Prince Proposing and the Reality of "The Family"

[@strauqq1]

Eric Leeds, you are looking good. Will you please right a book. You have the most honest and in your face stories.

[@oldmanoz]

This is what I want to hear the pros and cons of Prince and his camp careers .No sugar coat just straightforward Don't get me wrong I love Prince and his music but I keep having arguments with my friends Because they keep saying hes God No hes Hes human That's very talented. A lot of people needs to hear this Some people don't understand you're not talking about Prince you just letting people know the things he had to do to stay on top.

[@agadoin]

Yes. Geniuses can be flawed people.

[@diamondintheback2329]

Preach Eric! Prrrreeeaaaaccchhhh. We love Prince, but he was absolutely controlling. We love Prince, but we know what was up.

[@rexxgarvin5313]

Prince and Women. He was Magic, An Artist, Talented, Evil, Nasty, Beautiful, Funky, Gifted and More. It was too Much. Prince was married to ''Music''. That was his woman.....Music

[@marwatertier1040]

100% agree 👍👍

[@rexxgarvin5313]

@@marwatertier1040 Indeed

[@nancypatricia511]

Susannah has is lightbulb moment realizing that all of these amazing musicians were simply hires and how could Prince expect them to not be autonomous musicians that would want to grow and contribute to their own careers? That really is the crux around the Lisa and Wendy team. Of course the were going to want to write and contribute. But Prince was not going to have that. You were actor/musicians playing a role. I think that is why he saw himself as a film maker.

[@speakezi5346]

"Loverboy method"?

[@deborahswart1718]

Prince sounds like your classic artistic genius yet controlling, narcissist to me.

[@kevinherd3437]

Eric is a great horn player and he's earned the right to say what he likes, as long as it's true. Been riding with these folks since 1983, loved the whole scene, TBS I'm sure Prince was more than difficult to work with, brilliant ones normally are. The Time should have been a major act with 10 gold lps, I'm not sure the Family was as talented but.

[@sheisawarenow3753]

I agree, the “Family” wasn’t talent wise, what you think of, when you think of a Prince band.

[@briannaburch6737]

@@sheisawarenow3753 When you think of the family you think of the songs then prince wrote for them you’re right they weren’t as big as the time And they didn’t have much discipline On their own at least Jimmy Jim and Terry Louis use the exposure that he gave them although he did fire them and they became household producers household names themselves

[@briannaburch6737]

@Tony You’re right on point I’ve been saying that the time has been playing the same music for over 40 years or close to it I see it’s A lot of blaming thrown on him though Morris Day even said that he didn’t have the same drive and motivation as Prince So that’s why a lot of them didn’t do well after they left his camp

[@soulburst]

@Tony they have been saying that about Price even when he was alive. Why do you think he was estranged form his form band mates

[@arkantika3927]

i freaking love these people. they are my family. love to prince..

[@joeyday576]

Loving all this real talk. I always felt Prince purposefully extinguished Sheila E's solo career by having her join the Sign 'o' the TImes band at the same time her 3rd album was released. Personally, I felt that 3rd Sheila album was her best but there was no way for her to promote it while playing drums for Prince. Though I admit to loving that 87-88 configuration of the band.

[@ROCKNROLLFAN]

well, Sheila E wanted bobby's job cuz she knew that she was a much better drummer than him....lol....

[@susandonahue865]

In the club, they feel ok if they’ve given you a jumping off point ..The guys in power appear to get the girlfriends & wives gigs as “Housewives,” a book tour, etc ... When they’re done, gotta move you around the chessboard. 🌹🌿

[@rickstraws92]

I would agree except it was Sheila who preferred being a drummer than a front person. It was also her choice

[@susandonahue865]

@@rickstraws92 ..Thank you 🙏🏼🌹🌿 I can’t stand it when folks needlessly trash the dead. .. That said, don’t get me started on Judith 🔥

[@joeyday576]

@@rickstraws92 - Yeah, that's true. Just bad timing as far as the album goes.

[@jeffreythompson6330]

The Family album is a masterpiece!

[@jody1music]

The Family is my Top 5 Albums ever made. Holy $%&^!!! Paul is that THEE jacket in the cut??? 5.57

[@drloqutis2492]

The Family one of the greatest projects ever, then it was essentially shelved. They should have ushered in a new romantic funk movement. Great band one of my favorite albums of all time.

[@giri.goyo_yt]

New Romantic Funk. I like that.

[@danielequihua9359]

Your Band The Family was Awesome I loved the Screams of Passion talented Group needed much more coverage and Material .

[@erikmcc804]

wow this was amazing thank you guys :-)

[@Mr7Poz]

Hindsight is 20/20, I am only an outsider, but it seems that this guy was so plugged in, things were going way too fast in his head, he knew it. That's why he started multiple side bands. It's no secret he was such a strange businessman.

[@MadameJaneDoe]

Things were so quiet before he passed... wow.

[@MadameJaneDoe]

Not just these guys. Even Chaka Khan was dragging him on VLAD's platform. Prince adored Chaka Khan and was behind lots of her success. Show Biz...

[@MrRealbrotha]

@@MadameJaneDoe you are incorrect..Chaka had success before Prince got into the industry

[@MadameJaneDoe]

@@MrRealbrotha you should re-read my statement, and then re-read your remark. Happy KWANZAA.

[@MrRealbrotha]

@@MadameJaneDoe you state he was behind a lot of her success..i disagree

[@MadameJaneDoe]

It's distasteful to drag a person's only after they have passed... That's my point. It's mostly a spiritual virtue... but I cant teach anyone spirituality.

[@Catinthehackmatrix]

whaat, another surprise! Well in a way, after someone passes on, it feels odd to hear about their flaws, and good to see them there for each other.

[@debbiechain1402]

This was great. I agree I love the good and the other things that had happened

[@valeriacao510]

We were Menudo 😂😂😂😂

[@cornellwilson3760]

Eric Leeds is not pulling no punches!

[@soulburst]

he has always said he was not a fan of princes music and it was just about getting paid.

[@brutusalwaysminded]

I love Susannah's coffee mug. Gotta get one! Thanks.

[@tinaneaderhiser9127]

Thanks so much 💜👏💜👍💜

[@MsANGLEPOISE]

Every time I heard Eric Leed I thought he was very straightforward, not beating around the bush. I actually only listen to him talking about prince. All the rest, I feel like they are on a NDA.

[@strauqq1]

Exactly.

[@PhuckHue2]

NDA's expire especially when the person died. The NDA he signed was 35 years ago. I think its messed up nobody will admit they saw Prince high on drugs. The only people who had the guts were his brother Duane and Susan Rogers

[@MsANGLEPOISE]

@@PhuckHue2 Yes. Very sad. Addiction is a illness not a crime.

[@soulburst]

he has always said being in Prince bands was just a paying gig.

[@gabrielvictoria3364]

Awweeesome.!

[@lauraveney1412]

Will Jellybean be complaining about how he lost his house since the family could not use the name like he did before Prince passed yet he is now putting out his own music.

[@rirchardrubio5621]

Prince asked every woman to marry him. Shiela E etc.

[@mkeyw2226]

He did to keep sleeping with them!

[@rexxgarvin5313]

Princes Ego was taller than ''Him''.........

[@reeserobinson6889]

and his talent was taller than Shaq

[@stevenm6453]

Why is this only 7 minutes?

[@MrRealbrotha]

Prince was not perfect..it's time you hear the total person from those who were around him..the thing is that,all of it seems consistant since Jam and Lewis firing. he complained about the record company but he was doing the same to his camp

[@nancypatricia511]

Totally agree. He hated contracts for himself because he wanted to be free to do what he wanted but he forced his way on everybody else. Prince had a strange concept of what producing was.

[@rickstraws92]

Yes and no. Prince was doing and or making the majority of the work. These people were just the image portion and even that Prince came up with all that. The record company situation was more so ownership and telling him when and how much music he could put out

[@Toracube]

Thanx

[@THEWOLFE-007]

YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY AWESOME AND I LOVE YOU!!!! HOW DID I KNOW THAT I WOULD LOVE ALL OF YOU?? YOUR MUSIC MAKES ME DREAM, FLY, CHILL, SAIL, RELAX, FREAK-OUT!! ENJOY!! FEEL SATISFIED!! FANTISIZE!! FLOAT!! JUMP!! I AM SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS, NOT PRINCE, MADE ME LOVE YOU GUYS-WHO ARE CREATIVE AS GOD INTENDED YOU TO BE AND I AM GREATFUL FOR THAT TIME IN MY LIFE! THANK YOU GUYS AND BEATIFUL SUSSANAH and Her FAMILY FOR MAKING IT ALL WORK> JULIE TOO LOVE YOU in CHRIST'S NAME --BENJAMIN WOLFE

[@lp9155]

Controlling people play their cards close to their chest so others don't have the control!

[@VoxRox]

5:50 LOL!

[@wendellwiggins3776]

THE FAMILY album is wonderful. Their Nothing Compares is the best version even Prince's. I always acknowledge them when other versions are played so that ppl know The Fam ruled

[@djandrethedoc]

What Episode # was this clip from? Not finding it on the podcast page..

[@dmoneyd2010]

What a roller coaster ride, money is the root of all evil.

[@sheisawarenow3753]

The “love” of money is the root of all evil.....

[@rickstraws92]

None of Prince’s protege acts were ever going to last. It’s clear and evident. They were just vehicles for him to get more music out but under other names or using other people. The Time, Vanity 6, The Family, Mazarati, Etc.

[@Crunkboy415]

Jam & Lewis were lucky to get fired when they did. Wendy & Lisa were almost too late.

[@dabigdikdangler]

I don't understand why this is a surprise? Half of them were in The Time.

[@sheisawarenow3753]

Exactly....they all knew what the deal was....

[@briannaburch6737]

@@sheisawarenow3753 exactly They want somebody to blame it’s pointing fingers time 🤦‍♀️

[@HealingConstellation]

I can't find the whole video it's not on the video list episode 22. Can anyone help.

[@zakiasimpson8928]

Hope people sit around and talk about them like this once deceased, well they never turn out to be famous even after leaving Prince🤷🏽‍♀️. I think Prince has some major dysfunctional from his childhood that followed him into adulthood. Glad to hear others talk well of him as he matured over time.

[@cheboy]

💜🐾

[@kingperalta]

"The only reason The Family began was because he lost control of The Time" 😂 love Eric's style

[@Rid]

Yet he proposed to Sheila too around the same time . A year or so prior ? Lol

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

At this time, I was not a Prince fan due to what happened to The Time.. So, I refused to acknowledge The Family.

[@braviafeed]

Let's be serious for a moment... without Prince none of these people would be known outside of their own private circles. There are literally thousands of musicians that could have blown them off the stage. If he was such a monster why didn't you leave and start yor own shit?... because you couldn't.

[@sheisawarenow3753]

True. Especially the crew here...😸

[@chica4530]

Most of this happened over 35 years ago when P was in his mid 20s. You can always talk about your experience without trying to place someone in a bad light. We all know he was controlling & a perfectionist, quite honestly I use to be a perfectionist and controlling when people were working on my brand. As you get older you loosen the reins a little which P did. None of them will ever dim his light.

[@briannaburch6737]

I agree 100% everybody can blame him and yes he’s deserving of it as much as I am a big fan but what did they do with their talents or the music after they left him it didn’t seem like much but everybody wants to point the finger at him For why they Didn’t have a greater success

[@briannaburch6737]

@@chica4530 Most business people are controlling with everything look at James Brown even you have to be pretty ruthless but prince was a profectionist I think he mellowed out as he got older he was all about not losing control when he was younger but he gave many younger artist a lot more control once he matured

[@theprolificnetwork4670]

Prince Personified Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe Anyway nobody else can be that but him.

[@ROCKNROLLFAN]

I don't think that they would be saying all of this stuff if Prince was still alive cuz its a lot of shade especially on behalf of Eric Leeds vocalizing it.

[@lauraveney1412]

They have piped down a bit since I am sure they signed those non-disclosure agreements. She was suppose to go on some podcast with Toure and spill some secrets and that never aired. He also lent her money and she has a note with the estate. Eric is just some loser whose career never rose above working for Prince. Nobody outside of the Prince community even knows who he is.

[@sheisawarenow3753]

@@lauraveney1412 😂😅🤣....I agree. Time has not been kind to Susannah. Seeing her now....you could never imagine her being one of Prince’s women. I’m not trying to be mean, just honest.

[@briannaburch6737]

@@sheisawarenow3753 Oh my goodness 🙄🤣I was thinking the same thing I didn’t wanna be rude though she was really pretty back then though 😂

[@briannaburch6737]

@@lauraveney1412 That’s what I’ve been saying that lately everybody wants to throw daggers but their group with nowhere after leaving his Camp

[@kayrobbie5840]

That's not true. Prince gave Sheila E chance after chance to strike out on her own. But she just kept coming back to Prince. Even after he wrote her monster hits. She choose to come back to him on her own.

[@karlcarlysle462]

Sheila already had a career prior to Prince

[@brothercinnamon2479]

​@@karlcarlysle462thank you

[@jamiistarr66]

Eric leeds is always slightly bitter in my opinion. A lot of talking since prince died. Silent when he was alive. Prince cant defend himself. I'm not comfortable with this at all. He was the machine they were his helpers. Too many egos here.

[@rexxgarvin5313]

Prince was not that Nice. Because of his Gift and Talent, showbusiness made him a Monster. Almost like working for James Brown. Musicians who worked with Prince have deep horror stories. Very few are Happy. Now you talk to Musicians that have worked with Michael Jackson, total different Vibe. They are so happy talking about Michael, they ''Glow''. Musicians love Rick James too. Musicians are Deep!!

[@ruthavery8245]

You did not know prince. Keep listening to he said and she said. There is always some lies in the mix.

[@rexxgarvin5313]

@@ruthavery8245 How do you know I did not know Prince?

[@MsANGLEPOISE]

Tell me more. I am a prince fan who wants to know.

[@chica4530]

Michael didn't have as many irons in the fire at the same time as Prince. Michael only was dealing with his career. I'm not even going to bother speaking on Rick James. Prince was controlling and definitely a hard person to work with but most who have many visions are. They are moving at the rate of speed and have no time for the niceties when trying to complete their goal. Remember everyone had choices during this time. Prince didn't have a gun to their head to make them stay or accept any of it. Keep in mind Prince was extremely young not even 30. He had major responsibilities at 24.

[@MsANGLEPOISE]

@@chica4530 . the "no one forced you with a gun in your head" is mediocre approach to explain past decisions. I just hope you are below 15 years old. the age when I stopped using this type of simple argument to explain human interactions

[@tomh1593]

Wow. They are really slapping Prince now. 5 years ago Prince could do know wrong. They would be quiet if he was still around.

[@ivettepalacin8599]

Damn fn shame, playing with their lives while feeding his ego; hard to tell a successful narcissist f-off

[@frankmarasco6233]

Baahhhahah. Prince to this point had done 3 Time albums, Sheila E album, Jill Jones around same time. Apolonia nonsense, And it's a stunner that he is going to write and control the Family album. LOL. Eric was great. But come on dude.

[@Thetunnelyak]

Eric whining after Prince passed. Really classy. You were an adult dude. You could have declined to be a part of the group. Give me a break.

[@reginafris6822]

According to Jill, Eric had a crush on Susannah and dated her briefly after her break up with Prince. Sour grapes from forty years ago...not attractive. Eric's brother. Alan, stated that Prince told him to get Susannah out of France, and he accompanied her on a flight back to the US. Meanwhile, Prince flew Sheila and Jill over to Nice while she was gone.