Problems with French Numbers - Numberphile

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11 жыл бұрын

French numbers can pose problems for non-native speaker - especially when you move beyond 70. Also discussing problems with phone numbers and commas!
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Featuring Dr Paul Smith from the University of Nottingham.
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@insertstupidserialnumberhe2727
@insertstupidserialnumberhe2727 5 жыл бұрын
"80" French person: lol blaze it
@yasyasmarangoz3577
@yasyasmarangoz3577 5 жыл бұрын
xD had to think a bit, but understood.
@SeanSpencersRedHotChilliSemen
@SeanSpencersRedHotChilliSemen 5 жыл бұрын
I just 5 to my knees
@pojitapejito
@pojitapejito 5 жыл бұрын
90 HAHAHA
@DANNY40379
@DANNY40379 4 жыл бұрын
99 quatre-vingt-dix-neuf 4 20 10 9.. easy peasy lol
@juba868
@juba868 4 жыл бұрын
I'm French and you just blew my mind
@kadjit10
@kadjit10 5 жыл бұрын
In french we have Septante, Huitante and Nonante (for 70, 80 and 90). But the french don't use it. We use it in coutry like Switzerland and Belgium
@neitsab8172
@neitsab8172 5 жыл бұрын
kadjit10 so you are not french if you say it like this
@kadjit10
@kadjit10 5 жыл бұрын
​@@neitsab8172 I speak french but I'm not french. Just like in usa, canada, australia etc... they speak english but are not english ^^
@neitsab8172
@neitsab8172 5 жыл бұрын
@@kadjit10 yeah you speak french but your arent french
@neitsab8172
@neitsab8172 5 жыл бұрын
OH NO NO yeah that’s pretty impressive
@oliveranderson7264
@oliveranderson7264 5 жыл бұрын
We don’t use huitante in Belgium just septante and nonante
@egillandersson1780
@egillandersson1780 5 жыл бұрын
The origin is the celtic system, which was "vigesimal" (base 20), even for 40 and 60. In Belgium, clubs of "old" people are sometimes called "les trois fois vingt" (the three times twenty). - Belgium and Switzerland adopted "septante" and "nonante" for 70 and 90, but Belgian people continue to use "quatre-vingt" for 80, as French people. - In French speaking Switzerland, some regions use "huitante" for 80, and some others "quatre-vingt". The old term "octante" is abandoned. - American French speakers in Quebec use the French system, but the Acadia uses the Belgian one. And, even in France, "septante" & "nonante" are used by specific professionals : the financial traders, to avoid the confusions. About the decimal separator, the majority of Europe uses the coma. Another confusion you don't speak is the BILLION : for English speaker, it's 10^9, but for French people, it's 10^12 (10^9 is a "milliard").
@veovis523
@veovis523 5 жыл бұрын
Spanish also uses the long scale. 10^9 is "mil millón" (one thousand million), which has the interesting consequence of Spanish not having a proper term for "billionaire".
@toade1583
@toade1583 4 жыл бұрын
Quebec is in Canada, not America
@veovis523
@veovis523 4 жыл бұрын
Canada is in America. Specifically North America.
@nadamasdisponible
@nadamasdisponible 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting about the celtic origin
@camembertdalembert6323
@camembertdalembert6323 4 жыл бұрын
@@toade1583 America is a continent, not a country.
@batuhan_a_kocak
@batuhan_a_kocak 4 жыл бұрын
In Circassian (a North-West Caucasian language), it goes similar to English until 30. Then it gets crazy. 30 = 20 +10 40 = 20x2 50 = 100/2 60 = 20x3 70 = 20x3 + 10 80 = 20x4 90 = 20x4 + 10
@azzary8523
@azzary8523 4 жыл бұрын
How do you pronunce it ?! You say : Twenty-ten ?or for 50 ? Ohlala i'm french and it's such a mess x)
@merry6671
@merry6671 4 жыл бұрын
If you think of it as being base 20, with "Hundred" meaning in the twenties then this is actually very intuitive. 90 is "Four hundred and ten". This is exactly the same was it's done in English.
@batuhan_a_kocak
@batuhan_a_kocak 4 жыл бұрын
@@azzary8523 Pronunciation is a completely different mess because Circassian has approximately 60 phonemes. I can write it but I don't think anyone who is not familiar with the lamguage would be able to comprehend anything
@Heimrik01
@Heimrik01 4 жыл бұрын
@@batuhan_a_kocak What language is circassian, daghestani ? Ossetian ? Georgian ? Tchechenian ?
@batuhan_a_kocak
@batuhan_a_kocak 4 жыл бұрын
@@Heimrik01 It's Circassian. Sometimes called Adyghe (West Circassian) or Kabardian (East Circassian) but two varieties are mostly mutually intelligible. That's why I used the umbrella name Circassian.
@vlogdemon
@vlogdemon 7 жыл бұрын
It's not that the French didn't invent these words, it's that they removed them. These words existed in the father language of Latin, and exists in all their related languages such as Spanish.
@kadjit10
@kadjit10 5 жыл бұрын
And we still a words in french for 70, 80 and 90 in switzerland an Belgium (Maybe more?)
@fghsgh
@fghsgh 5 жыл бұрын
@@kadjit10 in Belgium only 70 and 90, not 80
@kadjit10
@kadjit10 5 жыл бұрын
@@fghsgh I know
@tyrnis
@tyrnis 5 жыл бұрын
​@@Percy84 It's very likely to be a legend, if you look at Breton language for exemple (a Celtic langage which was used in the western part of France): 40 is 2x20, 60 is 3x20, 80 is 4x20, etc. This way of counting is likely to have been also used in the "old" french in some parts of France.
@xyzoub
@xyzoub 5 жыл бұрын
The vigesimal system (with base 20) makes sense if you think of agricultural societies that would rarely necessitate to compute large numbers. We may have ten fingers or ten toes, the basis for the decimal system (with base ten), but the addition of all fingers + toes = 20, thus making the vigesimal system the basic computing base for many primitive and antique cultures (the Maya and the Inca in South America for example). With a vigesimal system you can count all the way up to 400 (20 x 20). French people all the way up to the Middle Ages used the vigesimal system in everyday usage. If you found yourself in a market in Paris in 1350 and wished to buy 60 apples you would say : 3 20 (three twenty or trois vingt) apples. A heritage we have of this is the Hospital des quinze vingt (fifteen twenty or 300), because it held 300 beds. It's only in the Modern age that French scholars decided to create and impose some kind of hybrid counting system, (a mix of vigesimal and decimal), for what reason I am not so sure.
@EddieGooch
@EddieGooch 8 жыл бұрын
I mastered this after staying a year in Nice. And then I went to Belgium..
@bobiboulon
@bobiboulon 8 жыл бұрын
+Eddie Gooch I feel you XD
@maximeschmitt2094
@maximeschmitt2094 8 жыл бұрын
+Eddie Gooch The Belgian/Swiss words for 70 and 90 should be used in France.
@UmVtCg
@UmVtCg 8 жыл бұрын
+Maxime Schmitt Belgian is no language dude, the speak flemmish and french
@maximeschmitt2094
@maximeschmitt2094 8 жыл бұрын
Rem ko Did I say that Belgian was a language? I just meant that the French-speakers in Belgium and Switzerland say septante (70) instead of soixante-dix, and nonante (90) instead of quatre-vingt-dix.
@0Basterd0
@0Basterd0 8 жыл бұрын
+Eddie Gooch Pour une fois, les belges relèvent le niveau :)
@chinois11
@chinois11 5 жыл бұрын
I understand that the phone number can cause problem fro someone who doesn't speak french very well, but for us we never have any problem with it. The thing is that we tell each number very quickly. When we pronouce "soixante et onze" we have finish telling the number waaaay before you have writed a 6. As you said, we don't even realise that we're counting like this. Of course we all know that "quatre vingt" means "4*20", but we don't hear it, we hear 80.
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco 3 жыл бұрын
Just like how when using a word of Greco-Latin derivation, you just treat the word as its own thing instead of as a compound.
@derdenni6780
@derdenni6780 2 жыл бұрын
It is the worst number system I ever heard of
@youtubestyle293
@youtubestyle293 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was the whole point of the video, thus there was no need for your comment 😂 But thank you
@TamaraWiens
@TamaraWiens 2 жыл бұрын
@@derdenni6780 you missed the comments elsewhere then about a language (Danish? I don't remember for sure) that uses "half 3 times 20" for 50, "half 4 times 20" for 70 and "half 5 times 20" for 90. It's hard to get because "half three" in this context actually means "takeaway half from 3" ie 2.5. In my mind, that is far more complicated than French.
@Idorise
@Idorise 2 жыл бұрын
That's revelant on how "langages makes us think"... Or how, at the same time every langage (even Mathematical) blind us about REALITY.
@daanytv1968
@daanytv1968 5 жыл бұрын
The swiss use the wrong or the right numbers i dont know each one had is opinion, but french-swiss are the most logic. 60 = Soixante 70 = Septante 80 = Huitante 90 = Nonante :)
@natashacassidy5500
@natashacassidy5500 5 жыл бұрын
I feel smarter now. And I have a new appreciation for the Swiss.
@jayleaf8333
@jayleaf8333 4 жыл бұрын
but some swiss-french say quatre vingt
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 4 жыл бұрын
Belgique aussi
@pistolatime2515
@pistolatime2515 4 жыл бұрын
wait shouldn't 80 be octante? soixante septante etc. comes from the old french and in old french 80 is octante
@magitrop5336
@magitrop5336 4 жыл бұрын
​@@pistolatime2515, because 8 is huit
@Sayu277
@Sayu277 5 жыл бұрын
I think the komma/decimal point Thing is more of a continental europe thing than just a french thing it is the same for german.
@ElynevanOpzeeland
@ElynevanOpzeeland 5 жыл бұрын
yup, the dutch have a comma for decimals, and points for big numbers too! i was really confused when learning those english numbers the first time, nowadays i just stick with: "complete opposite of how my language does it" and i can work it out fairly fast! It even became normal for me now!
@analisamelculo85
@analisamelculo85 5 жыл бұрын
In Spanish is the same way too. But in most Latin-american countries they do it like in English. So it's actually more confusing for us because we sometimes read numbers like the European system, with commas for decimals, and sometimes like in this American system, with points
@MarcLombart
@MarcLombart 5 жыл бұрын
The comma thing is also the standard for SI units. For example, I have 2 000,90L of coke in my fridge. 😜
@ElynevanOpzeeland
@ElynevanOpzeeland 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarcLombart true ^ almost forgot it, thx for reminding ;-) PS. that's a lot of coke tho.....
@sebastien_1237
@sebastien_1237 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarcLombart that's a big fridge !
@RLutin
@RLutin 7 жыл бұрын
this french way of counting is particular but when you learn it, you stop thinking at logic. great french accent btw
@jasonhatt4295
@jasonhatt4295 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, but how did you know I had one?
@MrZeDeathcaller
@MrZeDeathcaller 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhatt4295 I'm French, and I can tell you : He got no English accent while he talks in French. Or maybe if you're looking(searching?) for it, you can hear it.
@jasonhatt4295
@jasonhatt4295 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrZeDeathcaller lol, no I was making a Joke saying I had a French accent but I don't
@m_bd3387
@m_bd3387 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrZeDeathcaller Mais si il a un accent, quand il dit soixante par exemple
@peterferry1646
@peterferry1646 5 жыл бұрын
Il a un léger accent anglais toute de même et puis il se trompe sur le sport…
@red-clad-vlad
@red-clad-vlad 2 жыл бұрын
Here in eastern Europe we use "," instead of a decimal point. It might really be different from place to place. In Bulgaria, we always use spaces to separate parts of big numbers (100 000 000), so it's easy to interpret the decimals regardless of whether a full stop or comma is used for it (3.14 would be read the same as 3,14 even though we are taught to use the later).
@Leblribrbrrq
@Leblribrbrrq Жыл бұрын
It's also Western Europe and a lot of the world. The comma is far more widespread as a decimal point than just French. And so is the thousands separator is obviously just the other way around. This is also very common. Though, a thin space is preferable,in my opinion.
@Johnny-zi6lw
@Johnny-zi6lw Жыл бұрын
Well everyone can laugh as much as they want but this video single-handedly taught me French numbers and inspired me to learn French.
@avi8461
@avi8461 9 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland, we say septante (70), huitante (80) and nonante (90). Much easier!
@byRapt0r
@byRapt0r 9 жыл бұрын
Lala Lulu But much awful to hear. :) soixante-dix (70), quatre-vingt (80), quatre-vingt-dix (90) > ALL
@NininininimoCP
@NininininimoCP 9 жыл бұрын
Lala Lulu Kinda similar in portuguese: Setenta (70) Oitenta (80) Noventa(90) Let's decompose setenta Sete-ten-ta Sete, seven in portuguese, ten, (duh) ta, alsoways placed in the end of 30, 40, 50 and so on Oi-ten-ta Oi, comes from oito, eight , ten, (duh) ta, alsoways placed in the end of 30, 40, 50 and so on Nov-en-ta Nov, comes from nove, nine, , ten, (duh) ta, alsoways placed in the end of 30, 40, 50 and so on
@omgkikoo
@omgkikoo 8 жыл бұрын
LordDayne ça te semble awful uniquement parce que t'es habitué à entendre soixante-dix et compagnie hein... huitante, etc.. c'est beaucoup plus logique.
@avi8461
@avi8461 8 жыл бұрын
Oui c'est une question d'habitude! ^^
8 жыл бұрын
Lala Lulu it also was this way in old french. They changed it for whatever reason.
@EmanueleShows
@EmanueleShows 5 жыл бұрын
Most of europe uses a comma for decimals
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 5 жыл бұрын
ShowS it’s mostly an anglophone thing, I think, not uniquely English. We use periods for decimals in Canada, and use commas or spaces for separators. 1,234.5 or 1 234.5 instead of 1.234,5 If you’re aware of where the numbers are coming from it’s fairly easy to get used to reading it.
@gaelquelennec4509
@gaelquelennec4509 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuahadams we use more 1 234,5 than 1.234,5 also the . can be use as a x :2.2=4 I am in French Canada
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaelquelennec4509 Do you remember what the Stanley Cup looks like, or have you forgotten? Maybe we'll let you look at it one of these days to refresh you're memory.
@uwu_senpai
@uwu_senpai 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaelquelennec4509 Le point est pour le produit scalaire. Tu l'utilises normalement pour des variables exprimées avec des lettres (qui sont donc assimilable à des vecteurs ayant un produit scalaire dans leur espace vectoriel donné).
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the surface and how small your pen is. Points might be hard to make/ spot so people write commas instead. It doesn't really matter.
@thomassutton3608
@thomassutton3608 5 жыл бұрын
The reason for this is that in Europe people used to count using all 20 fingers and toes, which gave birth to a base 20 system, which was replaced in favor of the base 10 system which we know, but traces still remain in the French way of counting.
@wayfarer1101
@wayfarer1101 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying the English wore shoes long before the French? Thiis could be a cultural studies subject: "The French Barefoot Numbers System." How do they say, "This little piggy went to market..."?
@SeigneurSidious
@SeigneurSidious 4 жыл бұрын
French kids learn every number from 0 to 100 as a new word. We don't try to find logic in numbers names.
@ladym324
@ladym324 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, as a French person who learned numbers like this I didn't realize that "quatre-vingts" was for 4×20.
@thaik56
@thaik56 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. No questions asked. Although I know now I would have if I had to learn the language for the first time. 🤣
@fofotre8361
@fofotre8361 4 жыл бұрын
@@thaik56 It's because in the Gaul, people were counting in base 20, forty was actually an equivalent for "2 times twenty" that remains in the french word for seventy, eighty (4 times twenty) and ninety (4 times twenty and ten). Swiss and Belgian didn't have this counting system, so they just put a word on seventy, eighty and ninety as English people does. I'm a French people too, and that's an amazing part of language history I think :)
@davidr2421
@davidr2421 3 жыл бұрын
Would a French person have trouble if asked to count upward indefinitely?
@SeigneurSidious
@SeigneurSidious 3 жыл бұрын
​@@davidr2421 No, because the weird part is only for the tens. After that, it's : 100: cent 200: deux cent 300: trois cent as it is in english. We just don't put the word "and" before the tens. 680 is "six cent quatre-vingt".
@Fino260
@Fino260 10 жыл бұрын
And then, Swiss arrived... Here, seventy is septante, eighty is huitante and nighty is nonante. And we write 10,695 => 10'695 :p
@markb3146
@markb3146 7 жыл бұрын
Yes !!! Originally I learnt French, but in adulthood met Swiss-French friends, my counting changed overnight. I refuse the French counting but can hear it and know the number being said. weird.......
@poopcock4357
@poopcock4357 7 жыл бұрын
c'est pas plutôt la Belgique qui a commencé?
@Wiki-P-A
@Wiki-P-A 7 жыл бұрын
huitante ou octante ? :-p
@LegendofGangstaz
@LegendofGangstaz 7 жыл бұрын
Heureusement on utilize pas huitante en Belguique, ça sonne zarrebi...
@honk4bees
@honk4bees 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, really? That way of writing writing looks so much better
@WeekzGod
@WeekzGod 8 жыл бұрын
Swiss french use septante, huitante, nonante...because logic.
@yobaloncesto
@yobaloncesto 8 жыл бұрын
In Geneva you stil say quatre-vingts instead instead of huitante. By the way, I remember that the first time I went to the Alpes for skiing, when I was a child, they told me to pick up the pair of skis that had the size 90. As they were French they had said quatre-vingts-dix... so I spent 5 minutes looking for the number 80 next to a 10. :(
@WeekzGod
@WeekzGod 8 жыл бұрын
yobaloncesto Depends on who you speak to I guess. I've heard it both ways but mainly the swiss way no the french way.
@EvrendenNotlar
@EvrendenNotlar 8 жыл бұрын
Belgium is also the same in FR but only there is no huitante
@MlleMaruska
@MlleMaruska 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, i'm french and my cousin are swiss, a monopoly party became crazy because of this différence with numbers ahahah.
@nemesis6423
@nemesis6423 7 жыл бұрын
Parle e français alors
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz 5 жыл бұрын
"This isn't a real number by the way?" "No, I just made that one up." That doesn't mean it's a not a real number though does it?
@raney150
@raney150 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it uses a specific code that is blocked? In the US, and number with an area code of 555 is blocked. So, for instance 312-555-7687 619-555-9274 723-555-1818 Are all blocked. I made up 2 of the area codes btw. I don't know if 619 or 723 numbers exist. 312 belongs to downtown Chicago, but only downtown.
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz 5 жыл бұрын
@@raney150 Well I'm from Nottingham and it looks like a valid number to me. But that wasnt my point. Even if he used a blocked code, that would be the reason it wasn't valid, not the fact he made it up.
@MusikschuleClavina
@MusikschuleClavina 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Lee it is an transcendental Nummber.
@nathanielfink8866
@nathanielfink8866 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's an imaginary number, like quatre-vingt-i.
@MusikschuleClavina
@MusikschuleClavina 5 жыл бұрын
mybe it is an irational number like Phi ;-)
@DurandJeeP
@DurandJeeP 4 жыл бұрын
2:48 The reason why 71 is the only one that has "et" (soixante et onze) is because "onze" starts with a vowel so we need to add that liason. The same is true for others numbers such as 51 (cinquante et un) and 52 (cinquante-deux)
@foxtrooper34
@foxtrooper34 7 жыл бұрын
As a french person, i laughed a lot. x) The way numbers are built always astonished me..
@MarcDonis
@MarcDonis 9 жыл бұрын
the way to say "99" in French is "4 times 20 plus 10 plus 9" this explains why there are so many great French mathematicians
@mcgoldenblade4765
@mcgoldenblade4765 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, you think counting in French is difficult? Danish takes everything you think you know about counting and throws that all out the window.
@alanbouet-willaumez1390
@alanbouet-willaumez1390 5 жыл бұрын
McGoldenblade I learned quite a bit of Russian and counting and movements verbs was totally nightmarish. For movement verbs, you have different verb / verbal forms if you move often or not, if you put the emphasis on the destination or the movement itself, if it is a one way trip or not and even if you use a véhicule or some sort of transportation, or if you walk. After this, French numbers are easy as 1-2-3.
@alikhantulessin9180
@alikhantulessin9180 5 жыл бұрын
@@alanbouet-willaumez1390 yo could you give some examples? I speak russian but cant seem to think up any instances of this (maybe i dont notice)
@alanbouet-willaumez1390
@alanbouet-willaumez1390 5 жыл бұрын
Alikhan Tulessin if you are fluent in Russian maybe you do not notice :) there are many ways to say "to go" in Russian ! Very interesting and quite subtle but really tough for many people ^^
@alikhantulessin9180
@alikhantulessin9180 5 жыл бұрын
@@alanbouet-willaumez1390 oh ok i understand now haha
@TSSC
@TSSC 5 жыл бұрын
McGoldenblade: Spot on. 20 as base from 50 and reversed order (as in German): 91 is one and five minus a half score (1 + 4.5 x 20).
@grahoulord
@grahoulord 5 жыл бұрын
En France, on a toujours été des génies pour faire chier nos voisins de Grande Bretagne
@heritagekebek9979
@heritagekebek9979 5 жыл бұрын
Ici aussi Mère Partie...
@bulmaae
@bulmaae 5 жыл бұрын
C'est pour que personne ne nous comprennent XD
@necrodefecator
@necrodefecator 5 жыл бұрын
@@ahbono Bon gros patriotisme bien gras et égocentrisme à la francaise (les anglais se fichent pas mal du francais qui est completement tombé en désuétude) rime souvent avec grammaire défaillante, rien de nouveau sous le Soleil.
@elrisitos9821
@elrisitos9821 5 жыл бұрын
Aux chiottes les rosbeefs !
@ahbono
@ahbono 5 жыл бұрын
@@necrodefecator à quel moment j'ai été patriotique?
@ChenSaboriNyan
@ChenSaboriNyan 8 жыл бұрын
the French were smoking some dank baguets when inventing this 4 20s number system
@JCisKing1337
@JCisKing1337 8 жыл бұрын
+Sabori sauce (Juan) I think im in love with you
@raykent3211
@raykent3211 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not keen on national stereotypes, but I've found reponses to a question like "can I say it this way in french?" really amusing. (all usually accompanied by a shrug, of couse....) chais pas - I dunno chuis pas prof, moi - I'm not a teacher pourquoi pas - wotever... Love it!
@McJe4nS
@McJe4nS 8 жыл бұрын
I believe it comes from the middle ages where they were using base 20
@pw274uk7
@pw274uk7 8 жыл бұрын
Do you mean baguettes? How can bread be 'dank'? And how can you smoke a loaf of bread?
@pw274uk7
@pw274uk7 8 жыл бұрын
You're getting closer to the truth than Mr. Numberphile in the video - what the French have is a mixture of counting in tens (from the Romans) and in twenties (from the Celts) - yes, it's pretty odd that it has survived this way, and other languages evolved from Latin with just the tens (e.g. Spanish and Italian). Mr. Numberphile is wrong to say that the words for French numbers over 70 numbers are 'invented' - they evolved; no French committee ever sat down and said 'I know, let's invent some new number-words just to confuse the foreigners'...
@jonahfalcon1970
@jonahfalcon1970 7 жыл бұрын
Sort of like when English speaks say "w". They don't think "double U, oh, two u's." They just hear "double-U" and see "W".
@marvash8131
@marvash8131 6 жыл бұрын
Jonah Falcon In French we say « double-v » to say « w ».
@snapshot9954
@snapshot9954 6 жыл бұрын
As a french native speaker, I confirm I never hear "soixante-dix" as two words but like one word, like "seventy"
@Tuschedz
@Tuschedz 5 жыл бұрын
Treize Virgule Cinq!
@SavageGreywolf
@SavageGreywolf 5 жыл бұрын
it helps that no one will ever spell, for example, 'door' by saying 'dee double o arr'.
@Prasen1729
@Prasen1729 5 жыл бұрын
Same goes for French but they see it: double v and not u like the English people. :-D
@alanbouet-willaumez1390
@alanbouet-willaumez1390 5 жыл бұрын
07:27 try to watch the olympics in French : most often than not, we say "dix soixante-neuf", the comma/Point might not even be spoken.
@lucca7716
@lucca7716 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Bouët-Willaumez or here in Québec, we can say « dix point soixante-neuf »
@geoffroi-le-Hook
@geoffroi-le-Hook 3 жыл бұрын
j'ai entendu huitante pour les centièmes de seconde ou de mètre en regardant les J.-O. au Québec
@WahranRai
@WahranRai 5 жыл бұрын
2:30 In swiss french, we say cinquante (50),soixante (60) ,septante (70) , huitante (80), nonante(90)... swiss french : specific tens...
@normanpearson8753
@normanpearson8753 5 жыл бұрын
In Belgium , too .
@milo-chan9687
@milo-chan9687 4 жыл бұрын
Et tu dis quoi pour dix-sept, dix-huit et dix-neuf ? J'ai rien contre mais si vous utilisez des mots spécifiques faite le pour tous les nombres
@cfr06
@cfr06 10 жыл бұрын
The belgians (who speak French) have invented a word to say 70, it is "septente"
@luka9843
@luka9843 7 жыл бұрын
I'm from Georgia, and we have "not come up with words" for 30,50,70,and 90. for 10, 20, 40,60,80 we have words, for example 20 is "otsi" while 30 is "ots-da-ati" which literally means 20 and 10, and 31 would be 20 and 11 and so on. 80 is 4, 20's as well and 91 will be four twenties and eleven.
@boletarianbread7349
@boletarianbread7349 5 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought you meant the US state and I was really confused lol
@LuisMartinez-xp6dv
@LuisMartinez-xp6dv 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from America and I thought you were talking about a state
@rideswithscissors
@rideswithscissors 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinkin', wait a doggone minute, I never heard a that!
@abolghasemamiri3342
@abolghasemamiri3342 5 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting
@mojojim6458
@mojojim6458 5 жыл бұрын
AG So it's true. People in the South aren't as smart. What a terrible shame.
@lxxxvi8898
@lxxxvi8898 5 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland they write 10'000 instead of 10,000 (or 10.000 in Germany)
@Extys
@Extys 5 жыл бұрын
We must use the international notation at my school (EPFL).
@duanesarjec6887
@duanesarjec6887 5 жыл бұрын
yes in bleguim too and the frenchies forgive you .
@albertopalomanes5660
@albertopalomanes5660 4 жыл бұрын
In Portuguese speaking countries (I think in Spanish speaking countries too, but I'm not sure) we use dots instead of commas in that case (for example: 10.000 instead of 10,000) and in the case of decimals, we switch them up as well (for example: 0,08206 instead of 0.08206)
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 2 жыл бұрын
Though the official rule for my native language (Bahasa Indonesia) specifies the use of the period to mark the thousands, I personally use the tick/apostrophe.
@MrGalaktick51
@MrGalaktick51 5 жыл бұрын
Au moins on roule du bon côté de la route nous :)
@persis63
@persis63 4 жыл бұрын
Penser qu'il y ait un "bon" côté et un "mauvais" côté quand il s'agit d'une route relève de la pensée enfantine. Ce n'est jamais qu'une convention.
@samuctrebla3221
@samuctrebla3221 4 жыл бұрын
@@persis63 l'humour aussi est conventionnel, merci nous de le rappeler.
@pinarozge6895
@pinarozge6895 4 жыл бұрын
Well yes but your syntax is a bit crazy because you keep putting the subject at the end as above! There is so much dislocation and it is not clear why you do it.
@rainydeestar4806
@rainydeestar4806 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuctrebla3221 Okay, c'était epic.
@Cubionix
@Cubionix 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinarozge6895 sorry but you're wrong, the subject in the sentence was "on" Which simply means "nous" (us) The "nous" at the end of the sentence is only there to support the global meaning of the sentence.
@Ohxoz
@Ohxoz 10 жыл бұрын
En France, la forme l'emporte sur le fond (esprit > pragmatique). Soixante-dix sonne mieux que Septante, Quatre-vingt sonne mieux que Octante,etc... La langue anglaise est logique, la langue française favorise le goût, l'apparence. En ce qui concerne la virgule au lieu du point, cela est du au fait que dans la langue française, la virgule a une valeur symbolique inférieure au point. Elle est donc utilisée comme un appendice subséquent. Par contre le point, par sa symbolique majeure est utilisée pour signifier l'importance du nombre. Ne parlons pas du passé composé selon l'auxiliaire être avoir...:-) Beau travail en tout cas!
@Ad-ho7hc
@Ad-ho7hc 7 жыл бұрын
Ah ? Moi je pense que c'est l'usage qui a fait que le nombre "quatre vingts" sonne mieux que "octante", pareil pour les autres nombres.
@theopat3536
@theopat3536 7 жыл бұрын
Ce n'est pas que ces nombres sonnent mieux, c'est un héritage des peuples celtes qui avaient un système numérique vicésimal et non décimal. :)
@TemplorKnight
@TemplorKnight 7 жыл бұрын
ca fait logtemps que j'ai pas vu de nombres depuis l'entrée en prepa mdr
@Artahe
@Artahe 8 жыл бұрын
We say soixante ET onze because of the grammatical rule that states that you can't link two words together if the first word ends with a vowel and the second starts with one. So, Soixante onze is not possible. Another example would be the translation of a sentence, let's say "what will we say about him after he's gone?". Litterally it would be " Que dira on de lui quand il sera parti?", but in reality, we write "que dira-t-on de lui quand il sera parti?". That -t- has actually no meaning at all, it's just there so the sentence doesn't sound awful to the ear. As to why put the word ET and not, for example, -T- ? Well, it's simply because soixante ET onze sounds not only easier to pronounce, but also better.
@redbeam_
@redbeam_ 6 жыл бұрын
"you can't link two words together if the first word ends with a vowel and the second starts with one" soixantE Et isnt this against the rule?
@mr.gentlezombie8709
@mr.gentlezombie8709 6 жыл бұрын
Not an expert on French, but my thought is that linking is different than being next to each other. Linking is what happens when they combine to form a number.
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 6 жыл бұрын
pretty sure that's not the reason b/c you don't say the 't' on "et".
@pizzapm
@pizzapm 6 жыл бұрын
the French language has a ton of exceptions, in this case, saying soixante et onze sounds like 3 distinct sounds, soixante onze would either have to have a pause between the two when saying or would sound like all one word soixantonze.
@dranxelaa6770
@dranxelaa6770 6 жыл бұрын
There is a famous sentence in french that says: "the exception that confirms the rule"... I won't add anything
@Knyex
@Knyex 4 жыл бұрын
"The French have not invented a word for 70" Well actually we do have one, but it fell out of use centuries ago. It's "septante"
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 4 жыл бұрын
just start using it again?
@pokeretro7456
@pokeretro7456 4 жыл бұрын
No, French never started to use it, only Swiss and Belgian.
@screw7841
@screw7841 4 жыл бұрын
@@pokeretro7456 Actually they did. These terms came from some Eastern regions of France, like Haute-Savoie.
@pokeretro7456
@pokeretro7456 4 жыл бұрын
@@screw7841 No, very few people in Haute-Savoie use "septante". They almost always use "soixante-dix".
@screw7841
@screw7841 4 жыл бұрын
@@pokeretro7456 Currently the indeed don't, but decades ago they did. We often forget that even if Switzerland and France are two different countries, some regions of both are still attached together. If you go in canton Jura, you will hear that the local accent share a lot of similarities with the french Jura accent.
@trebvvv
@trebvvv 4 жыл бұрын
Me at 11pm: oh man time to go to bed Me at 4am: SOIXANTE-DEUX
@Ziraffo
@Ziraffo 10 жыл бұрын
Being a native french speaker, I'm quite amazed that I never realized this could be so complicated looking at it from the outside. I've never seen the point used to separate thousands though (from Quebec)
@starPacific
@starPacific 10 жыл бұрын
When I used to take french in school I remember a teacher telling the class that there were terms for 70, 80 and 90 but they were abolished after the French Revolution for some strange reason. They still exist, but they are obsolete terms now and not used anymore, except in some other french speaking countries as other commenters have said.
@SocksWithSandals
@SocksWithSandals 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I get it. 20/20 is vin survint. Wine came
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul 5 жыл бұрын
For the commentators saying "dix virgule soixante-neuf", I would add that they can also say : "dix soixante-neuf" or "dix secondes soixante-neuf" or "dix secondes (et) soixante-neuf centièmes"
@paolorubenmastretta
@paolorubenmastretta 4 жыл бұрын
Same in italian
@persis63
@persis63 4 жыл бұрын
La virgule ne se prononce pas. Je sais que "tout le monde" le fait, mais ce n'est pas correct.
@tinasouami
@tinasouami 10 жыл бұрын
I'm french and this video made me laugh so much :p
@engrenagegear9497
@engrenagegear9497 8 жыл бұрын
Just realized as a fench that my language is cancer to learn rofl
@croicullagh7530
@croicullagh7530 8 жыл бұрын
N'est pas trop difficile, actuellement c'est l'un de les plus facile langes apprendre pour Anglephones, si n'est pas le plus facile.
@pw274uk7
@pw274uk7 8 жыл бұрын
Evidemment tu n'es pas français! Correct version of what you're trying to say: Ce n'est pas trop difficile, en effet c'est l'une des langues les plus faciles à apprendre pour les Anglophones, (même) si ce n'est pas la plus facile. N.B. 'Actuellement' does NOT mean 'actually'! (Look it up in a dictionary)
@croicullagh7530
@croicullagh7530 8 жыл бұрын
pw274UK thanks!
@evanjames575
@evanjames575 7 жыл бұрын
Remember that when every child in Canada is forced to learn French numbers 1-100 in primary school xc
@Leo-vr3bg
@Leo-vr3bg 7 жыл бұрын
I just learnt swiss French. Septante and such.
@z1lla4
@z1lla4 4 жыл бұрын
"and then when they go to 70 that's where the big problem starts and Carl asks if you're going to finish that cwuasaunt"
@minkyone
@minkyone 4 жыл бұрын
in Italy we use " , " for indicating number smaller than unit and " ' " for simplifying the reading of large numbers (although it is not mandatory, it is highly appreciated) So 10 million 5 thousand euros and 78 cents becomes: 10'005'000,78€ in this way, there is no problem if you use commas or points to indicate fractions, what matter is the position (up or down).
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 10 жыл бұрын
It's not just French; the majority of languages uses a comma (not a full stop) as the decimal separator.
@goncarvandre
@goncarvandre 7 жыл бұрын
Counting in German is great too, even of they dont usually use comas, the words are increibly large !
@SangerZonvolt
@SangerZonvolt 7 жыл бұрын
@André But at least in German the words are (mostly) consistend and build up logically. You can just increase the numbers and as long as you know the new word you need to use every time you add three 000 (from one to thousand to million to billion etc) you logically know how to call every number you read.
@sadhlife
@sadhlife 6 жыл бұрын
In Hitman Agent 47, his sister's name is Katia Van Deez, which is quatre vingt dix, or 90 in french ;)
@VLQL
@VLQL 5 жыл бұрын
Katia Van Deez Nuts
@guilhemane
@guilhemane 5 жыл бұрын
Was that done on purpose? Because as a French speaker that sounds very different from 90 pronounced.
@gweltazlemartret6760
@gweltazlemartret6760 5 жыл бұрын
"Quatre-vingt douze" (92) seems more accurately approximated. At worst, "Quatre-vingt deux (82)" with an horrible "deuze" English prononciation would fit as -well- bad. :)
@ToxicDluxe
@ToxicDluxe 5 жыл бұрын
@@guilhemane Yes, it was done on purpose. IIRC it had something to do with the whole plot.
@Tidaltwist
@Tidaltwist 5 жыл бұрын
That's the Canadian pronunciation.
@sylvainbernier6230
@sylvainbernier6230 5 жыл бұрын
Fun video, thanks. Being French Canadian myself, it's quite easy for me to switch between the two writing systems. We get used to the English way of writing at least through pocket calculators which are all based on it. But I had never realized the issue with French pronunciation for native English speakers... I think the French speaking Swiss and Belgians have it best though. They do have words for 70, 80, 90 which are "septante", "octante" and "nonante". They also sound closer to English, interestingly, though I don't know the history behind that.
@FlavioPannizzo-un7nq
@FlavioPannizzo-un7nq 9 ай бұрын
They sound similar to English's ones because they come from latin or old French. In fact Italian ones also sound similar because they came from latin (settanta, ottanta, novanta)
@godqueenbidoof
@godqueenbidoof 5 жыл бұрын
As a native French Speaker I just love how confusing our numbers are. Although that was never an issue to me unlike E and I (where in French I is called "E") as well as J and G which's names are the opposite in French. The numbers thing may not be an issue for me since I'm from Quebec though
@brennaturton6891
@brennaturton6891 Жыл бұрын
Also Canadian but in BC. I went through the French Immersion school system for my entire 13 years (inc. kindergarten). I worked the front desk at a hotel and helped an ESL Francophone Gentleman book a room. He was giving me his email and I clarified with "J come jaune, ou G come gorille?" He stopped for a second and laughed. I don't recall, but that might have been the moment when he realised I am bilingual. It was a sweet interaction. I recall him sounding more relaxed when he found that out.
@PitbullPearlyGates86
@PitbullPearlyGates86 10 жыл бұрын
In Belgium and Switzerland (my country), we find ILLOGICAL numbers with "soixante-dix" and "quatre-vingt-dix". We say "septante" for 70 and "nonante" for 90. With the number 80, Belgians say "quatre-vingts", and just a part of the French Switzerland says it too, but we mostly say "huitante" for this number (me too ;)).
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 Жыл бұрын
What canton of French-speaking Switzerland are you from? These french numbers are quatre vingts (4 twenties Geneva Neuchatel and Jura possibly Berne) huitante Vaud Valais Fribourg/Freiburg or berne.
@delduwathsargeras5189
@delduwathsargeras5189 10 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm French and I want to add something to this, if we don't put the word "et" between "quatre-vingt" and "un" like we do for "soixante et un" is because there is already a "t" at the end of the word "quatre-vingt". In fact we put the "et" for avoid having two vowels following.
@RamzaBeoulves
@RamzaBeoulves 5 жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained Thanks for pointing out that we don't picture "four twenties" but rather its own thing like in other languages
@samshongwe
@samshongwe 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically in South Africa we use comma instead of point at school, even though colloquially everyone says point. It's quite odd.
@Priogab
@Priogab 7 жыл бұрын
I'm french, and I can tell you, we never put a point, we just put a space.
@MajaxPlop
@MajaxPlop 5 жыл бұрын
some calculators put the point in France
@karlosbricks2413
@karlosbricks2413 5 жыл бұрын
sometimes I have seen the point.
@TimeTraveIer_0
@TimeTraveIer_0 5 жыл бұрын
Dans ma facture de gaz pour mesurer plusieurs milliers de kWh ils ont bien mis un point, ce qui paraît bizarre au début mais c'est bien pour se distinguer de la virgule qui indique des décimales
@remifasolla5324
@remifasolla5324 5 жыл бұрын
The point occurs in French very occasionally
@stephenderry9488
@stephenderry9488 5 жыл бұрын
I have never seen the point.
@mitridi8422
@mitridi8422 8 жыл бұрын
99 = quatre-vingt-dix-neuf = (4x20)+ 10 + 9. Deal with it.
@SKP23en
@SKP23en 8 жыл бұрын
Dyms roro People went to war for much less, dammit.
@TCt83067695
@TCt83067695 8 жыл бұрын
+SKP23en c'est vrai, vous avez raison. le language est si difficile!!!(dont know the word for pointlessly difficult lol)
@BDM276
@BDM276 8 жыл бұрын
+Dyms roro Here it would be nonante neuf. Guess where I'm from :D
@mitridi8422
@mitridi8422 8 жыл бұрын
chomagable I guess Belgium or Switzerland lol. Do it in our own way !
@BDM276
@BDM276 8 жыл бұрын
+Dyms roro Belgium. Although not from the French speaking part.
@cloverhal2284
@cloverhal2284 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry English speakers we had to find a vicious way to mess with you...couldn’t resist the opportunity
@SaveSoilSaveSoil
@SaveSoilSaveSoil 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese speaker here. English speakers are certainly not the only ones you mess with. It took me a long time to learn numbers in French and I never got used to them.
@ekiri_dreams
@ekiri_dreams 5 жыл бұрын
another thing is that, when we tell phone number, we don't say "virgule", so something confusing is when telling a phone number, if you hear "soixante seize", it can either be 60 16 or 76 and if you hear for exemple "quatre-vingt dix soixante quinze", you can't even count the number of digits to help yourself out because you can end up with 90 60 15 or 80 10 75
@JoaDrath
@JoaDrath 8 жыл бұрын
quatre-vingt blaze it
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC 8 жыл бұрын
+Joakim D Was about to comment it but you beat me too it.
@Banzay27
@Banzay27 8 жыл бұрын
+sboubinch Heh, just like the prof. said, you immediately think of 80. See, this guy's being cute, he means the actual 4x20. Capisce?
@GrandTheftChris
@GrandTheftChris 8 жыл бұрын
+Banzay27 it's funny because 420 is a date, not a number.
@gustavomorice9276
@gustavomorice9276 8 жыл бұрын
+Freak80MC hahahah he beat me too lol
@applin1
@applin1 8 жыл бұрын
Quatre-vingts, with an 's'. But, it don't take the 's' when there is a number after it. For exemple, quatre-vingt-un, quatre-vingt-deux, quatre-vingt-trois, and so forth.
@kiouwax
@kiouwax 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, there are words for seventy, eighty ninety which are septante, octante (or huitante) and nonante. However, those words are only used in Switzerland and Belgium, so that's why lots of people think they don't exist, because only a minority of French-speaking actually use them. The others (France, Québec, French-speaking Africa...) count in France's way as described in the video.
@19Vila
@19Vila 9 жыл бұрын
Très bonne remarque, ces mots (septante, nonante, octante) ne sont pas connue (ou très peu connue) au Québec. Tu te demande de quoi ils parlent quand tu entend pour la première fois nonante-cinq :)
@barvdw
@barvdw 9 жыл бұрын
Well, almost correct, Belgians use septante ad nonante, while using quatre-vingts for 80. At least, the francophones do, in Northern Belgium, it's a different language altogether. The French do count in septante, huitante and nonante in the stock exchange, to avoid confusion.
@carvehard
@carvehard 9 жыл бұрын
If you listen however, the speaker repeatedly says "in FRANCE," not "in French." So he is correct because those words for 70, 80, and 90 are not used in France.
@carvehard
@carvehard 9 жыл бұрын
French numbers are CRAY CRAY. He didn't even mention the large numbers like 1.2M ("one point two million" in English). French say "one million two." Now, how do you know that's not 1,000,002? Because that would be "one million and two" (opposite of English, of course, where the "and" is grammatically wrong). So, to recap: 1,000,002 is "one million two," and 1.200.000 is "one million two."
@carvehard
@carvehard 9 жыл бұрын
Kévin Kira >1.200.000 is " un million deux-cents milles " Yes, that is the official number. But the shorthand, written like 1.2M (1,2M?), is commonly said "un million deux". Do you agree where you live?
@lonewulf44
@lonewulf44 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel ... I can turn through dozens of channels of useless television ... but I'm enthralled just learning this out of the ordinary bit of the French language.
@feelfreefpv
@feelfreefpv 5 жыл бұрын
WTF, that is my phone number! Lots of calls because of you. And by lots i mean more than soixante-douze. :(
@david_ga8490
@david_ga8490 5 жыл бұрын
REALLY?
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 4 жыл бұрын
Really
@ozone6458
@ozone6458 4 жыл бұрын
Real
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 4 жыл бұрын
OzenC did u check?
@jharbell4481
@jharbell4481 4 жыл бұрын
Rea
@buca9696
@buca9696 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful accent there dr. Most english speaking people suck at pronuncing words in other that their native language.
@mr.gentlezombie8709
@mr.gentlezombie8709 6 жыл бұрын
Most people in general struggle with accents in their non-native tongue. It's just a matter of how much they practice.
@soukaina2597
@soukaina2597 7 жыл бұрын
I've been speaking french since I was 3 and I am just now realizing how odd the french numbering system really is lol
@NathanPlaysGames1234
@NathanPlaysGames1234 7 жыл бұрын
Soukaina yeah, you never really notice how weird your own language is (like how I didn't think that all of the exceptions in English were too weird until I looked at it from the perspective of someone trying to learn English)
@garmzai
@garmzai 7 жыл бұрын
i always wonder why they use eleven and twelve instead of oneteen and twoteen lol, i guess they just sound awful
@Qladstone
@Qladstone 7 жыл бұрын
It would be firsteen and seconteen.
@Gaspard832011
@Gaspard832011 5 жыл бұрын
This way of counting is french only. In Belgium and Swiss they have different words: septante, nonante.
@Maserati7200
@Maserati7200 5 жыл бұрын
You’re cute
@johnnymartinjohansen
@johnnymartinjohansen 7 ай бұрын
10 years old, and this is still an absolutely amazing video! Thanks :)
@jamesblunt006
@jamesblunt006 5 жыл бұрын
Go to Switzerland. Or Belgium. French there makes more sense than in France :)
@chucku00
@chucku00 4 жыл бұрын
But it sounds way worse. JK.
@thorwaldsunier1508
@thorwaldsunier1508 3 жыл бұрын
Most definitely
@ryanzarmbinski7446
@ryanzarmbinski7446 7 жыл бұрын
This is very similar to how numbers are treated in Spanish, except you have to wait until 1 billion for the numbers to start getting weird.
@CarlosEduardo-gx1vm
@CarlosEduardo-gx1vm 7 жыл бұрын
big number in spanish are very logical.. ten, hundred, thousand, ten thousand, hundred thousand, millon, ten millon, hundred millon, thousand millon, ten thousand millon, hundred thousand millon, billon ..
@iwannabeanarwhal
@iwannabeanarwhal 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Zarmbinski The one billion thing is actually the traditional(and logical) naming. The USA thought it would change it because reasons and the world just went along... or at least the English speaking world. There's a video on this channel about it.
@ryanzarmbinski7446
@ryanzarmbinski7446 7 жыл бұрын
iwannabeanarwhal That is true. Many Spanish dialects that have contact with English-speaking countries (i.e. US Spanish, Mexican Spanish etc.) tend to take on those different methods of saying big numbers. The traditional method is preserved in dialects like Castilian and Andalusian.
@jorgelizaso978
@jorgelizaso978 6 жыл бұрын
Odd is calling what it should be a thousand millions a billion.
@tomf3150
@tomf3150 5 жыл бұрын
Billion, trillion, quadri....lions do exist in french iirc(never used that), but dont mean the same number of zeros as in U.S. english. For really big numbers we usually use xxx.10^yy.
@chocolatechocochoco
@chocolatechocochoco 9 жыл бұрын
Funny because I am french and I did not even realized how messed up our system is.. 80 was just "80" not "4 x 20", they sound the same but do not look similar in my mind.. I guess its the same for seven-teen -> people see 17 not seven + ten
@Erik20766
@Erik20766 9 жыл бұрын
But it still has a name of its own even though it sounds similar
@cocagamingvideo
@cocagamingvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Just for the big numbers in French, dots between three numbers (123.888.555) is rarely used. We tend to use spaces (123 888 555) but most of the time we write it as (123777888654), something to get used to. Great video by the way.
@gilbertquintereaudelachanc4906
@gilbertquintereaudelachanc4906 4 жыл бұрын
Son accent et sa prononciation française quand il énumère les nombres est absolument impeccable, presque celle d'un natif francais !!
@julien.s2002
@julien.s2002 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to learn simple French, you can actually learn Swiss French, it's so much simpler for the numbers! For example: 70: septante (and not soixante-dix) 80: huitante (and not quatre-vingts) 90: nonante (and not quatre-vingt-dix) See? Swiss French is so much simpler for the numbers
@aperson2591
@aperson2591 7 жыл бұрын
I thought Swiss french was like french from France.
@sheilas1283
@sheilas1283 7 жыл бұрын
Julos The Boss In Belgium too! When I lived there I found it so much easier than the traditional French method.
@ninadeneve7785
@ninadeneve7785 7 жыл бұрын
In Belgium they use septante and nonante, but not huitante. It is much easier for non-native speakers to use.
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 7 жыл бұрын
It's mostly just a slightly different dialect, but different dialects do have slightly differing vocabulary as well. Standard French is/was originally Metropolitan/Parisian French that was taken as the national standard, but many other dialects still exist, afaik some with even more differences from standard French than what Swiss French has.
@milou285
@milou285 7 жыл бұрын
I got points off because I learned French in Belgium but in France and the US they use soixante-dix and quatre-vingt-dix.
@onesandzeroes
@onesandzeroes 10 жыл бұрын
The comma used before decimal places is just the continental version, so English is the exception here, not French. However, the French numbers really are crazy :)
@jeanmichel2
@jeanmichel2 5 жыл бұрын
C'est amusant de les voir essayer de comprendre notre système numérique
@vazn4143
@vazn4143 4 жыл бұрын
@@akawikaa C'est un anglais qui parle super bien français j'crois plutôt non ? 😅
@haoliangzhao326
@haoliangzhao326 4 жыл бұрын
@@vazn4143 I believe he's just made a joke lol
@chucku00
@chucku00 4 жыл бұрын
Système de numération. Un système numérique est un système qui permet de traiter des informations à partir de nombres : calculatrice, ordinateur... par oposition à un système analogique qui donne une mesure à partir d'observations physiques de différentes natures et sans nécessiter de calcul réel : dilatation du mercure dans un thermomètre, règle graduée...
@Dreams_Of_Lavender
@Dreams_Of_Lavender 2 жыл бұрын
The way numbers get broken down reminds me of how year numbers are done in the states, especially in the 21st century. There's a thing I noticed where English people will say "two thousand (and) twenty-two" while in the US you'd be a lot more likely to hear "twenty twenty-two"
@SJrad
@SJrad 5 жыл бұрын
quatre-vingts le flamboyer 4 20s blaze it
@MakoTism
@MakoTism 4 жыл бұрын
Accuracy 100
@MakoTism
@MakoTism 4 жыл бұрын
@Genna Tuelz yeess euuuuh d'où you have a problème wit mi camarade
@lopkobor6916
@lopkobor6916 4 жыл бұрын
@@MakoTism cwoissant
@MakoTism
@MakoTism 4 жыл бұрын
@@lopkobor6916 pwease madwame je woudwai un C W O I S S A N T
@mathieul4303
@mathieul4303 7 жыл бұрын
French numbers are easy. Because I'm french
@hippocelestial4306
@hippocelestial4306 5 жыл бұрын
In Brazil we also use points/spaces and commas like the French do.
@skyiloh7460
@skyiloh7460 2 жыл бұрын
CARALHO
@sonomacalendar9949
@sonomacalendar9949 4 жыл бұрын
My friend from Quebec told me that it is very complicated in French Canadian. For example, to say 127, they pronounce it like this “4 times 50 divided by 2 plus 9 to the power of 3”
@Skanzool
@Skanzool 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. If he told you that he's not a francophone because that's not how we say it in Québec. Not even close.
@j9dz2sf
@j9dz2sf 5 жыл бұрын
In France, as child, we were told that π is about 3,1416 (well, actually 3,14159 but ok). But since some people group digits together, they sometimes pronounced it "trois virgule quatorze cent seize" (i.e. three comma fourteen hundreds sixteen). So they sometimes remember bad and later think it was "3,14116" (pronounced the same way in French but digits grouped differently). I saw that (3,14116) as a value of pi showed at French TV in an image, to speak about computer scientists having computed a billion of decimals of pi! A value of pi where the 4th decimal was false! :D
@KnTGaming
@KnTGaming 6 ай бұрын
I've always been taught the truncated version ( 3.1415 ), and always read it as three fourteen fifteen Never hear anyone arround me refer to it as 3.14116 ( living in north-eastern France )
@j9dz2sf
@j9dz2sf 6 ай бұрын
@@KnTGaming : 1416 peut se prononcer "mille quatre cents seize" ou "quatorze cents seize" (même si ça se fait moins), d'où la confusion qu'ont fait les journalistes.
@TheDeathdragon401
@TheDeathdragon401 10 жыл бұрын
Pi = 3, eh... Infinity.
@benoitm2810
@benoitm2810 7 жыл бұрын
Well actually we can say it as we want but we mostly say "3. 14-15-92-.." and so on
@thomashughes4859
@thomashughes4859 4 жыл бұрын
7:47 - In Spanish, we use "virgulilla" for the "doubled 'n'" in words like año. The etymology is from the Latin for "stick", and in horology, the "verge" escapement as well has the same etymology ... hm ... languages are fun stuff!
@paolorubenmastretta
@paolorubenmastretta 4 жыл бұрын
The comma thing is quite common outside of english speaking countries, in Italy is the same.
@difajabug
@difajabug 10 жыл бұрын
J'aimerais préciser que cette méthode de compter vient pour je ne sais plus quoi, des gaulois, en effet ceux-ci comptaient de manière vicésimale, donc de vingt en vingt, c'est à dire dix, vingt, vingt-dix, deux-vingt etc... Mais seulement le soixante-dis, quatre-vingt et quatre-vingt-dix ont subsisté. Voilà
@lucascl1959
@lucascl1959 8 жыл бұрын
Is he French or English ? His accent is so perfect
@la_gej_
@la_gej_ 7 жыл бұрын
Fyo_B He is actually English but he must have been in France and/or listening to french many times
@crackedemerald4930
@crackedemerald4930 6 жыл бұрын
HE'S A SPY!
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe natively bilingual? Is that a thing in the UK? I know here in the US a lot of kids are bilingual and really seem to have two mother tongues.
@eternaldeagold8280
@eternaldeagold8280 5 жыл бұрын
Maxon Mendel Lol of course it’s a thing
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 5 жыл бұрын
@@eternaldeagold8280 gotcha. I wasn't sure how much UK and France traded people.
@Doarri
@Doarri 5 жыл бұрын
In Breton it is also confusing, we have 10,20,30 and then we directly go as 2*20 for fourty, 100/2 for fifty, 3*20 for sixty, 10 and 3*20 for 70, and as you probably have guessed 4*20 for eighty and finally 10 and 4*20 for 90. Also we have our own 'teen' for numbers between 10 and 19 except for 18 which we literally say 3*6 (that's a confusing one and I used to skip it while counting when I was younger)
@apollineportable5909
@apollineportable5909 5 жыл бұрын
What? Never heard of that (i live nearby Bretagne )
@Doarri
@Doarri 5 жыл бұрын
@@apollineportable5909 Learn breton, you will see :p
@pistachel2021
@pistachel2021 5 жыл бұрын
ce qui importe, c'est les valeurs :)
@bix64000
@bix64000 5 жыл бұрын
You may add something about the way the numbers are written in French versus in English : a 7 in English looks like the number 1 written by a French person. The number 7 takes an extra horizontal bar in French. Or the 9 in French is rounded at the bottom, etc
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 7 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Canada we use a random mishmash of both, except we never use a comma for a decimal. I've seen both 10,000 and 10 000 used in the same textbook for the same number however.
@KarthikeyanDuraivel
@KarthikeyanDuraivel 7 жыл бұрын
Same here in India!
@Smaxy_
@Smaxy_ 7 жыл бұрын
char whick same in france
@chabtheman8444
@chabtheman8444 6 жыл бұрын
In Quebec we use a comma for decimal!
@eric69571
@eric69571 6 жыл бұрын
youve clearly never been to quebec where in a french school, you are taught to use a comma as a decimal and in english schools you are taught to use the point. I went to english school as a kid and later on went to french school in college and it drove me crazy!
@MPSpecial
@MPSpecial 7 жыл бұрын
In fact we do have words for 70, 80, and 90 ('septante', 'huitante' or 'octante', and 'nonante'), but for some reason we don't use them. It's so uncomfortable to count that way and it pisses me off every time. These words are used in Belgium and Switzerland though. About the digit separators, the international system of units made it quite clear: always a space between thousands, and you can choose either a point or a comma as a decimal separator (once you've made your choice you must stick with it to the end).
@kegankilpatrick7534
@kegankilpatrick7534 6 жыл бұрын
.... French is bollocks
@cyndie26
@cyndie26 5 жыл бұрын
The Japanese language uses 10,000 as the separation point (e.g. 1,000,000 = 100 * 10,000 or 100,0000). No offense, but are Japanese speakers expected to follow these standards?
@imagine_big9398
@imagine_big9398 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyndie26 yes. They are. There are rules on how to write stuff in scientific papers and if you don't stick with them you are basically confusing everyone. For general use, you just use whatever is used on your country.
@cyndie26
@cyndie26 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine_Big So I should write it one way when writing a paper in English or French and another way when writing the same paper in Japanese?
@imagine_big9398
@imagine_big9398 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyndie26 depends if you want to publish your work to the world or if its just an informal paper. Japanese mathematicians need to write numbers the same way a french mathematician does, just so if i want to read it, i know how. Look up International system of units.
@KeepAwayFF
@KeepAwayFF 4 жыл бұрын
The explaination for "Soixante et onze" (71), is that French is a latin language which requires a separation between vowels. "Soixante" ends with a vowel and "Onze" starts with one. French also went from Celtics which had a 20-based numeric system. Which explains the lack of seventy
@KokouUwU
@KokouUwU 5 жыл бұрын
That's so funny to realise that your way of counting makes sense in a weird way, love your vids man.
@terioze9
@terioze9 10 жыл бұрын
I'm half French half Canadian (from the Francophone part of the country) but I think that we should say septante (70), octante (80) and nonante (90) as the French-speaking Swiss and Belgians do, for 2 reasons: it's more logical, and it's the way we used to count 400 years ago!
@amj.composer
@amj.composer 5 жыл бұрын
French pronunciation sounds so smooth and beautiful damnn On top of that his voice O_o
@xanthumx9929
@xanthumx9929 5 жыл бұрын
haha, true :)
@daeelly150
@daeelly150 5 жыл бұрын
I m native french , and he spells it correctly and has a closed french accent in the list of 20 first numbers . Only the "un" ( "one" ) could be detected as spelled by an english/american speaker . He gas accented "un" more than when he spells "quinze"
@chenow7042
@chenow7042 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until 70 arrives
@samuelwaller4924
@samuelwaller4924 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this video ~7 years ago. I recently started learning french, and I remembered this video. I didn't remember exactly what language it was about, but I had a feeling...
@gracecorinsnow1798
@gracecorinsnow1798 10 жыл бұрын
Lived in France my whole life and still have never seen someone use a dot when dealing with thousands. Always a space.
@lesfreresdelaquote1176
@lesfreresdelaquote1176 6 жыл бұрын
For the record, the tradition to say soixante-dix is specific to Paris and the Ile-de-France. For instance, one of the most ancient hospitals in Paris is called: l'hôpital des Quinze-vingt (15/20), because it used to offer 300 beds. Interestingly the birth certificate of Jeanne Calment, who was born in 1875 is written with the expression: septante and not soixante-dix. Also, in the SMI, the official separator between numbers is the comma not the point. If you travel to any European country, except the UK, you will see commas everywhere for prices and distances. I think the rule was eventually relaxed a few years ago to accomodate English speaking countries, who stuck to their point. And since computer science originated from the US, there is now a lot of confusion in many places on whether to use the comma or the point as a decimal separator.
@acc373r4t0r
@acc373r4t0r 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure about what you're trying to say but everyone says soixante-dix in france.
@simonhamilton2037
@simonhamilton2037 5 жыл бұрын
"soixante-dix is specific to Paris and the Ile-de-France", not true, it is common to nigh-on all of France, with a couple of very minor pockets recorded as using "septante".
@azzary8523
@azzary8523 5 жыл бұрын
I'm french and i never realize that it was so difficult ! ( your accent is really nice! )
@xrayban2
@xrayban2 4 жыл бұрын
In very old french you had : vingt et dix (30), deux vingt (40), deux vingt et dix (50), trois vingt (60), etc. It's a base-20 system - probably from the total number of fingers and toes. One of the oldest hospital in Paris is the Hôpital des Quinze-Vingts, because it had 15 x 20 = 300 beds.
@yangzixiang6605
@yangzixiang6605 8 жыл бұрын
commas and points are also inverted in german. or maybe english is the odd one out
@bestpizzabakker
@bestpizzabakker 8 жыл бұрын
So do the dutch..
@Matticitt
@Matticitt 8 жыл бұрын
+yang zixiang pretty much the entire Europe uses a comma instead of a point. It's inverted in English.
@jubbe063
@jubbe063 8 жыл бұрын
same thing in Swedish, Danish, finnish and Norwegian
@poryg5350
@poryg5350 8 жыл бұрын
Czech does it too and Slavic languages in a whole as well!
@msmacavideos
@msmacavideos 8 жыл бұрын
+yang zixiang yep the same happens in Spanish; being a native Spanish speaker, it took me while to get used to the English way whenever I saw a number written like that in an English-speaking context, because my natural tendency was to interpret it the opposite way :P
@sofiaelena0901
@sofiaelena0901 8 жыл бұрын
In the French spoken in Switzerland they have words for 70 (septante), 80 (octante) and 90 (nonante).
@ohmannhey
@ohmannhey 8 жыл бұрын
+Ανδρέας The Belgiums too. LOL
@parism555
@parism555 8 жыл бұрын
I have always used septante, huitante et nonante
@robinfrenzy
@robinfrenzy 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody says octante, it's a myth!! It's huitante
@Toninjinka
@Toninjinka 5 жыл бұрын
I'm french and I enjoyed your video as well as your french accent!
@Cubinator73
@Cubinator73 8 жыл бұрын
Well, we Germans also count very strangely. For example the number 123. In English it would be _one hundred twenty three_ (first the hundreds, then the tens, then the ones). In German it would be _Einhundertdreiundzwanzig_ (literally _one hundred three and twenty_, first the hundreds, then the ones, then the tens). But we pronounce every single digit of the fractional part, that we separate with a comma from the integer part: _123,456_ would be _Einhundertdreiundzwanzig Komma Vier Fünf Sechs_ (literally _one hundred three and twenty comma four five six_) A _million_ in English stays a _Million_ in German, but _billion_ becomes _Milliarde_, _trillion_ becomes _Billion_, _quadrillion_ becomes _Billiarde_ and so on...
@hansmuller4338
@hansmuller4338 7 жыл бұрын
+Rhinosaurus Do you know if the americans also used the long scale system? And why the UK switched over to the short one? The other really confusing thing is aluminium and aluminum :D
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