This is the only video I found that solved this problem and that limit without using the circular logic of L'Hopital's rule. You are the only one that showed that limit to truly be 1. Earned a like from me.
@lukewarm74652 жыл бұрын
Same here
@agytjax Жыл бұрын
@@lukewarm7465 He could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof : We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1) We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)} Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get : => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){1} => e^x
@sphakamisozondi8 ай бұрын
Sane here. This is a satisfying explaination to this problem
@boguslawszostak17846 ай бұрын
You don't have this problem if you DEFINE ln(x) as the integral from 1 to x of 1/u du, and the function e^x as its inverse function.
@spudhead1696 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it's still kind of circular. d/dx e^x = e^x is itself a definition of e, in that e is the only value of n that satisfies d/dx n^x = n^x . You cannot prove a definition, if you could you wouldn't need it to be a definition. Trying to prove it will always result in a circular argument with a derivative because such a proof requires the use of the definition of e in some form, and since all definitions are equivalent, using the definition of e is equivalent to using the derivative definition and thus circular.
@nadineabusaleh94019 ай бұрын
The way he looks at maths as it is magic and charm gave we a really beautiful vibes , i have never seen a teacher that is calm and has this clarity before . I hope he continues .
@emmanuelmasemola10142 жыл бұрын
Very sincere, very clear, I wish we were together during my university days, these are the kind of channels that deserve subscription, you don't need to tell us to subscribe , we have fallen inlove with your content.
@herbertsusmann986Ай бұрын
It has literally been 50 years now since I learned this stuff so many of the details I've forgotten (like how to derive things like this from first principles). This is an elegant way to do that for e^x!
@Einstein.Albert.official Жыл бұрын
man you have a beautyful handwrigting
@AcryllixGD2 жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the best videos ive ever watched! Im an a level student in the uk learning about calculus and this video made it so clear as to why this was the case! Really good video!
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@xebby92 жыл бұрын
The BEST explanation I've watched about this derivative
@sphakamisozondi8 ай бұрын
I have never, not even in my maths books I used at university, have someone explained why, _lim_ _h -->0_ *{exp(h) - 1}/h =1* Well done sir. Much love from South Africa
@hiderr6805 Жыл бұрын
You may want to substitute (e^h - 1) with (1/n) instead of n. This way you would get easily to the most commonly known definition of e, that is lim n->inf (1+1/n)^n instead of (1+n)^(1/n)
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will investigate that option
@robread-jones3698 Жыл бұрын
We all know there is something inherently beautiful in mathematics, but that explanation with its cool, calm, clear and entertaining delivery really emphasized that point. It was a joy to watch. A video has to be something particularly special to get both a like and a subscribe out of a grumpy old git like me. Job done here. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos.
@Katutowavicle Жыл бұрын
I wanna thank not just for the great explanation but the positive energy you put in the video
@MrDipanmehta2 жыл бұрын
This is the most critical video - unlike so many other dealing with this topic. However, this doesn't comes on top of youtube search try adding some keywords or description mentioning "exponential function". This is amaziing video thank you.
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion, I have made some changes.
@GicaKontraglobalismului Жыл бұрын
Great! I have always calculated the derivative of the exponential using the derivative of its inverse, that is, of the logarithm, and always thought the direct calculation impossible. In Romanian Language "to learn" is said "a invata" which is formed of words "in" and "viata" which mean "in" and "life" ; in other words, the Romanian the word for "to learn" actually means "to be alive" which is exactly what you said in the end. Your mind already thinks Romanian! I also appreciate your style, the blackboard, the chalk, and last but not least your calligraphy!
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is inspirational! Thank you for your comment.
@labibbidabibbadum Жыл бұрын
Liked, subscribed, coming back. I’m helping my teenage son who is just starting with calculus. This kind of clarity in teaching is wonderful.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@debjanimukherjee50211 ай бұрын
Reminiscing my college days with you and enjoying my retired life ❤
@mihaipuiu6231 Жыл бұрын
Sir,you are a good teacher.Why? Because your writing is very nice, you work on a clean table, but very important...your proof is very clear and you explain like MICHAEL PENN. Thanks, SIR.
@obadamh70302 жыл бұрын
I finally found someone to clear it up simply, I really owe you
@MrWildcathendrix11 ай бұрын
I've just studied this demonstration in my Math 1 book for my first year of Computer Science Engineering university course, it's exactly the same as you write, but the way that you explain it makes math much more fun!
@RobertKashila2 ай бұрын
The guy is a logarithmic genius 👌
@renesperb Жыл бұрын
A nice and clear presentation,and , in contrast to many other videos of this type , a good handwriting , making it easy to read.
@donald_w5 ай бұрын
You are an incredible teacher! Thank you for explaining this so well and not overlooking the small details 😊
@mohamedsaith45322 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!!! How amazing explanation 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@agytjax Жыл бұрын
From 4:35 onwards, you could have avoided the complicated route of proving using natural log (ln). Here is the proof : We have e^x.Lim(h->0){(e^h - 1)/h} --- (1) We know that e=Lim(h->0){(1+h)^(1/h)} Substituting the value of 'e' in (1) above, we get : => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(h*1/h) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){([1+h]^(1) - 1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(1+h-1)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){(h)/h} => e^x.Lim(h->0){1} => e^x Q.E.D
@clemensvorbauer118311 ай бұрын
no, you are not allowed to take the limit h->0 twice…
@SanePerson1 Жыл бұрын
A nice side result from this extremely nice demonstration is hidden in the penultimate line. I'm so accustomed to taking the derivative of e^x, that I forget what constant I should use when taking the derivative of a^x. But the entire derivation you've given doesn't change for that case, EXCEPT that in the middle panel, one should use the base-a log instead of the natural log (ln). so you get (d/dx)a^x = [1/log(e)]a^x, where the log is the base-a log. In particular, this recovers the conversion factor for base-10 log and natural log: 1/log(e) ≈ 2.303.
@catnip29065 ай бұрын
Dear Sir. Thanks for the clarity. I was blind but now I see.
@goldCrystalhaze Жыл бұрын
I saw an explanation of the derivative of a^x in a lecture, which I never actually understood and I was going to search for a better explanation these days. Your video came by chance and it is fantastic! Thank you so much! I have subscribed to your channel.
@No-cg9kj10 ай бұрын
e and ln love to sneak their way into everything lol. If you haven't got to calc 2 yet be prepared to see them a lot haha.
@averagehooligan620 Жыл бұрын
Mindblown. Been searching for this.
@kopisusu37812 жыл бұрын
this really cleared things up for me. thankyou very much!
@kingbeauregard Жыл бұрын
Oooh, I like your style! You're really clear, and your enthusiasm is infectious. Subscribed!
@petersamantharadisich60952 жыл бұрын
it might be easier to simply start with that definition of e and expand in a power series e^h = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...+h^n/n!) then subtract 1 e^h - 1 = lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!) then divide by h (e^h - 1)/h= lim_n (h+h^2/2+...h^n/n!)/h = lim_n (1+h+h^2/2+...h^(n-1)/n!) then take limit with respect to h (limit is 1 and doesn't depend on n), then with respect to n (still 1)
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I wanted to stay within knowledge from precalculus and highlight that manipulation I showed.
@znhait Жыл бұрын
This is circular reasoning. You just gave the Maclaurin series for e^x, which is obtained by finding the derivative of e^x. If someone is finding derivatives from first principle, the assumption is that no result that includes the derivative--other than the definition itself--can be used.
@petersamantharadisich6095 Жыл бұрын
@@znhait I don't think it is, as you can derive the power series by expanding the definition used in the video... e^x=lim_n(1+x/n)^n = lim_n{sum_j (x/n)^j × n!/[j!(n-j)!]} = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [n/n][(n-1)/n]...[(n-j+1)/n]} = lim_n{sum_j x^j/j! × [1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]} = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!} × lim_n{[1][1-1/n]...[1-(j-1)/n]} = lim_n {sum_j x^j/j!} The above does not refer to derivatives of e^x, there is no need to use circular reasoning to get the result this way.
@Ray1tx9 ай бұрын
Wonderful explanation!
@aram5642 Жыл бұрын
Greatest blackboard and chalk I have seen of all math videos here. The lighting would benefit from some angle or diffusor though ;)
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am still trying to find the pest lighting conditions for videos. I hope the newer videos are better lit in your opinion.
@souverain1er11 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Love it. Never learnt this in calculus
@tomvitale35558 ай бұрын
We've been saved from destruction and made the world a better place to live! 😁 Excellent description!
@invisiblelemur Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you for getting me as excited about this as you are!!
@idolgin776 Жыл бұрын
It was really cool when the exponential definition of e popped out. Never seen such manipulation before!
@anonymous-ui7il Жыл бұрын
I am binging on your videos, it has helped me a lot with calculus.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you find them helpful. Thanks for the feedback.
@kiturundee90773 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Love the energy 😀
@felipecanogiraldo24992 ай бұрын
Very greatful of this explenation, great teacher, great video, great smile haha. Keep it on like that. Greetings from colombia !
@Rob1066- Жыл бұрын
Great pure math explanations!
@tafadzwachigumbu4276 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good presentation. Thank you sir.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sakangbenjamin7 ай бұрын
Always on point sir God bless for your impactation
@hiderr6805 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video! Thank you so much! So cool, the only source I found using only elementary methods...
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kemumawhitney54392 жыл бұрын
Your classes are enjoyable
@muwememwanza38153 жыл бұрын
Great video just learned something new
@okeuwechue92388 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Thnx. An alternative explanation would also be expressing the natural exponential function as a Taylor series expansion and then differentiating each individual term to show that the resultant expression is the same as the original series
@PrimeNewtons8 ай бұрын
That would not be from first principle, though.
@okeuwechue92388 ай бұрын
True :-)@@PrimeNewtons
@randalltucker9343 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, sir! Great video!
@tcmxiyw10 ай бұрын
I think your explanations are beautiful, but when you say something like “the limit of the function is the function of the limit”, please justify it by saying “because the function is continuous”. It is interesting to note that the derivative of f(x)=e^x at any point can be found once we know f’(0).
@icafe364852 жыл бұрын
Hi Master, I enjoy your teaching method💐🌹👏
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@punditgi Жыл бұрын
My first principle is to always watch Prime Newtons! 🥰
@masoudhabibi700 Жыл бұрын
Thank for one more time.... master
@binhql Жыл бұрын
Great! You've just made by day :D Appreciate it a lot.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@theeligator87287 ай бұрын
thank you sooo much i love your positivity! keep going +1 follower gonna recommend to my peers.
@tfdtfdtfd2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video avoiding the unelegant definition of e as the "eh-1" limit......we should probably add a few technical details about the existence of limits when you split into products, ratios, swap order of ln and lim.....these generally hold true here due to continuity
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extra notes. Appreciated!
@muzza881Ай бұрын
I like to use the series expansion of exp(x) for this. Then exp(x+h) = 1+(x+h)+(x+h)^2/2! +........... Exp(x+h)-exp(h) term by term gives 1-1 + x+h-x + 0.5(x^2+2hx+h^2-x^2) + ........ Subtracting, dividing by h, and taking the limit gives us back exp(x). I suppose you can claim that the definition of the Taylor series already used derivatives to all orders of exp(x).
@barthennin6088 Жыл бұрын
It appears to be a circular argument. ln(e^x)=x and e^ln(x)=x
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Lol. That's what a lawyer would say. In mathematics, they are called inverse functions.
@nemo5619 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous video, hats off!
@Aferz Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
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@patelharsh51333 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir
@shcottam Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is pretty sick
@Bob-sq7ev7 ай бұрын
Thank you sir this helped me a lot ❤❤❤
@K-drama-LegendKing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for not using circular logic this makes so much sense the video is amazing, i would love to check your other videos although i know the the derivatives but the way you explained this one im excited to see the other derivatives
@user-dp9yn7zf4l11 ай бұрын
Amazing video, first time learn the derivative of e^x this well! I have a question, when we taking the reciprocal, do we need to show that the denominator is not zero (at about 7:45)?
@123886962 жыл бұрын
Well done
@馬瑞基3 жыл бұрын
It is so helpful
@ΛαζαροςΙωαννιδης-φ5υ7 ай бұрын
Bravo. Perfect.
@atri52802 жыл бұрын
ॐनमःशिवाय 🙏
@ukidding10 ай бұрын
you have v nice writing
@PrimeNewtons10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@komalshah1535 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic sir!
@JulesMoyaert_photo11 ай бұрын
Nice demo!
@the_n_ecromancer7 ай бұрын
"you see that? That makes life a lot easier"😂😂😂
@sergiolucas38 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you're very didactic and your letters are quite pretty as well, thank you :)
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TofaraRungano10 ай бұрын
Culculas simplified ❤
@nievalesterloydp.7399 Жыл бұрын
Ang angas
@HelloBillyyu3 ай бұрын
Hi I have just watched the video. Great work! Many thanks. Can I explore another approach here? We could find the Maclaurin series of e^h and it is be 1 + h + h^2 / 2 … then (e^h - 1) / h = 1 + h^3/2 + … then the limit of this is 1 if h goes to 0. This method is generally applicable to many ‘nasty’ limit calculations. Happy to chat. Cheers!
@PrimeNewtons3 ай бұрын
Yes, that's an option. However, this video was to highlight first principles.
@paulwood34606 ай бұрын
Excellent proof. 👏👏👏👍👍 just one criticism..before starting the the proof of derivative e^x just state the fact that (lim n->0 (1+n)^1/n) = e Mathematics is simply wonderful.
@robertveith63834 ай бұрын
The exponent, 1/n, must be inside grouping symbols: (1 + n)^(1/n)
@paulwood34604 ай бұрын
@@robertveith6383 surely you mean (1+n)^1/n 😀
@znhait Жыл бұрын
This is excellent work. I'm wondering if there isn't an easier way...or just a more obvious to come up with this limit. Otherwise, the definition of e could have been used a lot earlier.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@Pauladam22163 жыл бұрын
Nice
@reddottgamer30472 жыл бұрын
Finnally earth become a livable place.
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem2 жыл бұрын
You are hilarious 😂
@Rayglobster Жыл бұрын
This is perfect
@geraldomelo275111 ай бұрын
The l'hopital theorem can also be applied.
@durjoysaha28965 ай бұрын
That helps a lot❤
@_cran10 ай бұрын
I know you mostly do calc but can you make a video about fourier series/transform-inverse transform and a video about laplace transform-inverse transform? It'd be pretty educating I think since I just know the logic of it's graph I know it's formula but I don't understand how or why it works to just integrate something with e^-ikx then re-integrate it with e^ikx shapes the function in a different way
@mazenzidieh11 ай бұрын
Thanks alot
@CarolineSikamoi-rh7iv Жыл бұрын
Encourage though small writings make them more clear atleast
@СергейКовалев-т1д6м6 ай бұрын
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@shivankargupta6675 Жыл бұрын
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@ThenSaidHeUntoThem3 жыл бұрын
Coool!
@yigitrefikguzelses291 Жыл бұрын
When we are dealing with lim n->0 1/(ln(1+n)^(1/n) isn't this expression undefined because we have 1/n in the expression. I will be so happy if you can help me
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
n is not 0 yet. We are just approaching 0. So the function is not undefined and you should not plug in zero into the function because then it will be erratic. Try sketching that in desmos and see what happens as you approach zero. 😉
@yigitrefikguzelses291 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons yeah its say approxirametly 2.718 so it's e but aren't we getting different result while approching from negative infinity,(by the way thank you for your respond)
@kaboflotv6455 Жыл бұрын
What about y=sin(×+1) from first differentiation??kindly asking
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I have to a video for sin x. Use the same idea.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Same exact process. You'll get cos(x+1)
@JessicaShaw-ym4vc9 ай бұрын
Hi! where does the definition of e in terms of n come from? thank you. your video was great :)
@dr.rahulgupta75732 жыл бұрын
Sir. Can we use the definition of e^h to simplify ( e^h --1)/h and then take the limit ?
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
Certainly. That would be highly recommended.
@dr.rahulgupta75732 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons Yes Sir .
@fardowsakhalif6669 Жыл бұрын
M.Allah
@fardowsakhalif6669 Жыл бұрын
Shugran
@hypothesisnyc9162 жыл бұрын
Your teaching style is great but it bugs me that you're using implication symbols as though they are equal signs. For students to know the difference between "equals" and "implies" makes a big difference in their understanding of proofs.
@PrimeNewtons2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I promise to never do that again. Could you suggest a replacement for doing my transition without using the implication symbol.
@GiftMlinde3 ай бұрын
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@anestismoutafidis457510 ай бұрын
It stays as it is= e^x, except for x we put numbers ( N○ - C)
@aftabahmed70182 ай бұрын
will smith teaches maths
@petechen79411 ай бұрын
It's not difficult. You may use the definition of derivative to do it. You may also do it by using ln .
@sochegeorge7962 Жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain the move at 9:32
@sochegeorge7962 Жыл бұрын
Should have added if n = 23, (1/23)*ln(24) is NOT equal to Ln(24)^(1/23)
@justinnwachukwu2054 Жыл бұрын
Write your number on the board. I appreciated your teaching style
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
My guy, I no fit write my number for blackboard na! Wetin be dat?