1097
@kiawandajr1097 3 жыл бұрын
We have three phase fiberglass metering cabinets but they don’t have that live front exposed bare 7200. Ef that! That looks like a fairly newer piece of of equipment. The ones we have are thirty plus years old. There not making them any safer
@jameswoods7276
@jameswoods7276 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think NSP does these except for maybe large industrial users (pulp / paper plant type big) Worked at malls and schools and such and have always seen individual inside meters. Have seen some odd after meter transformer set up though. 240 > 600v transformer for a big sump pump for a new condo building was the oddest one. (At least I thought)
@terrydavis8451
@terrydavis8451 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of hazard can those cause when they are flooded out or say someone crashes into one & tries to remove themselves with that bare copper. Seems like there are 100 situations that could lead to a shock hazard.
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Much like a lot of underground lines, flooding can be a nightmare. We kill the power when possible during flood season. Most are mounted at high points when possible much like this one. The lines are also always fused before going into the ground. You certainly can't rely on fusing, however in the event of a vehicle accident they will likely trip. That being said, regardless of said likelyhood, the lines and all components are to be treated as live until a certified and competent lineman arrives and says otherwise
@mathman0101
@mathman0101 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobsdecline stay safe brother never ever get too comfortable even experienced linemen make mistakes, check, double check triple check and never feel the pressure to rush things it’s your life on the line.
@cleverca22
@cleverca22 3 жыл бұрын
usually, these boxes have a ring of concrete filled posts around them, to protect from cars but the one in this video is a fair ways away from the road, you would have to be driving pretty insanely to manage to hit it
@generatorjohn4537
@generatorjohn4537 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine once this equipment is installed your not going to have to do anything more to it except inspect it. I wonder if these kinds of enclosures are popular with snakes or rodents getting across the exposed conductors and causing a fault?
@e.vasquez9946
@e.vasquez9946 3 жыл бұрын
No phasing set?
@williamdavis3128
@williamdavis3128 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a data farm I have to do utility locates have 4 metering pad mounts and there own dedicated substation
@BattlestarCanada
@BattlestarCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming by your accent you're new brunswick or pei... When they buried the service; would that be upgradeable to 3 phase?
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed what looks like hooks next to the line-side inputs on the front. Are those for holding cables when removed for servicing?
@PLTFishing
@PLTFishing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@RameezLalloo
@RameezLalloo 2 жыл бұрын
hey there i know this question does not relate directly to your line of work, but i assume you are a sparky when working with household motors like a lawn mower or pool pump, is there a way of discharging a capacitor without damaging it. I normally only handle such wires a day after powering off such appliance or bridge the terminals when im changing the cap, so in such case it doesnt matter what happens to the cap
@Mister_Brown
@Mister_Brown 2 жыл бұрын
get a 1megaohm resistor and put it across the cap, monitor voltage until it's safe, at 400v which is more than the cap should have on it, peak current will be 0.5ma or less so it shouldn't spark at all, and it will drop about 10 volt/sec on a typical motor run cap tailing off as it decreases another option is to use a pair of 7w 120v incandescent bulbs in series like old screw thread christmas lights, they will drain it faster and provide an indication of when it should be dead but always verify with a meter
@dylanw6804
@dylanw6804 3 жыл бұрын
What does the copper wall do keep it from sending a electrical shockwaves to the other end?
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect it attempts to keep an arc flash from happening between the phases.
@RTWGraphics
@RTWGraphics 11 ай бұрын
Been an estimator a while and opened a lot of equipment. I have never seen anything like that.
@willrobbinson1
@willrobbinson1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the video , interesting
@romandabrowski8994
@romandabrowski8994 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Are those red safety panels in place all the time or only when you are in the box? And the bottom of those panels look like they can swing back and forth in the wind, do you ever worry about them hitting the conductors if you open the doors and they swing in? Thanks!
@coolsnake1134
@coolsnake1134 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume there are there all the time even if the doors are closed and they appear to be made out of fiberglass which is non-conductive.
@adamruck
@adamruck 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I worked for the company that built the cabinet in the video (Shallbetter Inc). Those red panels are made out of a material called "GPO" which is a fiberglass material. It's super itchy and a pain in the ass to work with. The cabinet has two halfs, the dead front (which doesn't have the GPO barriers) and the metering side (which has the GPO barriers). The barrier serves two purposes. Additional insulation between the live bus bar and the cabinet walls, and also acts as a "double door" type system so someone who wants to access the metering side of the cabinet has to do 2 conscience acts. The first act is opening the door, the second act is removing the GPO which is covered in warning stickers. It makes it really hard for someone to argue in court that they "didn't know it was dangerous" or "accidently" entered the metering side while it was live.
@someonesomewhere1240
@someonesomewhere1240 3 жыл бұрын
Red/Yellow/Blue? I thought that was mostly a UK thing and US/Canada used their own colours.
@splitt3r
@splitt3r 3 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing a lot of what I assume are pole mounted transformers that are about the size of soup can and always in groups of 3. Do those serve the same purpose as these? They look like a mini version of the transformers you see everywhere
@ronaldholford7233
@ronaldholford7233 3 жыл бұрын
Three pot bank 3 or 4 wire services depending on resident or commercial unit
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 жыл бұрын
its scary there's that much power in a box just sitting on the ground with no fence
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 жыл бұрын
It has a solid steel fence with a lock - the enclosure.
@chainsawsandgenerators9952
@chainsawsandgenerators9952 3 жыл бұрын
around here they do it in "high theft" areas, make sure someone is not stealing power in a apartment complex
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Cool nice to know!
@ChicagoSteve69
@ChicagoSteve69 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, no strip heaters? Must not get much moisture in your area..
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Only in the metering cabinets. The pole mounted metering unit near the end of the video would likely have one in the metering cabinet
@netking66
@netking66 3 жыл бұрын
The voltage transformers would give off sufficient heat to keep things above dew point.
@ChicagoSteve69
@ChicagoSteve69 3 жыл бұрын
@@netking66 that’s not necessary true if the equipment is anywhere in the midwest. I will admit, not all applications require a heater strip.
@EWurdeman
@EWurdeman 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show a N.O. transformer and explain them? Can it close automatically or is it just a manual switch. And are the neutrals on the primary on the N.O. still bonded on the ground bar? I work for a locating company and we struggle locating N.O. primary and trying to figure out a better way and I need to understand it. Thanks and keep the awesome content coming! By the way I was sub'd for over a year and it unsub'd me!
@MaxDJsWorkshop
@MaxDJsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Huh. I'm surprised to see the bare copper connections on the CT/VT side. I suppose 7.2kV is not a huge potential above earth, but over here in Australia we might be a bit concerned about the local wildlife (I.e. rodents) getting in there and bridging the gap....
@abpsd73
@abpsd73 3 жыл бұрын
Up in Canada where I'm at, we encounter rodents getting into things and popping fuses. Overhead feeds get rodents and birds. I'm just an electrician, but I get the call when things stop working, I'll get somewhere and usually check the building service, then see if there is a dropped fuse on a pole where it's overhead fed, and make some calls to the local utility to get things fixed.
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 3 жыл бұрын
High pots, sub station. Wicked voltage.
@peep39
@peep39 3 жыл бұрын
it always freaks me out when people gesture at bare conductors
@mikekimble6084
@mikekimble6084 2 ай бұрын
Smacking makes the video better😂
@theteenageengineer
@theteenageengineer 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you. How much training did you have to go through to become a lineman? Did you have to go to college?
@DanBellJr
@DanBellJr 3 жыл бұрын
What brand Eyewear are you sporting?
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
I picked these glasses up at a Stihl dealer for $12! I love em! ... Got a clear pair as well (they're also Z-87) They say Stihl on the arms, but are just rebranded. I found the company online after I got them, I'll try and find it again and mention it in a future video if I can't find this comment again.
@MD4564
@MD4564 3 жыл бұрын
Why is there bare copper in a non-secure tank ? Seems kind of dangerous some nut head decides open it and cut the cable (value of the copper)?
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
It's triple locked with bolts that have a unique head pattern, as well as padlocked in such a way that cannot be accessed with bolt cutters.
@coolsnake1134
@coolsnake1134 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bobsdecline and in my opinion if someone does manage to get into those cabinets they definitely deserve whatever is coming to them I mean you have to be very stupid to cut that stuff live
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 2 жыл бұрын
Why is anything done above ground anymore? Feel like buried services are far superior. Way less chance of something damaging it.
@jamesashley3827
@jamesashley3827 3 жыл бұрын
We see this metering of medium voltage at data centers on the time, the government and data centers buy medium voltage from power company
@CiscoWes
@CiscoWes 3 жыл бұрын
Ever been called out because some critter got in one of those and shorted something out?
@cattechofficialmeowmix993
@cattechofficialmeowmix993 3 жыл бұрын
Wats In wind a recloser
@danbrit9848
@danbrit9848 3 жыл бұрын
Ware is the part you actually read the gage that tells the use
@d133344
@d133344 3 жыл бұрын
pretty new to electrical.. and trying to learn as much as i can.. can you please start explaining what the abbreviations are... Thanks! @bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline
@Bobsdecline 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Totally my bad, I will definitely make a point to be more clear! 👊 Is there any in particular that you remember off hand?
@tysonlewis9039
@tysonlewis9039 3 жыл бұрын
I know where you were. LOL
@idontneedaname85
@idontneedaname85 3 жыл бұрын
I get nervous watching anyone work on pad mount stuff. Stay safe
@navasmnavasmnavasmnavasm8823
@navasmnavasmnavasmnavasm8823 3 жыл бұрын
allahu bless you care and health for work I am Electricity Indian Lineman Navas
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