Select-Terrain | Hill Decent | 4 Low | Quadra -lift | How we use them Off Road | Jeep Grand Cherokee

[@darksideemt]

Jeep really does need to hire you. The way you explain stuff and based on your use is so helpful.

[@sinkieclan6403]

I’ve used 4LOW, ROCK, and Hill Descent Control going down steep, rocky, slippery, narrow ruts. Often with steep drop offs on one side. Human error can be minimized with this setup. You set your speed and let the genius of engineering do the hard work! Yes it’s a cheat but why sweat it when you have sensors and microprocessors working for you! Good video as always!

[@alanburleigh7696]

I use snow mod frequently driving when the roads are covered in snow. Starts out in 2nd gear to minimize slippage. It holds the gears to a higher rpm. It makes the awd feel more like traditional 4wd, balanced power distribution front and rear

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

@charbel tabet If you wanna have fun yes, if you are stuck and need full trottle and those wheels turning without blocking than again yes. Turning off traction control puts the power to the wheels even if there is snow or ice on road. But be careful doing this cause unexpirienced drivers could have issues controling car in these conditions without traction control.

[@michaelhorn4540]

The only thing I don't like about snow mode is it applies the brake to the spinning wheel and that is a deficit when trying to climb a big snow covered hill like I have coming up to my house

[@DLIX2DCLI]

Hey Alan, can we just turn the dial to snow mode while parked or driving, or do you have to do anything else beforehand?

[@Alecisthegoat]

Not sure if anyone will reply lol, can you use snow mode on the highway or in fast speeds? Just curious. Thanks!

[@GlockFan19]

First, I have a WK2 Overland, with the Quadra-drive, air suspension, etc. I understand what you prefer about using 4WD Low. But I absolutely disagree about this setting putting “too much strain” on the system. It is designed to BE used. I’ve run 4WD Low all day, day after day, in Moab, for literally YEARS and have never had an issue related to using 4 Low. My 2 cents.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for your two cents!

[@REAVER781]

Ok snow mode........ how deep we talkin? Ice to 6 inches? 1 to 2 feet? Powder or Heavy Wet? March 14th dropped 2 feet of heavy wet snow in Aurora Colorado. Up to 6 inches or so of powder and Ice, Snow mode is good, but 2 feet of heavy wet? Dude, Mud and in Off-Road2. And I run 32s, 275/65R18 Duratracs, your Fun may very with the Falkens. It was a blast driving through the neighborhood.

[@AlexSadof]

Another great video Brad. What might be cool (although a bit of memory and a tad more time in the edit) would be to have a little graphic or text in the lower corner that showed what mode you were in during certain climbs/obstacles so the viewer can see what you're doing when. Cool stuff and great info tho!

[@hoodi3glivin229]

Just bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. Thanks for all the tips!!! And this video is being saved!! Thanks for the brake down with clips so very helpful!!!

[@antoniojosuegonzalezrodrig4822]

Is your jeep good? Tryna buy one but they said realibity is nad

[@andoniades]

I like your vids. What will make them better is you showing offroad content while talking in the background...from beginning to end of the vid. I know it's a subjective comment, but it's food for thought.

[@michaelhorn4540]

I like the hill decent on my jeep because if you downshift on the jeep, the low gear isn't low enough

[@MEDEDOME]

Thanks for sharing your insight with us. My wife and I really like the soft comfortable ride of the Quadra-lift air suspension. Makes for a real relaxing ride up to the cottage and those SRT seats are really nice also in the Trailhawk. We love our WK2.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Those seats are nice!

[@MrPGoltz]

Great explanations. Thank you for inspiring me to do more with my Jeep Grand Cherokee.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Absolutely!

[@August_Bos]

*Lives 12 hours north of Canadian/US border*. I use snow mode when highway driving on ice, I find auto is brutal for the slippage and it will pull you to the side HARD sometimes (2012 overland; 210,000kms). I have issues once in a blue moon with air suspension if it is really cold (-40 to -55C) where it actually disables the 4WD and pops a service light. Usually it goes away once it warms up a bit (again, maybe 1-4 times a year but never a major issue). Only issue I really have is snapping exhaust manifold bolts (5.7L). Good video though, I agreed on a lot of it and learned about sand mode.

[@SRMitchell91]

I have used snow mode in my 2019 Compass Trailhawk... It’s incredible how well it handles it!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Awesome!

[@SRMitchell91]

Update… I’m buying a WK2 TH. Lol. Thanks for the inspiration! Compass is too small and doesn’t have the same capability as the grand!

[@d.Cog420]

Great vid, thank you. Just bought a 2021 Ltd and using it to tow wife's horses up a steep mud drive where she rides. Will test with a load of hay first and start in auto.

[@MrKozanitis]

Hey, Brad! Very DECENT of you to enlighten us about the hill DESCENT control mode! ;-) As usual, a very helpful video. Thanks.

[@chrisbridgland7212]

You can change the speed up and down when using downhill assist via the paddle shifters next to the steering wheel

[@kevinyoung1798]

Hello. On your rig you have a custom front scoop and brush bar , your friend in this video, with the white trial hawk , looks like a stock front end. Has he has any issues banging it up on rough terrain ?

[@adamkriska7924]

I have a 2021 Cherokee high altitude. You make me want to do this!!

[@brendanhancock9826]

Sand mode in a snow storm on back roads is the best!! Drift city USA

[@jaradderosa3252]

My advice is to look at the EVIC system when changing terrain modes. It allows you to see what the 4x4 system is currently doing. The biggest one is when you select any mode other than auto you will see a padlock icon come on over the drivetrain showing the center and or rear diff locks. The difference between the sand and mud are traction control and suspension height changes. I think mud takes you up to OR1 when selected. I know that Rock locks both diffs and raises you to OR2. You can override the height and lower back to OR1 manually.

[@tge96]

Is the EVIC system that you're referring to, "offroad pages"? or?

[@rossmischnick]

I think the trailhawk only has a rear E-LSD. No locking diffs front or rear.

[@billj5645]

4Low is usually not needed until you get to something steep. You can lean pretty quickly how steep the road needs to be to require 4Low and you can shift when you get to those sections. You can be in trouble if you end up on something steep where you need 4Low and you haven't shifted yet. Worst case you have to back down a little bit and then engage 4Low. I've done a lot of moderate trails where I did it all in 2High.

[@stefanoc4284]

As far as I know, during a off-road trial it's always better to use the 4 low because the vibrations of the road are filtered by the reductor and this protects the gear box.

[@topcatracing]

Thanks for the informative video. I've mainly driven on sand on moderately deep dessert sandy trails and here I find 4H/Sand+Mud setting on standard ride height best. I only go to 4L/Sand when in deep sand driving onto or on sandy beaches but drop height to Offroad1 unless hit very deep ruts. I find my 2012 GC Overland Diesel handles these situations extremely well. One observation when working on the front end when jacked up is that running Offroad2 for prolonged periods will put the front CV's at fairly extreme angles, especially on full lock and would put a lot of strain and wear on the driveshafts. One comment on the reliability of the air suspension. My GC has done 250,000k's of mainly highway use and recently burst a rear airbag while parked in standard ride height on a beach. Went off with a bang and rendered the car barely drivable! Luckily was only 2km's from where I was staying on holiday in Shark Bay (850kms from the nearest city, Perth!) and had a pair of new airbags shipped from Melbourne to Perth and trucked up to my motel within 2 days, a 4,000 km trip. In the process of rupturing, it broke the plastic airline connector on the bag, but luckily I knew from previous encounters on the front air suspension, that these are a weak point and had a pair of spares on me (ex E-bay). The good news was it only took me an hour or so to replace both airbags and I was mobile again - for maybe another 250K? Oh, I have already replaced the front air suspension and compressor (with cast alloy piston, not plastic as in the factory ones) so 90% of the system is now new. So my advice for people with older vehicles fitted with quadralift is, don't wait for something to go wrong. It's cheaper and easier to replace all these parts once your vehicle hits 10 years/200,000kms, whichever is first and you'll likely get another 10 years of reliable service out of it.

[@TheCybercrash]

Really interesting topic. Today I used snow mode the first time and it seems to cut down the max throttle. Also the Jeep starts driving in 2nd gear. Still testing.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the comments!

[@AVRJEH]

Very useful overview of the different modes and larger system Brad! Thanks!

[@stormsturckow]

Great coverage and valuable information on our infamous selctrac system. 🙌🏼

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks Storm!

[@c.m.cunningham1175]

For "Hill assistant" you can shift up to I think 5 mph using the paddle shifters going up hill. Haven't tried it with center console manual shifter.

[@f5snopro11]

Funny you mention this. I do silver lake in Michigan all the time. The problem is the v6 doesn’t have enough torque and the R gear ratio is slightly higher than even 2nd forward gear! So yes, I’ve sadly had to switch to the 4 low when you get all this resistance in sand and need to reverse.

[@keithsnyder7903]

The noise in off road 2 mode is normal. In off road 2 mode the air bags are full and the noise they are hearing is the suspension fully extending quickly because of the air bags. The system just hasn’t had time to adjust itself yet.

[@805gregg]

You can ditch the whole Quadralift system for about $1500, and still have the limited slip differential, you can also add a lift kit to the Quadralift, up to 2" and still have the air suspension

[@ProdigalOverland]

which lift kit are you adding to the air suspension?

[@michaelhorn4540]

My 2011 limited has the rear limited slip differential and I'm so glad I don't have the air suspension. I'm installing a RC 2.5 inch lift kit on mine and will have a far better ride and articulation than if I had air suspension.

[@Quadrille763]

Do you think the stock rims will let your tires come loose when you air down? Have you considered bead lock rims?

[@ProdigalOverland]

We haven’t had a need for them. We have been as low as 14 psi in sand and were ok.

[@ek8652]

I air down to 14 and sometimes a little lower to drive up here on the beaches in the northeast and never had a problem on the stock rims.

[@rossmischnick]

the main thing snow mode is good for is city driving, getting moving from a stop. I believe it starts you in second gear to lower the torque.

[@jre617]

Thanks for the rundown. I haven't had much chance to use the different modes yet.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Sure thing!

[@johngittins6244]

Great and useful videos. Good presenting as well. Keep em coming 👍👍

[@shiftintohigh5564]

You mean Mingas Mt. in. Cottonwood. I watched that, good stuff. This is good intel. Oh gheezus, the 5.7 is an animal in the mud, huh??? Brad, nicely done here. Thanks! Waiting for mine to come in.👍👍😎🇺🇸 PS Laredo with AllWeather Trails pkg had ltd slip.

[@ProdigalOverland]

👍🏻

[@leost-pierre6254]

Hi Brad, I would like to hear from you; When does the ELSD engage. From my understanding, it engage only in Rock mode 4WDLO. May it be engage in others modes. Does it instantly lock or it engage on demand from a slippery condition. I would like to see a kind of tableau showing every mode with there differents settings as ELSD enabled, lock or N/A, ESP ON or OFF and any other parameter related to those mode

[@giralds2016]

My old 14 cherokee had the same system... i had nothing but good times in snow mode.. so many levels of antislip.... nothing is going to save you from bogging out in a hidden drop... 2 wranglers saved my bacon :) No, my 16 WK2 overland will get the beans this winter... still virgin.. i have work to do on it

[@Theclevy86]

I love your videos! I am thankful for all the information you give! It is very useful as I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee Laredo right now but plan on a Trailhawk next :)

[@ProdigalOverland]

That sounds great! Thanks for watching!

[@jorglange8161]

Thanks Brad, great video and well explained

[@ProdigalOverland]

Your welcome

[@wizwizwizbang]

Nice info Brad. Has anyone added an OEM elsd to the Quadra trak 2 later? If so whats needed, software upgrades etc? Or is adding an after market elsd with just a switch an easier way to go?

[@MrKozanitis]

Informative as usual! Another yet question for you: do you ever use and when the Sport mode and when do you turn the Eco mode off? I find that in Greece/Italy, in the tortuous mountain roads, I use the Sport mode for the fun of it, but even that very, very rarely. As for the Eco mode, I have yet to turn it off; with gas prices over there approaching US$ 7-8.00/gallon (I have converted from Euros and liters here), I see no reason to do that. What is your experience and usage here? BTW, if you use them how does this affect the use of the off-roading systems; if at all? Thanks!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks 😊

[@kayakgoalie]

Evan Hassiotis I hate Eco-mode. It shifts weird. I suppose if gas prices were super high, Id reconsider using it.

[@MrKozanitis]

kayakgoalie I honestly do not understand what you mean! I don't see any difference in either on or off...other than the revs go up (and, hence, gas consumption). BTW, I have a 2016 JGC Overland Trail Rated, and a 2020 JGC Trailhawk and have not noticed any "weirdness". .???

[@MrKozanitis]

Prodigal Overland Brad, can you comment/answer, please? (I guess you saw my initial comment without the questions that were edited in after your answer).

[@ProdigalOverland]

@@MrKozanitis I usually have eco mode on. If I feel sporty I use sport mode. But right now I prefer to save money where I can.

[@DerekGagiano]

Nice info tnx. On the reliability of the air suspension, it is very reliable. The issue is the air compressor. The pipe from the compressor that feeds the system, makes a very tight bend in the wheel arch. The compressor works too hard to get air past this and then fails. When you buy your jeep, modify this to a more straight setup. About $40 bucks, and myself and everyone I know, has never lost a compressor.

[@ek8652]

This is a very interesting observation your stating. I wanted the air suspension but didn’t get it because of the reliability issues I’ve heard and read about. You should post a video of your fix.

[@rossmischnick]

Which wheel well is it where you replaced the line?

[@DerekGagiano]

@@rossmischnick I am in south africa, so the model we get here, the line runs on the left side.

[@EngineerPrepper]

my 2012, I literally blew a hole out of my transfer case running 4lo coming down pikes peak, was going a little to fast (15-18mph).

[@ProdigalOverland]

That doesn't sound like a good day!

[@artbrookey3468]

I have a simple question. We have the 2015 Grand Cherokee V6. When driving on the interstate in winter, I can suddenly come up on snow...can I switch to snow mode on the fly, like at 40/50mph from auto mode, or should I stop to do it....you have to excuse me, my only 4x4 before was an old Dodge

[@ProdigalOverland]

You can do it on the fly. It doesn’t need to be in low gearing

[@priyampatel6873]

Can you do a video of how to actually shift into these modes because my grand Cherokee won’t shift into mud, sand, or rock

[@alihsas]

Thank you from KSA.

[@michaelhorn4540]

I have a really steep hill to go up and last week I had it in snow mode to go up in really deep snow, 18 inches. I didn't like the brakes being applied and I should have used sand mode and made it up easier

[@Winkmeister]

I thought it was Mud mode that was to be the alternate from Snow, which works best with dry, compactible snow, and then Mud when it is greasy/ wet melting point/ salted snow. Yes? Wouldn't Sand be too high-revving and at a disadvantage from the over-reactive throttle then??

[@Quadrille763]

Another excellent video

[@tonyjakotv]

I found that 4 low restricts you to 25mph/40kph, I Never had that in my ZJ...

[@tge96]

This is a great video! thank you very much, Brad! I have experimented with all various modes back-to-back in a short period, say 10 minutes total, and that seemed to overwhelm the quadra-lift system? Has anyone else experienced what they would consider overwhelming the various offroad systems in a short period of time?

[@rodgarrett32]

I'm getting bfgoodrich km3s on my stock jeep grand cherokee 2018 next week. What tour opinion?

[@chuckalbright708]

Do you know of any problems with the Quadra trac 2 system?

[@michaelhorn4540]

Sand mode works better with deep snow

[@DLIX2DCLI]

For 2015 jeep grand cherokee V6 , can we just turn the dial to the mode we need while parked or driving? There are snow and was wondering if we could just turn the dial to snow mode parked or driving. Thanks in advance!

[@danweekliesorama9995]

do u have any experience or input on the crawl mode in snow? i got stuck in a snow bank after a day of skiing last year in my 2015 limited with bald tires lol. i just got ko2s so im looking forward to seeing what my GC can do! thanks for ur vids btw

[@ProdigalOverland]

We actually haven't been buried in snow yet with out GC

[@danweekliesorama9995]

@@ProdigalOverland well goodluck if you do get buried, not that you'll need it!

[@Hallo.R.A]

Thanks for explanation but it was better to practice with the jeep at same time and explain each mode what it does do

[@miquelox]

When you mention All Wheel Drive and 4-High.. Are the same?... They are the default mode ?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yes same thing.

[@gady88]

Thanks for the great video

[@josiebauer468]

my jeep is stuck in low 4 wheel drive, I push the button and nothing happens how do i get it back to normal?

[@march966]

My quadra trac 2 only goes in 4wd only in rock mode that normal???

[@edgrigsby8610]

So does an Overland have an ELSD? or is it still an option, even with the Quadra lift?

[@ProdigalOverland]

They can be equipped with quadratic 2 or Quadra drive 2 (elsd)

[@jackalopefpv1708]

Do you have to be in 4 Low to use all those modes?

[@handgunNmore]

buying a 2019 grand cherokee limited with trail rated badge, quad drive ii, 4low, quadlift, skid polates etc ..... is this basically same as the trailhawk ?!

[@ProdigalOverland]

sounds like it is about the same

[@okandemir4732]

Hi bro, thanks for video, very useful. Just a quick question, I have grand charokee 2017 limited. Which mode shall l select for below drive? I am driving auto mode and using gear in Manuel, is it okay? Proper Asphalt road to mountain, around 30km climbing in mountain, road is asphalt.. road is 20 to 30 degrees high ... Please advice modes for climbing and driving down ? Thanks

[@ProdigalOverland]

I would just leave it in auto. And yes manual shifting to downshift on the way down.

[@okandemir4732]

Prodigal Overland thank you very much.

[@Andreyhappy74]

Спасибо 👏 THANK YOU. 🤝

[@jeffdouglass5107]

So, I just bought a 21 GC Summit, it has 20" Pirelli Scorpions on it, my question is what A/T tires are you guys running. I do have the quadra lift system.

[@ProdigalOverland]

We are running falken wildpeak at3 tires.

[@rossmischnick]

@@ProdigalOverland Just purchased the 31.5" wildpeaks per your suggestion. Absolutely love them, only downside is the spare doesnt really fit (height wise), even at 10 or so PSI the door is still slightly lifted. Not the end of the world though. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@2explore828]

You mention driving Munds Mountain in Arizona? Do I have proper spelling? Where is it?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yes Munds mountain trail near cottonwood az. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mV69nquhi5yMqsk

[@bearsj3]

is 4hi just pressing UP button all the way up?

[@Alboogie415]

Brad, you talked about getting the warranty to servicing the air bags if they ever go out... but wouldn’t they void your warranty by the look for your rig, not to mention the battle scars from a few trips?

[@gdwinco]

Everyone calls it an "Extended Warranty" but it is an "Extended Service Contract". Mileage may vary on how a dealer decides to allow coverage if you need it. If the plan is a "Mopar plan", my guess is the dealer service department gets paid for their costs so they will honor it. The clause "THE PLAN WILL NOT COVER, OR APPLY TO LOSS OR EXPENSE RESULTING FROM:", ... "Repairs do to any alterations or modifications to the Vehicle not approved or recommended by the manufacturer, including but not limited to: ... c)oversized/undersized tires, ..." hits many GC's. There are a number of other restrictions giving them the "option" to not cover the repair if there are any vehicle modifications. The QL, engine failure and Electronics are most likely to cost the most. If you have a QL, or buy used with miles > 50K or plan to run your vehicle over 100K miles, the ~$2600 insurance policy is worth considering. They do "advertise" the policy as "Cancelable" however I tried and 3 months after submitting my paperwork they had not even entered my request into the system to start the process (?another 120 days). My first Overland ran ~60K miles, no QL issues. This one has ~33K, no issues.

[@tge96]

@@gdwinco great feedback, thank you! I also have the extended service contract... dealer replaced lifters at 23k... I agree with you guys... it's worth it for us Trailhawk owners ;)

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[@DrivenHard]

Anyone from Vancouver Canada here??

[@ryanmoen6239]

I’m on Vancouver island. Close.

[@DrivenHard]

@@ryanmoen6239 ah cool man. what's your ride?

[@ryanmoen6239]

@@DrivenHard living the dream. 2020 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. @islandtrailhawk living the island life one adventure at a time.

[@duanelittle9107]

Do anyone know what mode to be in when driving on ice?

[@MsChristyMarie]

Snow mode

[@cirecast8177]

Have you ever used sport mode when off roading? Lol

[@oscarschmidlappen2302]

Good video . . . but please keep your hands down, and out of the camera view.

[@wtwoods6687]

You’ve been eating pizza again

[@stevenromero4422]

Anyone near Henderson NV, who would like to off-road overland?

[@strenshamstu]

Too much talk,let’s get to the jeeps.🙄

[@alanherrett7602]

Here's a guy that loves to hear himself talk. I want to see video examples, not your struggle for words.

[@elbadboy809]

thanks for all the tips, i really didn't know anything about it, good job

[@Lexuskiller]

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU OFF-ROAD IT WITHOUT THE LIFT AT ALL STOCK HEIGHT. BUT NOT TO SURE HOW MUCH THAT WILL LET YOU OFF-ROAD

[@ProdigalOverland]

The additional 2 inches you get with the Quadra Lift. Certainly helps us get to places we wouldn’t be able to without it.

[@Lexuskiller]

THE QUADRA TRAK 2 DOESNT HAVE ELECTRONIC SLIP DIFF DOES IT ?

[@ProdigalOverland]

That is correct