Pro Editor Reacts to Transitions in (G)I-DLE 'TOMBOY'

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Jordan Orme

Jordan Orme

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@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
Make a 15-20 sec video for a chance to win $1,000 in prizes :) www.jordanorme.com/editing-formula-contest
@ranyapreetanchal6684
@ranyapreetanchal6684 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyyy
@shooky_bxnny3773
@shooky_bxnny3773 2 жыл бұрын
Try some idles other song and everglow, dc, ateez.. I wish could join 😭
@ranyapreetanchal6684
@ranyapreetanchal6684 2 жыл бұрын
I will try my best to win the prize! Definitely will participate tho!
@armyblinkforever7273
@armyblinkforever7273 2 жыл бұрын
I AM BEGGING YOU, please react to After School by Weeekly
@GGCannon
@GGCannon 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan, please react to the "2021 em uma música" music video.
@sunshinesunoo1770
@sunshinesunoo1770 2 жыл бұрын
7:46 soyeon said “you get the song right? you'll get what i mean, tomboy” yes, it's just symbolic. the whole song is about breaking stereotype of how ppl nowadays underestimating women's abilities to do something
@naminamirawr
@naminamirawr 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy it does actually, the context of tomboy here is the same with Destiny Rogers' Tomboy song.
@ariathefirst6495
@ariathefirst6495 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy how about doing your research and finding out the gender bias going on there in SK?
@peachyytan1586
@peachyytan1586 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sunshinesunoo1770
@sunshinesunoo1770 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy how? breaking stereotype of how ppl nowadays underestimating women's abilities to do something, just like tomboy.
@isalxy.
@isalxy. 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy ur just not getting it.
@jenny-tk4xi
@jenny-tk4xi 2 жыл бұрын
saw a theory about that 'tomboy' is used to represent the breaking of gender stereotypes (perhaps this is what the "this is my attitude" and "it's neither man nor woman" lines mean) and i thought that was really interesting! and also the mv is so cool i loved it
@i_nevie_die
@i_nevie_die 2 жыл бұрын
It is! The G in Gidle stands for girl so that’s why the G in I Never Die posters is faded and sometimes not even there, and why there are missing posters for the G in the MV
@TheGreatEllie125
@TheGreatEllie125 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that too when I read those lyrics
@jenny-tk4xi
@jenny-tk4xi 2 жыл бұрын
@@i_nevie_die OH RIGHT i didn't realise that's a cool detail!
@smithchippie5546
@smithchippie5546 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're not literally trying to be Tomboys - it's having the attitude of one.
@prestonsalomon1778
@prestonsalomon1778 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s also a lesbian song since “I’m in love with a tomboy”, tomboys are usually females
@luisferd8097
@luisferd8097 2 жыл бұрын
they are not referring to the actual tomboy style, is more about them being fierce and getting out of the hyper feminine and girly stereotype society expects women to accomplish, kind of like "if this is not how girls should be, then i guess you can call me a tomboy if you want"
@hopehope3803
@hopehope3803 2 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@oideshannpuu_
@oideshannpuu_ 2 жыл бұрын
UP
@midoriyadeku6153
@midoriyadeku6153 2 жыл бұрын
He flopped at this one haha
@tusjinn9274
@tusjinn9274 2 жыл бұрын
This!
@mayhg3846
@mayhg3846 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Soyeon kinda said it herself in the MV as well: "If you get this song right, you'll get what I mean 'tomboy'", as this song is about breaking social gender stereotype.
@phoenixmaximus37
@phoenixmaximus37 2 жыл бұрын
I think your understanding on the word TOMBOY is only based on what you see and what you know in the western world. Mostly in Eastern and asian countries especially conservative countries uses the word TOMBOY as woman who breaks the gender role and perception of a woman according to that specific country/culture. A lot of "Tomboy" women can still look feminine but does not act accordingly to how their society perceives them. Just giving my 2 cents about your comment about tomboys and how they dress.
@shobeskirt6998
@shobeskirt6998 2 жыл бұрын
hi i saw your tweet and you're right
@Rixboi_7
@Rixboi_7 2 жыл бұрын
PREACH!!! Very well said !!!
@jreibanez2190
@jreibanez2190 2 жыл бұрын
He's a WHITE MAN. Bet ya he won't acknowledge anything.
@WuWaOSTS
@WuWaOSTS 2 жыл бұрын
@@jreibanez2190 racism is showing
@hanmira
@hanmira 2 жыл бұрын
@@WuWaOSTS against whom
@zucchinhi
@zucchinhi 2 жыл бұрын
i liked everything you said about the video editing and production ❗️but for clarification when they refer to “tomboy” or say “yeah i’m a fucking tomboy” they don’t mean just the style of clothing. in other countries “tomboy” would be used to shame or refer to a way a certain person behaves that is “not lady-like” which is why they mention things like not fitting into standards for women, smoking, cussing, drinking and such❗️
@judithkim4050
@judithkim4050 2 жыл бұрын
honestly even if you look up an English definition of tomboy they will mention the behaviors and characteristics before necessarily presentation -_- i don't know why everyone is getting so caught up on the fashion which leans more in the pop punk which is also valid considering the music. there can be femme presenting tomboys imo
@rg9991
@rg9991 2 жыл бұрын
@@judithkim4050 people just want to hate...videos with negative views get much more engagement than positive reviews
@runaa_boo
@runaa_boo Жыл бұрын
Exactly !!
@jah0oliah
@jah0oliah 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s get the cultural difference straight - As a FEMININE Asian I still have been called a tomboy for a number of small things from wearing oversized shirts to having any trace of a defiant attitude. It’s usually said as a backhanded insult like “you’re not being a proper lady”. So I love how this song is reclaiming that word and owning that attitude. Let’s try not to diminish feminist statements, even by accident, especially when Koreans are still living in a highly conservative and patriarchal society. They currently have to fight for basic women’s rights in their political environment.
@Rose-oo9gn
@Rose-oo9gn 2 жыл бұрын
As someone born and raised in America, tomboy usually meant a non girly girl. That’s it. Most of the tomboys I knew were really into sports.
@bxhija7898
@bxhija7898 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rose-oo9gn same as england
@vangyng
@vangyng 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT
@Elviichan
@Elviichan 2 жыл бұрын
Words can be used differently depending on the context, so let's appreciate OP's comment that explain how they see it in asian cultures.
@mauvemonster000
@mauvemonster000 2 жыл бұрын
i have to agree. however, in our country (philippines) tomboy means lesbian. in terms of culture, here in the Philippines we have this concept of "dalagang pilipina" - which means being modest, quiet and reserved. there's a huge pressure and expectation towards filipina women to act like this since it's traditional. so when their are women who act different they labeled right away as tomboy even they're not
@tckk8902
@tckk8902 2 жыл бұрын
The word Tomboy has very different connotation in most of the eastern countries. It's almost used synonymously to 'Rebellious Girl', someone who doesn't behave 'lady-like' etc. They went for THAT meaning of Tomboy, not the western one which pertains more to aesthetics. They challenge those stereotypes by claiming to be a Tomboy.
@AlexObcass
@AlexObcass 2 жыл бұрын
The meaning Jordan is giving the word here is not "the western one" we here know the different connotation of the word too and is a reclaimed word now. He just tried to be "i know best" and clearly he doesnt.
@almilall
@almilall 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexObcass he does not know best but he knows right just look at the dictionary. tomboy is an english word they cant change the word from a different language so they should create a new one in their own you cant just steal a word from a different culture and add your thoughts in its meaning lmao
@moisezb6147
@moisezb6147 2 жыл бұрын
@@almilall dude that’s how language works, you take words from other languages maybe modify them a bit but it’s not something they invented. I’m sure you use words like “micro” “minimum” “philosophy” “etc.” which are all words in english that are originally greek. Honestly you not understanding that a same word can have different connotations or multiple meanings depending on the culture is extremely ethnocentric of you
@MrMLaidlaw
@MrMLaidlaw Жыл бұрын
That's what a Tomboy means in the west as well... Apparently the difference is that it's a deadly insult in the east. I see it as a fun song about dom girls lol
@DuZ.
@DuZ. 2 жыл бұрын
🌟FACTS🌟 1. The Director and Editor is a Woman! She was the one that edited INVU of Taeyeon. 2. "Tomboy" is the term they chosed to speak out about the prejudice for Girl groups not being "girly" enough, so they say "it's neither man or woman", I-dle is whatever they want (the group even promoted without the G that emphasize them being girls/women).
@thundercloudss
@thundercloudss 2 жыл бұрын
Don't look at this song in a western perspective. I-DLE is from a conservative country (Korea). You say 'tomboy' to a woman who doesn't necessarily appear nor act feminine. Soyeon composed this song to say that's it's neither a man nor a woman, just I-dle. They will love and embrace themselves for who they are and what they are capable to do, even if they're not conforming with what society tells them to do as girls/woman. (There are also few female producers in Korea, and I-DLE members are one of those, mainly Soyeon) That's why 'G' in (G)I-DLE is missing in all the visuals, mainly because of two reasons: 1) G stands for six (6), but now they're only five. 2) G stands for 'girl'. They don't want to box themselves, they want to break gender stereotypes.
@kaedeharakazuha1081
@kaedeharakazuha1081 2 жыл бұрын
Tomboy meaning here in the Philippines (Asian country) is the same with Western. So at first, I'm just confused with the song. 🤣
@yourreactroy
@yourreactroy 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaedeharakazuha1081 I'm from ph but ik that tomboy is not just about the way a female should dress like a man? ig it's really a matter of perspective.
@thundercloudss
@thundercloudss 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaedeharakazuha1081 A lot of countries in the world defines it as a girl who's behaving like a boy/not feminine enough. But don't take it literally in a song. You need to look at the lyrics and visual. 'Neither man nor woman', meaning defying gender roles, gender expectations, and just being I-dle (themselves). 'Just me loving tomboy', meaning they are who they are, they will love themselves no matter if people wants to put them in a box.
@luvmoosam
@luvmoosam 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! 제일 맞게 설명했음. 그리고 idle도 I+'들' 이라는 의미임. 5명의 '나'라는 의미. 그래서 g를 빼는게 더 중요한거고 의미있는 것. 톰보이도 여러 의미를 담은 거고!
@dalylueur
@dalylueur 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaedeharakazuha1081 a fellow filo here but i get what their message at first watch. Being called a 'tomboy' here has always been a coincide of the way you dress and how you move or act (not being a proper lady) not solely on clothing. First hand experience here because i was called a 'tomboy' when i was a kid a few fimes for moving 'tough' and sometimes messy, playing outside with boys while dressing in t-shirt and 'tokong' shorts. The impression has been universal i think it just depends on your perspective.
@artsology7825
@artsology7825 2 жыл бұрын
So at the end of the video in the credits seen it shows Bomber MIYEON (the girl who threw the explosive lolipop) Sniper MINNIE (the girl with the gun you said was a barbie doll) Poisoner SOYEON (the girl who did the rap and blended ken) Driver YUQI (the girl with the blondish pink hair driving the car) Spectator SHUHUA (the girl in the movie scene)
@sillything_
@sillything_ 2 жыл бұрын
It was miyeon walking in the corridor
@thedivinefolktales3555
@thedivinefolktales3555 2 жыл бұрын
shuhua was in the movie scene jjust because miyeon and shuhua got same part dosenot means they are the same person.
@artsology7825
@artsology7825 2 жыл бұрын
oh that's my bad, sry I'm a new neverland 😅
@thedivinefolktales3555
@thedivinefolktales3555 2 жыл бұрын
@@artsology7825 ok srry if you found me rude 😋
@peachy241
@peachy241 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this MV. Hats off to the editor for creating this masterpiece
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼🤩
@rugswiper1866
@rugswiper1866 2 жыл бұрын
You are lucky dude
@shimpiyaa
@shimpiyaa 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@EngrKage
@EngrKage 2 жыл бұрын
You can watch the chipmunk version here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-loHmea5p5nNU
@EngrKage
@EngrKage 2 жыл бұрын
@@rugswiper1866 you can watch the chipmunk version here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-loHmea5p5nNU
@SuperAliScott
@SuperAliScott 2 жыл бұрын
THIS MV IS A BOMB!
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@EngrKage
@EngrKage 2 жыл бұрын
You can watch the chipmunk version here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-loHmea5p5nNU
@EngrKage
@EngrKage 2 жыл бұрын
@@JordanOrme you can watch the chipmunk version here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-loHmea5p5nNU
@Achuachujjrl
@Achuachujjrl 2 жыл бұрын
@@JordanOrme wdym by right ??
@neha3544
@neha3544 2 жыл бұрын
@@Achuachujjrl he means he's agreeing with the original comment
@k-aki9176
@k-aki9176 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the explosion behind Miyeon and the doll's parts I just thought what would be your reaction to it and yeah, I'm not disappointed lol
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks for hanging!
@EngrKage
@EngrKage 2 жыл бұрын
You can watch the chipmunk version here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-loHmea5p5nNU
@LollyByDay
@LollyByDay 2 жыл бұрын
3:22 "tomboy" is not only a noun but an adjective too, so the line "yeah i'm f*cking tomboy" is as grammatically correct as "yeah i'm f*cking awesome"
@HakunaMatata-co6ik
@HakunaMatata-co6ik 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for reacting (G)I-dle Tomboy MV! Glad that many people react to this MV. And I think through this MV you learn 2 things about *culture difference* between western and eastern cultures. 1. 3:25 It is 'I am fucking Tomboy'. Fucking is still considered as rude so they need to beep it in order to be media appropriate in South Korea and any other eastern countries. Fun fact: many beep on MV of eastern musics usually beeping for the word of 'fucking', so eastern audience know that without search it to the CD version. 2. 4:04 In eastern cultures, *Tomboy doesn't mean the appearance but mannerism.* Women and girls in eastern culture wearing feminine clothes are still considered as Tomboy because of their attitude, breaking the stereotype of being feminine attitude. Hopefully, this explanation widen you perspective. Many Thanks!😁
@ariathefirst6495
@ariathefirst6495 2 жыл бұрын
True. I dress up all girly and stuff but seriously, my interest are all boy stuff. Being a tomboy is not just about how one dresses. 🤦‍♀️
@hyerinit
@hyerinit 2 жыл бұрын
@@ariathefirst6495 fr
@BEELZEBUB-p5x
@BEELZEBUB-p5x 2 ай бұрын
dang u Rlly wrote all this just for him Not to read it LMAO (No hate)
@livfoofoo1110
@livfoofoo1110 2 жыл бұрын
Tomboy is image made by society (specifically men) for women who don't have feminine vibe or opinion which is literally the stereotype I-DLE is trying to break through this MV. In the MV when Soyeon is in the kitchen and the line goes "I don't wanna play this ping pong I would rather film a TikTok" It's her going against the stereotype that women belong in the kitchen only. Those lyrics mean that she's an independent woman and can do whatever.
@BEELZEBUB-p5x
@BEELZEBUB-p5x 2 ай бұрын
Love this comment
@PurnataHassan
@PurnataHassan 2 жыл бұрын
"you know what i mean tomboy" clearly some people didn't know what she meant. tomboy is not about them saying they're tomboys because they dress like that tomboy chorus is saying "fine i will be a tomboy" a statement to overcome gender barriers.
@uanchoalido7173
@uanchoalido7173 2 жыл бұрын
"Tomboy" was written by Soyeon who also composed and arranged the song alongside Pop Time and Jenci. Musically, the song was described as a rock and pop punk song with lyrics about "independence and breaking the mold [of] being a 'perfect' girlfriend".
@moonsmien
@moonsmien 2 жыл бұрын
Eyyy :D I know it's very easy to gloss over the deeper message of the song because the Tomboy aesthetic is what most people relate it too but the message really goes deeper than just stylistic choices. The "This is my attitude." line is one of the main hooks and I also think it's one of the most telling statements on how becoming a "Tomboy" is not just applying boyish styles but rather, becoming free to express yourself the way you want to. At the first parts of the MV, the girls are always confined in 4 walls. Even if it's a hallway, Soyeon's asylum, Minnie's room, etc. until Miyeon sees through the keyhole Yuqi and Shuhua driving. I interpret this as them finally *seeing* things from the outside perspective. They just became introduced to the concept of controlling one's self (hence, Yuqi driving her own car). The dolls also represent the idea of the ideal feminine while Ken, contrary to popular belief, does not simply represent their significant other but also the concept of toxic masculinity / misogyny. At the start of the MV, the audience perspective is also in first person, we're the ones being loaded into a car, being pointed a gun towards, etc. Just like how the girls slowly escape the enclosure, literal boxes, we also go from being in the first person to third person. We finally see what's inside the trunk because we, ourselves, are also free. 6 balloons representing IDLE (yeah, let me dream) and then the rest representing Neverland! They've literally killed the preconceived notions of what any of us are supposed to act like and what society dictates how we should act. In the end, there's so many layers and connections sprinkled through the MV that even I'm still trying to find them all. And in this comment, I haven't even discussed everything solely because of the *sheer* amount of messages you can derive from the lyrics alone. It's really fun! And I can't really blame people for missing what the song really means because of the assumptions we make with the word "Tomboy", which only proves IDLE's point.
@c.h.u.nleung813
@c.h.u.nleung813 2 жыл бұрын
Everthing about this comeback is IN F*CKING SANE. I am not even a fan like that but from the song to the music video to the styling are screaming ICONIC, and excuse me who did the choreo for this because the ending scene is HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
@wineparty5983
@wineparty5983 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with u so muuuch....the outfits are fire🔥 the last scene of the MV is beautiful, like the choreography.... and the meaning of the song is very important and so good👏🏻😊
@axis1198
@axis1198 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the title being "Tomboy", the song is a commentary and criticizing the conventional, standards, and stereotypes present in our societies today. Like just like what Soyeon says, Tomboy is an attitude, we dont mf need to fit in to your expectation just so one could be called tomboy. Same goes to her line "Sometimes we swear without cigarettes" as there is this stigma, mainly in Korea that when a girl swears a lot, it more likely that they smoke cigarettes and drinks a lot, and vice versa. She basically means, I dont need cigarettes just for me to swear. I can be whoever I want to be, and still be able to swear. If only I could make a video of explaining this song to international listeners because most of y'all really dont get it at all. Even Jordan himself "makes a frown face" because he expected the girls to be wearing some stereotypical tomboy clothing, but no, we dont have to fit in to those stereotypes just to be validated with how we want to be.
@ariathefirst6495
@ariathefirst6495 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that the smoking and swearing has a direct relation to Soojin too as she was accused of that when she was a teenager.
@rg9991
@rg9991 2 жыл бұрын
@@ariathefirst6495 which is a ridiculous thing to "accuse" someone of...
@ОляМакей
@ОляМакей 2 жыл бұрын
Men, tomboy is also about behaviour Not only appearance
@shobeskirt6998
@shobeskirt6998 2 жыл бұрын
INDEED 👍🏻
@aaliyahate
@aaliyahate 2 жыл бұрын
not the men
@yosancahyadi4852
@yosancahyadi4852 2 жыл бұрын
I think they meant "Yeah I'm a f*cking tomboy", because the next line is "Yeah I'll be the tomboy" I'm from Indonesia (a part of Southeast Asia) and I totally understand what they meant by 'tomboy'. I think in Asian culture, the term 'tomboy' is mostly used to describe a manly/boyish, fierce, strong woman. For example: "Yeah, she never wants to wear a skirt, she's very tomboy" "She's a tomboy, no wonder why boys don't want to date her" Or if you want to be more specific, 'tomboy' can also mean a woman that takes the man's part in a relationship (?), this is rarely used though but the meaning can also lean this way.
@NatachaBesnard
@NatachaBesnard 2 жыл бұрын
Normally "Tomboy" it's in "old mind" for say a girl don't like "girly" things. So I think she plays with all girly things, she refuses to be.
@ko1619
@ko1619 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy Okay but it's an artistic approach bruh
@judithkim4050
@judithkim4050 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy tomboy is not an aesthetic, an aesthetic can definitely be a part of it, but its literally "girls who prefer doing boy things" wearing more boy like clothing is only one, small imo, aspect of doing a boy thing. plus korea has their own ideas about what is for boys and girls
@makiintensifies7266
@makiintensifies7266 2 жыл бұрын
@Chilla Foxyy But it's Korea, you'd have to see how they use that word, if they use it at all. Anyway, it seems like it's just a way to symbolize criticism of idols. You have to know the context, they said earlier that the song is a kind of "response" to fans who just criticize the artists, there is a name for them but I don't remember it. Maybe knitz or sometime like this. (deepl translate)
@Babyboyhaechannie9163
@Babyboyhaechannie9163 2 жыл бұрын
@@judithkim4050 the word is used differently in Korea. Do some research on that
@itzymidzy828
@itzymidzy828 2 жыл бұрын
listen to dreamcatcher and loona next pls they are so underrated
@csuklok1
@csuklok1 2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY queens
@toaa_a
@toaa_a 2 жыл бұрын
Litt
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll see!
@izmulti999
@izmulti999 2 жыл бұрын
He already reacted to both groups
@amayatacub831
@amayatacub831 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this you should do a lot more of both!
@georgina6917
@georgina6917 2 жыл бұрын
The irony or Soyeon asking if you get the song and the message if the song flying over your head. They are not being Tomboys, they are stating you can call them Tomboy if you like due to them breaking a bunch of female stereotypes in the video but they are just I-DLE.
@Wavesinsomniac
@Wavesinsomniac 2 жыл бұрын
I like your content because you're teaching us and also make us appreciate the mv even more buuuut i'm a little disappointed that you didn't understand the point of the song and didn't look past your first thought
@zenk1l
@zenk1l 2 жыл бұрын
8:59 It has 6 Balloons which reminds me of Soojin 😭
@stanalexastantalent4505
@stanalexastantalent4505 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how I feel about the song, but the MV... It was just on another level
@gamingwithdonut7501
@gamingwithdonut7501 4 ай бұрын
a little thing you notice if you watch it slowly, the cut out peices of paper or other objects actually say the lyrics! Like in the beginning the license plate says, "THIS IS MY ATTITUDE" which is in the chorus i think. Also this one: at 2:47 it says "NETHER MAN NOR WOMAN" which is another line
@ginnyisgigi
@ginnyisgigi 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of fans think that tomboy is a song made for their ex member soojin. Soojin was known for being a tomboy and also for loving dance and the members and soyeon says that in her rap. Soyeon also mentions smoking, drinking, sex and swearing in her rap which is a few of the things that soojin was falsely accused of and the members are seen with moles under their eyes which is one of the signature points of soojin's appearence. Not only that but the song was the one of the first released after she was kicked out and it is an angry song which makes sense as soojin was innocent.
@ariathefirst6495
@ariathefirst6495 2 жыл бұрын
I like your views on video editing but I feel kind of sad how you looked at the song, I'm not sure if you read the lyrics. In South Korea, women are expected to behave a certain way and this song was a way to empower women to stand up to how they want to see themselves as and not be dictated by social norms. There aren't a lot of female producers there in South Korea because of the gender bias that it is a man's job. She mentioned on her interview that she was told this when she wanted to start writing her own songs. I feel like this song really did a good job showing that.
@athenas1384
@athenas1384 2 жыл бұрын
Soyeon the leader writte and producer all songs from debut, and she is Akali in K/Da She is amazing
@ArtsyAme
@ArtsyAme 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the MV!! However, a lot of people like you are saying “The concept fails to grasp the meaning of tomboy. They are NOT tomboys, they are dressed too feminine!” People saying that is the exact reason why this song was written in the first place. The whole song is a paradox: it is meant to represent the way people put women into boxes for everything they do instead of letting them be. The irony of the word “tomboy” while wearing feminine clothing is the evidence, and also the sentence “do you want a blonde barbie doll?” while they themselves represent dolls with dark hair. In the video, Idle is choosing to be “dolls” on their OWN terms, to be “tomboys” on their OWN terms. It’s also a way to represent how idols (not only girls, although they are the most common target) are put into perfect boxes of behaviour and looks.
@axlegindervald3016
@axlegindervald3016 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why she put the phrase “you’ll get this song right you’ll get what I mean tomboy”
@yume_miko
@yume_miko 2 жыл бұрын
8:26 "So I'm Ken. I'm this blonde, white boy that is getting kidnapped by I-DLE." OH MY GOD I'M DEAD
@straggot
@straggot 2 жыл бұрын
i don't think You understood what they were trying to do by having a "tomboy" concept for the song 😭 but anyway great reaction i like seeing you talk about the transitions
@andreamiller8123
@andreamiller8123 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the sam. Plus, he didn't even finish the whole video, or at least thats what I see.
@wisestwise
@wisestwise 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect the you will react on this mv, i've always wanted to see you react in (G)I-DLE's music videos because they are my ultimate stan and i like the way you react to every mvs. I'm a kpop stan that love editing so i find you very entertaining and i gain knowledge when you notice every little transition/edited parts in a music video! I'm from Philippines and i always watch your reaction videos ^__^
@audrey8153
@audrey8153 2 жыл бұрын
Dunno if it was me, But on his story on Instagram, I told him to react to Girl's Tomboy then enct day found this lol
@Sarah-ft4xo
@Sarah-ft4xo 2 жыл бұрын
He reacted to Oh my god too
@whoisthis1516
@whoisthis1516 2 жыл бұрын
(G)I-DLE's music videos don't have many edits, only a few have edits, that is: Hann(Alone), Señorita, Oh My God, and Tomboy I've recommended Hann's music video to Jordan, the answer is always "we'll see ^^" fuck
@lishasubs6726
@lishasubs6726 Жыл бұрын
Also Nxde ❤️
@ivannas5540
@ivannas5540 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest if this song had maybe been released any other time I would have probably thought it was a pretty standard song with a pretty conventional message for K-pop nowadays (even if it is a bit more radical in its depiction of it). However SK's has a very heated political climate right now especially in terms of gender politics, all culminating in the fact that the newly elected president is considered by many to be an anti-feminist who many believe used misogynistic comments to gain the sympathy of male voters, many of whom are frustrated at the ever-increasing competitiveness of the job market and have blamed it at some sort of reverse gender discrimination. Given all this, I feel like the fact that (G)I-DLE decided to release this song during a time like this when it contains somewhat radical (at least in South Korean standards) elements like the line "neither man nor woman" or a depiction of them kinda murdering a man lol says a lot about their artistry and boldness in my opinion, even if the delivery of the song is itself a bit messy and confusing at times. And, don't get me wrong, this is not really me trying to label this song as political but rather trying to give credit to (G)I-DLE where credit is due, especially to Soyeon whose artistic decisions I do not always like but have to give major props to for always being extremely confident and authentic with her projects.
@tasnim5803
@tasnim5803 2 жыл бұрын
Were you waiting for this comeback?? Aw never expect that you'll upload reaction video of "Tomboy" mv this early.
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
Yes :)
@thundercloudss
@thundercloudss 2 жыл бұрын
@@JordanOrme i love you haha
@moonplaylist5411
@moonplaylist5411 2 жыл бұрын
The word "TOMBOY" for others like fashion wear but in Phillipines, the word TOMBOY used to be called to the women who wears clothes, the style and act like a man. As a Asian Woman, sometime they scolded me to act like a lady but I can't. If they don't accept the attitude and respect of being tomboy, just let us be happy and be comfortable what attitude we showed to people.
@hellbunniez3
@hellbunniez3 2 жыл бұрын
agree. this happened to me too as a child and it left me questioning my own identity for YEARS, hating that part of myself that was not traditionally feminine because they always said it in a negative way towards me and because it wasn’t the “norm.” as a result i associated the term as something odd and not normal, even toeing the line of being misogynistic towards my own gender. when i grew up i kind of shunned that old thinking that was influenced by my elders and the people around me by changing my mindset into not giving a flying frick and i’m really happy that i am the way i am. i’m born like this, i’ll live my life like this, i’ll be this person. i would’ve been so miserable if i gave in to the naysayers, and i really love that a song about rejecting stigmatisation about what being a girl is and being yourself came out. props to gidle on this one (and it’s a banging song to boot!)
@kzuamp
@kzuamp 2 жыл бұрын
loved this mv so much
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
🤩
@MsKareboo
@MsKareboo 2 жыл бұрын
It surprises me that u didn’t notice what they mean for “Tomboy” being an Editor yourself, literally you can see it since the beginning of the video.
@mateopineda.7847
@mateopineda.7847 2 жыл бұрын
soyeon said “you get the song right?” but definitely you DON’T
@Minecraft231h
@Minecraft231h 2 жыл бұрын
SHE KNEW SOME PPPL WONT UNDERSTAND SUCK A QUEEN LMAOISJEKW😭😭😭😭
@thatskykid342
@thatskykid342 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact (that 83% of ppls know): Tomboy is actually used as a Filipino word for Lesbian:)) but different pronunciation
@d3st1nyformerlycean52
@d3st1nyformerlycean52 2 жыл бұрын
9:29 if you notice, those are two very different frames flashing! Notice their skirt size by pausing the red screen! They are wearing the tuxedo/suit there but a red dress in the normal coloured part
@sheenajoyechem8436
@sheenajoyechem8436 2 жыл бұрын
8:05 Jordan and that doll Ken have the same hairstyle 👀
@yasminchan7425
@yasminchan7425 2 жыл бұрын
Soyeon absolutely KILLED the concept
@seanontroyreal9245
@seanontroyreal9245 2 жыл бұрын
Tomboy is not only how you dress its how you act also.
@serohed6877
@serohed6877 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the concepts! they were useful for understanding a bit more about the technical part about the video itself. However, I think you misunderstand what the group tried to tell with the tomboy thing. There are two very important lines that gives the hint: “you get the song right? you'll get what i mean, tomboy” and "neither man or woman, just ()I-DLE". Basically what they are trying to say it's they want to do whatever they want without being considered "girly" or "tomboy", they just want to be themselves. I mean, they pretty much say it in their live.
@victora.fagundes1487
@victora.fagundes1487 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Jordan really looks like the Ken HAHAHA
@louie9447
@louie9447 2 жыл бұрын
omg thank you for no introduction, its so much better when you click a video and the content is there right away ❤
@HeraCythera
@HeraCythera 2 жыл бұрын
Soyeon's charisma is out of this world
@morscertaa
@morscertaa 2 жыл бұрын
idk if anyone has said this yet BUT. if you see a lollipop in a kpop mv it could very well be a stand-in for a cigarette. they can't show them on TV in SK so they just use lollipops to get the message across.
@greggrey7917
@greggrey7917 2 жыл бұрын
i see the Power ⚡ of Soyeon i see the Heart ♥ of Minnie , i see the Soul of Yuqi , i see the Charm of Shuhua , i see the Beauty of Miyeon , i Feel the Flame 🔥 and Fire 🔥of Soojin in all the Members Hearts ♥ .
@angelic_flow3rs
@angelic_flow3rs 4 ай бұрын
Notice how at 4:53 soyeon was making a cake, and at 7:51 both barbie and Ken were eating the cake that soyeon made
@ramen7754
@ramen7754 2 жыл бұрын
“do they know what a tomboy is” the girls that get it get it, the girls that don’t don’t
@Minecraft231h
@Minecraft231h 2 жыл бұрын
and whats that on? Period.
@Meyvagul61
@Meyvagul61 6 ай бұрын
3:37 she says "Yeah, ı'm f*cking tomboy"
@shawnct1610
@shawnct1610 2 жыл бұрын
"If you get the song right, you get what I mean Tomboy"
@davinashi9394
@davinashi9394 Жыл бұрын
Think of it this way, "yeah I'm f- tomboy" isn't grammatically correct if you don't really THINK about the song. It isn't just saying they are 'a' tomboy, they're saying they are 'THE' tomboy, representing the power and confidence they are implementing.
@mel7993
@mel7993 2 жыл бұрын
This Music Video (and song) is just next level
@groovyc4496
@groovyc4496 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the point of the mv tho :)(tomboy).....also the clothes do fit the pop punk /rock theme the song has. I loved the styles.
@MrHmmm98
@MrHmmm98 2 жыл бұрын
She just blended Ken - I mean - I felt that one.
@raisxz
@raisxz 2 жыл бұрын
I WAS LIKE “Jordan should react to this” WHILE WATCHING TOMBOY AND AFTER WATCHING THE WHOLE MV I SAW THIS VIDEO
@warmth9649
@warmth9649 2 жыл бұрын
The lyrics itself explains what their referring too. Cultural difference by word 'Tomboy', I'm Asian... I'll got wear Oversized shirt, sits comfortably, walk comfortably, yet a lot of people are telling me to act feminine and said that I'm a Tomboy. I'll be outgoing, hanging out with my friends, One joke will make me a Tomboy in their eyes... Tomboy isn't always about acting masculine when ur a girl or dressing up like a Boy. The comments in here explained it well.
@naniyomihayo8501
@naniyomihayo8501 2 жыл бұрын
When they said "Just me loving tomboy " it felt like the doll " ken " is the tomboy, I dunno I'm still confused but addicted to the song
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
Huh! That’s interesting
@i_nevie_die
@i_nevie_die 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Ken represents people that force gender stereotypes on them. “Loving tomboy” means the girls loving who they are and they’re comfortable being themselves, a mixture of feminine and masculine. And when they say they’re not a man or woman it refers to something Soyeon has said about being a female producer which is rare in Kpop and how she doesn’t want people to label Idle as women or a girl group because they are capable of doing the same things men do in the industry
@thundercloudss
@thundercloudss 2 жыл бұрын
@@i_nevie_die Thank you for the enlightenment!
@judithkim4050
@judithkim4050 2 жыл бұрын
@@i_nevie_die finally someone gets it 😭😭 I feel like I only ever see ppl missing the entire gd point of this song
@fullyasian98
@fullyasian98 2 жыл бұрын
@@judithkim4050 well people like to be spoon fed.. And can't read between the lines... Basically they have the IQ of Patrick Star.... Idle killed this concept
@prrndr
@prrndr 2 жыл бұрын
When you said "If you wore this outfit...there might be some catcalls", that bothered me if you think that way. 4:17
@kuromi4111
@kuromi4111 2 жыл бұрын
I think he meant that he would look good in it😭😭 not the girls
@prrndr
@prrndr 2 жыл бұрын
Well regardless if he meant himself or the girls. Still, the mindset that women are catcalled because of what they wear 😭
@kuromi4111
@kuromi4111 2 жыл бұрын
@@prrndr true
@akuny9303
@akuny9303 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how he breaks down the video. I mean, it's hard to editing the video so appreciate this guy! Thankyou for reacting!
@xim1545
@xim1545 2 жыл бұрын
3:16 “Yeah, i’m fucking tomboy”
@helen4311
@helen4311 2 жыл бұрын
i really love this mv so much
@haohaos
@haohaos 2 жыл бұрын
I think what idle mean as "tomboy" like someone is like playing them which cause them from being a tomboy? Then they plan to kill the boy- WELL IDK IF THIS- yeah idk what I just talked about 😃👍
@Sabrea.
@Sabrea. Жыл бұрын
I literally love when he looks at G-IDLE videos. Because I know so many k-pop mv videos are great. But for some reason I feel like G-IDLE has such god quality mv's
@tang4471
@tang4471 2 жыл бұрын
When soyeon asked if u got what they mean by tomboy i dont think u actually understood what they meant
@kelvie_w3315
@kelvie_w3315 2 жыл бұрын
First time watching this MV through a professional editor's lens! Very well commented and thankful for learning to appreciate more about video editing!
@zmiarta666
@zmiarta666 2 жыл бұрын
In the middle school my girly friends called me tomboy only bc I spend a lot of time with boys (not hook up with them), we were playing soccer together and because I weren't too emotional they had a lot of respect to me Tomboy is a girl who has a lot of boyish behavior, some people don't accept girls/women who do typical men things
@muhammadzaheedsufian2922
@muhammadzaheedsufian2922 Жыл бұрын
On the chorus that the one that you don't know it's actually "Yeah I'm f**king tomboy" that's it
@PeterVC
@PeterVC 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw that transition where she steps on the photo, I knew you were gonna love it ;p
@k-aki9176
@k-aki9176 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never has been this early, can't wait to see Jordan being shocked by Idle
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯
@dalylueur
@dalylueur 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a filo comment that the 'tomboy' sentiment is the same as western. I'm also a fellow filo but i get their message. Overtime the 'tomboy' impression changes from based solely on their clothing to attitude. (but i also think it collides to one another at some point). It's not solely based on the clothing but the attitude. You see a girl acting boyish here in ph wearing girls clothing locals will say "oh she's a tomboy". I think the song is about breaking stereotype and just embracing the fact someone's being called a tomboy for some reason and mocking that same 'someone'. Being brave and confident about who they are regardless of anything. This is a timely message for what happened in the elections of their country. (it's purely coincidental i believe yet this is timely accurate). I guess they used a ken doll to mock because most of the time men are using the term tomboy to describe a girl especially the heavy mysoginistic tendencies in their country. (G)I-dle did a concept and a song up for discussion and they did it fairly well. The songs and MV are superb!
@makiintensifies7266
@makiintensifies7266 2 жыл бұрын
You have to know the context, they said earlier that the song is a kind of "response" to fans who only criticize idols, there is a name for them but I don't remember it. Maybe "knitz" or something like that. It would seem that the word "tomboy" is just a symbolism of such criticisms. Anyway you would have to know if and how they use that word in Korea. (deepl translate)
@makiintensifies7266
@makiintensifies7266 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the "you" is well used in my comment, I meant people in general, but it was translated that way. I'm still bad with English xd
@itzmuf_fin
@itzmuf_fin 2 жыл бұрын
3:31 is it just me or is this the most funniest thing about the whole video~~~
@starei
@starei 2 жыл бұрын
G idle always has an amazing song for every comeback like wow and idk why but this gives me itzy Loco vibes
@dawnlochner3105
@dawnlochner3105 2 жыл бұрын
I have been checking for you on this!!!! Luuuuuv you're positive energy!!! I always enjoy you educating us!!! 🤘 *I think she means 'Im A fkkng Tomboy' just broken English* Maybe lol
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤷🏼‍♂️
@asteriaaa_
@asteriaaa_ 2 жыл бұрын
i think they bleep it so that they can perform/promote this song on music shows.
@tiakapoor8171
@tiakapoor8171 2 жыл бұрын
But like many idols like blackpink also use curse words without getting bleeped (ㆁωㆁ) like pretty savage and others
@kirnstenespiritu3531
@kirnstenespiritu3531 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiakapoor8171 but bp had to change those certain parts in order for pretty savage to be performed on music shows but they say that the CD version of it contains the swearing (including the other swear words that are in korean tho)
@tiakapoor8171
@tiakapoor8171 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirnstenespiritu3531 OoO okie thanks for telling me I really appreciate it, I learnt something new (◕ᴗ◕✿)(ᵔᴥᵔ)
@evgenijapaloska5557
@evgenijapaloska5557 2 жыл бұрын
8:33 jordan realizing he has been kidnapped
@fonchi_0481
@fonchi_0481 2 жыл бұрын
They are the best, song of the year 💜
@derisyaher
@derisyaher 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is no matter how hard i try to focus on the video-wise there is always something that i missed that's why i always come to your channel. thank you for always being positive and all the details you share with us lol.
@cherL0us.
@cherL0us. 2 жыл бұрын
THIS SONG IS SO ADDICTING
@olivoliv2109
@olivoliv2109 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna speculate that this song has soojin in mind. In the allegations they said that she drank alcohol, smoked cigarettes - which are represented in soyeone rap. There are 6 baloons. I might be reaching tho xd
@aurnaurrr
@aurnaurrr 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan: well that’s not grammatically correct Me: then you’re going to HATE the next part bud
@aarushidebnath1786
@aarushidebnath1786 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the lolipop is red and in 5:12 we see ken being destroyed or killed by the girls and his blood is red. In addition, later we saw the girls were kidnapping Ken in the trunk, and from the trunk we saw heart shaped balloons and the shape of the lolipop is a heart. So, what I mean is that the lolipop is made of or referred as Ken.
@hmara4345
@hmara4345 2 жыл бұрын
3:53 I love this part of the song cause the scene kinda says 'women r supposed to be in the kitchen' 😀
@renzguitche3736
@renzguitche3736 2 жыл бұрын
I think the team that did Irene and Seulgi's Monster we're also part of the production for this MV
@alexanderidle6843
@alexanderidle6843 2 жыл бұрын
listen the idea of the song and mv is about how society expects and basically forces woman to be more "feminine" by policing them and giving them certain "rules" how to act and react. being a tomboy to idle in this song is more about the attitude than anything else, like society would call any woman who doesn't submit to men or put herself beneath them a "tomboy" no matter how sexuaIIy appealing she is just bc they believe being strong independent and fierce isn't a feminine thing so by saying they are tomboys meaning they're fierce and won't submit to what society expects from females to be like and they have no problem if people find that not feminine or call them tomboys I knew the concept of the mv was gonna fly over so many people's heads when I first watched it but I didn't expect u to be one of them LOL
@neavairimaa6785
@neavairimaa6785 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought from seeing this mv was "ooooh I wish Jordan does video about this!"
@helloworldholly4552
@helloworldholly4552 2 жыл бұрын
i loved the red theme and this and barbie LOL
@JordanOrme
@JordanOrme 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@nyanperonachan4291
@nyanperonachan4291 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan please remember taking care and sleeping well. Tysm for the explanations on the editing btw💚
@Snowiest-qz8zc
@Snowiest-qz8zc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know it's true or not but it's just did a litte bit of research Like in the first part of Minnie say she got her ex name on her feet and usually when someone get their ex name tattoo on their body it's a symbol to their entire relationship so she basically saying she stepping on their entire relationship like it mean nothing. So next part is soyeon line's i think everyone got the message it basically saying I'm not a barbie you can control like that. Next is Miyeon line she said "people say it's crazy what's the loss to me" basically that line say even if people criticize their relationship what's the loss for her cause it's him who love her and he started to curse at her which means the man is mad and Miyeon say you'll will lose to me so she say she just can get out of the relationship either way The next line is Yuqi line she say love won't leave a scar on her body so love scar mean they will committed to their new interests since their wounds still open from the past relationships so Yuqi is saying she won't be having an another man in her life kinda like that and she said she don't want to wear a perfume which smell rotten i think but it's basically means she don't want to fake it Now to the main part Minnie say "I'm a fu***** tomboy" tomboy means a girl who act as a men so she saying she will be the man of the relationship So the rap have come the first line is "I don't want to play ping pong" i think what she meant is like the song ping pong by dawn and Hyuna and she rather film a tik tok i don't what that mean moving on she said your mom raised you as a prince basically being a perfect man for a women and soyeon continue saying but this is a queendom that's mean there's no king so soyeon don't want him even tho he's a prince The next two line i have no explanation for it but the next line soyeon say she love drinking whiskey and she won't change it,when someone like drink whiskey it mean their are confident and know what they like and what they don't that's why soyeon said she won't change it Next is shuhua line she say stop pretending I'm crazy which mean psycho and she continues saying "swear at me brutally you're lost to me" same meaning as Miyeon previous line Next is Miyeon line and her line have the same meaning as Yuqi previous line
@Snowiest-qz8zc
@Snowiest-qz8zc 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's all I can say about this song really oh and Jordan they bleeped the curse word because in the kpop industry when an idols curse usually it mean they have a bad reputation kinda like that and that's why they bleeped it so whoever listen to the song they'll know they cursed in the song
@al5238
@al5238 2 жыл бұрын
😯
@mrlately
@mrlately 2 жыл бұрын
i love how you're able to reference other kpop mvs that have similar stufg
@mel7993
@mel7993 2 жыл бұрын
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