Pro Fence Builder Reacts to DIY Horizontal Fence!

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[@BYOTools]

Ooooo i wish I saw your video sooner lol! Thanks for the support buddy and glad I got the seal of approval from a pro like yourself. Keep up the great work on your channel and if anyone is interested on how the fence heldup over your years I did do a quick rejuvination video. Luckily everything still functions extremely well and looks good to this day.

[@JoeEverest]

Love it!

[@Akatsuki-En]

Not me watching videos all week prepping for building mine this weekend and realizing you can truly find anything on KZbin

[@JoeEverest]

You’ve got this 👊

[@johnbode2756]

I also like the top cap. However, the gate looks a little odd without the top cap. There should be a way to add a cap to it.

[@billparrish4385]

A couple of observations: When pre-drilling the ends of a stack like that, I'd support them on a bench, use a square on the end of the stack to align them, and use a drill press down through that many boards (or else make a drilling jig, and do them one at a time). His stack is not square on the end, and looks like his drill bit isn't either, resulting in holes of varying distances from the end. He's got some play on the post, but to avoid putting a screw too close to the side face of the post, take steps to know where the holes end up in the boards on the bottom of the stack, farthest away from your drill. Also, it's always a good idea to crown your cap board (i.e., make the end grain look like a smile, not a frown), so the inevitable weathering doesn't result in the board cupping on you, turning it from a nice cap board into a trough. I like the looks of a cap board that has each half angled down away from the center line, which is very easy to do by setting your table saw blade at 5 degrees (or less), and passing the board edge-up through it, with the rip fence set at a distance where the blade exits at the center line, or just shy of it. A bit of an angle always helps shed rain and snow (though it plays havoc with setting your coffee mug on top of it....). I'll forego comment on re-using the pipes, since Joe and many commenters already have, except to say that it's possible they were set in concrete and it just wasn't mentioned. You still don't know the depth of the concrete they're in, but it's a safer bet that they're sturdy. Just driven in the ground, you're right, you don't know how deep, or how they'd resist the 'sail in the wind' forces of the new fence, causing it to fail.

[@thenarrator1984]

It's a fence. If you can't drill 90 enough for a fence by eye you have no business being in any trade.

[@rogerbettencourt9654]

It definitely looks nice. I like horizontal fence however I think one of my favorite wood privacy styles will be the old basket weave. Nice one Joe and gang.

[@gulashonu]

Definitely like the idea of a metal post support with wood attached. Pretty cool.

[@charlessloop1552]

I have not been handed a horizontal fence work order yet they mainly go to the wood only Forman but I do like them and the top cap definitely adds a nice finish look. I agree with a new fence I would have pulled the metal posts just a eye soar to me but I got the feeling that this was his house and he probably set the metal post and he is the one that has to look at them. And those easy gate systems work I have used them probably easier then building a wood frame on site but if u can build on a bench in shop that is my preferred look but over all a few minor differences in methods but good looking finished project

[@StevenDavisPhoto]

Love the top cap. Saw em a lot in Portland and gonna be doing one for my fence.

[@JoeEverest]

Agreed, it adds a really nice finishing touch! Thanks for watching!

[@BryanBarcelo]

A Top cap, on a short fence like this is additional surface area to place stuff, it's like having a table or shelf space that goes all the way around the yard.

[@NoahDevine91]

Looks nice I would have installed new posts or hide the steel by drilling into the wood and bolting them onto the steel pipe, he definitely has skills and did a good job and hopefully put a cap board on top of gate as well

[@sinbincreations]

Another great vid 👌

[@RockPolitics]

I am about to build a lot of fence. I'm in a small market, and none of the fence builders in this area have shown me impressive work. (Or even adequate work.) It's basically a sideline for handymen. I found your channel, and the one thing that has truly impressed me is that you actually give credit where it is due. That makes you almost unique in the KZbin world. It speaks volumes about you, but it has the added benefit of giving me confidence that the things you say are bad ideas are probably bad ideas and not just a KZbin creator angling for views. I have a problem I've not seen, here or anywhere else. I recently bought this property, and it has a relatively new and pretty well-installed fence. But the previous owner didn't fence in the whole property. I am stuck trying to decide whether to try and re-use some or all of the materials. I don't see any way to extract and move posts that are in concrete. But the pickets? Or even whole sections of fence? I don't want to spend more than I have to, but I also don't want to be penny wise and pound foolish.

[@paulhoskins7852]

It looks nice!

[@muffybg]

Looks nice, not a big fan of the metal posts but I reckon if I was in that situation I may well have gone for the less labour intensive option 😂

[@ScottSmithPhotos]

Very similar to my DIY fence, horizontal pickets. Except I built the panels separately with a vertical 2x4 on each end, and a footer rail as well, and then hung them with Simpson Strong tie 90° brackets.

[@ScottSmithPhotos]

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[@ScottSmithPhotos]

@@JoeEverest replacement IS a consideration, central coast of California here, termites will decimate everything within 5 years if wood isn't 6" over the ground.

[@kaydonahue]

I like the horizontal fence because if the bottom rots, you need only one board.

[@JoeEverest]

Great point!

[@ronwinne8594]

I have not considered a fence assembly like this. I may give it a try. I am going to re-build a 40 foot section. Thanks for the idea.

[@JoeEverest]

Let us know how it goes!

[@tridentwilliams2015]

With a horizontal picket maybe he should have installed a stiffener in the centre of each panel, just a piece of the same lumber screwed to the back side of the panel from top to bottom to help prevent warping in the panels. Also could have put some glue in the scarf joins and gave them a light sand after screwed off

[@amunderdog]

I think for DIY they did a good job. The fence turned out sharp looking. I like the cap also. It also helps protect the fence some. 4:21 - Throws a flag. Ripping pressure treated lumber on a table saw, indoors, no masks. Seems like a horrible idea to me.

[@frederickczajka573]

Couple of notes. He should of added top caps on to those metal posts (and painted them). Around here we call that 25 degree joint a scarf joint not a butt joint, I might of missed it, but he didn't explain clearly when making the scarf joints on both ends of the board that not only should you rotate it 180 from the first cut, that you then should flip the board over. He actually did this but don't explain.

[@ericspears5237]

I plan to do a Top cap on mine, very common in Europe and i plan to ha e lights on the inside at every other post. Very nice

[@JoeEverest]

Sounds like a good plan!

[@letgo22hrs]

Chain link fence post, line post. Large enough gauge to support a privacy wood fence in windy location? I would think no, too thin/week. Thoughts? 16 gauge, 1 7/8. 13 gauge post more appropriate for a 6 foot privacy fence, correct? 1/3 the height in concrete. Also, if I need say 36” hole, does the post have to reach the bottom or can the post be 20-24” in the hole with rest filled with concrete? Have a heck of a time sourcing post in my area 9-10ft long which I need for frost depth. Can get 7’ 8” but that only gives me 20” in the ground/ concrete. Thanks.

[@richrangerrich]

Job well done.......I would have ran the fence door slats vertically......

[@f1akman]

I'm not a fan of the easy gate system. When the boards warp, the gate gets way twisted, even with pressure treated lumber. The traditional wood gate with horizontal boards makes for a gate with much less chance of twisting IMHO. Overall, he made a pretty decent fence and gate based on what was there and what he was willing to do. I do agree about the metal posts though; if you don't know what was done, pull it and do over. There were only 3.

[@serenitynow007]

I just had a fence company out that said they won’t even build a horizontal fence because they won’t warranty it due to the warping that will inevitably occur. They advised against even attempting to to build one in Illinois.

[@m.l.b.-j.u.504]

If I need to build a 10foot tall fence like this. Which means I need at least 11feet. Where can I find galvanized steel post that long?? I'm working the bid but can't locate any that big. Please help

[@niteriderband4713]

One thing I think is wrong is he needs to install another vertical piece of wood in the middle of the 8' panels to prevent warping of the different planks. I am liking the galvanized pipe sunk in he ground and the wood post bolted to it. That prevents the post from wood rot from being buried plus gives the flexibility of having a wood post to bolt to.

[@RealPeople.]

Are they cost prohibitive because of the labor or materials? Seems like it would be the same amount of lumber used whether or not it’s vertical or horizontal, maybe I’m missing something though

[@landmarkcreations1183]

Looks awesome. Would like the gate to match the fence but I’m kind of picky lol. Great vid!

[@MrCpolzin]

I agree. Needs a top cap on the gate but everything else looks great !

[@Aepek]

Do like horizontal fences, but the HOAs around me won’t allow them, so; it’s almost always vertical, unless want to try to go thru appeals process and forms etc….which most don’t; as the time and cost to do so….usually results in a denied verdict 😉

[@Musabe009]

He spent time putting solution on the two inch strips to weather seal them but then at the end with posts and top caps that he cut there wasn’t any solution applied.

[@sahnoikylis8378]

The metal posts were probably left from an original chain link fence. I doubt those things are going anywhere, they may outlive everything else.

[@JoeEverest]

As long as they’re heavy enough!

[@MHFencingCompany]

Come up really nice but on the same page the steel posts they left definitely looks out of place, best to set new posts in for the better finish

[@EAGLEHORDER]

HAS THE PERSON WHO MADE THAT VIDEO NEVER HEARD OF CLAMPS? LOL

[@JoeEverest]

Great question 😂

[@EAGLEHORDER]

@@JoeEverest I AM BUILDING MY FIRST 6FT PRIVACY FENCE BY MYSELF, SO CLAMPS AND BUNGEE CORDS AND ANYTHING THAT WILL TEMPORARILY HOLD THE BOARDS IN PLACE ARE MY NEW SOULMATES LOL

[@marshallbradford4422]

Ohhhhh Riiight!

[@jeremys959]

Really good looking fence, but as you said, I would've done it 100% with posts in concrete and rip the metal posts out

[@billmongiello4885]

he could have saved time by clamping and plumbing the 4 x 4 posts to the metal posts and drilling through the holes in the metal post and through the 4 x 4 then set the bolts and removed the clamp...all in all a good video and i got some ideas from it

[@JoeEverest]

Great point, thanks for weighing in!

[@thenarrator1984]

Should have treated the ends of the caps and post. That's the first place that rots!

[@JoeEverest]

Great point!

[@evelynmahoney3569]

Needs a top-cap on tbe gate. Was surprised when he didn't screw the top cap on from the top. I'm sure there are a couple good reasons. I don't think i would want half inch spacing, or any space really, unless the boards need room to swell (?) Or maybe it's so the wind can get through.

[@JoeEverest]

The 1/2” gap is for hardware clearance and material expansion.

[@evelynmahoney3569]

@@JoeEverest wracking my brain re: spacing & hardware. Can't think of any hardware except hinges & latch on the gate. I was referring to the 1/2" spacing between the horizontal pickets. I understand material expansion, but not a relationship between hadware & pickets or slats. If have time, please explain. I really like ur video reviews & am learning a lot from them.

[@arlyquino]

Didn't screw on the top, so there weren't any screw holes on the top. Partly an aesthetic choice, but also keeps the screws (which should be treated deck screws as a minimum) from rusting out.

[@richc.3100]

What’s the point of a 3 ft tall privacy fence?

[@lHurtYourFeeIings]

nice

[@HomeOfMacWoeffie]

I would paint the topcap cuts, if they have a little gap rain can come in and rain means rott......

[@JoeEverest]

Great point, I appreciate you weighing in!

[@mennolente4807]

A flat top cap? 🧐 Where I live, things made of wood, are never flat to prevent rainwater to pool and make the wood rot. Unless they are really durable tropical hardwoods. In that case, they are 9 months per year wet.

[@arlyquino]

Yes, where I live (Pacific Northwest, specifically Vancouver BC Canada) we get a lot of rain. More than snow (yes, I know, an oddity for Canada 😜). So for our top caps for deck railings, and fence tops, we bevel them, usually 15 degrees, for water run off. Of course, some people want a flat top (for beers). Well, it will weather and rot quicker, no two ways about it.

[@d_lord4483]

i've been doing fencing for many years now. I agree with you Joe, the metal existing posts should've been removed and new wood posts should've been re-set. I feel as if it downgrades the esthetic of the modern looking wooden fence.

[@JoeEverest]

I appreciate you watching, thanks for weighing in!

[@oldsstarfire]

Every easy gate I installed had call backs for saging.

[@greglewis8041]

Horizontal fence.🤩

[@JoeEverest]

Love them! Thanks for watching!

[@cecilwells9786]

Nice but he didn't seal the cut ends to the top caps.

[@chuckefunn8624]

The metal poles at the base of the post look horrible cosmetically I like to put tar around my fence posts about 4 inches above the cement

[@beachrecoveryfoundation411]

I would add a top cap to the gate, just saying…

[@JoeEverest]

I appreciate the feedback!

[@staples4335]

That fence wasn't straight at all

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

I would have pulled my router and step designed it instead of cutting it bottom line God bless.

[@asavagefrom_da_9580]

👍

[@frbrable]

Not a huge fan of horizontal fences. It seems easier to see what's going on behind them (i.e., they're not great as privacy fences).

[@jaysdood]

I would never build a fence like that. Those metal posts are incredibly suspect.

[@jaysdood]

@@JoeEverest it's worse for me Joe. I live in Wellington, New Zealand which is the windiest city in the world. 100km/hr (60 mph) winds are a very common occurrence here and I am still on my motorbike even in 150km/hr (90mph) winds. So this fence literally wouldn't last 3 months. The wind loading would bend the metal posts right over.

[@mrxenosith8023]

he forgot to seal the butt joints after cutting them.

[@ryanwallace5024]

Not a fan of leaving the metal posts, I'm sure the neighbors aren't either.

[@charliegodinez9655]

Nice fence overall but needs to be taller. I don’t want to see what my neighbors are doing or want them to know what I’m doing

[@thuly3755]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️

[@JoeEverest]

🙏🙏🙏

[@NicholasRachuna]

I would never attach my work to some rinky dink pipes in the ground.

[@JoeEverest]

Agreed!

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

It will not remain level with th washer fixed done that 47 yrs ago.Bottom line

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

Fence is really short not good.Bottom line

[@martynlee5575]

Really don't wanna sound like an arse here but everything in this video is way over complicated for no real reason. In most videos I've watched of guys doing fences in the states they overthink everything. Just get the fence up and get too the next job!!

[@NeillWylie]

I also kinda feel like most folks are a bit pedantic.

[@martynlee5575]

@@JoeEverest I'm not saying its wrong buddy just seems like every aspect is over thought and or over executed. I mean hey you have different weather and climate over there but some of the simple stuff should really be just kept 'simple'

[@MrCpolzin]

@@martynlee5575 How would you simplify this build Martyn ?

[@michaelrichardson5505]

All thart work on a new fence and he uses a ez gate. From someone that builds and fixes fences and gates, EVERY EZGATE EVER USED SAGS. PERIOID. they are junk.