QNED Mini LED vs QD OLED Mismatch! | Similar Priced Technology

A look at the state of Mini LED TV vs QD-OLED TV in 2024 within the same price level, and a reminder that not all Mini LED TVs are the same. This is a comparison between LG QNED90T 65" and Samsung S90D OLED 55", before you say not fair theres a 77" QD-OLED I listed below for $100 more than 65" QNED 90T.
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[@TechWithKG]

I showed the QNED90T because of its price point but if you want to see how a Samsung or Hisense Mini LED would do I can do that comparison if you want? However please emember this about Mini LED while the LG QNED90T is not the best one to represent the technology, there are certainly TVs that have better contrast performance but none of them still come close to OLED contrast even ones with a ton of zones like the QN95C. My point of this entire video though stands for every single mini LED TV currently in stores not one of them comes close to a QD OLED or W-OLED with MLA in contrast and most scenes because of how local dimming currently works on these TVs end up with you having more HDR impact on the brighter modern OLED, some mini LED TVs might have higher brightness but again it’s only in very high APL scenes.

[@MaAm-zj6hx]

Would be great to compare oleds to qn900d, x955 or hisense UX

[@sj460162]

Yep. Oled is king. Is the motion better on oled KG? Strange thing on the QN95C..if I have judder and blur set to low it smooths out panning shots..but there can be frame stutters. And if I set motion to off the horizontal pan shots are juddery.

[@Swecan76]

I concur with you on many points. An OLED is superior as it requires "less" to be considered good or great. A miniLED, on the other hand, often has to work harder to achieve similar results. However, this doesn't imply that OLED always delivers a perfectly accurate image. Contrast is significant, but real-life visuals are not always about stark contrast. Therefore, an OLED's enhanced contrast in every scene doesn't necessarily equate to accuracy. For instance, the Sony Prototype displayed shadow details more effectively than the S95C OLED. This is because pure contrast alone cannot capture shadow detail; it's only a piece of the puzzle. Since very few things are truly pitch black, the ability to display low-nit shadows and gradients from grey to near-black, and ultimately to black, is crucial. While the S90D generally looked better, it too suffered from black crush or near-black crush in certain scenes. The QNED90T, however, is quite subpar. Imagine a QM8 2024 model with 5K nits and 5K zones; the differences in these images might suddenly become negligible. Yet, the QM8 might also experience some black crush. Unlike Sony miniLED, which tends to prioritize shadow detail over black crush-that's characteristic of Sony. They might fall short in some aspects, but excel in others. When you step outside on a sunny day and observe a field or cityscape, the contrast isn't as overpowering as one might think. Our eyes absorb so much light that contrast becomes less pronounced, which is why sunglasses, by filtering light, can enhance perceived contrast. I'm not disputing that OLEDs offer the best contrast-they certainly do. My point is that while OLEDs can maximize contrast when needed, it's worth questioning whether every scene requires such intensity. In most content, the difference would be negligible. Then it boils down to whether you're in a dark or lit room; in a well-lit environment, contrast differences are virtually indiscernible.

[@jiggerypokery2962]

I would like a comparison of the U8N vs the S90D or C4. Is there really a canyon of value between the two? Currently the U8K is about 40% cheaper than the S90C ($800 vs $1400). Not a lot of comparisons where one is obviously superior but cost a lot more. I'm right around the $1000 mark for a 55 inch TV so bumping up a several hundred is worry-some

[@ladylov3lace435]

Ok KG, I really want you to compare the Hisense U8H with the LG C3, since the U8H is brighter and has inky blacks for a LCD TV what I want to see is the inky blacks and brightness and color on both of these TV's in comparison and Thank You in advance if you make a video on both of these TV's.

[@enzopied3015]

While I agree QD-OLED is the best on the market right now, LG Minileds are absolutely not the comparison to make. They're by far the most trashy out of any of the minileds out there and could make almost any other miniled tv look good

[@charlesthornberg4087]

I currently have an 55Lg C9 with 16000 + hours still has a beautiful bright picture

[@ahmet_10]

Power saving mode?

[@naththoau]

Hows the DSE looking on new LG QNED to compare to old QNED90 has a lot of DSE?

[@lvproductionsinc9748]

I hope everyone keeps in mind that not all MINILED TVs are made alike or perform the same and this comparison could be very different depending on the TVs compared

[@TechWithKG]

Definitely and I pointed that out in the video, TVs with a much higher zone count will do much better however the outcome will still be similar.

[@JFLTX]

The S90D has a bit of black crush at 3:46. You can see that Z & O are barely visible compared to the mini led. But damn it was a dominant showing from the QD OLED. I'm surprised that the QNED had better shadow detail throughout. LGs processing advantage?

[@TechWithKG]

S90D maybe was crushing a tad bit but QNED was over brightening scenes too

[@__improwise__]

Thanks for another great video. While I agree with your findings in general, there is one big advantage to MiniLED that was not mentioned - work/productivity/desktop. I realize that this was more a TV review than a monitor review, but since many people use TVs as monitors these days, perhaps it should be mentioned. Some would probably mention burn in as well but personally I stopped worrying about that a few years ago.

[@jeffleigh3747]

There's only you, KG, doing these type of videos. Love them 👏👏

[@ployth9000]

any plans to compare the 2024 w-oled and qd oled monitors ?

[@mootsym]

While I see better contrast, I question if it would be the same as increasing the black levels on LED tvs.. and the S90D, in this side by side.. seems to lose some shadow detail. I like to see those details. So are both types of OLEDs simply crushing shadows and have that kind of light curve (idk the terms) that show more contrast without blowing out highlights? Or is the LED more balanced and true to life? This is of course disregarding scenes were pitch black (pixels off) is what the content intends. Also- is the color difference, the tint or whatever, just showing on camera, or is the led warmer?

[@TechWithKG]

It appears that in person the shadow detail is fine on the S90D maybe a slight crush but I also think that the QNED90T was over brightening PQ so it was hard to get a true read. Color difference is mostly how the TVs are captured on camera and the cameras white balance vs each TV.

[@bustercolin7507]

Led's have a hazy look to them, the contrast and depth on an oled just makes it better imo.

[@jaegerjaques7]

Is the asbl very noticeable in dark scenes on the s90d?

[@Whitewolf_1186]

Love seeing the S90D up against an LED display like this. I’m getting my 65 inch S90D tomorrow, upgrading from a Hisense U7G, and this gets me even more excited to see the massive difference in person 😍😍

[@barryjones2366]

Is there a setting on the LG to reduce mid-tones like ST.2084 on a Samsung QN series? I have a QN90B and if I use ST.2084 -3 it reduces mid-tones and gives me a pretty much OLED like picture, colours and contrast are almost a match to my phones OLED, it just has brighter highlights on the OLED when I test youtube HDR channel, 4K Clips and Trailers. It's very very close for image quality so can be adjusted especially if it's over brightened like it is here. 😀 And yes, I would like to see a better Samsung S90D vs QN90D series comparison.

[@Sebastian4216663]

Burn in will happen eventually on OLED, it's not about "if" it's more about "when"

[@Ashtyr]

Who cares about LG in miniled? Sony or hisense/tcl. Samsung has had the same TV for 4 years, with zero improvements, and minimal effort, LG never cared about LED TVs since it had OLEDs, releasing mediocre TVs year after year

[@CaptainScorpio24]

hows the life of lg oled vs lg mini led

[@DK-iy1wf]

My cx still going strong 💪

[@CaptainScorpio24]

bcz in mini led you can get max size with more than 90% quality.

[@Ashtyr]

@@CaptainScorpio24 Much more than 90%, if it is a Sony like the x95L, we will see the new model with the new system, but LG's LEDs are mediocre, they already look bad compared to other minileds, imagine facing a qdoled

[@TheNickoslicK]

What about the longevity of OLED with it being organic based, 5-10 years down the line I’d be interested to see the difference then? I have the first Samsung Qled the 2018 Q9FN, it’s still looks great and the HDR performance is still very good.

[@vincentroy5093]

I’ve had a LG B8 oled for 5 years running hours every day. Still as good as day one. It’s not a concern.

[@mootsym]

@@vincentroy5093the B8 is Woled and not qd

[@TechWithKG]

If your TV is issue free in 5 years with any modern display regardless of type you were blessed by the electronics higher power.

[@TheNickoslicK]

@@TechWithKG😂 I guess

[@nicofodderie4917]

I also have the 2018 65Q9FN. Still loving the HDR and color performance. Still running smoothless. But looking upgrade later this year to 77 S95D or 75 QN95C.

[@hdlowrider1903]

Love OLED! Got my A80L free months ago. Amazing TV. Thanks for the videos. I used your video on that TV to guide me through the set up and settings

[@sanonmars]

Did you chose over S90c and C3?

[@hdlowrider1903]

@@sanonmars yes. I really only get Sony and a big reason why is their processors in their TVs. Y really are rbest in that area. Also the A80L new acoustic audio + is the best sounding TV and tech that I've heard in a TV. I would never buy a Samsung. I would get an LG, I just happen to like Sony more

[@woofinu]

Thanks for a very useful video. Aside from brightness and contrast, there is also the question of "true black", and I think that is something many can tell without a side-by-side TV comparison. With OLED, black is black and not dark gray or dark brown. To your knowledge, is there any top-of-the-line mini LED of any brand that achieved true black?

[@TechWithKG]

A lot of mini led TVs on their own can achieve close to it, but it’s the deep contrast level in details that self emissive displays like an OLED can only give you.

[@woofinu]

@@TechWithKG Thanks. I don't look at TVs as critically as you do, but I think most know "true black" when they see it, and if it's missing, they know it too. At the price level of OLED and mini LED, I don't want to get something where even I can see a difference.

[@davideowatching]

@@woofinu I have the 65" QN95C, and couldn't really tell the difference between my LG C2 in terms of black. The difference is quite subtle. But i think you still get a lot more details with oled since each pixel is self emisive.

[@woofinu]

@@davideowatching The mini-LED TVs I have seen (I don't recall the model numbers but they were Samsung Neo TVs) all had very very very dark gray, but not black. I'll have to check the QN95C next time.

[@nicofodderie4917]

The only thing that's holding me back to buy an oled around black friday is the longlivity of QD oled. Our TV is on for at least 7 hours a day. I buy a new TV around 6 to 7 years. Glare was the second reason, but the S95D could resolve that problem. The 75 QN95D is the other contender for neo Qled.

[@A_Burly_Gnoll]

Well qd-oled are stuck right now at 77 and I hear 83 oleds have vertical banding and DSE. I might end up giving up on my idea of going 85 this gen.

[@tbecket4890]

Qd Oled…..Samsung vs Sony? We need more competitors.

[@mirkomilicic7898]

Sony is the best

[@markchristantaguiam819]

The QNED seems to have a yellow-greenish panel compared to a TCL QD Mini-Led. The TCL C805K if tuned right will have a good picture quality, nearly OLED with 1300nits of brightness.

[@fab9223]

KG on this very subject, how would you say they compare with WOLED? I’m between an 85” X95L and an 83” A80L. Its for a bright family room BUT, I watch about 70% of my TV at night. I was leaning towards the X95L. Opinions?

[@TechWithKG]

I would easily go 83” A80L here. As long as you’re trying to watch darker shows in the daytime you probably won’t have an issue.

[@bguerre1ro]

Thanks for the very informative video but a comparison between the LG G4, Samsung S90/5D and the Samsung QN90/5D would have perhaps been a better choice.

[@michigan1777]

My issue with OLED, especially in the Sony camp, is the brightness isnt sustained in sdr when watching sports or playing games with menus on the screen. I'm ready to see the new mini led from sony

[@deepanmurugan467]

I have always found the picture on an OLED to be somewhat artificial looking, like processed. Similar to how a good projected image is > a TV image, i feel a good local dimming Mini-LED TVs image > OLED image. Also QD Oled > Wrgb Oled. I just can't stand the tint on certain colours in the Wrgb Oled, sadly i can spot the tinting even when it's not a side by side.

[@sj460162]

Great video KG. Makes me wonder why the hell I bought the QN95C!!?? I would like to upgrade in a few years KG and will buy a qd oled. By then the tech will be even more advanced. I am a worrier...burn in still worrys me even though it shouldnt, its not just me in the house, I have young kids and the tv is left on pause a lot! I also have a very bright front room and am a huge fan of gaming brightness. You showed a video once KG comparing mini led and oled on an ice hockey game and the mini led nailed it and that helped me a lot. Also you said sdr is brighter on led which appealed to me as most of what I watch is sdr. But I will buy an oled and thenfinally I will see what allthe fuss is about with my own eyes...and I think I will be impressed!!

[@Swecan76]

SDR isn't brighter on an OLED. That depends fully on how you present the image in settings. It doesn't follow any standards like HDR does. A MiniLED of higher end can push a white 100% window "sustained" at anything from 700-1,000 nits. An OLED can hit 300 nits as in the best one. The other windows just get higher on a miniLED. So if you crank the settings that is what the TV will show. HDR is a whole different story in how they are "mastered" most scenes are low nits as in 100-400 nits. Then the specular highlights flash on screen at high nits. OLED excel at that. But newer MiniLED might have caught up again now. We don't know until shown. But there is zero question that a miniLED with a base capability of pushing 600 nits or higher in SDR will be brighter. But you also don't sit and watch sports in filmmaker mode.

[@sj460162]

Thanks bud

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for sharing

[@Dreamer5211]

WOW == thank you . I never knew that OLEDs even quantum dot panel could get that bright and that clear. What I noticed was the motion blur on the LG compared to the S90D . Not only is the S90D brighter , it is way smoother . I can`t go bigger than 55" so maybe I should look very hard at the S90D. Can you please post if this 55" S90D has a 3.5 mm analog audio out -- it is located to the right of the regular I/O's , thanks. Dreamer 

[@TechWithKG]

there is not a 3.5mm headphone jack but there is a line out, if you put headphones in this you won't get sound.

[@Dreamer5211]

@@TechWithKG Thank you , actually that is the answer I was looking for 👍 Oddly , I have a pair of Fluance A41i powered speakers that seem to work slightly better when connected with an analog signal rather than optical . Perfect !! >> Thanks again , Dreamer 

[@truthx7]

Don't know if it's the camera KG but the motion blur/smearing on the qned90t is really bad compared the the oled

[@user-oq4rm5ci9p]

I prefer MiniLED because of 2 reasons: - I use my TV as a monitor for PC. I don't want to babysit with OLED and fear to get burn-in - Price/quality ratio. I bought Hisense 85U7K for 1400 dollars. Absolutely incredible

[@TechWithKG]

That’s fair, but I use an OLED as a monitor on both computers i use I don’t babysit it I just hide the taskbar to hover only plus don’t use desktop icons 0 issues

[@user-oq4rm5ci9p]

@@TechWithKG Common. To hide taskbar and don't use icons it's already babysitting :). And more other things. I don't like it

[@tonajki]

@@TechWithKGthis sounds like you’re serving technology and not technology serving you. I like OLED picture quality too, but I just can’t justify the risk, as it is very common for me to just pause stuff and forget about it for hours.

[@rodolfobarbosa2778]

WRGB OLED panels can have nasty banding. My 65 G3 have. For me, this is way worse than the risk of burn in. But the contrast is incredible. You can't go back to led tvs

[@Icipher4]

Solid video comparison. The OLED looks much better. I wonder if other LEDs coming this year might do better. Aren't the higher end TCL and Hisense supposedly amazing for contrast?

[@craighopkins4496]

Yea they come close but not like a self emissive display with micro contrast

[@Swecan76]

Of course they will do better. This MiniLED in this video is about as bas as you can get for MiniLED. It's not a fair comparison.

[@TechWithKG]

It’s not meant to be fair it can’t be the tech just isn’t as good other mini LED TVs can do better but not much better nothing released is coming close to QD OLED at the moment. I showed the QN90C vs S90C last year S90C won big time in my eyes.

[@NexGenTek]

No one seems to Know that if you get the S90D from Costco you get a 60W channel instead of 40W and also you get a better OTS option and the biggest difference you get Auto HDR Remastering and that’s HUGE! Neither the S90D or S95D has that option from any other retailer!

[@fullhd5277]

Of course agree with , everything looked better on the right ,, even dimensions of the image .

[@spyplane3979]

when are we gonna get a brightness demo with qn90d vs s90d

[@TechWithKG]

Classy did this S90D was just as bright or brighter in most scenes outside of really high APL scenes.

[@charlesmyers8150]

You answered my curiosity about the LG QNED 90T. I still like my Samsung q90t and my s90c. Nice video KG, The s90d looked great. I want to get a good 55in miniled for my bedroom, can you recommend a good one . Thanks.

[@TechWithKG]

Not in 55”. I’d go S90C if you are on a tighter budget though where you can’t reach OLED I like the Hisense U8K I’d try for that one.

[@charlesmyers8150]

@@TechWithKG Thanks. I look at the U8k and waffle on it. I saw it at best buy for $649 at 55in. Months ago, Now it goes back and forth from $749 to $799. Everybody says it's good, but I wonder about the processing. I have the 55in s90c in my bedroom, but I want a miniled to just use during the morning and as a laptop monitor. I like that the u8k has hdr10+ and dolby vision but are they accurate and? And a headphone jack, Is it really a great tv or just ok?

[@oilerguy5494]

The price of the Qned 90T is $1800 usd for a 65 inch? 😭

[@MM-Official]

Good topic KG, but i agree with some people, burn in still an issue tbh

[@dante19890]

not really the new panels. They are being used as computer moniotors even.

[@MM-Official]

@@dante19890 ok but for how many years before getting burn in and lot of dead pixels in even worse scenario ? it's an horrible stuff for such pricey TV i mean

[@dante19890]

@MM-Official you are more likely to don't get burn in if you vary your content I have had my oled as a pc monitor for 3 years (the worst possible scenario for oled ) and no burn in yet. The newer qd oleds are even more resilient to burn in

[@MM-Official]

@@dante19890 Glad to hear your experience, very comforting

[@gwac1963]

G3 S95C A95L change the game, big 3 make oled TV brightness enough.If you watch a HLG HDR video, miniled can as bright as oled TV(Big 3), but pq hdr video, OLED(big 3) always brighter than miniled ,because pq hdr black level is very low, can 0.0001, miniled need contorl the black level and sacrifice the brightness.Forget the miniled TV, buy a 2023 or 2024 flagship oled, you will get all you want.

[@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686]

Where are you at right now with the question i'm about to ask.. If it were you're own money, and you had to buy one, are you getting the S95D or the 90D?

[@TechWithKG]

S90C or if 77” S89C if I’m buying now if I’m buying later during BF I’d go S90D. But I haven’t seen S95D next to S90D yet so I might change my opinion after that.

[@18matts]

If you look at rtings s95c longevity test, burn in is a non-issue for qdoled. Qdoled is the way😊

[@Swecan76]

You can't call it a non-issue, it hasn't ran long enough to show either way. Also I don't see any photos anymore on Rtings of what the TVs look like. Just graphs of brightness over time. I wonder why that changed.

[@18matts]

@Swecan76 it is definitely a non issue. You haven't even looked at the tests

[@18matts]

@@Swecan76 the longevity test is still there

[@Swecan76]

@@18matts I don't see the photos anymore if I select a TV review and go to section where they talk about it. There is no photo updates, at least that I can find.

[@18matts]

@@Swecan76 the section is at the beginning of the scroll

[@JFLTX]

Props KG for the different comparisons you were using! It showed off the colors and contrast. It was a nice change from Spears and Munsil.

[@TechWithKG]

Thanks. When I can I will try to switch things up. If people don’t mind still images I can show movies.

[@the_guganez]

QD-OLED está incrível!

[@Marco-em2in]

I know you are a OLED fan but the QLED was looking pretty good. So much that I was liking the QLED more and I own an S90c. Yes you may get better contrast with the Oled and colors but the QLED is good enough to not care. And the extra brightness plus the comparable black levels make it the best of both worlds. Oled better watch out if it can’t get brighter it’s going the way of the plasma.

[@TechWithKG]

The thing is what you perceive as extra brightness was just a lack of contrast as most of the scenes I showed they were so close in brightness, QD OLED is very bright and I think of everyone got to see one next to a LED TV they’d have a change of heart from LCD the difference is just too clear.

[@Heimkineast]

QD Oled is still extremely size-limited. There isn't even a 85 inch version and if there was I doubt it would be competitive enough

[@dwight2310]

dont sleep on the G4 in 83" with MLA.

[@Icipher4]

@@dwight2310 yeah but the cost of that thing would make me lose sleep lol.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah I talked about 85” and larger I think it’s currently why I’d still consider an LED TV.

[@ahmet_10]

Are you living at palace?

[@curtis19921]

I think people want a tv that can last at least 10 years never had an oled tv so not sure how long it would last

[@topandrun126]

Thanks for making this video helps me to decide what technology I'm going with

[@SDGRTX1455]

Will Sony upcoming mini led be the game changer that we all be hoping/waiting for? That mini led kinda looks like mid-tier. Oled contrast is still something else ❤

[@TechWithKG]

It’s impressive and if it can do 4000 nits peak highlights with minimal downsides it could be a promising change for mini led but I don’t think we will ever see any match a self emissive display in content

[@kclaytree2734]

@TechWithKG....remember Sony chose mini led for its reference monitor. If they thought QD-OLED (even PHOLED on the horizon was viable) could meet engineering goals for a $30K ref monitor they would have used it. There also will be improvements on Sony's new miniLED since you saw the prototype.

[@dante19890]

Ye , no reason to go with lcd when qd oled exist

[@LarryPutski]

You sold me and I don't even watch TV where can I find this OLED TV forget surfing on the outdoors I want an OLED TV

[@mikejohnson8391]

personally like Samsung QN900D 8k tv which comes in variety of sizes as small as 65 and as big as 85 inch unit and comes in 75 inch unit. only problem with Samsung they will not support Dolby vision tech. because they don't want pay for licensing fee dolby industries want them to pay. is why all tv's from them use HDR TECH. with atmos audio tech.

[@nathanmeduri5781]

Qd mini oled tv anyone?

[@kpv123]

Your entire test is invalid. You can't test two different sized TVs because the pixel density is tremendously different, and then you go and make comments on the contrast! Seriously? My local Best Buy had two of Sony's best tvs, one OLED, the other mini LED side by side, same size screens. The mini LED looked a lot brighter and was easily the superior TV.

[@NexGenTek]

Size isn’t going to make a huge difference on a KZbin video where you can’t see the pixels anyway for the most part the test is very valid

[@cybererik1]

If brightness is important to get it for that but the OLED's will always have better picture quality. Every single time.

[@kclaytree2734]

You can't validly compare 2 TVs side by side in BestBuy....in retail mode. Ugh!!!

[@JarredHumphries-vh3ps]

If true; the right one is better to my amateur eye.

[@tonyb3350]

Let's see some better mini led's

[@TechWithKG]

There’s not one currently released that is better than these modern high brightness OLED TVs

[@kclaytree2734]

Wait for Sony XR90

[@jonathanparle8429]

I would LOVE and OLED. I really would. And I am enormously frustrated that I cannot get one because ALL my content is either 4:3 or 1.85:1 to 2.4:1. I don't even care that it would last only about 6 years of my viewing (were I watching 16:9 content) before the picture quality would be below par. But the problem is no OLED TV maker (or panel maker to be precise) has still solved the problem of screen degradation for those of us who watch 100% of their content at aspect ratios other than 16:9. To be honest, I do not know why OLED TV makers do not have an option, for example, when watching content with black bars left and right to have those black bars filled with the blurred background of the edges of the (usually 4:3) image. I know you can do that in an editor but you are going to have to edit every single video you own and you are going to lose picture quality because you have to re-render even if you are working with ProRes during the editing stage. There is more than enough processing power these days in a premium Smart TV to do this in real time.

[@trippplefive]

revisit this with a sony or samsung miniled… we already know lg sucks when it comes to lcd tvs

[@TechWithKG]

Results aren’t as bad but they are similar I did it last year if people want I’ll show it again. Unless you need 85” + I don’t see much reason to buy mini led if you’re in the budget of OLED.

[@user-pi7rm7tv6s]

@@TechWithKG Олед горят на статике! На них только фильмы в 4к хорошо и надежно смотреть ! А мини лед для всего и долговечный!

[@hammerjoe2008]

Or we wait for tcl or hisense that are just around the corner and see how they perform. Their mini led beats samsung out of the park anyday.

[@DaddySizeIt]

thought about buying a Hisense but if you dig for owners, way too many say they failed early. TCL is the same. Both Chinese crap. I'm dropping the extra coin for Sony.

[@BucephalusHume]

This got me curious. So I decided to test my qn90b in these scenes. It definitely looks more like the mini-led (no surprise). However, by reducing shadow detail in the picture settings I was able to get it much closer to the OLED look with no noticeable loss in dark details. Of course, the infinite contrast of OLED is still obviously not replicable. This was especially obvious in the willy wonka balloon scene. However, I also noticed in your comparison that the OLED was lacking some detail in the background, particularly the front windows of building on the left and the trees behind it. (Maybe these details aren't lost in person though, could be a result of the video) Would be interesting to see you test this yourself.

[@TechWithKG]

QN90B has a lifted EOTF so scenes can actually be brighter than intended leading you to see more into the shadows but as a result of that you have a more lifted look so keep that in mind you dropping shadow detail on that TV makes a lot of sense. S90D here in my comparison may be slightly crushed at times but my cameras exposure may have also been too low.

[@Animejook]

tcl makes the best miniled tvs tho. so does hisense. lgs' jus the wrong brand to compare with

[@AntrAcsA]

LG have the worst miniLED TVs on marker ! They promise a lot this year but i don't see this huge improvements. If you put U8K next to this S90D will look way better that QNED90.

[@TechWithKG]

I have the U8K results are pretty similar there’s a little deeper contrast on the U8K than the QNED90 but not much more.

[@AntrAcsA]

@@TechWithKG Ok

[@biber9979]

So S90D didn't get any brightest boost...so its the same thing like tv from 2 years ago S95b. It is so sad that customers of all tvs get 0 improvements expect those who buy most expensive models. Shame on you Samsung, Lg...

[@Swecan76]

To be fair. You're using a really bad MiniLED as the comparison here and let it stand as "this is how MiniLED looks like". That isn't correct. There are far better looking and much better contrast on high end MiniLED TVs and this year we haven't even see what they can do. 4:30 This is a QNED90T with a few hundred dimming zones, pretty poor TV. You will not see the same on better MiniLEDs. So sorry it's misleading to say "this is what it is between miniled and OLED". You cannot use one TV to explain all miniLED TVs. I hope you will redo these comparisons with better miniLED TVs.

[@torqpoc2543]

This comparison is terrible. Compare a QN90D or QN900D, or top end TCL or Hisense - not a terrible LG mini led

[@TechWithKG]

I will but let’s not pretend that the results won’t be similar Classy just compared s90d to QN90D with similar results both use VA panels.

[@sandelemental6502]

Clarity on OLEDs blow LEDs out of the water. No contest. It's always so readily apparent how just hazy non-OLEDs look in comparison.

[@wopino]

I'm scratching my head too, not to mention the garbage motion on any LED TV. OLED is the way to go these days until microLED comes into play in normal sizes..

[@Sejuani89]

LG is the worst brand to represent mini-LED. They may be topnotch in OLED space but their mini-LED are not the best!

[@DaddySizeIt]

ya it's true. I like LG products but their LCD lineup is easily beat. Better off with a Sony LCD or even Samsung.

[@kclaytree2734]

Agree

[@mohrezrouhi224]

qned90t has a lot of color error.

[@novusparadium9430]

How the fuck is my 2012 Sony Bravia with over 70k hours on time better picture than this shit on the market today???? has tech regressed a bit? I dont even have any burn in on the goddamn thing.

[@westyk52sparky]

(WARNING DONT BUY A QD OLED) I HAVE 2 BROKEN S95B 55INC TVS. ONE WITH A BIG MULITCOLORED PATCH THE OTHER IN A BOOT LOOP. ONLY 1 YAER 4 MONTHS OLD. SAMSUNG WILL NOT HELP ME. ITS OK IF YOUR A KZbinR AS THEY WILL HELP YOU. £3000 DOWN THE DRAIN. NOW IM STUCK USING MY OLD Q80T. I HAVE NEVER HAD A TV BRACK ON ME BEFORE.

[@DaddySizeIt]

This is good. I'm someone who has been leaning LCD over OLED. I'm buying either the X90L 55" (or 2024 replacement for it) or the S90D 55". I am sick of my Samsung PN50B650 from '09 that's finally failing on me, being wiped out when the windows are open. I also see image retention and have for years now. No actual hard burn in. If I run the screen cleaner anything goes away. So I wouldn't be too worried about OLED burn-in. For me the bright living room is the real problem with OLED (and us old heads with plasmas still). But the biggest reason I'm leaning LCD is because general image quality of LCD TVs like the X90L and X95L are really not that far off OLED. OLED is better, but I'm not sure it's the gap that existed in 2009 when I picked plasma over LCD then. They've gotten really good, just go look at the Sony stuff as they do everything right.

[@truthx7]

The x90L is one of the worst mini led TV's when it comes to contrast and black levels.its processor helps with clarity but that TV is nowhere near OLED in image quality

[@DaddySizeIt]

@@truthx7depends how picky you are. Go to the store and look at the X90L and S90C. The contrast is worse, but the image quality on the X90L is not that far off otherwise from OLED. If you're pixel-peeping, sure. But acting like a normal person and looking at them, they're both really good TVs.