Homelander Makes Frank Get in the Oven | The Boys | Prime Video

[@joeillingworth5867]

Saddest part is not one of the scientists showed any remorse for what they did to Homelander. They only apologized when their life’s were on the line

[@boogboog8097]

Seems a bit like the covid experiment.....😮

[@offbrandfiji6487]

I doubt it would have mattered

[@themaker2149]

​@@offbrandfiji6487 it might have not saved them but it may have mattered in the long term

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

There's a flaw in your thinking. It implies that if you apologize earlier than that, it will be ethically superior. Or maybe it would be better somehow. Or maybe less cruel, somehow? Instead, it would attract his attention. And Homelander likes to rip the wings off of the flies he's paying attention to.

[@brybry6669]

Just like everyone.

[@atraina6921]

For Homelander, it was years of nightmares and trauma. For Frank, it was a Tuesday. Crazy how sides of stories happen like this in real life.

[@tobishades]

Now it's the other way round

[@Magmava]

​@@Sirzhukov I read "For frank, it was a Tuesday" on like 5 different comments. It's getting kinda annoying

[@ihatedaviddobrik9999]

Bro you’re just stealing what u saw on other videos 😂

[@Raaz8080]

@@Magmava Fr bruh its getting on my nerves how stupid these people are they should have known that it was clearly a Wednesday

[@HolyknightVader999]

OF COURSE.

[@ArthurEverling]

Funnily enough, this is the most deep human emotion Homelander has ever let himself genuinely express.

[@Lance37a]

He seemed to feel bad for killing Black Noir.

[@emmanuel4989]

@@Lance37a Black Noir mentored him, wasn't afraid of him, and the closest thing he had to a friend in the 7. Finding out Noir kept secret he had a father all these years must have hurt him a lot.

[@HolyknightVader999]

That's the point. He's giving the human side of himself some closure so he can leave it behind for good.

[@ssh1487]

He got pretty welled up when Soldier Boy lamented not having been able to raise him... Just before he called him a weak ass pussy

[@hughmungus8340]

Yeah, I'd say that him missing that final shot is an indicator he's emotional about it.

[@oess855]

This is yet another reminder that Vought is the true villain of the Boys, they literally made homelander into what he is today and they're responsible for 99% of all the bad things that happened.

[@Taospark]

Homelander could have turned out far worse or not even survived.

[@rasimovungernsternberg300]

@@Taosparkwhat can get worse than this even if they go with the route of “homelander could have been dealt a worse hand than what we actually got” he would go on the path of exacting his revenge and subsequent vengeance on humanity. He was always cruel and never understood what humanity stood for, because he only saw humanity through the scope of violence.

[@oess855]

@@Taospark and would've probably turned out great like superman if he was raised properly by loving parents

[@wolfsoldner9029]

Sadly this shows narrative shifted towards framing right wingers.

[@geistescrashednana933]

Of course its their fault. Ppl are not born with that kind of character. I'm actually surprised how civilized homelaner is when you think about what vought did to him. Just compare him to sam from gen v who is an actual maniac after a similar experience

[@igor_chaska]

vought basically made homelander the strongest supe on the outside but also the most mentally broken man on the inside

[@ericluo28]

ye its said later on in the same episode that vought hired a ton of psychologists to make homelander dependent on adoration and love

[@jabrondestoroyah]

They could have avoided ALL OF THIS by giving him a normal home. Yes his parents would be fake like the ones from Irredeemable but he would still be a human being. Then again it would make this show too much like Irredeemable but oh well

[@hell1942]

​@@ericluo28can't imagine that worked out too well

[@ericluo28]

@@hell1942 it worked out great for vought the corporation. the strongest supe in the world dependent on the love and adoration of people who have no other way to hurt him. HL was scared of stan edgar the normal human. for 20-30 years HL was pretty compliant when their last iteration(soldier boy) had to be kidnapped and shipped off to the russians. obviously not great for the scientists here but vought doesnt care

[@bullymaguire4431]

Vogal bomb realised that after seeing how sick homelander was . That's why he let rayan to stay with his mother in a loving environment not in lab like his dad

[@DigitalMorph07]

That “Hey, Frank…” delivery was awesome. Dude knew he was toast

[@mikerryan85]

Figuratively and literally…

[@hideous_taco_michael_zacki]

A burned toast, I should add.

[@BoxofMadness]

he wouldn't be toast, he would have his name changed to cole

[@iantaggart3064]

You didn't have to deliver such a sick burn like that.

[@kapitankapital6580]

"I was just doing my job" is probably the worst thing he could have said in this circumstance - it was invalidating Homelander's trauma.

[@thedifferent14]

Yep, and he was denying responsibility for inflicting that trauma. In every one of these storylines, the scientists love to act like they didn't have a choice except to participate and it's almost NEVER true. I'd love to see how much money Homelander's suffering was worth to this guy.

[@ryanwalsh5019]

​@@thedifferent14no one wants to think they are the bad guy. At most they think they are doing a necessary evil to prevent some worse alternative.

[@humanity_moment.]

​@@ryanwalsh5019 Necessary evil, yeah right. One of the few necessary evils in fiction are organizations like the SCP Foundation, and that HEAVILY depends on the canon because most of the time they are reprehensibly evil.

[@taratron8570]

if he had said anything else. like, he did it for his son, and vought was the only one who would pay for his surgery. that Frank didn't want to hurt another kid, but Homelander has a son. he would do anything to help him. not that that would have spared Frank's life, but it might have made Homelander agree.

[@scubadivingadventures1]

Frank be like “Oh come on! Everybody knows that stupid oven isn’t real”

[@fernandodecarlosmalcher7977]

I love how the scientists looking away and saying nothing to the awful things that homelander is doing perfectly mirrors how the same thing happened to him as a child, they all stood by and did nothing when this kid was being tortured, the whole, "we were just doing our job" is no excuse in this case

[@Taospark]

On the one hand, they were all just one person who couldn't have gotten him out or stopped things but on the other hand, they were paid and benefited every day from designing the perfect corporate superhero. Godwin's Law might seem too easy a comparison but with the "just doing my job" excuse and a literal oven, I think the show intended to evoke how we might feel towards Mengele or the demented people that weren't armed guards actually running the overhead of the death camps on a daily basis.

[@AgentofChaos315]

Granted in this case, their excuse is "he'll kill us too if we try to do anything"

[@kasm7870]

@@AgentofChaos315Barbara implies Vought would do the same.

[@Warcodered01]

Well a bunch of them do seem young enough to have likely not been there when this specifically happened, but still the ones that were still did the same thing.

[@dodoarks3186]

same excuse used during the nuremberg trials

[@shiftaside]

The guy who called in sick must feel like a million dollers now.

[@meraculus-zn3zx]

ah yes dollers, nicee i love my "dollers"

[@omegaomg175]

Yeah pal we know you took this from someone else

[@Narc0YT]

It was Barbara who called in Sick who came back towards the end of the episode as far as I understood

[@jakegarman4526]

Imagine being in the bathroom the whole time.

[@Springerzzz]

stolen comment

[@deadgiveaway-z3i]

No wonder Homelander is a narcissistic sociopath, he's literally gone through the most pain anyone has ever experienced, since he can essentially stay in a furnace for hours without any damage to his nerves, just hellish torment on earth.

[@thebyrdcage8619]

Yeah, now I'm kinda rooting for him to destroy all of vought.

[@maverickmurphy]

Right? He had a severely traumatic childhood. No wonder he turned into this.

[@ck5004k]

Literal definition of hell.

[@claytonalert4560]

​@@davidnelson7607Don't be like that bro, your comparing a grown man to a child.

[@maverickmurphy]

@@davidnelson7607 it's definitely worse if it's done to a kid. Childhood is the years when the personality develops. Adults process trauma very differently.

[@Hellkite-er5pg]

I have been at the mercy of "men just following orders", never again. - Magneto I was just doing my job. - Frank

[@wolfsoldner9029]

Everybody is a redditor now.

[@Dalex1910]

only Magneto cared for others and even if flawed wanted whats best for his people. Homelander is a just a narcissistic sociopath.

[@uci-fer5825]

Homeland Was Right!!!

[@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCC7]

bro thought "yeah others like me will find this deep" LOOOL

[@17-MASY]

​@@imposteramogus2167So what? Media is inspired by real life

[@HBarnill]

This was never about revenge. This was about Homelander trying to kill whatever humanity he has left in him, which means he thinks destroying his past will solve that. His traumas, emotions, he feels he can eradicate. Instead, at the end of the day, he only proved how human he really is.

[@Not_so_chill_guy]

You know I had to think about it but yea your right

[@Know3ody]

On the other hand...... he realised that humans don't have humanity themselves sp why treat them like they do 👍

[@dongtrope]

@@Know3odyNo, I’m pretty sure he sees most humans as humans, but because he thinks he’s a god he deems them lower and insignificant and refuses to share any of the qualities that makes humans well…human.

[@Know3ody]

@@dongtrope not in this scene.

[@iskaroth]

No, its not that deep. HL is a violent, petty psychopath, this was revenge, nothing else.

[@John-uh5et]

Homelander doesn't deserve vengeance, but John does.

[@JustArei]

Tf is the difference tho

[@magnumdopest9161]

@@JustArei John meaning Homelander when he was a kid. He didn't do anything to deserve what he went through. WhereasHomelander as an adult is a monster so he doesn't really deserve a chance at revenge or betterment.

[@wrongcountry2528]

😊😅🎉 1:42 ​@@JustArei

[@daninduthiwankadhanawardha515]

Well, they both are the same. But different ages😂

[@Homie-boi]

They are the same person tho

[@winterspirit3734]

You're sorry? Now? Why? Because now I'm a threat. -Syndrome

[@lesROKnoobz]

Beautiful line by syndrome too.

[@co7769]

You know, it's amazing how there would be no homelander or syndrome if the adults around hadn't been the worst

[@themoocow7718]

Fits perfectly. “15 years too late” - Syndrome

[@jesusheals72]

40 years to late

[@lonewanderer1328]

Syndrome was already sick to begin with. The movie showed us that he NEVER saw reality and was delusional from the start. Incredible never was mean to syndrome, syndrome’s delusions made him think so

[@SirsasthNigam.]

2:15 that really got me Soldier Boy has it better because he was tortured and experimented as an adult but Homelander was experimented from his birth No wonder he is Mentally ill

[@thefoeofdrip1184]

Crazy how both the father and son were tortured in labs around the same period of time

[@AFK_SLAYER]

Soldier Boy is also a sociopath

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

Their stories are so greatly paralleled. Soldier Boy wanted a son but before he could realize the truth he was abducted and experimented on. As Soldier Boy was already being cruelly tortured in Russia, Homelander was born and from the moment he was born he was an experiment. Homelander always wanted a father but his father was taken and he never knew the truth, just like his father, and both men were forever shaped by the trauma and horror of their experiences. I wish we got to see more of what they did to Soldier Boy in Russia, and maybe we could even see Soldier Boy hunt down some of the head scientists who experimented on him and make them suffer, but I doubt that will happen.

[@AyKrax]

​@JohnWall-lj1mxye it sucks Solider Boy always wanted to be the father his father never was only to find out his son turned worse than him in his absence

[@rileygladue3979]

@@AFK_SLAYER Soldier Boy is only a douchebag, if he was a sociopath he'd go out of his way to kill but so far he's only killed when he was given a reason or provoked, Homelander has a genuine hatred of humanity because of what happened to him as a kid

[@magnummagnusen]

you know something bad is going to happen if some one in a prime original says "i forgive you"

[@Troyy22]

When was the last time this happened?

[@mont9150]

i really thought marty gonna live because hes a good guy

[@RonPaul42069]

What other show did this happen in?

[@user-nr5xp6yd8z]

@@Troyy22 i think it was in that show about c

[@carnage0685]

@@user-nr5xp6yd8z c?

[@owenleal]

Its crazy how well the actors played the scientists. You really can believe that it never even occured to them that what they did to Homelander was wrong. Look at Frank, even as he is escorted into an oven, there is no sense of panic or survival instinct. He is totally shocked and baffled by Homelander's revelation that years of torture and neglect might have had a bit of a negative impact on him actually. That "I'm sorry..." is so chilling. Its the kind of sorry you give to a friend when they admit that a joke you told that they laughed off at the time actually hurt their feelings. They arent moustache twirling villains. They are gaumless employees. For them those years of Homelander's childhood were just a couple years at the office. And when John comes back for revenge, they really can't believe it. Everyone in this sequence is really terrifying.

[@markusjohnson6558]

It's the kind of reaction you would expect from Nazi doctors, they are the type of people to put a child through horrific pain so they can't feel remorse or empathy in the same way a regular person would if at all Frank got off quite easy in terms of suffering, Homelander as a child was kept in there for hours and put through other equally painful experiments for years whereas he died within minutes

[@knetic491]

There was a term for this - "Little Eichmanns" (or "the banality of evil"). Eichmann was a dull office worker, but his job was to coordinate camps. He just nodded along to the news, voted the popular way, clocked in, got promotions, did what he was told.

[@oliverfa08]

Antony Starr as Homelander is the best thing about The Boys for me, amazing actor

[@josiahgonzalez942]

Surprised someone in this community actually spelled his name right for once

[@coletrain583]

Imagine what he would as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin.

[@TheFunnyGuy9000]

@@coletrain583or Reverse Flash

[@river7874]

If you like him in this, then you should check out Banshee. He's incredible as Lucas Hood.

[@SicketMog]

This season worth watching? I heard the showrunners is a POS, that it went woke, and that it's now effected by TDS seeping into the story (saw signs of that last season). Is it THAT bad? Downloaded the comics recently; better to drop the show and go with those?

[@BaLLHands87]

Homelanders "your turn" can be taken both ways after what he said lol

[@treroney4720]

I never thought about that

[@vineetsingh3681]

"Use it or lose it marty " Homelander 🗿

[@jayy24195]

your life is literally in your hands😭😂

[@Rorywizz]

more spit marty

[@Jerry-tg7zx]

Atta boy!

[@KamenRider1]

​@@Jerry-tg7zx COME ON! PUT YOUR F-CKING BACK INTO IT!

[@mojojoji5493]

His childhood was basically literal hell, standing in a pit of fire, burning…and you just can’t die, but you can feel the fire burning

[@ThatGUY666666]

Homelander is a great character. He is utterly vile and yet his origins and what was done to him make me sympathize and feel sorry for him on some level. To be clear it in NO way excuses his crimes as an adult but it does make him understandable on at least some level. Had he been raised in a decent family environment, I think there is a very real chance he could have been a good man. All that said, I think most if not all of us were Team Homelander in this one instance. "It is the nature of men to create monster and it is the nature of monsters to destroy their creators" -Harlan Wade, F.E.A.R.

[@nelsondu2333]

I mean, after this episode he's extremely understandable on any level. People who still think the kind of monster he is and the things he does are just Homelander being inherently evil after seeing this completely lack perspective.

[@TeachMeHow2Douglas]

The quote makes me think of the novel Frankenstein.

[@ThatGUY666666]

@@TeachMeHow2Douglas I can see why it would. Crazy enough, Harlan Wade makes even Victor Frankenstein look good by comparison.

[@mappingshaman5280]

Personally, even though it will require either his death, the end of the series or both, I can't wait for the vile eye to make a video analysing homelander

[@Wen6543]

However Homelander hardly can be categorized as a monster since he is a complete looney, his brain never had the chance of a normal development after that massive torture he suffered for many years when he was growing. In any case he belongs to a mental institution.

[@jaybrewer3990]

Imagine being in a room with a number of people, eating ice cream cake, then realizing you're not leaving the room alive, and there's nothing you can do to change that outcome.

[@Jaiden_Anime_Shuns]

Florida schools when the quiet kid has had enough

[@OfficialDKJ]

Anyone with balls, no pun intended, could have spoke up and confessed or maybe make an attempt. They all just stood frozen accepting their fate. Even after Frank died

[@Marcelelias11]

​@@OfficialDKJIf they had said "balls", they wouldn't let John suffer like he did. They were either evil or cowards, every last one of them.

[@gameace999_]

@@OfficialDKJThe guy who tried to speak up got his balls lasered off its obvious why they didn’t try to stop Homelander

[@TwinsProductions69]

​​@@OfficialDKJI mean... What would you do in that situation? Homelander already sealed their fate when he entered that room. Not much they can do. They were not prepared nor had any contingency plan, which is dumb on their part for not having one.

[@navinkv265]

Rarely do characters make me tense even though i know exactly what they are gonna do, and Homelander takes the cake in that department

[@terry.1428]

Fudgie the Whale cake

[@lunarskygacha9036]

He took the cake, alright. Poor Fudgie...

[@gapedandamazed6988]

3:19 That "Why?" sounds so heartbreaking. It sounds like Homelander is about to burst into tears.

[@romofan8881]

I really love the demented look Homelander gives every time someone from his childhood tries to apologize to him, going back to Vogelbaum in season 1. They threw a child into an oven. They're only sorry Homelander remembered it.

[@S.D.323]

I think Vogelbaum really was sorry these guys though not so much

[@gabeitch9142]

​@@S.D.323vogelbaum was sorry, yeah.

[@GISALEGENDYT]

Just dark in every sense of the word, Homelander really showing how much darker he's getting and feel slowly taking care of everything and everyone, genuinely something else on what they have built here with Antony Starr.

[@raven4k998]

have your tears ever sizzled?

[@hiveemperor54]

“See? NOW you respect me, because I’m a threat.” - Syndrome

[@DaneelGiskard-f8d]

"he wasn't born a monster; he was made into one through years of systematic abuse" - Dr Hannibal Lecter.

[@S.D.323]

funny enough that describes Hannibal himself in a way

[@DaneelGiskard-f8d]

@@S.D.323 Quite so.

[@Playmaker251000]

Dude is so sorry that he kept working for the same company that had him do it in the 1st place

[@raven4k998]

not anymore because he's dead JIM🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@truffle6082]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@lordzuzu6437]

The psychological manipulation to make him unable to escape torture is the most scary part. No wonder he hates humanity yet doesn't want to be hated by them.

[@crazycat482]

Hating humanity, at least as I see it, is not justifiable in absolutely any way. Unless literally everybody tortures you, you can't hate all people. Its like if you wanted to enslave or kill all dogs just because one bit you when u were a child

[@certifiedben6376]

Honestly if I was homelander I'd hate the world and since I have the power to destroy it why not?

[@wymg4480]

@@crazycat482thats true. but i think its the fact he was never raised as a person that he believed himself as something different. which in a way he was. and that rage and disgust towards these select ppl have been targeted towards them all bcuz in his mind all ppl r the same if these scientists vud exist among humanity. its a twisted logic but its also very normal in a strange way.

[@jesusheals72]

Well said

[@accidentalmadness1708]

@@crazycat482oooh somebody had it easy

[@zeejay-junejo]

1:57 there, right there, thats where his fuse blew off. He picked the worst thing to say. That's like a bully saying "hey bro I was just kidding" while he is getting beat up by the victim.

[@spiderman20874]

Fun fact, this wasnt in the script, Anthony starr just forced him in the oven and no one wanted to challenge him

[@EdwardHernandez-ri1ib]

Wow people still do this unoriginal comment

[@themetalmario77]

@@EdwardHernandez-ri1ibActually this is fact checked

[@fffmcfff9112]

it's true and funny so it will keep happening. cry more​@@EdwardHernandez-ri1ib

[@gideonbrown4215]

Wonder if this is why Homelander favors his heat vision: to make others feel his pain.

[@Scrumcum]

That would make sense actually

[@Punggles]

I think he’s also just lazy

[@Stitchpuppy01]

It’s the most convenient attack he has. Don’t dig too deep into it.

[@SchizoCannibal]

​@@Stitchpuppy01 it's good to have discussions like this.

[@hboogy101]

@@SchizoCannibal agreed

[@rawkguy4896]

2:06 This is one of the most important lines in the entire series. Anyone who's grown up either severely bullied or in an abusive home can completely identify with this. Someone's cruelty can shape who you are as a person, but the perpetrator never pays any mind to what they're doing.

[@failfiend6007]

Homelander: if you win you can clock off early and see the family Also homelander: but I didn’t say what will happen if you lose…

[@Green-sf4qw]

And the fact that Homelander missed his last shot on purpose and said that he would've won makes it more cruel

[@justanotherguy1782]

Even if Frank did win, Homelander would still kill him. But in this case, he'll track Frank and his family down and kill them all.

[@truffle6082]

I think 😂 Homelander would have let him go the point was he couldn’t survive the oven the same way homelander did as a child. 😂😂😂

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

I love how Homelander spit the "just doing your job" line back in his face. You cant say it wasnt your fault and then beg for forgiveness.

[@KaijuDinoLover26727]

"See now you respect me because im a threat thats the way it works"- An alternate version of homelander to that alternate version of Frank

[@llGyddyll-rm1ft]

The incredibles.

[@co7769]

Unfortunate that the world is like that

[@VincentSilva-v9h]

@@co7769but it’s great when we meet people who aren’t running a race, but taking the ride of life. Those are the ones that never die.

[@pleasedontfailusproduction1968]

Im proud of homelander, forgiving people is a hard but it's about doing it for your own mental health, good to see homelanders finally taking care of his mental well being

[@anzhnd5873]

im pretty sure most people would think homelander is kinda of justified here , these people tortured a kid every day

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Only the 3 older people, The other scientists where all new guys

[@arizmation2558]

​@@jesusramirezromo2037they still put compound V into babies

[@usdtisallineed]

​@@jesusramirezromo2037so what? Normal people wouldn't work there.

[@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom]

​@@usdtisallineedBecca worked on the tower 🙂🥖🇨🇵

[@usdtisallineed]

@@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom she didnt experimented on childs. And maybe she wasnt as good as we think.

[@yashsoni7614]

Can't believe it's 4 seasons already and still he didn't got an Emmy for his Legendary acting🔥🔥💯

[@ao2415]

That's for The Deep!

[@abbasshachem3383]

It's streaming show and owned by Jeff bezos so I don't think the Emmy will acknowledge the show

[@josiahgonzalez942]

Emmys and Oscars are rigged popularity contests. Bod odenkirk never got an emmy either

[@BoBnfishy]

They're like 4 episodes in to s4, he can't win an award for that yet

[@munken7673]

@@abbasshachem3383 game of Thrones has won Emmys

[@thewok5859]

I love the interaction at 3:08, Homelander is almost baffled at this vain attempt at redemption - he's not sorry, he hasn't been sorry for 30 years hes lived a normal happy life blissfully ignorant of the pain hes caused a child. Only now when he is confronted and put on deaths door step does he plead to say hes sorry and only to save himself from the repercussions of his actions

[@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine]

He's not "baffled", it's sarcasm. Deus Ex is awesome, btw.

[@bradmace6144]

@@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarineit's clearly both. He disgusting his baffled attempt with sarcasm.

[@MrJmanrey]

“Only now at the end do you understand”

[@siddharthavicious108]

Pre-heat time on that oven's fantastic.

[@Akodakun]

Could use me one of those

[@Kayoss13212]

Idk about the comics, but I can’t help but wonder if the writers might’ve actually hinted at Homelanders weakness with that comment about the fire?

[@naufalmEZa]

​@@Kayoss13212not really, it just implies that even though his body is near indestructible, his nervous system's still quite... Normal, if anything, his supersenses might amplify the pain receptors.

[@ScarFlame]

The "Oven" was at least 1400 degrees fahrenheit; that is why Frank's body incinerated that fast.....

[@oldcat1790]

The matter itself has its limits when it comes to resisting heat, at some point any material just melts and vaporises - ofc if we talk about real physics, not DC.

[@chazzdanger6912]

Watching the eyes pop in the reflection is absolutely brutal

[@carolineyuen3247]

"I can never unsee that nasty shit!" -Mother's Milk

[@johnpage5005]

Oh for sure. That was probably the most disturbing and haunting thing I've ever witnessed 😬.

[@znaj7335]

2:40 love with how much childish glee he says "Get in the oven Frank" it's so amazingly psychopathic.

[@classicgames3191]

Squirt: John why don’t we- “Homelander” 🗿 💀 💀

[@doti6533]

I love him it's a very interesting character we never got to see on the big screen 🎉

[@highwind8124]

1:27 - I love that reaction shot of the doctor realizing they aren't getting out of there alive.

[@electricsheep1211]

How to deal with childhood trauma Google: Seek help, consider therapy Bing:

[@Dhomden]

Rare Bing W

[@S.D.323]

Based

[@faisalkamal4319]

Google just swallow it Bing is where's your rage

[@joshuafreeman3609]

I almost feel like if Frank had better apologized right there, Homelander might have stopped? I don’t know if that was the intention, but the way he stopped when Frank said ‘I was just doing my job’ made me think that somewhere, deep down, Homelander’s desire for affection might have overcome his anger. He also seems a bit more choked up after that line too, like he’s struggling to process how little it _actually_ mattered to Frank. EDIT: none of you 'He killed the other guy for a nickname!!!!!' people are worth replying to. Homelander is definitely known for making perfectly logical decisions, they're never based on his volatile emotions and insecurities. I was commenting on my interpretation of the acting, not the actual intention of the scene.

[@ericluo28]

no, he then goes to murder the other old guy in the scene for giving him an embarrassing nickname even though HL acknowledged that dude was mostly nice to him

[@AyKrax]

​@@ericluo28imagine him walking into room "have fun in their squirt" and the room erupts in laughter before he's thrown in another torture chamber. Everyday 24/7💀

[@markusjohnson6558]

​@@ericluo28That man was just as evil as the rest of them

[@carljohnson621]

You'd think that after lasering Marty's privates just because he laughed at him ONCE he wouldn't show any mercy towards the guy that actively tried to cook him alive, no matter how much he begged or cried.

[@ericluo28]

@@markusjohnson6558 th point is the guy who set hl on fire is not getting out just cus he had a better apology lmfao

[@raydgreenwald7788]

Homelander really is the definition of "I'd feel sorry for you if you hadn't caused so much suffering"

[@kyloluma]

3:12 The acting here is just incredible. The microexpressions and tone of voice are perfect

[@madln5070]

bro legits moves his eyebrows like 1mm, its crazy

[@kyloluma]

@@madln5070 yhhh. Also that little twitch after the "why?" Is actually perfect

[@josiahgonzalez942]

​​@@kylolumahes really good at facial expression acting lol. even though thats not a thing you know what i mean... 😅

[@madln5070]

@@kyloluma yeah, he looks incredibly sad but also really angry for a second.

[@spencerreid2086]

its Heart-breaking tbh the way Antony delivers the lines makes him seem like he's kinda Reverted back to being a Hurt child for a couple of seconds before Regaining his composure and shutting the Door.

[@kainkabil6393]

Homelander's shaky voice when he heard Franks sorry. he waited a genuine apology from someone probably for years and never came

[@gabeitch9142]

Yeah. He was genuinely shaken up, because part of him wanted it to be true. The sliver if humanity.

[@Catergory5Hurricane]

"I was just doing my job" Fun fact: that's an analog to "I was just following orders", which was the legal defense Nazi SS enforcers used at the 1946 Nuremberg Trial

[@lamarpray5324]

1:10 “and then you turned up the temperature…to see if it would burn my skin 😄” 😢

[@dinorex3464]

Antony Starr is an incredible actor. The amount of emotions he manages to convey while sticking true to the facade is breathtaking.

[@NighDarke]

The crazy thing is he was powerful enough to just break out of that place and leave any time he wanted to.

[@AlkiosAvainash]

I doubt it mind you it was Homelander when he was young but I bet when he was old enough he could which is why they began to put his hands into a furnace instead of having him break out. And I bet even if he did, he would be severely punished

[@ericluo28]

@@AlkiosAvainash the director of this place literally says he could've broken out whenever

[@carljohnson621]

Barbara said it so herself but his mind was quite literally engineered to crave love and approval so desperately that he would feel he is letting them down and disappointing them if he did.

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

​@@carljohnson621 Which is even worse, they literally brainwashed him into not leaving the facility

[@johndoe-x6c]

​@@AlkiosAvainash yeah i dont think that furnace could keep him inside

[@devinsapelli3814]

"I learned this game from you, Frank." Somehow the most chilling line in this whole scene

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I'd like to think that if Soldier Boy was there, he wouldn't have let Homelander be so cruelly experimented on.

[@LaManchalandsDonQuixote]

Imagine if while Homelander was still a child and in that oven, Soldier Boy breaks into the lab. Having learnt Homelander is his son...

[@kainholden2001]

Makes me wonder how john/homelander would've turned out if soldier boy was present in his life. I imagine he'd probably still be a piece of trash, but maybe he wouldn't be as psychotic as he is now.

[@eyeofbrown1387]

@@LaManchalandsDonQuixote Or not even knowing Homelander’s his son, he sees a child being tortured and puts a stop to it right there. No ulterior motive, but just saving a life because it’s the right thing to do. Something like this might have had the positive impact of not only Vought being exposed for their crimes, but Soldier Boy becoming a genuine hero, and John/Homelander having a positive role model and/or father figure he could look up to.

[@TheUraniumCore]

I loved the timing, how much tension it added for the viewers who didn't know what happened. "You were sitting there " hmm okay "And, well, I was in the oven here" Oh, that guy's gonna die.

[@denifnaf5874]

2:50 me meeting the guy who added letters to math:

[@Foxwolfred]

Crazy to think that there’s a whole room full of people worse than homelander and they aren’t even supes just plain ole humans

[@FinalCountdown-oz8pc]

3:06 halifax walmart be like

[@nandii_8850]

Nah wtf

[@BikerFan1989]

bro 💀

[@mr.knight2026]

The axe forgets but tree remembers.

[@darthuchiha1418]

What makes Homelander so terrifying is how his sadism knows no bounds, being insincerely cheerful and chummy to people not just to get them to drop their guard but to also toy with their emotions and relish making them realize something terrible is about to happen to them Antony definitely deserves some awards for this scene alone, he would be perfect to play Erwin or Zeke in a live action Attack on Titan movie or series

[@gabeitch9142]

Zeke moreso.

[@LixVox]

He displayed the insincere cheerfulness pretty well in 2:42 ngl

[@folieadeux147]

Zeke would show his range better but I don’t remember the first live action one being all too great. He may age out by the time it becomes relevant. It’s like how the fantastic four had to disappear for like a decade after fant4stic.

[@alexk9642]

2:36 I love how the guy in the back tries to save him, while everyone else is tense because they know they'll die, somehow one of the most realistic reactions I've seen

[@AFK_SLAYER]

3:40 Homelander was like holding the grudge for decades, and now he feels relieved.

[@MoviesandGroovies]

3:39 bro his face here. he couldn’t even keep up his staged bravado any longer. literally twitching and shaking with hateful rage

[@raven4k998]

well he's not quite there yet but give him times he's learning and growing as a monster trust me these things take time to develop your not a monstrous villain actor over night it takes years of hard work to develop those acting skills to be a master villain so give him time and you will see him grow into an amazing actor of villains

[@spand9043]

​@@raven4k998 what are you talking about? We are praising his acting here. Homelander in the show was keeping a friendly bravado to the scientists despite his violent intentions, but after getting his revenge that mask slipped for a second. Incredible portrayal by Anthony starr

[@theshootinterviewman]

a german in southern poland in 1944 (colourised): 2:45

[@InstaTubeReels]

Hey Jimmy, what’s the difference between a Frank and a pizza? The pizza don’t darn scream when you put it in the oven

[@philipk.lawrence]

"I was just doing my job". Yeah, but any sane person with a conscious would still know leaving a child burning in an oven for hours is still f**ked up Frank. Regardless if that very child is impervious and "it's your job".

[@gabeitch9142]

Crazy the cruelty 'normal' people are capable of. But I agree there is a lack of morals required to do that to a child. And to care so little, to be able to hear a childs bloodcurdling screams and play trashketball.

[@zeus-xk3px]

“Homelander you don’t have to-“ no he 100% Does

[@Kyuubi_AFK]

The fact that he kept calling him John

[@VincentSilva-v9h]

@@Kyuubi_AFKin an attempt to get him out of his homelander (powerful) self. Fails miserably, because the other self he invoked (John) was the tortured one.

[@kishanbhatt1206]

I never thought Antony Starr could surpass his own charisma and cruelty as Homelander. But he comes up with a new masterpiece every time. In this episode, he went off the rails!!! If he doesn't deserve an Emmy, idk who would. He's a SENSATION!

[@Fvghhcxssadhjnvvchjk]

After all, it is monsters that create monsters.

[@arecgos]

That actually doesn't justify the last ones anyway. Violence is always violence no matter what cause it's been provoked by.

[@AlkiosAvainash]

​@@arecgos But violence breeds violence

[@arecgos]

@@AlkiosAvainash not always. It takes person's will to comprehend what they feel and some knowledge to learn how express themselves in a healthy way without violence and abusing.

[@Miguelcervantesfan]

​@@AlkiosAvainash slippery little bastard!

[@AlkiosAvainash]

@brzhnx But when defending yourself or someone else, violence is needed. And sometimes vengeance is justice, not always it can go too far, but Vengeance, when looking back, was the earliest form of justice. Many people and some countries still hold thay value. What obscures the line between "justice" and "Vengeance". Is justice done by a court of law and Vengeance isn't? Or is justice rightful retribution?

[@jonathanchen1026]

Didn’t say sorry until he realized he was about to die

[@ApocalypticCrocodile]

Homelander is a horrible monster, but John was just a little boy, he didn't deserved to be turned into this. Still, Homelander deserves the worst that can happen to him now

[@joshualagrimas9555]

Even frank's "Sorry" doesn't sound remorseful, almost sounds like an act.

[@christianpetterson1784]

Love how his hand didn't hurt when he put it on scalding hot glass, it only hurt when it caught fire 😂

[@gameoveror7970]

As Frank was burning in the oven the music playing is the violin theme

[@Repr1mand]

Homelander may be a victim, but that doesn't mean he's not a villan.

[@jorgeblast9756]

we know that, but this incident lab is justified.

[@claremontcowboy7409]

@@jorgeblast9756 TIL: two wrongs make a right. lol.

[@simonO712]

​@@jorgeblast9756Understandable, yes. Justified, no.

[@jorgeblast9756]

@@simonO712 For me and some people, yes it is.

[@elidawkins9455]

⁠@@jorgeblast9756the way this show attracts weirdos like you is so ironic. Literally the type of people who would be rooting for homelander if he was real. Fucking crazy but I guess the nuance goes over a lot of y’all heads.. a shame…

[@ErikMationsReborn]

Take a second and appreciate you don’t live in a world like “The Boys” entirely 😮‍💨

[@readthiscomment6748]

The only real difference is vought and supes dont exist. Other stuff is only slightly exaggerated.

[@thebrognator3524]

Shit like this is happening in this very instant. Except the poor subjects die since they are not supes

[@ErikMationsReborn]

@@readthiscomment6748 That’s real..

[@AyKrax]

The only difference is Vought isn't called Vought and the superpowers are nuclear weapons & guns.

[@TheMissingDislikeButton]

The supes are the politicians irl tho

[@JayHomes-h7c]

“I was just following orders” you hear that a lot when people suddenly are held accountable.

[@AndrewLuppnow-i6j]

I knew a guy from Bulgaria. He was super-intelligent, with doctorates in Mathematics and Computer Science. But he had also been a 'guard' on the border between Greece and Bulgaria in Soviet times. He calmly stated that he and his colleague had been involved in 27 shooting incidents in which people had tried to flee to the West. Me: What was the age of the youngest person you shot? Him: There was a family with a three-year old, but I was jeest following orders!

[@JayHomes-h7c]

@ 🥺

[@kcbm225]

I like to think that the simple line "I was just doing my job" was what triggered him. Things could have gone differently with different words. But probably not.

[@priestofronaldalt]

The ax never remembers, and the tree never forgets.

[@TarnishedSaiyan02]

I absolutely love the little terrifying flashes of homelander(john)s past. It shows that just like us, he to struggles very deeply to cope with that kinda stuff cuz you simply wouldn't be able to. I like to think that by the time john turned 16 (when they showed homelanders growth heights for his ages) he was already crazy, and homelander developed as an alternate personality for him. We kinda see this through homelanders mirror scenes. His more humane emotions and feelings are getting pushed further away, while homelander, "the only man in the sky" remains

[@Ramanathan-z5n]

He could have simply broken out fom that oven room. No one is holding him

[@constableconstable2563]

It reminds you of the scenes where Homelander talks to himself in the mirror. It's not Homelander talking to Homelander it's Homelander talking to John, John represents the human part of him where the other represents his anger, rage, and hatred towards humanity for his torture.

[@myzamau428]

Those quick flashbacks showing him screaming (silently) in pain worked so well.

[@Zonewall]

Antony Starr is so good at all the little ticks and facial features that show homelander losing it and how psychotic hes becoming

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

Least homelander remembers his kills. For frank it was Tuesday

[@shivamjha5578]

The second kill was even more brutal

[@arthurjunior7241]

A real dick move

[@JadenAlexis]

Was it?! :l

[@xtravugant4245]

YOU GOT DICK BLOOD ON MY BOOTS MARTY MAWHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[@eriken8714]

Not in a million years

[@Sh1ryyu]

@RobertEdwinHouse9 he got his balls lasered tho

[@lightingmcqueen522]

I like how the flash backs come in like you would legitimately remember something in your head.

[@GhostFreaker]

I like how when Homelander says it's all a matter of perspective the perspective change is shown by showing change in camera angles thus also changing the viewers' " perspective"

[@CoreyCanuck]

This scene was beautifully crafted. The dialog, the setting, how the way it feels so natural and organic… this is some Tarantino sh*t! And Anthony Starr is an amazing actor. His mimics when Frank said “I was just doing my job”… Beautiful!

[@Lolthegameyoulostit]

Love the subtle violin playing in the background as Frank is being burned alive

[@kingkongchief1177]

Homelander is an example of how monsters create other monsters.

[@Philosophical24]

Phenomenal episode. Best episode of a television show I’ve seen in YEARS

[@yamidelacroix6729]

I just think about the fact that as his tears sizzled and the scientists took notes on his reactions that there was just a guy playing wastepaper basketball as he turns up the oven. It shows such detachment. It's chilling. Homelanders focus on that moment, watching this man do a fistpump in celebration, seeing such a casual thing being done during his pain, it feels like such a building block in his personality. Like it was an example he should follow almost subconsciously for his actions in the future.

[@MrArmystrong85]

So none of them ever thought that maybe it’s not the best long term plan to physically and psychologically torture a boy who is essentially Superman?

[@Goremejy]

I’m sure Vought would have just let them quit no questions asked 😂

[@wildcardwinner6219]

The level of sympathy i have for Homelander in this scene is incredible. Hats off to the writers

[@timmyfung01]

imagine the dude who took the day off from work... probably the best day off he ever have.

[@bigred913]

it’s moments like these that make you feel genuinely bad for homelander and sometimes it even feels like he’s justified in his rage, i love shows and movies like this that give you moral dilemmas and make you ask where the line is

[@KamalaChameleon]

"Get in the oven fank" and "Kentucky fried massacre" are two of my favorite lines ever 🤣🤣🤣 A+ writers!!

[@slimebuck]

as someone who was highly abused by people who did not care what so ever what they did to me afterwards, I fully understand homelander when he says "get in the oven" and wants the people who abused him to feel how they made him feel.