Prison officer working with child killer Myra Hindley

[@JamesEnglish]

Watch full interview here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqSuXnt-Z7eWhZI

[@chorleycake7942]

The people who deserved emotional support were the parents and siblings of the murdered children, not the perpetrator.

[@abbieroseholden4174]

💯

[@maryj5593]

This man is a disgrace. If he was a 'professional' he would not discuss his contact with Hindley. Remember there are still members of the victims family alive. Apart from that it's a gross betrayal of confidentiality. IMHO

[@maryj5593]

​@@user-od9dw2hk5o I have through my work had contact with many well known individuals and I would never discuss them with anyone outside of those involved with their management. And I am allowed to express my concern and opinions BTW

[@martinebonne-gray9987]

I agree! Somethings definitely not right with this one! Going to Hollyrood says it all really, a mason.

[@mattlenton2012]

Hes a sick, strange.....and I use the word loosely......man.

[@ValerieLoney]

Exactly

[@suefortescue2201]

Wow. I don't know how you kept yourself together. I realise the interview is three years old but it still sticks in my throat.. I'm old enough to understand that children did go into prisons at certain times of the year but to actually let that child go and play in the gym with her is just beyond belief. The authorities and the dad were outright delusional.

[@klein955cc]

What is wrong with this man ffs Thinks its ok to take your daughter to meet Myra a CHILD KILLER who had an affair with Rose West another CHILD KILLER. She had zero remorse and manipulated all those around her. Its a horrible thought but your daughter would of been used by Myra in her ( and other inmates) fantasies. All of those involved should be ashamed and have a serious look at themselves. This made me so fucking angry!!!!

[@samantharossiter8808]

All the children they murdered never had a chance to hold their own children - to get married and live their lives - hindley helped take that away - 😢 this man is not right in the head

[@ValerieLoney]

Wrong on all levels. She wasn’t his friend

[@keliejest9365]

Wait…what! He let his daughter play with Myra Hindly. Surely this bloke is not right in the head

[@tristanwhite3472]

What!

[@JanEdwards-c1u]

Taking the piss he is. Why have his daughter play with a child killer

[@Kittysoftpaws377]

And what a lack of respect for the children she murdered.

[@sarahevans8297]

He's not very bright,you can tell that ....

[@hollybinnington7600]

Its bad enough that he took time away from his family on weekends to go talk to that monster Unbelievable! What an insult to his family

[@tillyt4054]

I worked in forensic MH services for over 3 decades with people equally as dangerous as Hindley , I never suffered any backlash or hatred because there is a thing called “Confidentiality “that legally and morally prevented me discussing my work outside a professional setting , This guy is a disgrace…..and there are counselling services for female offenders , I worked in one for over a decade, I’m retired now but still would never discuss the offenders I worked with

[@Barbarella62]

Well said James that is wrong on every level and he looked so proud saying it,he deserves to be condemned by it

[@haylstermchamster8107]

Why were children allowed near child killers????????

[@dorothythelabskeleton80]

Because the establishment is riddled with them.

[@natashamonks8476]

This is the craziest interview I've ever heard. No way in hell would i take my kid's into prison to spend time with a child killer

[@tristanwhite3472]

@@natashamonks8476 It's just umberlievable! What people do you just can't get your head round it.

[@gail9299]

That was her manipulating everyone and giving herself a sense of power and superiority. Imagine a child killer (and torturer) being able to persuade an official to bring their own children into her presence. That must have resulted in total euphoria for her. Why did no one even not consider this?

[@ann3654]

He has written a book called 'For the love of Myra' and he wasn't picked up on that! Good grief where are we in this world.

[@ceehud]

"second nature " quote . Bringing your children into a prison with rapists and whoever , this is INSANE .

[@phillipaevans4874]

I really liked this man until he spoke about taking his vulnerable daughter into a prison period! But, then to allow a prolific child killer to spend time with her and to go off into the prison alone with her is beyond irresponsible, disgraceful, foolish and pointless!! Myra has shown on multiple occassions that her brain doesn't connect with her crimes, the fact that she continued to fight for freedom tells me that. I have always believed that she is equally as evil as Brady and both were motivated by Sexual perversions related to vulnerable minors so God only knows what fantasies spending time with his daughter provoked!

[@ciaraosullivan6685]

This man is a joke

[@ej5335]

This guys brain is fried the way he tried to justify things wtffff

[@KeefCee]

The lift doesn’t reach the top floor With this fella ! Disgusting & creepy behaviour! Wrongun

[@annodomini7250]

Takes one to know one.

[@carolmakin8075]

Cant stand the way he calls her Myra like she's a old friend.😮

[@damienhunt4264]

I was just thinking that myself.

[@kellyhudson6108]

I totally agreer

[@suefortescue2201]

I agree. I think he liked her more than he was letting on. James asked if she had a thing for him but he should have asked did he have a thing for her. It turns my stomach

[@FaceFcuk]

1 word "GULLIBLE "

[@KenDignam]

Oddbod

[@BOD-fg8yp]

He got issues. why would you begin your child around a child killer. he a wrongun

[@jacktombs77]

Why even meet that thing in the first place, job or not!!

[@damienhunt4264]

I get a bad vibe off this interviewee..

[@lyndawilson3297]

Me an all

[@chrislebiedz7461]

Fair play to James to sit there and keep his composure ! I would have told the guy to leave the interview and never come back

[@peterelliott6780]

Sick taking your Daughter to meet Myra Hindley😮

[@donnawarren2743]

Myra was very manipulative. No matter how well he thought he knew her or how well they got on, she clearly managed to convince him she was trustworthy and it was a good idea to spend time alone with his 8 year old. Through his own naïvety and against his better judgment, he let a convicted serial child killer leave with his daughter to look around the prison. He is lucky nothing happened. The governor was completely irresponsible to let this happen. Ive watched alot of true crime and read a lot of books on prisons and the justice system and I’ve never been this shocked. Can you imagine the personal enjoyment Myra got out of that encounter? It seriously makes a mockery of the victims, the justice and the feelings of the victims families. Unbelievable.

[@BlowinFree]

I agree. Just imagine the absolute titillation she felt. He was dangling carrots under her nose. Is daughter would disown him

[@leejulieloach3877]

Uncomfortable to watch 🙄

[@CarlBland-l8l]

Cse he's a wrong un

[@curlybap8671]

As interesting as this story is, this fella is astoundingly irresponsible. I wouldn't leave my dog in the company of Broadmoor lifers, let alone a young child in the company of child killers. The look James gives him as he recounts this says it all.

[@Seventynaturally]

James’s face cannot hide his utter disgust

[@Rusty-Washer]

Social services needed to be involved when he introduced his daughter to hindley what a disgrace

[@Mumofthe3Ts]

Omg this is sick. I couldn't listen to a monster like that she doesn't deserve it !!

[@garyprezzie8415]

Looks like james had to bite his tongue a couple of times

[@daviddenham1511]

Seems like this guy can’t see that Hindley did anything wrong………scary

[@Tv_manREAL]

Clearly infatuated with her,bah!!! Absolute wronging 😢

[@louisemerriman1079]

I just couldn't

[@NellyHutchinson-z3z]

Making common ground with a child molesting murderer and you became ‘pals’ then YOU introduce your 8 year old to her like it’s so normal. She did tell to what they did to little girls didn’t she 🤯 was genuinely intrigued till he normalised this

[@leehambleton9919]

He's tapped in head can't belive I wasted 10 mins watching this crap

[@ksfwfc2899]

I get the creeps from this guy

[@katherine9226]

No way. Why would you take your daughter in to spend time with her. Disgusting!

[@ellenthibeault3940]

Am stunned that Hindley had the freedom to make a phone call! They have it way too easy in prison.the children that she helped to torture and kill ,never got the chance to to grow up and ever make a phone call !! . Don’t like this man interviewed doesn’t seem to be appalled by what that Demonic monster did .after he made a phone call he said…..give Myrah my love . Made my blood boil !!!

[@MarieCassidy-zd8sc]

Generally, I don't think they have, but it seemed she was. above the law

[@gefleigh4264]

Sounds like she played him aswell.

[@Mia-tk4wn]

What a roaster. Awful father.

[@Mumofthe3Ts]

You wouldn't even want her to eyeball your children !! The thought of it makes me sick 😢

[@JanEdwards-c1u]

He is lying. He keeps touching his ears , eyes , face , head. Some is true but not all of it.

[@121Denz]

Reminds me of one of them weirdo women you hear about that fall in love with killers that are locked up

[@DS_portraits]

"Didnt think id get to meet her" Like he's a fan

[@mattlenton2012]

Yep......hes fan worshipping her......

[@mkl0707]

He sold it to the paper

[@adamnew8361]

This is the one podcast that I thought he definitely needs to be investigated because some of the stuff he says raises eyebrows proper weird guy

[@Mad-Coo]

This bloke is not right. Power he had went to his head.

[@kimlouise4612]

How can you give her emotional support 🙄 These monsters can not be rehabilitated. They like it though! Justice system really do show their true colours... She should have been locked up for 24 hours and stayed in there until she rotted away

[@austinpibworth172]

Yeah really not sure about taking your kids into prison with child killers and sex offenders. Like giving an alcoholic the keys to a bar.

[@scousesally5977]

"Took and murdered children for pleasure" yet he takes his child in.....shouldnt be allowed....shocking...what a terrible father.

[@gemmagroves3825]

Jesus it gets worse , he takes his 8 year old into prison. Bearing in mind my father worked at a prison on the Isle of Wight, I remember once !!! Which was a big thing , to collect dad as he was ill. Mum drove in and we were in the car. ....sorry that is so wrong on every level.

[@damienhunt4264]

"Myra's personal officer." WTF?

[@MarieCassidy-zd8sc]

They all have

[@kieranjaymansfield]

How does the interviewer not know any facts about The Moors Murders? 🙄🙄

[@juliebarr5623]

This guy needs locked up for life.

[@YogicBarrister]

Awful interviewee... "me, me, me".

[@martindunstan8043]

I found the whole'Myra','trust','honesty' and 'my rock' as he spoke,rather disturbing. Was it his morbid curiosity wanting to take this job on? I shouldn't be judgemental I know,but this guy is creepy as hell! What kind of parent takes a young kid to see depraved,sadistic,child predators? Utterly bizarre,maybe I'm too quick to come to this conclusion,but that to me was irrational behaviour.

[@barryacecardsherbert876]

This bloke is a total simpleton 💯

[@jerrybrewer516]

Just got to 26 mins This is so WRONG!!!!!!

[@gemmagroves3825]

I find this very uncomfortable 17 mins in. The man has no emotion. Only time he's happy is if it involves a compliment from one of the most revolting woman to life. Sorry why would you put yourself out to do something of the sort in the first place .

[@cheriejackson6991]

JUST WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL 🤦‍♀️🤬 James ….. wow ! I’m sure that was a tough one ?

[@sanchamaher2808]

He likes what Myra done and offered his daughter. What a freak.

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

Ian was a classic Narcissist.

[@SeeScotland]

I worked with several murderers in the Scottish Prison Service in rehabilitation for realise. One was high profile and a pretty awful case. I was often conflicted as to whether I was doing the right thing.

[@robvinyl2314]

James definitely does not like him

[@shonabeggs4640]

14 mins in and my impression is, this guy has never been noticed by anyone except some alert women whose senses tell them get ready to fight or flight. An online psychology degree 😂 He would go anywhere to have someone make him feel he was important. I'll go out on a limb here and say he most likely sold the story to the sun via a third party, and the cash wasn't his motive.

[@MarieCassidy-zd8sc]

I thought that myself

[@cayasm]

Frankly outraged, the allowed a baby there, disgusting that he took his child there, even worse tries to normalise it.

[@philipbrackpool-bk1bm]

He should have asked his old friend where they put Keith Bennett so his family could finally get some peace.

[@StellaBastienne]

Exactly agree

[@1961-v9k]

My beloved late uncle, a former Kings Royal Hussar army major who became a prison officer after 22 years in the army looked after Ian Brady in Gartree prison. He referred to him as the Maggot. We never had a clue who he was referring to until after he retired from the prison service.

[@MarieCassidy-zd8sc]

Who Brady referred to him or vice versa

[@1961-v9k]

@@MarieCassidy-zd8sc wtf you on about ? I bet you would cause an argument in an empty room. Now jog on Marie.

[@Pro_Skillz]

protecting the public from her is what matters, not forgiveness.

[@melaniecharlton7121]

There’s absolutely no way I would have let my child anywhere near Myra Hindley!!What’s a matter with this guy🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@IreneRelph]

He made it his mission to to work with the monster to make a name for himself

[@RebeccaPenson]

He's not right. A massive fan and obsessed

[@KeepingTheFaith123]

Myra never showed any remorse. If she did then she would have let Keith Bennetts heartbroken mother know where her son was buried. But she let the woman go to her grave without giving her that closure.

[@privateeye6942]

100%!!! The fact both her and Brady didn't divulge his whereabouts should never be forgiven or forgotten. Any interaction with her should have been done if she gave his whereabouts in return. All of her victims should be alive and thriving right now and she took that all away from them.

[@KeepingTheFaith123]

@@privateeye6942 exactly. So he can't try and make out that she suddenly turned a corner and became a nice woman who regretted her crimes. And she also manipulated a prison warden and had an affair with her to use the warden in an attempt to escape out of prison. And manipulating Lord Longford in an attempt to be released early from prison. If she was truly sorry for her crimes she wud have wanted to stay in prison for the rest of her days as punishment for her crimes.

[@privateeye6942]

@KeepingTheFaith123 there has been some speculation that she was released and never died in prison. I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that when you look at the bigger picture of what was going on at the time and the people she had fighting her corner. She was meant to have been down to 8 stone before she died. Funny there aren't any photos of her looking unwell as you'd expect to see at some point. Then the alleged sighting of her after she meant to have died. There's no way they'd have wanted the public to know she released. Many, many people were showing her kindness, affection and giving of their time. I'll never understand why. She shouldn't have been given anything until she divulged where Keith was buried. Sadly I think there are many many more victims. The police only concentrated on people who disappeared locally but I have no doubt they are responsible for other disappearances in other parts of the country by travelling off together. To her, Keith probably was one of many who they hadn't admitted to.

[@KeepingTheFaith123]

@@privateeye6942 and that sister of hers Maureen was no better either as she ended up forgiving her and standing by her. Never forget Maureen on the TV show Brass Tacks speaking down to Lesley's mum Ann Downey and defending her sister Myra. It's bad enough defending her but to actually have a go at a victims mother like she did to poor Ann was disgraceful. Ann had been through enough. She didn't need that on top.

[@privateeye6942]

@KeepingTheFaith123 No she certainly didn't need that. I find it strange that other family members didn't know what they were up to. Like they took poor Edward Evans back to their house and didn't seem to mind neighbours hearing the loud screams from what he endured. What if family turned up while they were doing it? I still think there were more people involved.

[@davidentwistle5055]

Doesn’t he understand that Hindly was a narcissistic manipulative monster. Absolute insult to those poor little INNOCENT children

[@jeanmyers1787]

Myra Hindley was a master manipulator over and over again. I don’t know how relatives of those poor children feel when they hear her name spoken.

[@ross8156]

Imagine it was a man instead of a woman, like Ian Huntly...

[@mm7909]

Something about this guy just isnt right. Also notice a lot of nose rubbing indicating possible lying. Theres more to this guy than meets the eye i believe.

[@kennywilkinson913]

Just reading the comments and looking at him, the dots aren't hard to connect are they.

[@SeanH1984]

I’ve watched half of the episode and had to pause to write this comment. I’m willing to edit it later if I feel I’m wrong. From what I’ve seen, and the guy may not agree, but it seemed like he was infatuated by the “aura” of Hindley. He wasn’t exactly qualified, which he admits to, yet he felt he was still happy to work with Hindley. She mentioned in her first meeting with him that she would ultimately like to be free and had a hearing coming up, then lo and behold not long after their meeting she wants to speak to him and agrees she needs counselling. I wonder why that was? Is it because she wanted to show on her parole review that she was taking steps to change? She sounds like she was manipulating him and he was falling for it. So far he comes across as either naive, dumb or somehow liked the thrill of working with someone like Hindley. After all, why would you give up your free time which isn’t paid for to work with one of the most notorious child killers in UK history.

[@MichaelGuthrie-no6ns]

Never in a million years would my children be around a monster like Hindley. This interview is baffling , this guy is very strange.

[@JackKenna77]

I can't quite believe what I have just heard. 1. How tf is that legal? 2. What kind of human would let their 8 year old daughter near Myra Hindley? 3. How could a child possibly benefit from that? This kind of behaviour is akin to Jimmy Savile stories in my opinion. I'll have to watch the full video but I cannot fathom there being an explanation that I could accept unless there is something I just don't get

[@RyanWebb-e6b]

Omg this guy isn’t right talking about these women like they are normal . They killed and abused kids . Pure evil. imagine the poor family’s affected listening to this. Have your kids in there that’s crazy unbelievable. Disgusting what the hell is going on in this world.

[@jacquelinehayward3011]

No way should this man have allowed his precious daughter anywhere near myra or anyone in that prison

[@Blondiee777]

What the HELL have I just listened to??

[@blacks329]

This screw is a 🥓 himself!!!

[@jamiedalrymple3689]

How can anyone leave a loved one with a convicted child killer........unreal

[@karentranter7806]

OMGOODNESS this is total madness. The way he calls the child killers buy their first names like carol snd myra makes me want to be sick. How did you compose yourself James ❤ bless you. She needed help to get through this difficult time in her life WTF. What about the little children, screaming and pleading for help, where was there help. Thank you James ❤

[@michellex4744]

My auntie used to live a village away from Highpoint prison and I used to have nightmares when I stayed there thinking that monster was going to get out and take me 😭

[@anthonymitchell8893]

I think you were safe Michelle Myra dident go for little chonkers just skinny ones

[@michellex4744]

@@anthonymitchell8893 aww Anthony, is everything okay at home ? 😂😂 weird to make comments on my child body when you don’t even know who I am. 🤔 think you need your hard drive checked mate 😂

[@ruthsmith1694]

Why would anyone in their right minds have anything what so ever to do with a child killer? MH should not be even breathing air for for what she did.

[@katejohnson2407]

WTAF...unbelievable...can't believe my ears

[@carolmakin8075]

He contradited him self there, because he said, when he seen Hindley with the baby, he said he was surprised not at her holding the baby but that children wasn't allowed in there, but then he said he was used to seeing children there for Xmas things and stuff, unless i got it wrong.

[@mattlenton2012]

why TF would this man even give that monster the time of day???he talks about her with respect, and almost ...affection. a very,very, strange man.

[@angelachrystal6877]

If brains were made of dominoes this guy would be chappin !

[@georgescouse9547]

Disgusting this was allowed to happen

[@suzimonkey345]

Thank you! He’s very interesting to listen to.

[@STORMinaGcup]

Of course she was getTing a poke in the dark…wouldn’t put it past him that leaked the Visits.

[@susanwright5045]

He makes me feel sick.

[@laurastuart3814]

James English is creepy and menacing.

[@hannahsmith609]

What a strange strange man

[@drum27]

This guy isn't right in the head...

[@gra-emed3617]

Yeah headlines were right mate. Worst dad in Britain award goes to you

[@laurapaton-b9o]

Edward Evans was NOT Gay. He was lured back to the house with the Promise of meeting girls at a party. Brady and Hindley met him in a pub. He was 17.

[@MarieCassidy-zd8sc]

No I thought that he picked him up in a gay bar

[@missem6439]

What a disgrace! This man is awful on so many levels. I bet if the loophole wasn't closed, he'd be trying to take his grandchildren to visit Lucy Letby

[@bmkbmk4469]

Stopped watching after he talked about taking his daughter into prison... ect ect ........creepy