Problems with my Atlas Metra Bilevel Nippon Shayro cars...since Day 1.

[@OutlawRailroader]

Glad i found your channel....this is the first i'm hearing of the Atlas coaches having issues.....up till now i was kinda leaning towards the Rapido coaches cuz the detail looked way better, after this i think i'll just go Rapido......makes more sense for me bcuz i want to model late 80's early 90's pre merger BN commuter operations anyway and the Rapido cars are the Budd style and i want to Pull them with E units in BN livery. I'm sure i'll end up with both style Coaches and mix in some more modern motive power like so F40PH's, much like you've done....Love the layout....great channel here....i subbed...

[@Chitwn81]

@OutlawRailroader Welcome and thank you so much. Yea alot of folks have had derailing issues. It seems to be the speed cables needs to be trimmed. I haven't had a chance to do mine yet.

[@BIDuniversalinfo]

I had that same problem with derailment on 33" and 35" curves when I purchased these Atlas cars straight out of the box and they cost me $350 which is a bit more expensive then the Rapido Bud car set which ran beautifully in the videoI made over a week ago. I got fed up and exchanged them for Rapido Bud cars. For $350 to have endless derailments and no directional light then I'll just stick with the Rapido cars from now on.

[@zeus6984RE]

Check the wheels with a gauge. Try Kadee long couplets.

[@Ryochi2011]

I was thinking maybe it's that section of track or maybe if there was a way to make the car a bit heavier so it will stay on the curves. That's gotta su seeing how expensive the care were.

[@AnnnTelop87]

I don't have trains, but I watch SMT on utube , and RPB . I saw once a problem with derailing, the couplersin between the cars needed to be changed, they were sticking on turns.

[@dong3544]

I have the same problem with the same cars on super-elevated curves. I noticed the axles occasionally lift off the track, causing the car to derail on those curves. On straight track the cars run fine. I rarely have that issue with the Rapido Budd Metra cars. And no, I cannot run the Budd and Atlas cars together; they derail.

[@Chitwn81]

@dong3544 Someone mentioned trimming the speed cables that are off the trucks and that's what I was thinking as well. I'm going to try that and see what happens.

[@c9917k]

Have you checked f the wheels? Also look at the trucks and see if any body details are preventing them from swinging freely. As you already said, the cars may need weight added. Physics doesn't really allow for good push action on a model railroad - there's not enough weight and for it to work reliably, the cars would have to be too heavy for most locomotives to manage. Last thing - make sure the couplers aren't binding in the curves.

[@JettaCity]

I had the same issue between the car lifting off the track while turning or derailing. I had to loosen one of the trucks leaving the other tight. Even stopped using the MP36 cause I thought it was too light. Seriously my MP36 acted real funky trying to pull those atlas cars. F59PH handles much better with less derailments no stalling like the MP36.

[@Chitwn81]

@JettaCity I have both versions of the F59...the ones that look similar to the F40ph and the one that looks like cousins of the MP36 that Amtrak California used to use. I also have a RTA F40PH and a newer paint scheme F40PH. I will check to see if any of them have better results.