Problems charging the Renault Megane at home. A fix coming soon?

It seems there’s a problem with the Megane and certain home wallboxes when using a charge timer. For the three months I’ve had the Megane, I’ve had very little success using the Zappi wallbox (much better with the Ohme). Thankfully it sounds like Renault finally have a fix.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:31 - What is a charging timer?
02:29 - I’ve gone commando
04:44 - Why set a charging limit? (Some geeky stuff about batteries)
06:26 - Zappi happy?
09:05 - Ohme oh my
10:05 - Is there a fix?

[@MrEV]

I've just read on the Zappi forum that the update is now live (finally!) but it has to be done by the dealer. It takes 20-30 minutes. Let me know how you get on! myenergi.info/renault-megane-charging-issues-t7780-s560.html

[@MorzakEV]

Hi Andrew, I think that the Megan’s starts charging when you turn the cars “ignition” on at about 0.4kW because you have “preconditioning” turned on on the Zappi, which is in the settings, to allow the car to use heating and air con from the mains when plugged in, to save your battery for the commute. This setting can be turned on and off under “preconditioning” in the “charge settings” section of the Zappi menu. Great video - there are still a lot of issues with the charging standard that manufacturers need to work through!

[@ObiePaddles]

I’ve missed you videos. Great to have a new one!

[@user-id2oz1gd7z]

Very informative as usual Mr EV 👍😊

[@adyp]

Thanks for taking the time to do a video on this issue. It’s been one that has been dogging Megane owners for far too long unfortunately now. I was hoping that you would have captured more of the plug/unplug/swear/open both doors dance that seems to be necessary to get the charging to start. Great car, great charger (apparently) so I hope this July update makes them friends at last! Keep up the good work.

[@TeesTrev]

It's a pain I too try all sorts to get it to charge from the Zappi. It can sometimes take more than 10 attempts with different combinations of plugging in

[@bluedeva]

I was at a charging point on the m6 last night, as I was about to unplug a lady in a megane pulled in next to me. She asked if I had issues with charged scheduling (I have a fiat 500e). Even at the Gridserve charger her car was having issues getting it to connect. I advised her to turn off the schedule in the car and once she did it connected straight away - so seeing this post explains why she was having so many issues. I really hope Renault get these issues fixed quickly. Thank you so much for posting this, I really hope the lady somehow see this post as she was getting so frustrated 🤞🏻 I use an Easee one home charger and I always set my charging schedule on the Easee one instead of the cars. Must admit I have been having issues with the latest updates to the fiat app hopefully they will fix it when the next app update comes

[@antwnpowell]

So glad I got an MG ZS EV, my previous ICE Renault had loads of electrical problems.

[@TheRamblyChannel]

It may be me that is the friend with the Ariya mentioned in the video 😁 I can confirm that the Ariya works with timed changing. I’ve been setting both the Ariya timed charging using the Nissan Connect app and also (at the same time) setting the scheduled time in the MyEnergi app with it on Eco+ mode as you mentioned in your pinned comment. Being new to all this I didn’t know if I should just set one or both of them?! 🤪

[@Banyan314]

We’ve had the same issues with our Megane and Zappi. Fortunately, it hasn’t caused too many critical issues as our trusty Niro is always ready in an emergency. Nonetheless, our Renault agent in Exeter assured us Renault are on the case and as you said will deliver an OTA update in early July. We wait and see add just top the Megane up on sunshine using the Eco function on Zappi. Thanks for highlighting this issue. Besides this the Megane has been a brilliant family car and still put a smile on my wife’s face every time she gets behind the wheel.

[@matthewanderson895]

Informative yet again Mr EV. Ariya and Zappi seem to co-exist pretty well. I have experienced a couple of missed charges wen using the charge timer but this has not happened since a recent over the air update from Nissan. There have been some downsides though, since the update, when a charge starts on timer, the car alarm has also gone off, which is quite annoying for me (and our neighbours). This also occurs when you use the app to set the cabin temperature preconditioning functions before leaving for a trip.

[@TheRamblyChannel]

The car alarm problem was fixed but does seem to have come back. I’ve had that on my Ariya again several times recently and has resulted in me having to get in to a hot car 🤬

[@fredgoul1150]

Hi Andrew, like others have mentioned, I have only ever used the zappi scheduling system and never use the cars. It has worked for me every time. Eco plus mode and then set the schedule. Its very easy so might be worth a go...good luck!

[@MrEV]

Thanks Fred - I should have said that it doesn’t work using the Zappi to manage it either. 🙁

[@urchpub]

Excellent video - suffering from this problem on my new Megane.

[@gramps6718]

My Niro is three years old, with 21K on clock, normally I use the Kia connect app to do all my charging at night, you send the schedule to the car from the app and it’s pretty reliable, I have suffered from the dreaded 12 volt battery issue. Lots of interesting comments, it’s good to talk👋❤

[@roderickmain9697]

I see others have had similar ideas to me. I wondered if there may be some schedule already set in the Zappi which conflicted in some way with the car's schedule. However, it would appear that its an interpretation of the specification that is wrong in the car. Over the last 45 years, I've had similar issues with bits of computer kit (Mainframes back in the day) which should talk but dont because some side or other (and sometime both) didnt implement some protocol the same way. Frustrating. When both sides understand the issue (frequently timing and snychronisation bewteen commands and responses) its usually straightforward to fix. Joys of software engineering.

[@garyheavens2389]

Great informative video. Good to see you starting to do videos again :)

[@johnafotheringham4266]

I have a Niro, but don’t use its scheduling (never tried it) instead I use the boost function of the zappi. Set a scheduled boost on the zappi and connect the car in eco+ mode. Unless you have surplus solar or a battery, the eco+ won’t charge during the day, but the boost kicks in overnight. Worked fine for me, and is effectively driven by the zappi end.

[@wilkoone9155]

I'm on my 5th BEV over 14 years & our 2nd Zoe. We have never let our charger or any app near the charging scheduling process; we always let the car do it especially on public chargers. I believe Renaults have a reputation for earthing problems, happened a few times with me while using high speed AC chargers.

[@MrEV]

I’m kicking myself for not mentioning that it also doesn’t work using the Zappi to manage the schedule (on Eco+ mode).

[@paulg2923]

Glad you said that. Only a few minutes in and I was thinking why not just use the zappi to schedule.

[@ianmenai]

Isn’t the Eco+ mode charging using solar only?

[@roderickmain9697]

I did wonder

[@alanjenkinson7812]

I’ve stopped using my eNiro to set up charging, i just use my zappi app but i see you can’t work that way either. Zappi have been very helpful too with advice, there are settings you’d never know about

[@alanjenkinson7812]

I sat in a megane at Norwich Gridserve and thought the interior was quite poor & the seating position a lot lower than expected. Very pretty car though

[@2011ppower]

Not all EV's have timers, Vauxhall e corsa a case in point. However I have found the most reliable method is to use the timer on our Podpoint works for both the Corsa and my Ioniq.

[@tjhetty]

Have got the Hypervolt 3 and a Megane, use the Hypervolt schedule with no issues since i've it, also just used in-laws granny charger using the schedule on the car and again no issues.

[@knowledgebyte]

Yeah, Tesla really understands the prosumer. I swapped out my old Rolec wall charger for a Tesla wall charger. You order the charger via the app (like everything with Tesla) and a day later it arrives and in about two hours or so and a trip to Wickes for a bit of 5x1” and you have it mounted. It cost me circa £475 and a bit of skilled labour to get it up and running. You just initialise the network and tick a couple of boxes in the web portal into the unit and off you go. And I have that hooked up to OVO Anytime, which tells the car when to do demand charging anytime during the day; mostly at night between midnight and 07:30. There’s a lot of fluff out there about charging you upwards of £1500 to get one fitted, but in truth you can do it for around £500-600. My unit was just a straight swap, so I didn’t have to plum in the 32A wiring and breaker; but that should take no more than two hours with someone who knows what they are doing. You just need to find a good lecky.

[@mwheelersmith]

Tesla owner here, mine also sips power when it's plugged in and not charging. I think this is to run it's basic systems (screen etc). It draws around 6 amps if the air-con is on too. Sounds about right. But yeah, wall pod (Andersen in my case) still says charging at around 1kwh, even when the car isn't scheduled to charge for another few hours.

[@tonyjakotv]

Timed charging on my 23 Kia Niro has also died, it started with not wanting to charge on Tuesdays. The first 5 Tuesdays I had the Niro I had a problem charging, then the whole system failed and I can no longer use the timed/scheduled charging at all. I've had the Niro for 11 weeks. This week I got a call from my local dealer telling me that the believe they have a fix. They can't fit me in next week and then I'm away for the next ten days. I do hope they can fix it so I don't have to go out to the garage each night to plug in after 9pm, that's when out off peak time starts here. Cheers Tony

[@mattsteel5354]

Thank you for posting this, our Megane has been with us for 8 weeks and this charging issue with the Zappi has been driving me crazy. Interestingly my issue is less with the timer and more with the problem you had when you tried to turn it off. Even when I have the car on instant charge the Zappi and the Megane fall out and the Zappi says the car has delayed the charging and I get the flashing red lights. It sometimes takes 5 or 6 attempts of unplugging and replugging it to get them to talk. This is particularly annoying as I want to charge off our solar panels on the Zappi's Eco++ setting, but if a cloud passes over then the charging switches off until the panels are giving enough charge, but then the Megane and the Zappi fall out and that's the end of my charging. I did take it to Renault main dealer and they have confirmed the update will be ready in October and I need to bring it back.

[@peterwebb1972]

Thanks for your comment, this is exactly the issue I have had for the last few months. My dealer has not promised anything. I hope October is a realistic promise.

[@kevinlawson2668]

Sounds similar to the same problems ID3 had initially with Zappi, the workaround for that was to set the zappi into eco mode (not eco+) with a boost timer of 12.30 to 4.30, plug the car in as late as you can, it will then immediately charge really slowly until 12.30 when it goes full speed. You don't get full benefit from the off peak but as you charge during peak pretty slow it's not too bad.

[@bshah4831]

Our Cupra Born V2 loan one did not need a timer I only needed to set a timer on the Andersen A2 wall charger. But our new V3 Cupra Born needs it's timer set for the off peak tariff. So seems to vary by car and wall charger combination.

[@bill_heywood]

Timed charging didn’t work on my Zappi unless I did a short fast charge before switching to Eco+. But, there is actually a Zappi setting that avoids this by doing a brief charge before waiting for the timer session

[@theweekthatis]

I think the 'delayed charge' on the zappi is part of the charger regulations, essentially the zappi sets a random delay when you plug in.

[@chrisbell5248]

My zappi is set up with the cheap rate times, if the car is plugged in and the charger set on eco++ it will charge on the overnight rate (and solar if available) this saves you being messed up by a setting on the car when attempting to charge away from home.

[@MobilAvenue_]

I have Easee One and use it every night and have never had an issue with charging.

[@nigep]

Always great Andrew Are you paying extra for your daytime electricity such as 40p kw/h to get the 7.5p lower night rate and is it worth it?

[@akf2000]

Yes Octopus Go day rate is higher, but it does work out if you've got an EV and are putting in 25kwh regularly. Also the day rate is dropping to 31p on July 1st, but the night rate remains 9.5p

[@nigep]

Hi Again Andrew If your on Octopus the nighttime is probably 9.5p kw/h Take care Nigel

[@SirHackaL0t.]

If it only takes charge when you have the car turned on I suspect that the charger is being used to power the systems instead of the battery. It seems a great way to stop the battery going flat before the timer starts the charge.

[@plasticcreations7836]

Coincidentally I recently ordered a Megane etech and was looking at getting a Zappi charger. I ended up rejecting the Zappi because it won't fit where I need it to be installed - so possibly a lucky escape if they dont manage to fix it?

[@99adgil]

we have hyper volt 2 and had zero issues with our charge timer. we charge via solar 9:00 - 18:00 flawless

[@t4bs594]

Hi. Have you looked at the myenergi app when trying to charge? There is a built in delay of up to 10 mins when you 'fast' charge. If you plug in for an immediate charge, open the myenergi app, tap on the car icon and you will see a pop up message telling you about the delay. Like you, I got am error message in my car until I found out about this. Also, have you checked the myenergi app for the times the charge failed overnight? Does it show short peaks suggesting it tried to charge for a little while? I had all of the same issues with a Zappi and a Tesla until I cleaned the contacts on the charge cable. Not sure if that was the fix or a software update on the Zappi.

[@carlcook5755]

I use instant charge on the vehicle, then program via the charger app which works fine. I do use the Indra charger though and not the Zappi (this could work with the Zappi app though?)

[@bryanstoneman842]

Got the same setup as yourself, I also have panels so generally charge when it’s sunny on instant charge setting on the car More times than not it starts charging for a second or two then stops with the same error showing as with you. The only way of solving the problem was to plug in and unplug multiple times , normally anything up to 5, then the car will charge as requested. From early on I contacted Renault customer services, who have been very good at keeping me up to date with solutions,they told me that they were working with Zappi and a remote update will be available in July. Very similar to your experience. We will wait to see. ASIDE FROM THIS VERY PLEASED WITH THE MEGANE

[@MrEV]

Great to hear you're enjoying the car despite the charging issue. It's a wonderful EV.

[@bryanstoneman842]

With the panels and batteries fitted to our house very cheap motoring Also run a 20 plate I3 which I also love

[@peterjohnson4039]

Hi Andrew. Interesting video. I have a Zappi charger as well. It has some great features. Mind you I am not just a Zappi fan boy 😉 Not sure why you feel the need to say that you are not a Tesla fan boy. Incredible how many reviewers feel the same need. The irony is that this itself is tribal behaviour.

[@MrEV]

Because we get crucified by the rabid anti-Tesla brigade who blindly dismiss any balanced opinion as fanboyism. Incidentally, I also get plenty of comments from Tesla owners who dismiss any other EVs as rubbish. So yes, it's all horribly tribal. It's the same on Twitter with blue ticks and it used to be the same with Apple vs Android before Steve Jobs died. But yes, I agree my comment is unintentionally ironic!

[@ukcarver]

I had an Ohme charger installed about two years ago.

[@davidg6370]

My MG5LR doesn't have a car charge timer. I use the Zappi timer. My MG5LR sometimes didn't wake up, but setting the Zappi to do a pre charge would result in the MG5LR waking up and accepting the delayed charge.

[@mrmidland_traveller936]

I have a Volvo XC40 Recharge. I tend to find that if one changes the schedule function in the car when it is plugged in to the charger, be it AC or DC , the charger doesn't like it and I have to unplug the car and start from scratch again. .

[@timj11dude]

Does the Car not charge when the zappi provides power based on the zappis schedule?

[@timj11dude]

*if you set the car to charge instantly

[@AdrianNelson1507]

I was thinking the same!

[@AdrianNelson1507]

Turns out everyone else was too lol. Now I wonder if the in car schedule fails on every smart charger

[@MrEV]

I forgot to mention it in the video - no, it doesn't work on the Zappi's schedule either.

[@NickFoster]

Have you tried setting the schedule in the Zappi instead of the car? Set the Zappi to Eco+ and then schedule the boost (sets the Zappi to Fast mode) for overnight. That's how I use it with my Tesla.

[@MrEV]

Yes, I’ve tried that but that doesn’t work either.

[@agoodud]

Has the Zappi v Megane E-Tech problem been resolved. I am in Ireland and have just encountered the same issue. In fact, our Zappi essentially stopped working and we are in the process of getting it replaced. It is concerning that our at home charger may not be able to charge the EV. Love the car but it's not much use if you can't charge at home

[@halfmanhalftenor]

Hi Andrew, can I ask why you switched form Ohme to Zappi? I currently use a Zappi (on a PS2), and am curious to know whether you find the Zappi better in any way? Thanks, Ian

[@MrEV]

I much prefer the Zappi in every way. I had the Ohme already but rarely use it.

[@davemcw.2803]

I have a Podpoint home charger and a Cupra Born and can’t get a timed charge to work properly either. The Podpoint app just refuses to let me set the times I want for each day of the week and if I set it on the car, it doesn’t seem to realise it’s plugged in when the charge should start. I can’t work out if that’s the fault of the car or the charger 🤷‍♂️

[@TimRobinson-ph4di]

Having recently seen your video, when I did a test driver today, I tried to get my OpenEVSE to charge the Megane e-tech. Fail. I could get it to charge for about 4 seconds, then the red warning light on the car started flashing and the charge was stopped. Is this the same issue with the Zappi? or a different one?

[@MrEV]

Strange! That doesn't appear to be the same as the Zappi issue which I don't think even caused a warning light to show. (It's apparently been fixed with a Megane firmware update.)

[@G0ogs]

I use an Ohme charger with a MG5 and had no problems for the last 2 years. There’s no setting up in the car the Ohme app as all the information it requires to charge at cheap rate lecy. I,m with octopus on their intelligent tariff which gives me 6hrs so things just happen automatically. I also find if there is spare capacity in the grid and the ev is plugged in it will start charging outside the off peak times, hence the saying smart charger . I understand that the use of 7k smart chargers is desired as the grid can estimate the required demand and therefore stage the charging so there’s is no massive demand all at one time. I find your situation is not fit for purpose and probably would be taking the Reno back regardless of what contract you have, or just use the Ohme charger.

[@8outof10catzDOOM]

If it doesnt work for the zappi handling the schedule with the megane on instant charge, then it has to be a problem with the zappi, my megane works perfectly with my zappi using those configurations.

[@anthonydevono8833]

This sort of issue is what worries me as I approach owning my first EV you pay for a wall box then when you plug in wait for the off peak with whatever supplier you have and no charge overnight so can’t get to work .there is still a Lot of work to be done to convince people to switch over

[@peterjohnson4039]

Just get a Tesla

[@aakeister]

Have you tried using the zappi timer instead of the Car timer?

[@MrEV]

Yes - no luck unfortunately!

[@DevAnubis]

Has the Megane inherited the Zöe's temperamental (over-sensitive) earth impedance detection? Have you had any issues with other AC chargers (e.g. public ones?)

[@DevAnubis]

Ok so yeh if Renault are talking about a software update then yeh it's probably earth impedance tests failing.

[@DevAnubis]

Unless it's a bug with the charge timer... Will it start charging instantly or does it have the same issue?

[@DevAnubis]

Lastly, out of interest, why not use the Zappi/Ohmi timer controls and not the vehicle's?

[@davidpearn5925]

My Tesla M3 RWD has many fairly useless updates - it involves fixing bugs and replacing them with all new ones.

[@dhandley22]

Hi Andrew, I thought you were on the Agile tariff? Or was that a long time ago?

[@MrEV]

No, I’ve always been on Go. I was considering Agile but didn’t take the plunge!

[@dhandley22]

@@MrEV just fyi tomorrow Octopus Agile is extremely cheap. For some parts of the day it will be -1.10p/kWh…MINUS!! 😆

[@LysanderLH]

It might be an earthing sensor fault with the car. I had a Zoe that refused charge. Check your Earthing rod

[@MorzakEV]

This version of the Zappi has integrated Pen fault and so doesn’t need an earth rod, but you’re right, this is a very common problem.

[@LysanderLH]

@@MorzakEV we eventually handed the car back when the mkII Zoe came out because of the car’s inability to accept a charge. It wasn’t just at home but everywhere else too.

[@MorzakEV]

Awful isn’t it, I know this tech takes time to develop but Renaults charging issues won’t he Zoe have been prominent for almost 10 years now since it’s launch

[@LysanderLH]

@@MorzakEV all of that happened in England. Renault UK were useless even though they knew it was a design fault. We now live in France and I won’t buy a Renault EV on principle. Currently driving a Model 3 LR.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

The problem of OTA only partially updating cars is common for all legacy auto makers. For an excellent explanation why listen to the recent Fully Charged Podcast with Ford CEO Jim Farley. Essentially Tesla are vertically integrated and own most of the low level firmware the car uses, traditional auto farms that out to hundreds of suppliers none of which talk to each other. Ford will bring more in house to achieve proper OTA updates.

[@jankempynck3745]

Very strange, first I have such a Mégane since October last year and have not any issue of charging even scheduled. I am also member of one of biggest forums in France, there is no any subject about this problems. I charge at home with 22KW on a Keba EV charger, (Austrian quality).

[@Martinko_Pcik]

Must be frustrating. So much incompetence around those EV on the side or manufacturers. I am so happy for Tesla showing us all the dilettantism of legacy car makers.

[@mfurmyr]

How about investing in a dust cloth? 😊

[@MrEV]

It’s terrible, I know - I used the microfibre cloth before filming the next video!

[@UntrainingUltrarunner]

Think the small amount is running your climate control?

[@graemeglass7566]

Thanks Andrew. I too like the car, but like you have home charging issues. I have an EO Mini Pro 3 smart charger and the Megane is very hit or miss, even on instant charging. I have tried plugging the cable into the car first then the EO charger, then vice versa and still 3 out of 4 times the light goes from solid blue to flashing red within 5 seconds. Eventually it will go blue then flashing blue and away we go on instant charge. However I want to charge over night as I am on Octopus GO( Renault is not incorporated into the Intelligent Octopus tariff yet). It has charged a couple of times overnight, but the success rate is about 5%. I have tried scheduling the EO charger and putting the Megane into instant mode, then doing the opposite where the Megane is in scheduled mode and the charger is just on auto. It just doesn't want to play. So until a software or a firmware update is available I am stuck with doing an instant charge at 00.30 till the battery is charged to a desired level. Pretty annoying as I am an old fart and usually in bed by 10.30 pm. Cme on Renault get the finger out. You are pissing off a lot of people who genuinely like the car but are sick of the charging issues!!1

[@MrEV]

There's now a fix available so worth getting it booked into your local dealer. Fingers crossed it'll sort it!

[@graemeglass7566]

@@MrEV when was this announced? I haven't seen anything from Renault. Maybe they don't want to advertise things like this. 👍

[@MrEV]

​@@graemeglass7566 People were discussing it on the Myenergi forum: myenergi.info/renault-megane-charging-issues-t7780-s560.html Apparently the update is called "Actis 82668" on Renault's system?! Quite why Renault haven't notified everyone is beyond me!

[@graemeglass7566]

@@MrEV thanks for the info. I will ask my dealership if they have this update.

[@ianmenai]

As others gave said Andrew, IGNORE the car timer! Many folk have come to grief when setting the car charging schedule, as some manufacturers link AC charging to DC timers! So the EV rule is DON’T use the car’s schedule, use the charger, Zappi, Hypervolt, Pod Point or whoever and leave the car to charge whenever plugged and then you won’t have stressful time at a charger AC or DC away from hime!

[@MrEV]

Sadly it doesn’t work using the Zappi to manage the schedule either.

[@ianmenai]

@@MrEV So it looks like the car goes to a deep sleep and doesn’t wake up when the Zappi sends the signal down the CP lead! The signal is standard across the chargers available and as you have proved the Ohme does wake up the car and charge if I understand you correctly?

[@ianmenai]

By the way the perceived wisdom now, agreed by the battery manufacturers, LG, Tesla and the Chinese company I can never remember the name of, is the with AC charging, i.e using the cars BCCM to control charging, is that charging to 100% is OK, because it isn’t 100% of the batteries capacity, and it lets the BCCM cell balance when necessary, which is a GOOD thing for the longevity of the battery! Tesla now have cars that have covered 300,000 miles and have only lost 8% of capacity even when charged predominantly on DC! These are often 2013 - 14 cars and have passed the 8 year make some time ago. As for laptop batteries, NO charging control has ever been done up to now, save the latest OS from Apple that only lets the battery charge to 80% when left plugged into the mains. Others are learning from the automotive industry, mainly Tesla and LG on how to keep the HV battery in good health for a long, long time. Sadly the early Nissan Leaf wasn’t lucky hence low capacity and destroyed cells in the early ones. The new leaf is a far better car in that respect.

[@ianmenai]

By the way, The folk at Zappi in Hull, can monitor your charger, have you suggested this? I know you said that the Megane was going back shortly, so maybe too late. I am on the Hypervolt beta test group or panel, so any changes can be monitored if I let them know, by an email, when my I-Pace is plugged in. They then can see what is going on inside the Hypervolt in realtime.

[@WelshBathBoy]

Thanks to watching your videos, we are picking up our second hand Ioniq 5 today, to say I'm excited is an understatement!! Would you recommend the zappi wallbox for the ioniq 5? we plan at some point to get solar panels and I read that it is one of the few that can be integrated with that.

[@MrEV]

Congratulations! Yes, the Zappi is particularly great when paired with solar panels. It’s a great wallbox.

[@ram64man]

The aria whist it shares its platform with the Megane the charger is 100 Japanese in the Nissan not the French part . Right down to the badges

[@iHugoF]

Just get a Wallbox Pulsar Plus...🤗

[@markmilligan6616]

Car charge timers, if you want your brain to melt try a Honda e, the timing function periods are set for when you dont want to charge, go figure 🤪 it works but can catch people out, i just use my chargers timer its easier😄 that said setting both the car snd charger timers correctly at the same time it works without a glitch.

[@Sp_75-76]

Is the appi set up for fast and not eco+.

[@MrEV]

Fast if I want to use the car’s timer, but it doesn’t work with Eco+ either.

[@Sp_75-76]

@@MrEV i have my Zappi set to eco+ and a scheduled boost 00:30 -04:30. There is no schedule in the car(Tesla model 3). Which works fine for me. the car charges on solar during the day, then tops up,if required, overnight

[@MrEV]

@@Sp_75-76 Yes, and that's exactly what I do with the Leaf this time of year to top up on solar. It works a treat... just not with the Megane when I tried that.

[@Sp_75-76]

@@MrEV 😞😞 How’s the chickens?😊

[@bimlico]

Omg, the hassle and grief. You've now got 2 charge sockets. Battery degradation, don't charge to 100%, range anxiety, charger not working etc...Dear God, the frustration. I'm not going ev any time soon. I have a 520D. Lovely sweet engine with a range of over 1000kms on a full tank. 54 mpg and it takes 2 mins to fill. Good luck to all you ev trailblazers.

[@peterjohnson4039]

I have owned five diesels and driven countless others as well. My EV gives such a superior ownership experience. No problems with home charging. Takes me 30 seconds. Charge the car with excess solar power most of the year. Costs peanuts. The cabin is always the perfect temperature when it is time to leave. It reads my diary and offers to navigate to my appointment as I get in. And many other advantages. There is just no comparison.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

Renault Zoe owners have a devil of a time with scheduled timing, it's very random. Maybe it's just a Renault thing.

[@mikey7326]

There's this, and the alarm problem.

[@dlschgo]

Threaten Renault with a call from Flaviana if they don't sort it out tout de suite.

[@AndyC2_]

Nice video, but I’m struggling to see the logic in being so keen to make the most of cheap charging, when you’re scuppering £750 every month on a car you don’t even own, instead of putting that money into your own car and having an asset at the end at least 🤯 The two things make no sense ! 🤷🏻‍♂️ Onto must love you 😂

[@B0jangle5]

How on earth are you wearing a coat in this weather?!

[@MrEV]

That bit was filmed months ago!

[@iHugoF]

The slow power is the trickle charging to keep the HV battery at the set % If you would start the AC or something else that would enable the HV battery, that power would come from the charger.

[@cloggsy1971]

Are you setting the car & not the charger? 🤔 My Daughter has the Megane ETech First Edition & we have a Wallbox Pulsar Plus charger, but we don’t set the cars, we set the charger. Much easier & much less phaff. Can you not set the timer on a Zappi? 🤔

[@michalrybinski3233]

You can and that's what I normally do with e-Niro. I don't touch car's scheduler, just Zappi if needed, but even then, as I am on Octopus Intelligent, it is not really required as if I need to charge, I just plug the car in around 23:30/set Zappi to "Fast" mode (normally it sits on Eco+) and then let either Octopus start the charge or it will charge immediately and stop when charged to max value predefined in car or will stop at 5:30 as I have my tarrif set-up on myenergi account hence they know when daily tarrif kicks in. Theoretically Octopus should start/stop charging according to its schedule but in my experience it rarely works this way, probably something still not quite right with software integration between Kia and them.

[@MrEV]

I have a timer set on the Zappi but that doesn’t work with the Megane either.

[@cloggsy1971]

@@MrEV If you have a time set on both, that can cause a conflict. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@stepheng8779]

Who'd have thought electrical gremlins with a Renault 😉😂

[@lucasroper46]

Don’t understand why Renault can’t get charging on the EV’s right! We had a 22kWh Zoe and charging it was an absolute nightmare. Sometimes it would fail at home but public charging on longer journeys was so unreliable it’s put us off Renault for life! It’s a shame because it was a otherwise a great car.

[@AndyC2_]

Being put off Renault for life is not a bad thing !

[@t5jerry]

Come on Andy, you know you're gonna do a vid, make the effort and clean the screen your gonna film with a bloody duster, how many seconds would that take 👍

[@TheDripSpotter]

Why these cheapskates don’t buy Tesla’s I don’t know- but to buy French and expect reliability😀

[@ianyorke2617]

People wonder why there is resistance to EV adoption. £40,000+ car and incompatibility with chargers.

[@Lewis_Standing]

This is such basics, very disappointing from Renault

[@jameschapman4824]

It's a Renault. Enough said. LOL

[@roberts.wilson1848]

who would buy a megane?! Literal garbage vehicle, small, inefficient and well, bad for the money. Get a tesla 3, which offers you a lot more for the same money, and none of that charging garbage issues.

[@harrybartlett4020]

Why did Renault not sort this before selling, another reason to buy a Tesla.

[@bikeman123]

EVs seem to be a constant source of expensive disappointment. It appears that Tesla are the only company that gets it right.

[@MrEV]

All car brands have issues whether they’re electric or not. Land Rovers being a case in point - they’re regularly classed as the least reliable car. Tesla also have issues but they have the advantage that they can update them quickly over the air.

[@peterjohnson4039]

You will laugh at this. I have a Land Rover and a Tesla.

[@centaurus5676]

Lol! Serves yourself right for buying an electric French car!

[@Podster133]

I can see two problems. 1 .. EV..... 2... Renault. 😂😂😂😂💙💙💙

[@Roy-qn2ie]

No Flaviana review on the Megane now its going back or are you behind? Tbh there is no point in watching this channel if Flaviana isnt part of it, just saying and im sure she agrees :D

[@MrEV]

It's filmed - I'm in the process of editing!

[@need4speed998]

Or you can just buy a Tesla😀

[@MrEV]

An expensive solution!

[@faraway5828]

The early Model 3's had the same problem - once the car was asleep it failed to detect that it was plugged in, and wouldn't wake to charge (this was the same whether it was a car or charger based schedule). It was fixed via an OTA software upgrade. Same issue applied when charging from solar (I'm Solaredge rather than Zappi. but the problem was the car, not the EVSE). The Megane will charge reliably if you set an alarm for 00:25, and unlock and re-lock the car (to wake it up) ...sub optimal.

[@need4speed998]

Hey, you are doing a very good job, please keep it up. A lot of us learn a lot from you. 😀👍

[@graemeglass7566]

Car has been for software upgrade. All good. Car charges instant or delayed or custom

[@MrEV]

Great to hear!

[@mev202]

My energi pushed out an update that has caused lots of issues for many users of the my energi system, their forums are full of unhappy customers. I had to spend over an hour on the phone going through a fix with them to get mine working.