Princesses of Wales

[@Nikki-tx6kh]

Knowing as I know the Hannoverians family dinamics, the 18th Century Diana Spencer dodged a massive bullet. She dodged it so hard that the bullet kept flying for 200 hundred years and hit someone else down her family.

[@lilymarinovic1644]

Obviously had her name on it though, hence it hit the othe Diana Spencer.

[@ambibambi1021]

I literally said “well at least we know why she has bad karma”

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

For real

[@magicfire763]

Thank you for calling Kate by her full name Catherine and for signing Camilla with her correct surname Shand. Most people called her Parker Bowles even after her marriage to Charles, while that is the surname of her first husband whom she divorced a long time ago. You prepare well and put a lot of work into making your videos as close to the truth as possible.

[@YukiOnyo]

MEEE

[@kconley87]

Some people keep their former spouses surname when they divorce, so they still share a name with any children they have together, until the woman remarries and takes chooses to take her new husband's surname or keep her former current one. A woman is not required to revert to her maiden name, nor should she be referred to by it unless she reverts to it when the divorce is granted.

[@mariamm961]

Yes, it is the correct. She is Camilla Shand not Parker Bowles, as Mary of Teck and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.

[@MsGbergh]

@@mariamm961 Parker Bowles is the name that would have been on her 2nd marriage certificate, while Charles's occupation would have been given as 'Prince of the United Kingdom.'

[@mariamm961]

@@MsGbergh from 2005, she is not Parker Bowles.

[@CallieMasters5000]

I didn't realize there were some pretty big gaps - like over a hundred years - between Henry VIII and the Georges, then again before Victoria and Elizabeth II, without a princess of Wales.

[@seanmaher3518]

They could always start a new custom the next time a woman is heir apparent to throne.

[@mothermovementa]

​@Sean Maher a women will never be heir presumptive anymore so they can be princess of Wales in their own right

[@LauraFromMarkerQuest]

Gwenllian, daughter of Llywelyn, actually was acknowledged as Princess of Wales. When Edward I wrote to the Pope to ask for more money for the convent where she was imprisoned, he pointed out that "herein is kept the Princess of Wales, whom we have to maintain." She is the only woman who ever held the title in her own right.

[@ansieengelbrecht4495]

Thats so fascinating.

[@ibqmely]

Well, now I know why Mary Tudor and Charlotte weren't Princesses of Wales in their own right; I learned something new today. Thank you Lindsay for your hard work!

[@gabbyxi]

But when Charlotte died her father was the prince of wales? So she married her father?

[@adriannahowell2359]

@@gabbyxi Charlotte was using her father’s title, much like how prince William’s kids are also “of wales” tiday

[@amitystan]

@@adriannahowell2359 which Charlotte? I’m confused

[@ritakay7113]

@@amitystan Princess Charlotte of Wales. Same name as the current princess (William and Kate’s daughter) but she was born in 1796. She was an only child and heir to the crown until her early death due to childbirth.

[@pedanticradiator1491]

@ritakay7113 she never actually the heir she was 2nd in line for her entire life

[@ynys_mon6928]

Just a hint on Welsh pronunciation. One f is pronounced like an English v, and two ffs like English f. Although most of us Welsh resent the imposition of the first Prince of Wales in medieval times, most of us nowadays are very supportive of the current Prince and Princess. I have a cherished memory dating from a month or two after they married, when William was working as a search and rescue pilot in Anglesey, Wales. I went to do a food shop in our local Tesco’s supermarket in Holyhead and was completely amazed to pass Catherine in one of the aisles doing her own shop. She was obviously trying to keep her life as ‘normal’ as possible, at least for a few more months.

[@KevinDavis338]

As someone who has Welsh ancestry, this was fascinating.

[@leahengland6704]

No, all your Princes of Wales were GERMAN or ENGLISH 😂😂 They are English ❤❤

[@lindajones7219]

@@leahengland6704 They might have been However Wales was a small kingdom and had many brave Princess . One just needs to read the history of self proclaimed Qwain Glyn Dwr , < Owen Glendower> .

[@Turt13princess]

I just traced my ancestors to Owain and it blew my mind now I’m trying to learn as much as I can

[@rowennoonan6716]

Hi Lindsay! I think it would be super cool to make a video/series on the longest living members of the British royal family! Whose with me?

[@dassykreisman9575]

Me

[@samcohen2483]

Sounds good

[@akishaAaa]

Not me because i know your begging for likes

[@dorderre]

Would that include spouses too? I'm sure some of those lived pretty long as well.

[@rowennoonan6716]

@@dorderre Yes, the Queen Mum lived to be 101 and Alice, Duchess of Gloucester (the wife of King George VI’s brother) loved to be 103.

[@shan21999]

I always learn so much from your videos! I had no idea Mary and Elizabeth were not princess of Wales, even as an heir presumptive in Mary's case. Thanks for all your hard work making these videos ❤

[@mads855]

I hope this is up on Google Podcasts! I'm driving to the OB today and usually listen to your podcasts on my drives 🥰 such a relaxing way to pass time.

[@helenfreeman4188]

I commented this in your previous video, and I’m sure this one was already finished, but for future reference, that painting is no longer thought to be of Katherine of Aragon. It’s Mary Tudor, the sister of Prince Arthur and Henry VIII.

[@reverseflashes]

Catherine and Mary were very close friends, maybe the artist at the time attributed the painting to both of them. That's what I think anyway. 😅

[@kathleenbreslin3546]

I saw this painting at The Tudors exhibit at the Metropolitan museum if Art in NY a couple of weeks ago. They labeled it Mary Tudor, Henry’s sister.

[@pontmercy8]

Interesting, did not know this!

[@mediocremaiden8883]

Well, its still being discussed and debated whether or not it was Mary or Catherine. I think it was most likely Catherine of Aragon, because the other portraits of Mary Tudor, Queen of France Duchess of Suffolk show her with darker hair and a pointed nose as opposed to the reddish gold and more rounded nose of Catherine of Aragon. We'll most likely never know for sure...It certainly makes for interesting conversation and lively debate

[@mediocremaiden8883]

Although, Most of if not all the surviving to teenagehood Children of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York had the beautiful, reddish gold hue of their serene mother...but in Mary Tudor's Marriage Portait to Ole Chucky Brandon her hair is darkest black and her nose is more....pointy. Humph. You know it is so rude that the Museum didn't just go back in time to Tudor England and take photos to bring to us in America so we could see! *SO RUDE*

[@SabC646]

Love your work Lindsay! I always learn something new!

[@santashahadley5916]

Thank you for this history lesson on the Princesses of Wales and everytime I watch one of your historic videos I gain a deeper meaning on that subject since am house bound due health problems i.e. am been diable since 2020 this help my mind stay stable. Thank you again. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🫂

[@Nightsky20240]

I love your voice, it's so calming!

[@ilduce5874]

The persistence of certain media outlets in calling her Kate Middleton is beyond disrespectful. Her name was HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge since her wedding day and then HRH Catherine, Princess of Wales since the Queen died last year. One would think that after over ten years, the “Kate Middleton” moniker would have stopped.

[@lsmith9249]

she was HRH The Duchess of Cambridge, and now she is HRH The Princess of Wales, putting her name before the title and missing out THE indicates former Diana's title was changed after her divorce, Diana, Princess of Wales was part of the divorce to indicate she was the former Princess of Wales and the same for Sarah

[@aprilskora8883]

Yes! Camilla was Princess of Wales when she married Charles Prince of Wales she didn't dare use it Thank you.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

She isn't that silly. There would have been blood in the streets had she taken that name on. Charles and her did everything to try and get Camilla in the good books....Naming Camilla Princess of Wales would NOT have been taken well.

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

@@suzyfarnham3165 Camilla officially had the title The Princess of Wales but out of respect for Diana, Camilla chose to go by The Duchess of Cornwall.

[@cymro6537]

Very interesting,but the pronouncing of the Welsh names should be thus : _Owain_ is pronounced 'Owe - wine', with the emphasis on the 'Owe' _Brenhines_ is pronounced 'Bren- heen -ess' with the emphasis on the 'heen'. _Dafydd_ is prone 'Dah-vith' ,emphasis on the 'Dah' _Ferch_ is pronounced 'veh-rrch' with the 'r' rolled and the 'ch' as in 'loch' 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@danielleporter1829]

Please do a video on the history of the legacy of kings of the Hellenes (Greece 🇬🇷). The late King of Greece, Constantine II passed away today. He was first cousin to the late Duke of Edinburgh, and godfather to the current Prince of Wales who is godfather to the late Constantine II's eldest grandson. His father, Crown Prince Pavlos is the godson of King Charles III.

[@Scarlett59319]

Yes that would be amazing!!

[@Rogerramjet4321]

Thanks Lindsay. You always give us the most interesting information.

[@Maggie22002]

The narrator should have added that the most recent Diana Spencer was the daughter of the EIGHTH Earle Spencer.

[@milola8868]

15:19😮😮😂😂😂 are you kidding me?!

[@deem7478]

More on Anne Neville, Princess of Wales, widow of Prince Edward of Westminster, son of Henry VI. Later Queen Consort of King Richard III.

[@anita_comic5205]

At 9:22, you showed a picture representing the Battle of Aljubarrota, which hapenned in 1385 in Batalha, Leiria, Portugal. It was a very important battle between Portugal and Castille, specifically, for the Portuguese crown. Although the painting represents an event from the same time period, it doesn't represent the event you are talking about in the video. Aside from that, I love watching your videos, I learn so much about history with them! Continue with the good work👍

[@mjarmes]

Thank you for the video, love all of your content! ❤️

[@b.walker5955]

You are the first I have heard discussing the investiture or lack thereof of Prince William. ~ Have been wondering what that would look like in a more modern era. THANK YOU.

[@lsmith9249]

@b.walker5955 the excuse for not having an investiture is the cost of living crisis but l really don't think there would have been one it's not really necessary, the ceremony had been held centuries ago, and George V was persuaded to revive the ceremony and it was reinvented in the medieval style in the modern era an investiture would be held at the Senedd (welsh parliament) but an investiture won't happen

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

I think I asked for this video ages ago. Lots about women who were mothers of kings, but didn't become queens.

[@sm0kybluedaze394]

Great work! Thanks for sharing!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@hyperactivehyperbole]

Great video, excellent topic and really done well, loved it. 👍

[@ChristChickAutistic]

This is going to be good! Yes!

[@katmarrs7054]

I wish you were my history teacher. You make it so easy to understand.

[@ludovica8221]

Derby is said "Darby"

[@Turt13princess]

This is crazy I just traces my ancestors to Owain the great just 2 days ago and I have been looking everywhere for more info about them I’m so gladded you covered this!!

[@jennifervillanueva8453]

Yes!! 😊❤️ I can't wait to watch this 😍

[@NIkki-ox1ej]

Kate is the real queen 👸. Blessings from America

[@jrimpau]

Kate is not the Queen. Camilla is the Queen, anointed and crowned.

[@lise7538]

I hope people don't get too focuses on the Diana drama, it's getting late...

[@talariel7622]

GEORGE II + CAROLINE OF ANSBACH GEORGE IV + MARIA FITZHERBERT + CAROLINE OF BRUNSWICK EDWARD VII + ALEXANDRA OF DENEMARK GEORGE V + MARY OF TECK EDWARD VIII + WALLIS SIMPSON GEORGE VI + ELIZABETH BOWES LYON ELIZABETH II + PHILIP MOUNTBATTEN CHARLES III + DIANA FRANCES SPENCER + CAMILA PARKER BOWLES WILLIAM + CATHERINE MIDDLETON

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

Wallis Simpson, Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, and Queen Elizabeth II were never The Princess of Wales and King George VI and Prince Philip were never The Prince of Wales.

[@EmoNinjaKat89]

Could you do a video of some stuff like the Hope Diamond and other things that have a horrible past!

[@liselmovies8104]

I was wondering if you could maybe do a video on the queens of the Belgians. There are a few interesting figures amongst them

[@clintchauvin9467]

Love for you to go into some more other royals maybe on a new channel? I’d love to learn more about them especially Denmark and the countries around Northern Europe. Love to learn more about Prussian rulers too since I find it’s just rarely talked. Idk about y’all but Prussia was rarely mentioned in school for me in southern Louisiana. We learned mostly about French obvi since that’s where a lot of heritage started.

[@hospitalqueen4047]

I found it crazy how a prince of Wales isnt actually from Wales. If anyone should be a prince from that area it should be a prince from that area only and no one else.

[@dishita_shorts]

Diana and Alexandra were the most beautiful Princesses of Wales

[@Cowgirl4God]

It’s so nice hearing Queen Camilla and Princess Catherine properly. I think it shows disrespect when Catherine is referred to as Kate Middleton. They’ve been together how long? And Princess Diana was always referred to as either Lady Diana or Princess Diana. Some reporters need to learn to respect women in the Royal Family. Especially Princess Catherine and Queen Camilla. And it wouldn’t heart to throw in their earned titles of HRH! Something Megan will never be. IMHO 😉🤴🏼👸🏻

[@jamellfoster6029]

Thank you Lindsay. I adore Prince William & Princess Kate.

[@briannanicole1151]

Catherine not Kate!!!

[@Beth-mi2hf]

​@@briannanicole1151 Kate Kate Kate Kate

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

@@Beth-mi2hf Her name is Catherine not Kate

[@kengwengloke6562]

RIP the last King of Greece

[@Tea85Bk]

I really enjoy your videos a lot. Would you maybe consider doing a series about Pope's and their history. Especially one of Pope Benedict who just passed away. Would really love to hear and learn more about their history.

[@KittyO7878]

I'm not sure that would be a good idea as he was far to controversial and a lot of victims that he buried the CSAs against are still alive.

[@lindajones7219]

That may well take at least 20 years as there have been 266 Popes , Some of them most certainly not worthy of the job . Murderers , Fornicators on a grand scale . thieves . blasphemers et etc . Pope Rodrigo from Spain Pope Alexander V1 Known as the BORGIA POPE . unbelievably the Devils own and John the X11, BonifaceVI1i ,Benedict X1, Seriius 111, Leo X, Stephen V1, Sixtus 1V Innocent V111, Julius 11, Paul 1V These are some of the most shocking people who were Popes which in my opinion reveals that the Catholic Church is not the venerated Church it Purports to be . Acts so shameful such greed . and murder on such a scale . Worse than many criminals that would have lost their lives for merely stealing a loaf bread . Look for a series called The BORGIA Pope Alexander V1 with many famous actor ......... Jeremy Irons British actor One of the very best series you will ever see from 1998 i Believe but a master piece to see and watch .

[@DarkSHadowI8]

Thank you for not simply blaming Charles and Camilla but saying that Diana had her own affairs. People always forget that she is as much to "blame" as Charles

[@emilybarclay8831]

Her affairs began after years of infidelity and abuse from Charles. At that point her marriage was a sham and everyone knew it

[@laurenclear2453]

I've always wondered why Queen Victoria wasn't considered the heir apparent and held the title Princess of Wales. There was nobody whose birth could have displaced her, so why would she be the heir presumptive?

[@whirlingpeach]

bc men suck‼️

[@danielleporter1829]

Her father , Prince Edward, Duke of Kent was the 4th son of George III. The last Princess of Wales before Diana was the Late Queen's grandmother, Queen Mary.

[@laurenclear2453]

@@danielleporter1829 Yes, but why? The video states that women can't be heirs apparent, but as nobody's birth could have displaced Victoria in the succession from 1830 onwards. So why was she an heir presumptive and not an heir apparent?

[@danielleporter1829]

@@laurenclear2453 She was heir presumptive because had her father been alive and her parents had more children or any of her uncles, namely a boy, he would've leapfrogged over her. This actually happened in the Japanese Imperial family. The current Emperor and Empress have two daughters. When the Emperor's youngest and only nephew ( he's a teenager now ) was born, he leapfrogged over his Emperor's eldest daughter in particular. The current King of Spain , King Felipe is the only son and youngest of the former King and Queen's children and with his birth in 1968, he overtook hos eldest sister, Infanta Elena in the line of secession. as did Crown Prince Hakkon of Norway although he has an older sister. But in both of the last examples. Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway 🇧🇻 and Infanta Leonor of Spain 🇪🇦 are among next generation of Queen Regnants along with Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden🇸🇪, Cro2n Princess Catharina Amalia of The Netherlands🇳🇱 and Crown Princess Elisabeth, Duchess of Brabant of Belgium🇧🇪

[@pedanticradiator1491]

Her uncle William IV could have had in theory children who would have displaced her

[@lisapop5219]

Probably would have been relevant to mention Owen was Welsh and not a noble & contributed to the Tudor obsession

[@dlriley22]

I hope the Bridgerton spin off about Queen Charlotte includes her shutting down her mother in law

[@gaynor1721]

Where do you get these numbers from? Lady Diana Spencer was the 9th Princess of Wales. Camilla, Queen Consort was the 10th Princess of Wales, although she didn't use the title. Catherine is the 11th Princess of Wales. King Charles was the 21st Prince of Wales. Prince William is the 22nd Prince of Wales.

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

King Charles was 22nd Prince of Wales and Prince William is the 23rd Prince of Wales.

[@kengwengloke6562]

2:28 King John successor is his son not his half brother

[@michaeljames9882]

I wanted to tell you "great video" but also correct a misspoke piece of information...the Princess of Wales prior to Catherine was not Diana but, in fact, Camilla. Out of respect for Diana and also out of respect for public opinion on being known (in the public arena) as PoW she became most closely associated with Prince Charles's second highest-ranking subsidiary title which was 'Duke/Duchess of Cornwall' whilst in Scotland that next-highest title was 'Duke/Duchess of Rothesay'. Interestingly, for about 18 months after Prince Philip's death Charles (thereby Camilla, too) also had inherited and held the Dukedom of Edinburgh.

[@francoruiters1280]

She's still not acknowledged as POW. She never deserved any title.

[@syria0110]

​@@francoruiters1280Putting aside personal feelings, Camilla was Princess of Wales BY LAW from the day she married Charles to the date of Queen Elizabeth's death

[@francoruiters1280]

@@syria0110 but yet again, she couldn't use it, cos she wasn't recognized as the title holder, given how she obtained it.

[@sandrajayandran]

I believe the Dukedom of Edinburgh didn't automatically go to Charles did it?

[@jrimpau]

@@francoruiters1280Camilla was the 11th Princess of Wales. It doesn’t matter whether she deserved it or not. By law, a wife takes on the feminine forms of her husband’s styles and titles. Thus, the wife of HRH The Prince of Wales is HRH The Princess of Wales. That said, she was an excellent PoW and is an exemplary Queen, and is eminently deserving of all her titles.

[@LDF1218]

Diana could have done so much better than Charles.

[@in00n]

Sadly, Charles was forced to marry Diana, even though he had known and been dating Camila long before. The royal family hated Camila because she was a commoner, and this was before the “cheating” scandal broke out. The family tried to break Charles and Camila up, but they never stopped dating, even when Charles was forced into the arranged marriage to Diana.

[@MsGbergh]

@@in00n As a schoolgirl she said her ambition was to be a ballerina or Princess of Wales. I doubt if she'd have married a man who was not only 13 years older than her, but old for his age if he had not been a prince. She was in love with love, or having a title.

[@amyparker9816]

@@in00n Charles was grown man. If he'd had any balls, he would have put his foot down and refused to marry someone that he didn't love. This boo hoo poor Charles narrative is getting old.

[@karleinegraham446]

Then you would not know her and there would be no worshippers at the Cult of Diana.

[@in00n]

@@amyparker9816 Yeah it's easy to put your foot down when your mother isn't the queen of the UK and the Commonwealth. Royal family members face constant ridicule, regardless of what they do. Charles would've been dragged by the public if he did decide to put his foot down. It would've been a lose-lose situation either way.

[@stonereviews4738]

Could you do a video on the House of Glucksburg?

[@petersdotter1]

From this history, it does't seem like the title comes with very good luck. Instead, most Princesses of Wales had a very rough time.

[@Skittals-s1p]

Thank you for calling Kate by her full name Catherine and for sayimg Camilla with her correct surname Shand. Most people called her Parker Bowles even after she divorced her first husband and you have put a smile on my face since day UNO >SPOILER< ALEART IM NOT SPANISH

[@carolinescholes3937]

What will the king and Queen’s surname be after the coronation ? Great information.

[@pedanticradiator1491]

The same as it was before the coronation- the House name is Windsor but the actual surname is Mountbatten-Windsor

[@luvmuzik4me]

King John of England passed the throne to his son not his half-brother.

[@MynameisInigoMontoya4]

Caroline of Brunswick had such a sad life. Her husband was such a super douche, but it does make you wonder what happened, if anything, between the two that made him feel justified to treat her that way.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Have you read about her? Her lack of proper hygiene would have been enough.

[@kaylamanor]

Your content is 🔥

[@andipopa1647]

Thank you for this video!!🤗

[@megsmysteries8968]

Good afternoon watching replay now.

[@charlottewong434]

I love this

[@Jblaze8284]

Think it’s time us welsh had our title back in welsh hands.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Beth-mi2hf]

I'm not Welsh.but I agree with u u guys should get the title back it should be back where it rightfully belongs

[@kconley87]

Are you going to be an independent country and leave the United Kingdom too?

[@FaeriePrincex]

Megan wearing a tiara tgat essentially has a giant eye in the front of it, i think, was a very good move. Something to keep the evil eye off her.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

She should not have worn a tiara at all. It did not belong to her family. Diana wore her family's tiara. Sarah did not wear a tiara until she appeared on the balcony as the Duchess of York.

[@hlwhhlwh2351]

Was Ludlow in Wales at the time of Arthur and Katherine? It was part of the Welsh Marches, and the Tudor administrative headquarters for Wales, but after the 8th century was part of West Mercia.

[@pedanticradiator1491]

Ludlow was technically in England at the time but the Marcher Lords had considerable power in the borderlands and in parts of what is now Wales. Henry VIII later stripped them of these powers and fixed the border between England and Wales though the status of Monmouthshire was not settled until 1974.

[@Kenzalina_]

Sounds like everyone who has held/used this title has had tragedy befall their lives. Maybe they should just give it back to the Welsh.

[@marqueshawalker2111]

It's crazy that when a woman of high standards marries a prince or king her family really forgets about her even now with Princees Di-how could they know and not help?

[@leighnisbett9691]

If you want the true history of Wales ,please look up Dan Snow's history of the castle and it also tells the history of the country at the same time and how history was shaped .He also tells the history of other castles around Great Britain .

[@LaReinaZorra]

Um…Camilla held the title as well…she just didn’t use it publicly so…nothing “technical” about it. She WAS Princess of Wales. It doesn’t negate it just because you don’t use it. You also seemed to have missed the part where Diana pretended to share commonalities with the then PoW in order to marry him. He didn’t take interest in her until she made herself known under false pretenses.

[@maleighnadavis8594]

I'm curious. Why was any of Henry the 8th wives after Catherine was named princess of Wales? Or did I miss that part?

[@sarahudson108]

Because he was already King when he married them they would have been Queen Consort, Jane Seymour tragically died from a post child birth infection before she could be officially coronated .

[@maleighnadavis8594]

@@sarahudson108 oh that's right. Thank you for your help

[@MsGbergh]

@@sarahudson108 'Queen consort' is a new title. I think King Charles's mother suggested it as a way to show her support for him, and also because a lot of people might have trouble getting their heads round the idea of a queen not being a reigning one. In Henry VIII'S time, it was understood that a king's wife was a Queen. Even in the 20th Century, the wives of the kings did not have the word 'consort' in their title.

[@arielsclamshellbra]

Thats not true at all lol all women who were married to the king are queen consort but are called simply queen​@MsGbergh there is nothing different about camilla

[@arielsclamshellbra]

​@@MsGberghthis is absolutely insane to believe....kinds wives are queens, their official title is always queen consort, a queen ruling in her own right like queen Elizabeth is called queen regnant. Every single woman who was married to the king is his queen consort. Camilla has exactly the same title as the rest of them. This confusion comes from someone saying camilal would be princess consort instead of queen consort years ago to shut the public up who were upset she would be the queen consort one day, but the queen said no to that and declared camilla would be called the same thing as every other wife of a king in history, queen consort, simplified to just "Queen".

[@HORSEYANIME2024]

Pls do a part 2 of this video

[@Jewels0007]

Oh I know the one that should have it. Princess Diana and Princess Kate

[@jamesmarshall1979]

Neither title is correct. To use prince or princess before their names they must be born within royal family. Those who marry into family must be granted right to use prince or princess before their own names and the queen never granted that right to anyone who married her children or grandchildren and charles has not granted that right either. He hasnt even given Henry’s kids that right yet even though they are now entitled to it. They should only ever be refered to as Diana, princess of wales or Catherine, Princess of wales. Its amazing how many people who claim to love both these women but do not respect the fact they cannot use princess before their names and continue to refer to them this way just because the lazy media do

[@midnight9613]

@@jamesmarshall1979I’ve also heard that Catherine prefers to be called Catherine and not Kate

[@jamesmarshall1979]

@@midnight9613 thats what i call her as its her name as disrespectful to use an shortened verdon. Its no like we ever called the queen Liz

[@sophiero6656]

Henry VIII made Mary Princess of Wales in 1525 and she was installed in her court at Ludlow Castle. There are conflicting opinions as to whether she was officially invested. Obviously, it would not have matter if she had been once Henry decided that she was a bastard and he demoted her to Lady Mary.

[@princerome3854]

Wikipedia claims she was never invested, and since she only lived in Wales for around three years, I am one to think that she was never made Princess of Wales.

[@pedanticradiator1491]

​@princerome3854 she never actually lived in Wales Ludlow is and was at the time in England

[@selinapersaud7629]

She wasn’t necessarily confirmed as such in any official document. But she was given the court.

[@snsdoneandonlynationsgirlg150]

It was Princess Diana who made this title famous!

[@ferrjuan]

0:43 Henry Fredrick Stuart, Charles Stuart, Charles Stuart and James Francis Edward were Scottish not English. George and Fredrick were German not English.

[@ashmirrahnashihinzahlan8786]

That's a rather full name. Although I agree that the term should be British monarchs, but Great Britain only emerged during Anne's rule and those before her are Kings of England (and Scotland during James I). Unless there is other way to refer the monarchs of England

[@jennifertaylor-wright7694]

Just now finding out that Charles dated Diana’s older sister has me sick to my stomach.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Interesting, that Diana did not feel the same way.

[@graceneilitz7661]

The royal family could have saved so much drama by letting Charles marry the person he wanted to marry in the first place. Instead, they shoved two very incompatible people together in a marriage.

[@chipmunkpark8826]

Diana, Princess of Wales♥️♥️♥️

[@jeannehall6546]

Diana died over 25 years ago. The current Princess of Wales is Catherine.

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

@@jeannehall6546 Yes, Catherine is currently The Princess of Wales, but even in death Diana is still styled as Diana, Princess of Wales. She didn’t revert to her previous title.

[@janismarierawlins8805]

All wonderfully beautiful with the exception of CowMilla, she Shamed the UK 🇬🇧 and broke the rules, she broke their hearts, the Princes Harry and William thanks to her pushing in on their dad they have no Mummy, you don’t Mess with Married men but she knew how Weak and Easy their dad was, she made sure that she got him to a place where he felt he could not/never live/be with out her and it worked. I’m wondering what/how the Commonwealth really feels about seeing those two Adulterers on the Throne…yes, I know Our Beloved Princess Diana was no angel but if it weren’t for those two, none of that would have happened.

[@karleinegraham446]

There have been so many adulterer s on all thrones ( including British) that we do not need to worry.

[@jrimpau]

Your use of that childish insult for Her Majesty The Queen tells me all I need to know. And she did not pursue Charles. It was he who pursued her. There are no adulterers on the throne. It was nearly 30 years ago, and they have been forgiven by the church.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Their mummy should have been at Kensington, not in Paris with yet another inappropriate companion.

[@hollandsemum1]

I thought I saw Camilla in your picture montage. As far as I know, Camilla was specifically NOT given the title Pricess of Wales by Queen Elizabeth II, because Diana had been the corresponding Princess of Wales to her son's position as Prince of Wales.

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

Queen Camilla was legally The Princess of Wales as the wife of The Prince of Wales, but out of respect for Diana, she chose to go by The Duchess of Cornwall. When Charles and Diana got divorced, she went from HRH The Princess of Wales to Diana, Princess of Wales. Diana, Princess of Wales was her courtesy title and she got to use it as long as she didn’t remarry.

[@YvonneB520]

Who needs reality TV, just study history

[@markthesapphicdumpsterfire1745]

0:40 the fact you can tell which ones are welsh by their names before she even shows you is hilarious.

[@LaurinhaPimenta]

Great video. Just one thing…Wasn’t Mary Tudor invested Princess of Wales in 1525?

[@pedanticradiator1491]

It's a matter of debate amongst historians wether Mary was ever Princess of Wales. The investiture of a Prince of Wales is largely a 20th century invention

[@LaurinhaPimenta]

@@pedanticradiator1491 although the the source I double checked said specifically “invested”, you can call it “declared” if it suits you better. She was indeed declared Princess of Wales and even sent there for a while to learn accordingly.

[@stephenburns3678]

Thank you

[@renaenolen8461]

Earl Spencer is the proper title. Charles will be crowned first, then maybe William will be formally invested as P o W, due to the resistance in Wales...

[@luladrgn9155]

wasn't camilla parker bowles duchess of cornwall not princess of wales?

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

She was both. When Camilla married then Prince Charles, she legally became The Princess of Wales, but out of respect for Diana, she chose to go by The Duchess of Cornwall, which was her husband’s most senior subsidiary title and at the time of their marriage, Princess of Wales was still heavily associated with Diana.

[@luladrgn9155]

@@matthewmacpherson5071 ohhhh nvm, thx for the clarification!😊

[@trent7686]

Diana will forever be the one who "made known" this title, those before have been forgotten and those after will also be forgotten. But Diana, she, we will never forget it you will see even if coronation of the two monsters the world will remember that there was for a moment this woman who should have been crowned queen consort.

[@jrimpau]

Diana should not have been crowned. She was divorced from the King. The King is on the throne next to the woman he chose to be his wife and Queen.

[@thenablade858]

Queen Catherine of Aragon is incredibly well-known and historically researched so I don’t know what you mean by ‘will be forgotten’ since Diana is a pop culture icon more than anything else. Her charity work is overshadowed by Charles’ affair with Camilla, similar to Catherine.

[@mothermovementa]

Why is an heir pressumtive not princess of wales

[@emilybarclay8831]

Because she’s heir presumptive. Prince of Wales is for the heir apparent. They aren’t the same thing. When a woman is heir presumptive, she is only heir as long as a younger brother is not born. So she’s essentially a placeholder

[@sophroniel]

Derby is pronounced "DAR-bee". Just saying.

[@hollylund7070]

Came here to say this

[@danielleporter1829]

I'm American and when she pronounced Derby with the American pronounciation, my automatic response was to pronounce it the British English way.

[@gazlloyd4793]

@@danielleporter1829 I had the same feeling when she was trying to pronounce Welsh words and names but had to remind myself she might not be able to speak Welsh haha.

[@sophroniel]

@@danielleporter1829 lol!! When people defend their ways of pronouncing words completely wrong and use "well that's the american way!!1!" ("clerk" and "wrath" which are supposed to be "kL-ARK" and "ROTH" respectively) as their excuse i just remind them of the language theyvare speaking haha

[@merchantfan]

I think they should do a movie that's 50% the love story of Henry and Catherine of Aragorn as they got married and 50% him completely deserting her for Anne. Just going back and forth

[@yvonnehill5613]

Princess Diana was in love & a virgin when she married. She became depressed when Charles & Camella kept seeing each other. Diana asked Camella to leave her husband alone & Camella didn’t. When Diana knew that Charles picked Camella that’s when she started dating. Anyone would be upset if their husband goes out on them. You portrayed Diana all wrong.

[@chinchillin6280]

Yeah

[@livingincaptivityIII]

It is spelled Camilla. Diana had a list of extramarital "companions".

[@lisapop5219]

Henry didn't become obsessed. He used it as an excuse, imho, when he realized that Catherine wouldn't produce an heir. He had written documents defending catholicism from protestantsim. He was declared defender of the faith. In the west, that was the Church.

[@thenablade858]

This was when he was a youth and it’s Thomas More that did most of the ‘defending’ for him. Henry definitely didn’t care for the papacy. He saw them as meddling far too much in politics, especially when he wanted his way.

[@jakubkuzminski5670]

Super film

[@cartgamerytcarter5729]

Was Queen Elizabeth, a Princess of Wales before she became Queen?

[@michellea2203]

No she was just Princess Elizabeth since her dad thought the Princess of Wales should only go to the spouse. He also objected to any suggestions for a new title such as Princess of Scotland.

[@berneserainbow1407]

No, she wasn't. As Lindsay explained in the video, there wasn't a Princess of Wales in her own right yet.

[@emmanuellevillacroux2769]

No, because *technically* she was heir presumptive up to her father's death since he could have had a son. Of course her mother was past her child-bearing years but there was the extremely remote possibility her mother died and her father remarried and had more children.

[@magicfire763]

No, because only the monarch's firstborn son can be named Prince of Wales. This title is never given to his daughter. So the Princess of Wales becomes the wife of the heir to the throne, not the female heir to the throne.

[@berneserainbow1407]

@@magicfire763 Well explained. Add-on: That was true until they changed the law to the firstborn being the heir regardless of gender. So, there might be a Princess of Wales in her own right one day?

[@agnellinaonairda680]

I read an article about a sibling rivalry b/w Princes Charles and Andrew when they were young...the article read as "Andrew hated Charles for stealing his gf Lady Diana..and was so happy that he is taller than him"..

[@pedanticradiator1491]

I've never heard of Diana being Andrews girlfriend

[@agnellinaonairda680]

@@pedanticradiator1491 I read that on an old tabloid my godmother has...she had a huge crush on Andrew in the 80s and compiled anything wd him on the news 😇

[@eldorajohnson3894]

You should know that Charles never stopped screwing Camilia.

[@cah571]

You should know that's debatable. Don't make pronouncements when you clearly know nothing .

[@catto1003]

27:37 was there also a protest when Charles became Prince of Wales?

[@Beth-mi2hf]

No don't think so

[@MsGbergh]

We had to write a poem about it at school. I can't remember it all, but here are some bits: 'Being Prince of Wales, won't be nice for Charles. The poem then went on about demonstrators throwing eggs and tomatoes at him. I had heard something on the news about protests from Welsh Nationalists . I did not understand what it was about, and was not 'radical' as someone suggested in later years. Nor did I think badly of Prince Charles. The demonstrations just appealed to my childish slapstick sense of humour. (I was 11 at the time.) I watched the investiture on TV, but there were no demonstrations on the day.

[@YukiOnyo]

Or what about royals that survived from assasination attepts???

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

It's the Earl of Darby not Derby 🤦

[@leighnisbett9691]

The first acknowledged Prince of Wales was the new born child of King Edward the first and he was called Edward the second of England ,the Welsh people wouldn't accept an English speaking Prince instead they got a new born child of English blood as he couldn't speak a word of English .He was born at Caernarfon castle on the 25th of April in the year 1301 from King Edward the first of England and his wife the Queen of England at the time .The Welsh Princes were considered lords of the land under English law and the English Royal family traded for peace by marrying off their female relatives as a token of peace .