This video will provide you with some repair ideas - How To Fill Open Areas Under Wood Fences kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX3RpWquqdN3Zpo
@iamtheshaker5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! When I'm researching a build topic and see you've posted a video about it, I watch yours first every time!
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
@@iamtheshaker Now that's a comment I love to see and thanks for sharing.
@WORLDNEWREALITY4 жыл бұрын
Wow! A PHD lecture in wood fence installation.
@tonyd43462 жыл бұрын
I’ve been working with treated lumber for 25 plus years! Setting posts in soil, in concrete, on top of concrete, no concrete. It’s wood! The formulas for treated lumber has also changed a couple of times. I’ve replaced rotted treated posts in all of these situations more than I’d like to say. Some rot and some don’t.
@gregvancom2 жыл бұрын
Right on!!!!
@gregoryj63742 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment for I just built a fence. On the post filled them with two bags of cement and backfill the last 8 inches with soil.
@brandenparnell4897 Жыл бұрын
What does it mean you “back filled@ 8 inches
@ML-ks2lj Жыл бұрын
Any wood on concrete contact needs to have a membrane between concrete and wood I don't see what it project is
@newsview78447 ай бұрын
In the UK, concrete is used for posts. They also have concrete "gravel boards" to prevent the pickets from making direct contact with the soil.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to a video about pressure-treated lumber that might be helpful for those of you who think that all pressure-treated lumber is created equal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipnIiGeirtOGoc0
@tmmt63156 жыл бұрын
gregvancom can you add concrete to the footing to add height after you've done a concrete footing?
@brentdesselles5 жыл бұрын
Good video and your 100% correct. I am a fence builder and unfortunately when visiting with a client and such conditions like the one your showing is clearly evident, I always explain to them what we are working with, what the end product will look like and what the repercussions are if certain methods are not taking. With that being said those measures come with a cost and most of the time at least in my experience they don’t want to spend the extra money. I would normally use sonotubes in this case where the earth sits that far below grade and protect the post as much as I can but labor and material isn’t free. Most cases we will just seal the treated post as best we can and explain to the end user in the future some of the post will start to deteriorate and you may be calling me back to repair. All they see is a new fence and are happy, they don’t understand no matter how much you explain what goes on beyond those pretty #2 western cedar boards. Thanks for sharing.
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and I think there are only a couple of solutions, either grade the area before installing the fence, use ground rated pressure treated lumber or extend the footings as you suggested so that when someone else decides to pile dirt up against the wood posts, it will last a little longer
@jesseperez1365 Жыл бұрын
Or jus put a treated 1x6 or 1x8 horizontally along the bottom
@newsview78447 ай бұрын
Where I live it's quite hilly. Galvanized steel posts are commonly used with wood pickets to avoid the wood rot issue. A neighbor of mine, however, patched a downed portion of a fence with wood posts. The posts were less than 5' apart but it fell down six years in due to wind and wood rot. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if it was a wet climate or the posts were hit with landscaping sprinklers on a daily basis. If the client really can't afford to do it the right way, why not steel posts? No, they're not as pretty but you get used to them quickly.
@henrymendez6508 жыл бұрын
addd a pressure treated kick board on the bottom and leave the cement higher in a sloping postion we been doing fences for 25 years
@CL-xp4ee7 жыл бұрын
Henry Mendez different strokes for different folks
@biggerthebetter7 жыл бұрын
Its called a plinth.and there is no plinth on that fence .so if u put one on u will have no issue with the cap under the fence .
@ESDANNYBOY4 жыл бұрын
I would of V shapped a little, not going with the terrain but also not leaving that big gap.
@scottym97787 ай бұрын
You can coat the post portion that will be exposed to soil with a waterproof membrane you brush on this will buy you years.
@Imwright7206 жыл бұрын
I’m in South Florida and don’t have any problem with treated wood made for direct contact rotting out. Yes eventually , but the 2x4 and pickets are gone by then. Just now replacing some 4x4’s from 87. If your really concerned use metal posts with brackets made for 2x4’s. That’s how we did it in Austin because of the difficulty digging holes. My moms fence never needed new galvanized posts and they have been there since the early 80’s.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
Well, that's nice to hear. I've seen fences stand for decades right next to other fences that have rotted and fallen over and the only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with moisture or excessive water around the wood posts.
@mattsimmons68773 жыл бұрын
Well my opinion unless you plan on putting a form around every fence post concrete levels itself out it’s not gonna be very much higher than the ground my fence has been in my yard for 17 years and the treated four by fours or as good as new. About a year after we installed them we treated the entire fence with Thompson water seal and as long as you take care of it and treat the wood it will last forever
@CL-xp4ee7 жыл бұрын
I live in south Florida and the fence I installed 12 years ago is still solid. I must add I did not use concrete for posts. We have had hurricanes and lots of rain in those 12 years. Don't waste your money on concrete people. Just pack in posts well and you will be fine.
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
I need to ask, how far did you bury the post into the soil and what type of wood did you use for the post. I heard that Florida soil is also very sandy and allows water to drain through faster.
@vivimu6 жыл бұрын
ahahah. I went through a major hurricane in Florida back in 92 and if your fence was put in those conditions I guarantee your fence panels would be giant frisbees flying through the air. we had a 3/4 ton truck parked in front of a large window and after the hurricane it was on the other side of the yard.
@gregoryv80264 жыл бұрын
This does not apply in Minnesota, where I live. Your whole fence would heave upward as the ground freezes.
@jg84797 жыл бұрын
in northern states we only fill the post holes to a couple of inches below grade. the reason for this is because of our harsh winters frost heaving is an issue if you dome the concrete footer above grade. building practices for southern states are going to be different than building practices in northern states
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that information with us and I've been trying to tell others the same thing for years now. There is no one solution that works everywhere around the world or I should say at least I haven't found one yet.
@jg84797 жыл бұрын
gregvancom a good upsell is using steel chainlink posts instead of wood posts. there are steel to wood adapters available for this application available at any fence wholesaler. no more rotting.
@MrMac51509 жыл бұрын
Good video, and it is good common sense to get the concrete high as possible.
@tymarq074 жыл бұрын
I buy 10 ft posts and bury them 42-in deep. I dig a 12-in diameter hole for a 4-in post and use compacted pea gravel instead of concrete. I've done it this way many times. The water drains through much better
@bpkey1238 жыл бұрын
I was a concrete finisher and form carpenter for 5 years and now I am a fence contractor. I also live in southwest florida where the ground is wet all year round. concete sucks moisture instantly if the soil is wet and holds pulls water towards the fence post. in about 5 years all you have to do is lean against the fence and it will snap over easily from rot. just about every wood fence tear out i have done this has been the case. just get a vinyl fence. It will last 2 or 3 times longer than wood.
@Mustbefate7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I am replacing my girlfriend's stockade fencing she had installed about 15 yrs ago and the installers didn't use anything on the posts nor did they fill the holes in with concrete. I pulled them out to replace with taller posts and none of them were rotting. I'm in NY where we get our share of moisture- not as much as you though.
@rebeccahutcheson5997 жыл бұрын
just seal the damn wood with rubberized paint before placing it in concrete it can't suck moisture through the rubber
@robertswift61017 жыл бұрын
vinyl is ugly and looks ghetto...seal the wood before installing and it will last 20years or more,,,just ask a farmer
@hungton22237 жыл бұрын
Too much concern! Luckily, I have learned a lots "how to do install the fence" on KZbin. I installed the metal posts and regular pressure treated pickets and rails (2" x 3"). I should not have to worry too much in the future about my fence. it is very easy to replace the pickets. I used the cedar woods for the gates because the cedar woods are much lighter.
@somchaimarineatgmaildotcom6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Key, I too live in FL, just bought island property and have been planning a new fence build. ALL posts were set in concrete and I DO NOT want to repeat that fiasco. The "soil" is basically sand. About 6 inches of gravel, set in PT 4x4, fill and pack with gravel. Hole will be 30" deep, 8' posts. Tell me everything wrong with this plan. maintaining standby. Thanx
@MJ-iy4fb4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for you work.
@gregvancom4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@liamg19957 жыл бұрын
recenly had a neighbor's fence blow down. Whoever put it in was nice enough to have used an absolutely excessive amount of concrete. I ended up saving the fence panels and just drilling out the rotten wood with a big auger bit in a heavy duty drill. I coated the new post in a bunch of construction adhesive and pounded them into the concrete and put everything back together. it's good as new. Some pros would probably laugh at me, but ultimately even if it only lasts half as long this time (even though I can't see why it wouldn't hold up just as long since I drilled down to full depth and the concrete wasn't cracked) it would still be worth it because it cost us about $20 per post and a days worth of our time versus a couple grand for a new fence.
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
Some pros might've laughed at you, but I wouldn't have, because that's probably what I would've done. Good job on saving money and reusing your existing heavy-duty concrete fence post footings.
@caseyhartman70949 ай бұрын
My previous wooden privacy fence was built into the ground and a bunch of water damage so I replaced it with a vinyl fence. The fence company asked me if I wanted it to be level and I said yes. I wish they would have included an estimated gap size though. My neighbor's yard is lower than mine so I probably shouldn't backfill with soil. It needs something because I want to wash it without flooding my neighbor's yard as rainwater pools along the property line.
@bethh42713 жыл бұрын
My property sits above my neighbors. I’m trying to level my yard and their stockade fence is low so my dirt would hit about 8-10 inches of the cedar fence. I can’t raise the fence. Do I just put a barrier of concrete block or gravel enough to keep dirt off of the cedar boards?
@rosiebell23 жыл бұрын
This is exactly my problem! I am thinking to add a gravel board as the bottom of the fence is rotten and unsightly. I would then dig out the soil that has been sitting around it, add some sort of water proof membrane to hold the soil togther and hide it all with large pebbles (ie not backfilling the gap)
@jewel.s.journey Жыл бұрын
the video I was looking for.
@jjohnsoniaff13 жыл бұрын
A good gravel base up to the proposed dirt level and then cover the gravel with topsoil.
@djlouis21502 жыл бұрын
Yeah my soil was not even as well. Before I redone my wooden fence. I put a about 1 foot concrete down and then i level it to my property wall and to my house wall then I have a level ground then I started to put my wooden fence up. Look great now
@OriginalJonksy6 жыл бұрын
So what would you suggest to do instead of back filling to fill the gap???
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
Large boulders, lumber, concrete blocks and if you don't have any pets, maybe some type of low growing plants. I am planning on making a video and will put a link here when it is completed in the future for more information.
@josephsingley39082 жыл бұрын
Do I put my posts at the same hight on a sloped yard for a six foot fence
@davebarnard81733 жыл бұрын
Just curious I am installing a similar fence pickets and posts will be level but there will be a 15 inch gap between one end of fence on bottom and other end can’t I just use longer pickets and cut to fit
@gregvancom3 жыл бұрын
That will work.
@jonathanramirez-kk1ku9 жыл бұрын
My company had built a park with pt 6 by 6 and concrete way below the about 3 inches below the dirt . Is pt kind of better pr wild the dirt still rot
@That.Skinny.Climber4 жыл бұрын
Simple solution: Pour more concrete around each exposed post at a down slope,then fill with dirt.Boom.
@That.Skinny.Climber4 жыл бұрын
You always want to concrete higher than ground level,sloping down to the ground.This let's the rain drain and not pool up around the post. I'm a landscape contractor and 9 times out of 10,people pour their concrete below ground level and move on to the next hole.And where does the post break???Right above the concrete,where water has pooled up and been rotting the post slowly for years.
@wildguy03334 жыл бұрын
If your using galvanize post, will this still be an issue? Thanks
@gregvancom4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would
@silverdoggg8 жыл бұрын
seal the wood just above the concrete where dirt will contact. that would have the same effect as raising the level of concrete
@julieankhan.28015 жыл бұрын
With what?
@claudedaniels54152 жыл бұрын
Can you pre-treat the buried part of the post before you concrete it in? Emulsifier Like product.
@gregvancom2 жыл бұрын
I've heard good results from pre treating, but am not sure what works best.
@TexasEngineer26 күн бұрын
Use steel posts.
@truthtellerfreethinker73113 жыл бұрын
Use clement around the post it’s hardly to get wet or rot soil will rot.
@eddieb355 жыл бұрын
It's a 3-1/2" wood post, lucky to get 5-7 years no matter how you install it!
@Meatball-lo8ex4 жыл бұрын
If the post is solid and the concrete is accessible, why not just add more concrete up to the desired grade level. Then fill in with dirt and plant some grass and stand back and admire your work.
@benji9930 Жыл бұрын
Because you then would have a cold joint where water would seep in. And if you get freezing temperatures the it will crack. It sounds like a good idea but wouldn't last very long in my opinion.
@scottsprowl748421 күн бұрын
You have to make sure the post are rated for ground contact, soil or not its still wood, eventually it will rot. Unless you use lifetime post.
@regthebackyardjackofalltrades7 жыл бұрын
Greg, My side of my fence is a foot below limits in which I'm looking into my neighbors yard. Is it possible for me to raise each section of the vinyl fence one to two feet? In between each panel I would like to build two feet of cinderblock and cement footing below grade and two feet of footing above grade, rebuild the post to form into each footing so that I can place the post back into the ground. This may seem a bit too much but I can only do one to two panels out of six at a time. I would also leave at least 24" of rebar to continue to the next section. I've looked on countless KZbin videos but I haven't seen anyone that has raised a fence by adding footings and placed the original fence back in. I do not want to install top panels because later on I would like to cement this section of my yard for a shed but cannot since the vinyl fence would be too weak and get damaged by the weight of the cement pad.
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
I don't see why not, as long as you can take it apart in sections, you can usually reinstall it in sections. It sounds like you have everything figured out, but you can also consider using concrete blocks instead of solid concrete walls, along with an underground concrete footing and yes the two foot rebar extension is a great idea for connecting it to the next one.
@regthebackyardjackofalltrades7 жыл бұрын
Gregvan, Thanks for understanding what I was trying to describe in one paragraph. I'm a definite fan of your site. Before I build items around my home I plan it out on paper. This will be my final job for 2017 and tons more 2018 and beyond. If you get the chance could you make a video for us "Day off DIY's" on how to plan out jobs like these. Yes I do plan and the work is performed well but the distractions like honey do list, children and grandchildren cars needing repairs always delay my start date.
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
I always like to hear great things about my channel and added you're request to my list.
@alexconcord35976 жыл бұрын
Water and moisture plus the heat are necessary to cause the wood rotting and decaying, however, the basic causal agents are saprophytic fungi (not bacteria) living in the soil. If soil is dry and cold, fungi could not chew the wood. Concrete surrounding the post may have enough moisture to soak into the wood, but fungi could not survive or mobilize in the cement. Eventually, if moisture and dirt, or wet dirt splash (through rain and spray) can build up enough around the post at the top part of the concrete, the wood rotting will be happen again. To prevent this, I would elevate the concrete and do not bury the fence and post under the soil. Washing the dirt away and protecting the naked wood from moisture and fungal spores with any means of isolation (i.e. applying oil or tar or sealant) would extend the wood durability.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and great information.
@alexconcord35976 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thanks for your kind reply. I had to payback for your video. I am a plant pathologist and tried to elaborate enough detail to rule out bacteria. There are many species of bacteria in the soil, but they are not decomposing agents. They would attack to growing plants or may exit symbiotically.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to pretend like I know enough about the scientific process, but have learned a lot about how wood fence post are damaged and water seems to play an important role in the decomposition that leads to the removal and replacement of the damaged fence post. Plus why would I want to offend one of the world's greatest boxers :)
@alexconcord35976 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg. It is all nice of you. My comments were just some background addition to your fantastic video to be used by curious people. I loved Muhammad Ali and enjoyed following him since I was a kid. When he picked my name, I was 2.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and I also enjoyed watching him as a child growing up. Did he actually pick your name? Your family knew him?
@maryperz-jones452810 ай бұрын
what about using tar or wrapping Blue Skin on the bottom of the post that is exposed to wet soil ???
@mikelaba89855 жыл бұрын
I had watched this video prior to installing my personal privacy fence. My lovely neighbor after it was all built must have just became the fence expert came over and said "you know if the cement is above ground level over time it will push the post out." Showed me an example of one of mine that kind of looked like that however i wasnt fully convinced. Is there any truth to that?
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
I have heard of water in the ground freezing and forcing the fence post up, with the concrete. However, this wouldn't have anything to do with the concrete being above ground, because it would be pushed up as the ground expanded underneath the concrete footing.
@HackMasterBlaster4 жыл бұрын
Would this still be an issue if the material wasn’t wood but a composite such as trex?
@nbco553 жыл бұрын
Not really. Trex won't rot.
@TexasEngineer26 күн бұрын
The new, since about 2000, pressure treatment is not as good as the CCA with arsenic that was banned by the EPA. The new pressure treatment contains copper and no one really knows how long it will last. The CCA had a limited lifetime warranty. I am replacing some old CCA gate posts put in 1999 and 25 years old. The tag at the bottom was pristine and had the lifetime warranty info. The problem is the company went out of business and the warranty was only to the original owner. A fungus will attack exposed wood and cause decay. The fungus requires air and water. This is why the decay acts at the ground-line area. If you submerge wood permanently under water, wood does not decay. Roman piles preserved below ground and constantly wet are still working piles. The fungus requires oxygen and water. Water will attack at the wood concrete interface but slower than the soil wood interface. Once the pressure treatment is exhausted the fungus will prevail. Soil is expensive. I would have put bottom rot boards running horizontal and vary the width to match the gap, leaving 1” or so at the bottom for the grass and water drainage.
@erikvcampillo76999 ай бұрын
Question, the guy makes the mistake that you talking about un this video, now how may I delay that my fence post rotten faster?
@gregvancom9 ай бұрын
Keep as much water away from it as possible.
@stupidman97748 жыл бұрын
one $15.00 can of brush on creosote applied to entire post and bottom and 4" above ground level will solve all rot problems period.
@kevinm88656 жыл бұрын
Solves the rot problem and creates a pollution runoff concern (at least over time).
@doddgarger68064 жыл бұрын
@@kevinm8865 only for you
@kevinm88654 жыл бұрын
@@doddgarger6806 lol
@bpkey1238 жыл бұрын
if you tar the bottom of the fence post it will last much longer.
@raydeason18696 жыл бұрын
Mix 1/2 motor oil (can be used) and 1/2 diesel and paint off the wooden posts and boards to preserve.
@lianetlia52605 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks ill try 😊
@thegeneral30945 жыл бұрын
Smear dog excrement on the bottom of the post it will not rot after that
@doughowery2664 жыл бұрын
@@thegeneral3094 smear it on your ass
@terryl84476 жыл бұрын
My fence is 20 years old. When it was built the concrete was brought to grade level. Out of 200 feet I have had 3 posts rot, 4 posts broken by high winds that showed no rot and 2 where the concrete wallowed out the hole. So fence building is full of variables and it ain't rocket science. Btw sandy soil vs clay. What are your miraculous observations.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
Fence Design And Building Videos - kzbin.info/aero/PLGyVeAgAJ-tkXRqWKi_iOedGXXHKBLHFo here is a list of my miraculous observations.
@stics4122 жыл бұрын
My last fence post is less than 12 inches below the soil. Do I need another foot of soil to set the post? Can I use the quick tube and pour cement into for the desired height I need?. The yard site slopes downward and I wanted a level top.
@gregvancom2 жыл бұрын
I like to go at least 18 inches below the top of ground or soil and I would think a cardboard tube would be fine.
@elimartinez6655 жыл бұрын
Will wrapping the bottom of the post prior to setting with concrete add to it's longevity?
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4u2iKakaZWHpLs This might help.
@marknaquin27654 жыл бұрын
@@gregvancom i've been priming my 4x4;s with kiltz 36 inches from the bottom (a few coats).put the post 30 inches in the hole.leaves about 6 inches of primed ,treated post above grade.
@justingrant48604 жыл бұрын
Any updates on the post rotting
@gregvancom4 жыл бұрын
No the individual filled the space with scrap lumber, concrete blocks and never change the level of the soil. The fence still looks great and in good shape.
@Poochie431243129 жыл бұрын
yes it is a bacterial problem, but the bacteria grows when there is moisture present. So you are correct the moisture enters the posts and causes the problem.
@oddopops13276 жыл бұрын
Nice video 😃
@danielploy91432 жыл бұрын
Educational and impressive. Question if you don’t mind. Installing pickets should you start on the higher or lower ground?
@gregvancom2 жыл бұрын
Either and don't forget sometimes you can start in the middle. It's something I would measure and see what works best.
@southernman58392 ай бұрын
I have a low lying area like that. I might fill in with dirt. I like a straight fence.
@josephlfrazier97275 жыл бұрын
The grade should have been raised and compacted and let set ahead of time before installing fence.
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
That's what I would've done.
@zacharysonnier93583 жыл бұрын
Preach
@nbco553 жыл бұрын
Ayup.. usually the best way to solve a problem is to avoid it in the first place... Lol
@carolynjudd42313 жыл бұрын
@@nbco55 thanks for making me smile!
@cezzarguzz21905 жыл бұрын
been 4 years how is the fence ?
@Trump-jo8vk4 жыл бұрын
He said he will update 10 to 20 years
@lianetlia52605 жыл бұрын
But what to do if i already have that problem amd i need to fill will soil but the soil is going to scape to the other home yard?how to retain the soil?
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
I think the simplest method would be to simply pour more concrete around the fence post, before back filling. Simply do the best you can to create some type of a waterproof or even water resistant barrier between the wood in the soil.
@lianetlia52605 жыл бұрын
@@gregvancom thank you so much ill try to do so and see if i do it right and it can retain the soil
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
If it's only a few inches, you could use bricks or concrete blocks to prevent the soil from going into your neighbors yard and in a way use them to prevent the soil from touching your wood posts, but if it's more than 8 inches, then you might need some type of retaining wall.
@Trump-jo8vk4 жыл бұрын
Ten to twenty years this will outlast the pickets
@vim_usr27533 жыл бұрын
If the plan was to backfill after the fact, couldn't you just fill and level the ground prior to setting the posts and cement?
@gregvancom3 жыл бұрын
Yes, create the surface you desire before you build.
@kevindaniels4302 Жыл бұрын
its been 7 years can we have an update on that wood?
@gregvancom Жыл бұрын
I drive by here a lot and it's all weeds blocking the view , but if I remember I will.
@femineity6 жыл бұрын
What would you have done differently and still maintained a straight line fence?
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to keep it straight on the top, then I would have back filled the lower area with soil, but if you didn't want to back fill the lower area was soil, then it could've been filled with some type of wood trim, 2 x 10's, rocks, bricks, concrete blocks and the one by six fencing. This isn't the first time someone asks this question and I will make a video in the future and post a link here when it's done to provide you with more information.
@MilkMan1Savage2 жыл бұрын
Its been 6 years. What does that fence look like now?
@gregvancom2 жыл бұрын
They painted it and the paint is peeling. They used rail road ties I believe to block the bottom.
@junkmail12039 жыл бұрын
What would you suggest? Form it higher, And pour concrete?
@gregvancom9 жыл бұрын
+junkmail1203 Yes I think that would be better than trying to seal the wood with some type of paint or sealer.
@rebeccahutcheson5997 жыл бұрын
+gregvancom concrete sucks moisture out of the pole. it will cause rot itself.... wake up.. coat aka seal the damn thing with heavy rubberized paint.
@1457Larry7 жыл бұрын
Do you use a sauna tube and shore this up to the level then ?
@gregvancom7 жыл бұрын
You can. I think what you're suggesting is using solid tubes to wrap around the wood post at the bottom so that you can add additional concrete, thus raising the post footing so that the soil can be raised.
@johnvanmeter523610 ай бұрын
Couldnt you just put like tar or a under body type stuff on 4x4 that needs back filled?
@CARLOS_DANGER6 жыл бұрын
What about galvanized sch 20 pipe
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
I've seen people use it with great results, but I've also seen it blow over in strong winds. I'm not a big fan of it, because it doesn't seem to produce strong fences, they seem a little flimsy.
@fitzworld6 жыл бұрын
Rather than just point out a problem about the fence, it would have been nice for you to suggest a fix. Is the fix to cut longer slats to account for the uneven ground? Is it to add a board or something on the bottom edge? It's nice that you're able to articulate the problem, but every problem should be the impetus for a solution, and that's what you're missing.
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
The point of the video was to figure out what you're going to do before you build a fence that's going to be 1 foot off the ground. I will make another video in the future and put a link here when it is completed to provide future viewers with a few ideas about fixing something like this.
@cburg70158 жыл бұрын
is this true even if its treated 4x4 or 6x4's?
@gregvancom8 жыл бұрын
+c burg I have two treated 4 x 4's in my backyard that need to be replaced and I would imagine the fence is about 10 years old. Obviously I didn't build it, otherwise it might've lasted 12 years.
@sunthatneversets42555 жыл бұрын
Can’t you just use composite fence posts like a Trex so when you backfill to level, you are good to go. Aka composite does not rot to my understanding
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of composite fence posts, but anything that wouldn't rot would be an excellent choice. I think the reason why they aren't being used is because they're too expensive, but I wouldn't use them because they haven't been thoroughly tested over time in my opinion.
@truthtellerfreethinker73113 жыл бұрын
Or wrapped water proof covering and clement.
@donaldp92596 жыл бұрын
reading all these comment re:rotting fence posts.....have you folks never heard of AC2 treated ground contact posts?????
@gregvancom6 жыл бұрын
This guy brings up a good point and for those interested here's a link to a video that might be helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipnIiGeirtOGoc0
@carolynjudd42313 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Poochie431243129 жыл бұрын
hey junk mail Something that might work. Paint the bottom of the post and concrete top with a truck bed liner sealer. You can buy roll on liner in a can. Pouring concrete on top of already dried concrete will probably not work. you can't seal the two surfaces to make them water proof.
@stupidman97748 жыл бұрын
bef linner wont adjere to wood for long. water will enter betwreen linner and post and rot faster.
@andrewmcnary228727 күн бұрын
Someone probably said it, or was said in the video, these could be fence panels. Much harder to vary the distance to the ground if you’re a diyer. Trust me. I’ve built one fence. 😂
@stickybandit23462 жыл бұрын
That's why you use aluminum fence post and not wood.
@jackhammer83645 жыл бұрын
all you have to do is drop sand then pour concrete around the post again
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
My only problem with that is that there could be a separation point or crack between the top of the existing concrete in the bottom of the new concrete, allowing water or moisture to seep into this area a little faster than it would by absorbing into the concrete footing from the outside and working its way in towards the wood.
@joshgreene30865 жыл бұрын
Chemicals in concrete rot posts too
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
Excellent point.
@rickpearson11745 ай бұрын
Yeah, those posts will rot about the same time It needs to be replaced anyways.
@Texaschic799154 жыл бұрын
We just got a new fence put in however the left side is not leveled out and it’s bothering me that these so called construction guys didn’t know how to handle this ..
@user-pe2yx9kt4e3 жыл бұрын
Right? I feel like in so many cases I would have been better off doing the job myself
@yota87truck8 жыл бұрын
What are the chances KZbin will be around in 10-20 years.
@gregvancom8 жыл бұрын
You've got a good point, but just in case.
@drewpeacock15664 жыл бұрын
so what you going to fkn do on the other side of the fence?? how you gunna build that area up?
@gregvancom4 жыл бұрын
If I was going to add soil to one side, then I would add it to the other side. If you have a different situation, feel free to provide me with more details.
@dickhead4025 жыл бұрын
U can build it to the contor of the ground
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@TonyMontana-os8ri4 жыл бұрын
Use composite panels. They last lifetime.
@nanmer71353 жыл бұрын
Just buy 8 ft fence boards and cut them to length.
@gregvancom3 жыл бұрын
That works.
@chewie13553 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video.
@gregvancom3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@lebronjameslol35214 жыл бұрын
I would have never spent money building on that surface. I think the only way to navigate that is with a retaining wall. Build the fence on that if its code.
@sickb22004 жыл бұрын
Steel posts. That is all.
@gregvancom4 жыл бұрын
Solid titanium?
@megaman2016 Жыл бұрын
3 or 13 more years left
@Menuseto2 жыл бұрын
Use metal post not wood.
@nevermind86943 жыл бұрын
But bacteria in rot only occurs from moisture so that dude just likes to argue..... usually says things like he did about bacteria without actually thinking things through hence the likes to argue comment
@twistedbydsign999 жыл бұрын
they have to fix the footings.
@bradloflin67765 жыл бұрын
Kind of a pointless video. Offered NO solutions to the current situation.
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you aren't the first person to think I was going to provide you with some type of repair solution, when all I wanted to do was point out some of the problems from doing something like this AFTER it was built. I could've sworn I made a video, but will definitely go back and see what crack it fell into or make a new one and put a link here to provide you with a few solutions.
@gregvancom5 жыл бұрын
See if this helps, How To Fill Open Areas Under Wood Fences kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX3RpWquqdN3Zpo