Transcendental Numbers - Numberphile

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@S4MJ4M
@S4MJ4M 8 жыл бұрын
"So it'll be 10$ sir." "You mean 10 in base 10?" -_-
@SzymonRomik
@SzymonRomik 8 жыл бұрын
every base is a base 10 :(
@ddruganov
@ddruganov 8 жыл бұрын
10 is a legit number in base 2, soo..
@dudearlo
@dudearlo 8 жыл бұрын
10 = 2 :D
@bengtbengt3850
@bengtbengt3850 8 жыл бұрын
"No in binary"
@sebastianenriquez908
@sebastianenriquez908 8 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!! Genius
@GeldarionTFS
@GeldarionTFS 10 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of these videos is how excited each mathematician gets about their particular number. Other people feel how I feel!
@g-gamer4747
@g-gamer4747 10 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@uselesssanity
@uselesssanity 9 жыл бұрын
Geldarion Degana im only that happy if i see pizza
@namel6532
@namel6532 5 жыл бұрын
!eruS
@MathWithMaroof
@MathWithMaroof 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! and their eyes shine with the light of truth.
@obiwanjaco
@obiwanjaco 2 жыл бұрын
@@MathWithMaroof 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@cubethesquid3919
@cubethesquid3919 7 жыл бұрын
I love that he said in all seriousness that if he could add to the knowledge of pi, he would die a happy man
@TheAtb85
@TheAtb85 11 жыл бұрын
You know things got serious when you're asked which base you're expressing your numbers in. :D
@cparks1000000
@cparks1000000 6 жыл бұрын
?
@otakarbeinhauer
@otakarbeinhauer 6 жыл бұрын
Single question mark isn't sufficient enough. Please, specify which part of the sentence you did not understand.
@kailomonkey
@kailomonkey 6 жыл бұрын
@@cparks1000000 10 x 10 = 100
@numnut1516
@numnut1516 5 жыл бұрын
Otakar Beinhauer it’s perfectly sufficient. I’d say he was asking what a base is, for example “what is base 10? What is a base anyways?” Trying to seem smart by not understanding something is counterproductive. Use the context clues available to you it’s not hard.
@maybeyourbaby6486
@maybeyourbaby6486 5 жыл бұрын
*oh I mean 10... in base pi*
@cantwakeup4967
@cantwakeup4967 8 жыл бұрын
'7π - 22 = 0' - Simon Pampena, 2013
@Roman-us2fp
@Roman-us2fp 7 жыл бұрын
500 lb Pure Feminism No it equals 0.0084
@soup6478
@soup6478 7 жыл бұрын
Useless Tutorials t h a t i s i n d e e d t h e j o k e
@carterphillips4661
@carterphillips4661 7 жыл бұрын
Slimzie Maygen Y tho
@Rhovanion85
@Rhovanion85 6 жыл бұрын
Can you get π to 0 using the game from the video?
@BluessNRock
@BluessNRock 6 жыл бұрын
Rovix yeah π-π=0
@kikivoorburg
@kikivoorburg 2 жыл бұрын
Using a “reduce to zero game” to intuitively explain algebraic numbers is actually really smart!
@toferg.8264
@toferg.8264 2 жыл бұрын
IKR!
@NotTheRealBassKitten
@NotTheRealBassKitten 9 жыл бұрын
That sigh at the end knowing that a good days maths has been done... :)
@uniqueusername_
@uniqueusername_ 5 жыл бұрын
The sigh of QED.
@NotMe6044
@NotMe6044 8 жыл бұрын
Are we just gonna breeze past people dying because of the square root of 2?
@ben-rm3gu
@ben-rm3gu 8 жыл бұрын
pythagorean cult yo
@HiveMindedGod
@HiveMindedGod 8 жыл бұрын
They already did that video :P
@JavaPythonsVids
@JavaPythonsVids 8 жыл бұрын
that's kinda normal here man
@mathiassven
@mathiassven 8 жыл бұрын
too soon?
@JavaPythonsVids
@JavaPythonsVids 8 жыл бұрын
Mathias Sven a couple centuries late
@shinewherethouwillandthouh7455
@shinewherethouwillandthouh7455 3 жыл бұрын
I first watched this video when I was a freshman in High school. It blew my mind. Now I'm in Field theory almost done with undergrad and I saw the material again and I thought "That was it! That was the thing! This is what Simon was doing!" It made me very excited when I realized c:
@mattwinward3168
@mattwinward3168 6 жыл бұрын
“You mean 10 in base 10?” - cheekiest comment ever made on KZbin.
@minhazulislam4682
@minhazulislam4682 4 жыл бұрын
When I become a teacher, I want to be a teacher like them. They are so awesome, explain everything in simple terms first, build up the concept, introduce one jargon. let that sink in, introduce another jargon and this way, they make the content much more enjoyable and engaging. Rather than jumping right into theories, playing with numbers and seeing how beautiful they can be is probably the best way to learn math. From this video, I learnt two things. 1. What is transcendental numbers 2. How to teach someone critical concept efficiently with in certain steps Thanks to everyone who were involved in the creation of this video.
@quantumgaming9180
@quantumgaming9180 2 жыл бұрын
I like this comment very much
@minhazulislam4682
@minhazulislam4682 2 жыл бұрын
@@quantumgaming9180 thank you. You'd be pleased to know that I have plans to open a youtube channel for competitive programming. I am yet a noob at this. But I could see myself doing this for a long time.
@dancroitoru364
@dancroitoru364 Жыл бұрын
his way of teaching is unbearable. if you are to be reduced to a dummy that enjoys being told things like "1-1=0 , yey!" (for the enjoyment of his teacher) then you are beyond help!
@hliask903
@hliask903 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that Syrio Forel didn't die after all :)
@shubhammittal9764
@shubhammittal9764 8 жыл бұрын
ture dat :D
@gaussiano3388
@gaussiano3388 8 жыл бұрын
jajajaajajajasjajajajsasfnisujndgpijf
@dantec82
@dantec82 6 жыл бұрын
Season 8 he will come back
@baldrbraa
@baldrbraa 5 жыл бұрын
Dante C And here we are
@Thrashenizer
@Thrashenizer 5 жыл бұрын
hahahah, what do we say to deadly math problems?
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 11 жыл бұрын
Engineers DO NOT use 22/7! I always approximate to 3.14159 if no calc. handy. EDIT: Except my mental arithmetic is awful, so really I use 3.0 and I just pretend and fiddle a bit - adding a few numbers to guess the decimal places - The bridge is still standing, but it does have a bit of a crack through the middle, and my gears are not quite round, but hey, it just makes a funny noise and fails every six months.
@elchingon12346
@elchingon12346 7 жыл бұрын
scrub, 3.141592 > 3.14159
@soup1322
@soup1322 7 жыл бұрын
elchingon12346 Do you even math, bro? The next digit after 2 is 6. Round up much?
@elchingon12346
@elchingon12346 7 жыл бұрын
boston922 my whole life is a lie
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 7 жыл бұрын
Though you should use 3.142 ))
@DynestiGTI
@DynestiGTI 6 жыл бұрын
(pi)^2 = g
@loljk981
@loljk981 8 жыл бұрын
"Square root of 2, you know, people died for this number" STORY TIME
@5dudelsack5
@5dudelsack5 8 жыл бұрын
The guy that discovered the square root of 2 was part of this group called the pythagoreans. They were almost religious about numbers and really really liked whole numbers like 1 and 2. Then this guy found out that the diagonal of a square with sidelength 1 was irrational and they killed him.
@SathvickSatish
@SathvickSatish 5 жыл бұрын
Capricorn it sounds funny when you listen to the story. However, just imagine getting thrown off the ship and drowning for discovering something new. That’s extremely sad.
@ericvkenny3626
@ericvkenny3626 9 жыл бұрын
This man is great with words. He translates sqroots to sentences and tells elaborate vibrant stories. His games transform numbers to characters. He should consider writing a book on math, or math journalism.
@MinecraftDiscovries
@MinecraftDiscovries 3 жыл бұрын
And also great at trying not to say physcedelic
@HarryHenryHendryHarvey
@HarryHenryHendryHarvey Жыл бұрын
11:36 If you're extra curious, the 11th root of 294,204 and the 18th root of 888,582,403 are also close approximations to pi and are in fact much closer than the cube root of 31.
@FerousFolly
@FerousFolly 6 жыл бұрын
I'm such a massive fan of how much this guy loves numbers.
@CalvinLXVII
@CalvinLXVII Жыл бұрын
Me encanta la pasión que mete este tío en sus explicaciones. Reviso estos vídeos cada año, y siempre me fascinan. Este profesor es fantástico sólo por la pasión que te transmite y con la sencillez que explica las cosas. Bravo! Saludos!!
@cd-zw2tt
@cd-zw2tt Жыл бұрын
man, this channel really deserves more awards. I know its won awards before but they need to make more awards so they can win them
@fiona9891
@fiona9891 9 жыл бұрын
"You cannot not like pi." Say that to ViHart.
@fiona9891
@fiona9891 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well, I guess so. Also, it was a joke.
@fiona9891
@fiona9891 9 жыл бұрын
***** Also, by that logic, 2 might as well be 1.
@fiona9891
@fiona9891 9 жыл бұрын
I'm ignoring this post. I'm not going to respond if you try to reply to me. This is just a warning, made for no one to waste time on this.
@General12th
@General12th 9 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )TheNoobyGamer Um, are you talking to me? I haven't responded to you in eight months.
@fiona9891
@fiona9891 9 жыл бұрын
***** I ignored it but came back to my read notifications list since I was preparing an argument... The answer is, no. Why would I be talking to just you? I'm just telling people that contacting me now would be useless. I'm just tired of people plus one-ing my comment.
@TheChugg11
@TheChugg11 8 жыл бұрын
I wish this chap had been my maths teacher! I love the way he prompts them to work it out for themselves whilst being encouraging and just...*sigh*
@MartinMadsen92
@MartinMadsen92 11 жыл бұрын
This is really good. It shows a piece of some more advanced math at a level where many people will be able to follow, and at the same time it touches very different branches of techniques and results in maths, all explained by a passionate and well-formulated guy. Brilliant!
@theRealPlaidRabbit
@theRealPlaidRabbit 11 жыл бұрын
The more precise definition of transcendentals is that they are not the root of any polynomial with rational coefficients; that's why the game they demonstrate here doesn't include "multiplying it by zero" or "raising it to the zero power". The polynomials corresponding to these moves do not have unique roots. (Tell me what value of x makes the following equation true: 0*x + 0 = 0. Answer: all of them.)
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 6 жыл бұрын
Every polynomial with rational coefficients can be converted into one with integral coefficients by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominators. They will have precisely the same roots.
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 6 жыл бұрын
Even more precise definition: a complex number is transcendental if it is not the root of any _nonzero_ polynomial with rational coefficients. Of course, replacing 'rational' with 'integer' makes no difference to the definition.
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 6 жыл бұрын
@@petrospolemistis Can't tell if troll or needs to go back to school.
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 6 жыл бұрын
@@petrospolemistis Neither is 'sheep' times zero. Your statement makes absolutely no sense.
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 6 жыл бұрын
@@petrospolemistis You must be a troll, surely? You're making less sense each time. At this point you're just being silly.
@TheAAron1830
@TheAAron1830 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand math much since school... But I really appreciate someone tell the concepts in such easily understandable format... Wish I had a math teacher like you
@lnofzero
@lnofzero 8 жыл бұрын
Almost 58 years old (5 days shy) and I have learned something. Thank you. I sincerely appreciate it!
@harryemmott8597
@harryemmott8597 6 жыл бұрын
There's something so charmingly intense about this man, even in the first two seconds of the video: "It's mind-blowing"
@kemsatofficial
@kemsatofficial Жыл бұрын
6:09 Dude, learning that it was a number cost me a lot of debt. You just explained it better in like 15 seconds. Thanks mate.
@metoothanks9448
@metoothanks9448 8 жыл бұрын
This guy's passion is contagious.
@Phoenixon7
@Phoenixon7 11 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Euler's Identity!!
@Ken.-
@Ken.- 5 жыл бұрын
He was a white male, Swiss, about 5'5", which many believed to be the Zodiac killer during the 1970s.
@mitalipandit2891
@mitalipandit2891 5 жыл бұрын
He means e^i*pi + 1 = 0 The equation at 12:07
@nicecubin
@nicecubin 5 жыл бұрын
Ken Sarcasm?
@VancMan
@VancMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitalipandit2891 you know that is not Eulers identity its an equation that uses Eulers identity but the general form is e^ix = cos(x) + isin(x). Also if im not mistaken Euler didn't even discover this.
@indubansal6831
@indubansal6831 4 жыл бұрын
@@VancMan It is called Euler's identity. The one you mentioned is the Euler's formula.Things are not always named after their discoverers. Eg. the pythagoras constant(root 2) was discovered by Hippassus(the spelling may be incorrect) but it is named after pythagoras as it is derived from the pythagoras formula.
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 4 жыл бұрын
My dream is to yell pi is exactly 3 to quiet a noisy crowd of mathematicians
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 9 жыл бұрын
"no flies on you" aweome phrase
@ACoupleStoners
@ACoupleStoners 5 жыл бұрын
"its a time when you're really into... Out I'd body experiences and stuff" Psychedelics. He was trying to not say psychedelics. Lol
@mhxybeats653
@mhxybeats653 4 жыл бұрын
Othership Adventures you already know all these mathematicians are hipped
@842Mono
@842Mono 8 жыл бұрын
If you have a function y=e^x then the value of y is always equal to the value of the slope of the tangent at that point. The best brief explanation of e ever!!
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 5 жыл бұрын
9:45 "You love Pi. It comes" -Simon Pampena, 2013
@declassified1
@declassified1 5 жыл бұрын
Psy trance djs sampling this episode for sure . "E is transcendental " lol
@bonnaudangelinisoren6416
@bonnaudangelinisoren6416 2 ай бұрын
bro i was listening to jungle and the video played randomly and this was exactly my thoughts
@declassified1
@declassified1 2 ай бұрын
@bonnaudangelinisoren6416 lol 🍻
@randellrussell2400
@randellrussell2400 6 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of numberphiler and I like your style the most . Cheers mate.
@juliandale8006
@juliandale8006 9 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, imagine if the transcendentalist Henry David Thoreau discovered these numbers.....
@General12th
@General12th 9 жыл бұрын
***** He'd probably just dismiss it as worldly and unjust.
@mancheaseskrelpher8419
@mancheaseskrelpher8419 9 жыл бұрын
***** Transcendental numbers are superior to transcendentalists. Just another fact of life.
@shubhamhorambe7903
@shubhamhorambe7903 8 жыл бұрын
At 10:16 simon says the "e raise to any algebraic number is transcendental ..but he forgot to say that the number also needs to be non zero , since e^0 is 1 which is not transcendental
@2Sor2Fig
@2Sor2Fig 10 ай бұрын
My initial comment would have been, "The only thing this video taught me is that Pi=22/7": sarcastic appreciation. But this man's clear dedication to his craft makes it impossible for me to mock, even unintentionally. I've enjoyed many of your videos, but this one touches a nerve I never even knew existed. And I thank you for that.
@navsquid32
@navsquid32 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion. I've always thought simply of transcendental functions, but never considered a transcendental NUMBER as being an actual singular number that is not a root of some characteristic polynomial equation.
@michaelcollins9793
@michaelcollins9793 2 жыл бұрын
I agree..
@classicalwisdom1846
@classicalwisdom1846 5 жыл бұрын
"10 equals 10 in base 10." Hilarious on so many levels!
@fernandojorge7764
@fernandojorge7764 2 жыл бұрын
That look of disappointment when he heard ten as the favorite number, he just had to double check "10 in base 10?" "Yeah" "Okay peasant"
@sukhr6928
@sukhr6928 7 жыл бұрын
"No flies on you mate", what a great compliment :D
@thatslife1058
@thatslife1058 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. It's much entertaining than watching any movie.
@daviddemar8749
@daviddemar8749 5 жыл бұрын
Boy did I love this and I was able to follow it almost to the very end. Thank you for making me feel smart and remember dont drink and derive!
@Nixitur
@Nixitur 8 жыл бұрын
What I find even more surprising is how few algebraic numbers there are. There's an infinite number, sure, but it's only _countable_ infinity. Which means that there are as many algebraic numbers as there are natural numbers and that's just fantastic.
@cubicardi8011
@cubicardi8011 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong, there are uncountably many algebraic numbers because there are irrational algebraic numbers
@Nixitur
@Nixitur 6 жыл бұрын
+Cubi Cadi - That's like saying "there are uncountably many natural numbers because some natural numbers are real". It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of logic.
@muhammedkoroglu6544
@muhammedkoroglu6544 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nixitur isn’t what @Cubi Cardi is saying more like “there are uncountably many real numbers because real numbers contain irrational numbers, which are uncountable”? Because algebraic numbers contain some of the irrational numbers
@Nixitur
@Nixitur 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhammedkoroglu6544 No, they are literally saying "there are uncountably many algebraic numbers" which is objectively false.
@epicmarschmallow5049
@epicmarschmallow5049 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicardi8011 the algebraic numbers are a countably infinite union of countable sets, which is countable
@lolatomroflsinnlos
@lolatomroflsinnlos 8 жыл бұрын
Great moves, Ethan.
@vtmuseum
@vtmuseum Ай бұрын
After all these years still the best video!
@ParthSharma1996
@ParthSharma1996 9 жыл бұрын
if e to the power any algebraic number is transcendental , it would mean that ln2 , ln3 .i.e natural logarithms of all algebraic numbers are transcendental . Because if they weren't e to the power that number would be algebraic , which can't be!
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 6 жыл бұрын
Surely this should read "if they weren't, e to the power that number would be *_transcendental,_* which can't be?"
@ivantheawesome409
@ivantheawesome409 5 жыл бұрын
ln2 isn't algebraic is it?
@mueezadam8438
@mueezadam8438 5 жыл бұрын
_“Counting is how we build numbers”_ _“Geometry is how we build numbers”_ _“Algebra is how we build numbers”_ and on and on again whenever new techniques are discovered
@timothyinnocent3311
@timothyinnocent3311 4 жыл бұрын
"Topology is how we build numbers" "Ramsey theory is how we build numbers" :p
@gnochhuos645
@gnochhuos645 4 жыл бұрын
Currently computing is how we build numbers
@atimholt
@atimholt 4 жыл бұрын
Enough of each is mutually isomorphic, so it all works out the same, essentially.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 3 жыл бұрын
@@atimholt Eh, not quiet. Counting is algebra is combuting. Its all digital. Gemometry is fully analog, and thus can accomodate weird things that cannot be expressed as deri atives of arbitrary concretes.
@jorriffhdhtrsegg
@jorriffhdhtrsegg 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnochhuos645 we tell them what to do and keep having to fix their inaccuracies
@maegodragon
@maegodragon 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Mind Blowing! I appreciate Complex AKA Imaginary Numbers so much more! Your Passion makes me Exhilarated! So much Fun learning from You!
@aldenwilner3300
@aldenwilner3300 5 жыл бұрын
6:52 "Hey let's mess with the subtitler. I'll write 24, but say 20. Won't that be a laugh?"
@AlexKing-tg9hl
@AlexKing-tg9hl 5 жыл бұрын
10 in base 10?
@AllYourMemeAreBelongToUs
@AllYourMemeAreBelongToUs 2 ай бұрын
Interesting perspective. You could call that transbasic.
@newsoupvialt
@newsoupvialt 6 жыл бұрын
It's wild to think how much power the contradiction "a is a whole number between 0 and 1" has. I feel like now that I'm getting into more advanced maths and proofs, it pops up all the time when it comes to proving that something is irrational, or transcendental, or any number of things.
@Goodwithwood69
@Goodwithwood69 9 жыл бұрын
e is a number? I was droppin' numbers in the 90's too some banging tunes!
@L0j1k
@L0j1k 5 жыл бұрын
The 90s were pretty great. I still eat lots of e tho.
@dropkickedmurphy6463
@dropkickedmurphy6463 5 жыл бұрын
The way you did it still works, but I like to combine roots. So the 2√2√3, I would make into 2√6 and then square that.
@Nexuhss
@Nexuhss 2 жыл бұрын
His excitement is infectious
@pcguy2
@pcguy2 7 жыл бұрын
loved when he laughed about being "interested in out of body experience" in college. wink wink
@Ken.-
@Ken.- 5 жыл бұрын
The audio captions have [INAUDIBLE] at: 8:54 "there's actually cooler stuff I can show you other than e."
@simonconroy7610
@simonconroy7610 3 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the best numberphile video
@dx8pi6o48
@dx8pi6o48 5 жыл бұрын
8:56 Captions: [INAUDIBLE] should be “cooler”
@KingDevyn
@KingDevyn 10 жыл бұрын
I see that in this videos thumbnail you have pi tetration e. I'm sure this wasn't on purpose, but it leads me into the following request. Could you do a video on what comes after exponents? Aka tetration. Or a video describing all the hyperoperations? Hyperoperation 1 is addition hyperoperation 2 is multiplication hyperoperation 3 is exponents, hyperoperation 4 is tetration, and so on.
@PC_Simo
@PC_Simo 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the subscript meant base; as in: e in base π. They should redo their dungeon number -video with tetration, instead of bases. That would really blow up fast. Maybe something close to f_ω(n). 🤔
@rascal1514
@rascal1514 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell Simon was holding himself back from jumping up n down at how excited he was getting.
@leojurgens4188
@leojurgens4188 10 жыл бұрын
Is there a mathematical equation that proves that pi is delicious?
@leojurgens4188
@leojurgens4188 10 жыл бұрын
***** Nice.
@error.418
@error.418 10 жыл бұрын
***** False premise, whole numbers are rational numbers, and I always like to eat the whole thing. Also, pi has nothing to do with pie, so again, false premise. Also, tau is the one true circle constant. All hail the hypno tau.
@error.418
@error.418 10 жыл бұрын
***** XD
@leojurgens4188
@leojurgens4188 10 жыл бұрын
If seven 8 nine, does that make seven a cannibal? And what does 69 taste like?
@error.418
@error.418 9 жыл бұрын
LanceAtlas Uh, hate to break it to you, but Pi radians is only half a circle. If you want to eat the whole pie, you're going to need Tau.
@kcsongor
@kcsongor 9 жыл бұрын
10:10 according to that, 0 is not an algebraic number :D just nitpicking
@abdulhadiayyad
@abdulhadiayyad 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes if you're an engineer, "pi is 22/7". Devastating.
@ElPastalero
@ElPastalero 5 жыл бұрын
2:50 He's *irrationally* happy.
@Etrehumain123
@Etrehumain123 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@NG-we8uu
@NG-we8uu 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed at this lol, but isn’t that what beauty is? What’s beautiful in substanceless ratios
@parsataleb3184
@parsataleb3184 9 жыл бұрын
11:10 Engineers are not that dumb!
@SOLAR_WillToWin
@SOLAR_WillToWin 7 жыл бұрын
Once you've seen this a few times the concept really starts to make sense!
@0xbenedikt
@0xbenedikt 8 жыл бұрын
8:10 Why can't you do ^0 - 1 -> e^0 -1 = 0 I don't think that would break the rules as 0 is a whole number.
@rafaellisboa8493
@rafaellisboa8493 8 жыл бұрын
Because you can't use techniques that bring every number to a whole number.
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 8 жыл бұрын
Usually in my experience, "whole number" is used to refer to any natural number other than 0.
@erjio983
@erjio983 8 жыл бұрын
because something to the power of 0 is the same as saying x divided by x, and you arent allowed to divide.
@uchihamadara6024
@uchihamadara6024 7 жыл бұрын
if you are allowed to multiply it follows you are allowed to divide since division by a number is just multiplication by the reciprocal of that number. You can't use e^0 - 1 since whole numbers do not include 0.
@cyberus8525
@cyberus8525 2 жыл бұрын
@@uchihamadara6024 yeah...but 0 is a whole number!
@NoisqueVoaProduction
@NoisqueVoaProduction 9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever made a video about Euler-Mascheronni constant? Also known as Napier's constant or number e?? I believe a lot of people already know but a lot don't and the history behind it must be quite interesting, so many mathematicians behind and using it… An intro for logs, natural log, calculus… I know that the function (1+1/n)ˆn; if n gets arbitrarily big, it tends to e Where else can the number appear??
@claudioestevez1028
@claudioestevez1028 2 жыл бұрын
Funniest and most energetic professor in this channel 👍
@suchirgpta
@suchirgpta 4 жыл бұрын
"you cannot not like pi" *Vi Hart enters the chat*
@Jimpozcan
@Jimpozcan 9 жыл бұрын
As a non-mathematician, I too love pie (9:42), meat pie, shepherds' pie, apple pie ...
@grabern
@grabern 7 жыл бұрын
Cottage pie, mince pie, chicken pie, fish pie...
@jeromelarson6732
@jeromelarson6732 8 жыл бұрын
Love this guy's enthusiasm!
@gurukgiorgos5320
@gurukgiorgos5320 9 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Euler's identity..
@cromthor
@cromthor 9 жыл бұрын
+Guruk Giorgos Euler. Leonhard Euler. That was his identity. That was his real name. (ok, sorry, had to do it ;-)
@gurukgiorgos5320
@gurukgiorgos5320 9 жыл бұрын
+cromthor I actually didn't know that. Thanks!
@squarerootof2
@squarerootof2 5 жыл бұрын
The Euler's identity, starring Matt Damon. I've watched that movie already.
@majedashraf523
@majedashraf523 5 жыл бұрын
11:09 ooooohhhhhhh Mathematician roasting engineer
@flybennu
@flybennu 6 жыл бұрын
I was definitely into out of body experiences during my first round at uni!
@magoo9866
@magoo9866 5 жыл бұрын
How to beat the magician: Magician: "Pick a number." Nobody: Me: "e"
@RubikMaster13
@RubikMaster13 11 жыл бұрын
Can anybody answer this for me. can't you just take pi to the power of 0, and then subtract 1? Heck, why cant you just multiply pi by 0. that fits the rules of the game showing that it's an algebraic number. This must be wrong, but i cant see why.
@sunk6478
@sunk6478 5 жыл бұрын
It makes the game too easy
@aritroc3368
@aritroc3368 5 жыл бұрын
How to make π: To make the dough for the pie crust, mix 2 1/2 cups all-purpose flour and 1 teaspoon each salt and sugar in a medium-size bowl. Cut 2 sticks chilled unsalted butter into pieces. With a pastry blender, cut in butter, working until mixture resembles coarse meal. 2. Add 4 tablespoons ice water; work with hands until dough comes together. If dough is still crumbly, add more ice water a tablespoon at a time (up to 4 more tablespoons). Do not overwork. 3. Divide dough in half, and flatten halves into disks. Wrap disks separately in plastic; refrigerate at least 1 hour. 4. To form the pie shell, roll the dough on a floured surface into a 14-inch round. Wrap around rolling pin and carefully unroll over a 9-inch pie plate. 5. Fit gently into bottom and side of plate. Use kitchen shears to trim dough to a 1-inch overhang; fold under, and seal to form a rim. 6. Crimp rim with fingertips and knuckle. Repeat with remaining dough; wrap each with plastic, stack, and freeze.
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 10 жыл бұрын
13:10 Checkmate!
@jacksainthill8974
@jacksainthill8974 10 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 10 жыл бұрын
Jack Sainthill Im just commenting on the finality of his delivery. Probably sounded funnier in my head than it did in text.
@jacksainthill8974
@jacksainthill8974 10 жыл бұрын
Rather, the point was more _obvious_ in your head than it was in other people's, perhaps. Anyway, I've plussed it, albeit only because of your boldness in granting the community the intelligence to work it out for itself - an excellent comedic device when it can be brought off, but which is also, alas,very difficult to judge properly.
@ΜΙΧΑΗΛΚΑΤΤΗΣ
@ΜΙΧΑΗΛΚΑΤΤΗΣ 8 жыл бұрын
e^0=1 this means 0 is transcendental as well?
@MuffinsAPlenty
@MuffinsAPlenty 8 жыл бұрын
e^0 is the one exception to the theorem. 0 is indeed algebraic.
@MathWithMaroof
@MathWithMaroof 4 жыл бұрын
I found this channel very late! Evey video is fantastic!
@urbanpsych0
@urbanpsych0 11 жыл бұрын
Leave it to a mathematician to confirm base 10.
@avitalalef9947
@avitalalef9947 5 жыл бұрын
5:51 People *_DIED_* cuz of this number
@DrBeah
@DrBeah 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this elegant explanation.
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 8 жыл бұрын
Who knew h3h3 was such a maths genius?
@JonathanHernandez-eh4lm
@JonathanHernandez-eh4lm 8 жыл бұрын
Vapenation yall \//\
@prateekgurjar1651
@prateekgurjar1651 8 жыл бұрын
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@jacobp3367
@jacobp3367 8 жыл бұрын
Olivia Lambert *math
@jacobp3367
@jacobp3367 8 жыл бұрын
Olivia Lambert *math
@pangyaholic9821
@pangyaholic9821 8 жыл бұрын
+Jacob P *maths
@minuprasad2590
@minuprasad2590 8 жыл бұрын
this guy is my favourite in numberphile
@sloaiza81
@sloaiza81 8 жыл бұрын
funny the stereotypes mathematicians have about engineers
@Ken.-
@Ken.- 5 жыл бұрын
Engineers usually do use approximations of values like π.
@Flexy59
@Flexy59 4 жыл бұрын
69th like lets goo
@kapoios1453
@kapoios1453 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flexy59 Well it's a fact that π^2=g(m/s^2).
@MrSirBossmanChief
@MrSirBossmanChief 10 жыл бұрын
is a transcendental number times an algebraic number a transcendental number?
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, because you reduce by another algebraic number however you wish and are left with another transcendental number, you cannot induce an algebraic number to be transcendental except by definite function
@TheColourCyan
@TheColourCyan 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just like Tau is Pi x 2, still transcendental.
@omp199
@omp199 10 жыл бұрын
Skyi Cowboi "It has to be a transcendental number, otherwise you could play the game." That's simply not true. You can't "play the game" with just any old algebraic number. And even if you could, the result would not follow, because multiplication by an arbitrary algebraic number is not one of the allowed moves in the game.
@scottrackley4457
@scottrackley4457 10 жыл бұрын
TheColourCyan I think Tau is the more basic number, but only because of radii, it seems more elegant
@fishbrehth
@fishbrehth 9 жыл бұрын
omp199 zero is not necessarily algebraic. it's more of a concept than a quantity.
@ronbally2312
@ronbally2312 Жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation of what algebraic numbers are.
@afarro
@afarro 2 жыл бұрын
Does the game allow an infinite number of operations?
@PC_Simo
@PC_Simo 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don’t think so. Because, if it did, e and other such numbers, which can be expressed precisely with an infinite sum, infinite continued fraction, etc., could be brought down to 0. 🤔
@Athirathan
@Athirathan 10 жыл бұрын
Is the following expression correct?, e^(1-1)-1=0. (I am using only the functions that you listed) if so, how is e transcendental? Please clarify.
@natehoffmaster6726
@natehoffmaster6726 7 жыл бұрын
It's trivial, and you could do that with any number excepting zero.
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 6 жыл бұрын
(1-1) isn't a whole number coefficient. 1-1 is zero, which is not usually considered a whole number. Also, you can multiply any number by 0 and get 0, transcendental numbers included. It's kind of the math equivalent of defining a word using the word you're trying to define. An algebraic number needs to reduce to zero using a rational polynomial that isn't zero.
@TruthNerds
@TruthNerds 6 жыл бұрын
Well, he was lying, you can only take something to the power of a natural number. x to the zeroth is not allowed.
@patrickmcmanus1360
@patrickmcmanus1360 9 күн бұрын
It’s basically like with algebraic numbers you can get them into the group of rationals by multiplying them by themselves enough but with transcendental numbers you can’t get them into rationals by multiplying them by themselves nor even by taking the differences between those multiplications
@Dank_Engine
@Dank_Engine 10 жыл бұрын
This guy reminds me of Russell Brand, if Brand were actually smart.
@sarahkempenaar3407
@sarahkempenaar3407 10 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true man... computer... thing
@sampollard8707
@sampollard8707 9 жыл бұрын
Maurice Webb Agreed. My Number Wumber or My Mathy Wathy kind of thing.
@adamschlinker972
@adamschlinker972 6 жыл бұрын
This guy reminds me of Russel Brand, if Russel Brand were Australian and a mathematician.
@fofolp1213
@fofolp1213 8 жыл бұрын
but what about logarithmic numbers?
@kardo7837
@kardo7837 8 жыл бұрын
FofoLP if powers are algebraic, then logarithmic definitely are too
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 8 жыл бұрын
+Kardo Dastin How so? I don't see how this follows.
@KaizokuKevin
@KaizokuKevin 8 жыл бұрын
FofoLP since e and log/natural log are related, and e^n doesnt work for any value of n then we can assume log doesnt either
@stranger0152
@stranger0152 8 жыл бұрын
e^n doesnt work when n is algebraic. so it is not true for all numbers. For example i(pi). For natural logaritma ln(n) when n is algebraic ln(n) wont be algebraic. for example ln2. ln2 = x so e^x = 2 which means x must be transcendental. For any logaritma for example log(n) (log(n) is 10 based logaritma) when n is algebraic : log2 = x so 10^x = 2 x will be transcendental. but if n is 10^y, y is algebraic, log(n) will be algebraic.
@rock00dom
@rock00dom 29 күн бұрын
This guy is an incredible speaker.
@Dohoangminhmarty
@Dohoangminhmarty 7 жыл бұрын
"you can not not like pi" *writes down Tau :D
@julianvisser2566
@julianvisser2566 9 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like Matthew Santoro with a wig.
@nonnahs918
@nonnahs918 9 жыл бұрын
@dumu4700
@dumu4700 9 жыл бұрын
Julian Visser looks more like Ray William Johnson with a wig
@TheHamericano
@TheHamericano 9 жыл бұрын
+Julian Visser and a beard... First video i clicked i was kinda hoping that was the case...
@ryandupuis5860
@ryandupuis5860 8 жыл бұрын
ha
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