Mastering Vinyl with Geoff Pesche at Abbey Road Studios

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Early Beginnings
31:45 - The Vinyl Cutting Process
50:28 - Gear Tour

[@Producelikeapro]

What gear (software or hardware) are you using for mastering?

[@soundengineeringstudy]

Ozone 10, UAD, BX_Digital (plugin alliance), Chandler EQ, fab L2

[@rumginray]

OZ9 (love their vintage limiter), Shadow Hills beautiful Mastering comp, Waves: PuigTec EQs, Kramer Tape, MV2, and occasionally their TG mastering Plug in. Don't like to mess with multiband comps much since a lot of the best records made didn't really use them.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@soundengineeringstudythanks ever so much for sharing

[@Producelikeapro]

@@rumginraymarvellous

[@Weissman111]

Mainly the Ozone 10 but I have the Abbey Road Waves TG if I want to give mixes a more analogue sound.

[@guitboxgeek]

"I'm not a musician, but I'm musical" 🤘What a cool dude.

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely!

[@bugmanuk]

When he said heavy metal label from Newcastle I immediately thought of Neat Records who had A massive roater if heavy metal acts back in the day. I would go on to record all my demos years later in their abandoned space and came across so much amazing history, demo tapes, press releases all abandoned practically. They were huge for the area and spawned everyone from Venom to The Toy Dolls. Thanks Warren for another great video

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for sharing. Sounds like an amazing experience

[@ChiefMiddleFinger]

Geoff’s intensity and no BS approach is very refreshing. There’s something special about listening to music on vinyl.

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed!

[@rjerecords]

Definitely!

[@TheMentalblockrock]

A well pressed record on a good system sounds better than CD.

[@williambenson]

I dated Geoff's sister back in the 80's. He was exactly the same then. It was always a joy to be in his company.

[@K-ThORNz__is__Keith_Thorning]

hi warren, i love how you and geoff both express the importance of making new artists feel comfortable when you work with them, a producer/engineer with a warm approach will always get better performances with inexpensive equipment over one who has all the expensive kit but a nonchalant and cold attitude during recording.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for your wonderful comment

[@Joey-rp5vg]

Geoff is a diamond geezer for sure. Great interview and great insight. Thanks very much

[@Producelikeapro]

Our pleasure!

[@roberttomassetti4642]

I really enjoyed our visit with Geoff! Thank you for your fine job on every, visit and interview. You do an excellent, job!

[@Frankyandhisguitar]

That Geoff seems to be one of the coolest dudes and made watching this so good. Great episode!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! And, agreed 100%!

[@promixacademy6904]

Such a pleasure to hear Geoff speak

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! It certainly was

[@lancasteraudio5281]

This is one of the best interview I've ever seen with a Mastering Engineer!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@spitfiremusic3997]

Geoff is a huge talent and a lovely fellow! Wonderful discussion!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@lmc48]

Geoff the Legend.What a good insight into the workings of Vinyl and Mastering.Was so refreshed watching the Video.Craft is Craft!

[@Producelikeapro]

Huge legend and wonderful guy indeed

[@timbrown7652]

Absolute gem of an interview

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@kevjak51]

Jeff's a legend, great to learn about the cutting system , thank you Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for watching!

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Geoff thank YOU! Wonderful insight into Mastering and cutting Vinyl at Abbey Road

[@Producelikeapro]

Geoff rules!!

[@thesongacademy5017]

Geoff is a true Gent

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes he certainly is

[@officialsimonharris]

Geoff is a great guy, I used to attend his cuts that he did for me at Tape One. I remember George Michael sitting in the lobby waiting to do the same thing.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for sharing that!!

[@plapclips6799]

Geoff thank YOU!

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! Thanks Geoff

[@matiasbarrios9365]

"But you could be in .... Montevideo" 26:50 🤣🤣🤣 Greetings from Montevideo! Thank you Warren, awesome job!

[@Producelikeapro]

Greetings!

[@MusicTherapyLaz]

Awesome video... loved listening to the stories and the mastering talk... as well as the Turntable Talk! I've got different weights for mine... it totally depends on the thickness and quality of the vinyl!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@thestevenjaywaymusic7775]

What an interesting man. I love the No BS straightforwardness. Great interview. Thoroughly enjoyable.

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely! I agree 109%!

[@redbigapplefloppa302]

I love those videos. It's like a deep dive into a hidden world with geoff as the guide. Exciting yet very calming. Great stuff!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you so much

[@realraven2000]

A friend of mine had a Thorens deck it was lovely. I myself am a Dual man, ultra low mass tone arms a bit iffy for subsonics but great fir mid and high end.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@realraven2000marvellous! Thanks for sharing

[@super8freddie]

It's great to see and listen to a person like Geoff Pesche talk about his beautiful work

[@ShiningHourPop]

That was fascinating. People like Geoff and his skills are a treasure.

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely!! Thanks ever so much

[@captaindebug]

Something I'm never, ever likely to do... but so interesting to watch.

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@DerekBolli]

"Neumann: German Swiss precision" said completely deadpan. Love it 🤩 Great interview, Warren 👍

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha love it

[@andreirlmeier]

ohhh yes !

[@Producelikeapro]

@@andreirlmeierhaha exactly

[@analoguecity3454]

My second comment. I love seeing and learning about analogue stuff. Glad i found yer channel 😊.

[@Producelikeapro]

Awesome! Thank you!🙏

[@davidherbert9601]

I love his humour. Especially when Bob Ludwig was mentioned. Great more work for me !

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it! Geoff rules!!

[@taloowa5800]

Muth Audio Design! Sontec, mostly, my equipment is home built. The same gear I built for Sterling Sound. I have loads of Neumann cutting gear parts also if that VMS-80 ever gives you trouble. Chris Muth. Nice interview!

[@DRChevalier]

Hey Warren, just a quick compliment on the excellent video. Gear is great, but humans matter. I really enjoyed learning from Geoff and have great respect that he knows what he knows and stands by his positions. Not every player might want Geoff to do their mastering because he stands for what he knows, but the smart ones would. Plus I really was enthused by his plug for the Thorens table. I still have mine and it works a charm. Not the only turntable that I have ever owned, but certainly the best.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!

[@rumginray]

What a wonderful experience. Thanks Warren. I guess Abbey Road has somewhat of a reputation for hiring teenagers.

[@Producelikeapro]

More about that soon! We have a lot of content coming. Thanks for watching

[@marcdanielnelson317]

Excellent, Excellent, Excellent!

[@Producelikeapro]

Agreed 100%!

[@AKAtAGG]

What a legend this fella is. One of the literal GOATS.

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely! Glad to share with you. More to come!

[@AKAtAGG]

@@Producelikeapro So good to listen to Geoff talk. His level of knowledge is insane, and he is so humble and thoughtful. Brilliant work as usual.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@AKAtAGGthanks ever so much! Yes, Geoff is amazing

[@mannysmiclocker]

I was there and loved every minute Mastering w/ Steve Rooke🎉

[@Producelikeapro]

Amazing Manny!

[@gytrplr]

Amazing insight like his no frills approach to the gig

[@Producelikeapro]

Agreed 100%!

[@paullawson8610]

Geoff down to earth chap no bs I started as dj still got most of vinyl and my technics 1210s and yes I've got a penny on the cartridge head😅 cheers Warren great interview and very informative

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for sharing! Haha penny on the cartridge head!

[@Projacked1]

My brain just blew up a bit more; one of your most coolest interviews ever Warren! wow And Geoff is funny! hahaaha

[@Producelikeapro]

Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much

[@followthebeat66]

".... boring but not boring." Every time I open my Taperecorder for service. Cool content!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it. Geoff rules

[@briankellymusician]

A fantastic interview Warren thank you so much for sharing 👍

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@andreirlmeier]

the 2nd part is awesome!!!!! thnx warren !!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you liked it!

[@khaz606]

This may not get as many views as most of the vids in this channel, but I for one have always been fasinated by whole process of putting out a record. I made a point of seeing vinyl mastering done the first chance I could. I great to see, in detail, how it's done a Abbey Road. Would be great if you could interview Ken Townsend. Thanks very much.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for the wonderful comment! I really appreciate it

[@khaz606]

@@Producelikeapro You're welcome. I just re-read it. Apologies for the grammar :). I'm glad it was understood.

[@Producelikeapro]

we've all been there! It's ok!@@khaz606

[@RC32Smiths01]

Gotta extremely love it when it goes to Abbey Road! Cheers guys

[@Producelikeapro]

More to come! Thanks for watching

[@RC32Smiths01]

@@Producelikeapro That's fantastic to hear in the future. Always a pleaure to watch!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@RC32Smiths01thanks for your amazing support

[@Martronicus]

46:37 - "It's all too geeky" NO! WE WANT THE GEEKY!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha yes! Indeed

[@erikleenhouts834]

Great, just great. Love it! Thanks so much for this 👍🙏

[@metalman3227]

Superb interview

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@jonathanreddish8590]

excellent interview!! keep them coming please!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@mrvron]

This is absolutely amazing to watch

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you so much! More to come!

[@1loveMusic2003]

Geoff is a sharp cookie.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! He certainly is

[@chizzulwinduh1941]

Wow, that was a good one. Geoff's the man!

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! He certainly is

[@paulmanningremixes6408]

I’ve often wondered if any company would be invested enough, and brave/confident enough to design and build a brand new, modern cutting lathe, or is the idea just not quite workable, even with the current reinvigorated vinyl market? Those Neumann lathes beggar belief, especially as Geoff says, when you consider their age at this point. They’re like the Concord of the vinyl world, old, but unsurpassed. I’ve watched a few videos with Geoff, but this longer entry is most appreciated, thanks Warren and Geoff, such a enjoyable and fascinating watch 👍🏻

[@Producelikeapro]

I would imagine a large would be so expensive to build, would that be far more than used ones? It always comes down to supply and demand

[@mickheenan]

Another outstanding piece of journalism Warren! In answer to your question, I currently use the Waves Abby Road bundle for my mastering (rudamentary as it is), and final tweaks with Ozone 9. KRK grp 8s + S10 sub + Sonarworks reference for monitoring. Mix checking in cans with Beyerdynamic Studio custom 1's. Always looking to improve as my budget allows. And, can I just add, it was like watching the closing scenes of "The Champ", when Geoff said there are no spares for the lathe, proper heartbreaking 😢.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you so much for sharing!

[@joemeyer6876]

I really enjoyed this, learned a lot, it was riveting!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@AndyA1234]

Funnily enough I just watched a programme yesterday "Made in Britain" which showed you how the Linn LP12 turntable is made across in Glasgow. ( I'm in Edinburgh) Fantastic interview.

[@Producelikeapro]

That's amazing! I'm going to check them out, thank you

[@derkultvontrump4321]

If you fancy a fun interview Warren, interview John Davis. Love Geoff cause we did a Rifles album, but John always cracks me up 😂

[@derkultvontrump4321]

He works at Metropolis

[@dashradio1]

Thanks for the video I want to take a trip to England to see Abby road studio..very soon

[@Producelikeapro]

Please do!

[@19bm77]

great video love it

[@K-ThORNz__is__Keith_Thorning]

i so thoroughly enjoyed this episode, it reminded me of a time i was watching a 12'' of mine being cut and without checking i pulled out my camera and took a photo of the lathe with the flash on, the engineer then said ''well if you hear a pop on the song it was that '' rather snooty, oops! i'm glad geoff wasn't cutting it as he may have chinned me :)

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha I’m sure Geoff would have been honest about it!

[@K-ThORNz__is__Keith_Thorning]

@@Producelikeapro 😊 the best way, for sure! i have always found cutting engineers to be very open to talk about the process to newbies, and i've never encountered one that didn't show 'professional' enthusiasm in mastering music i have presented, even if it wasn't 'up there street' Ha ha. i like playing with mastering my own music, but i dont think i would have what it takes to do that job, like geoff said, you have to be a real fan of music to be good at that job

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely! It's an art and those that know it well love sharing their love of the art!@@K-ThORNz__is__Keith_Thorning

[@antivanti]

"If you're tryin to change the mix, masterin, you're snookered"

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, indeed

[@shane_taylor]

Fascinating!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@Producelikeapro]

Geoff is wonderful

[@gutekzpoligonu]

They still made the Sontec 432. Randy Staub has Sontec after SSL comp as pre-mastering as a final chain in His mixes and He also said that it's the best mastering EQ or EQ in general that was/will be ever made. . "The legend says" that sontec even in bypass, just to run it through, it just gives a song a something. More everything. IK multimedia has a pretty cool clone of the sontec but I guess not many plugin companies were trying to do it because without the hardware this time - THERE IS NO MAGIC. Like with Manley Massive Passive mastering EQ: You run with bypass and still it just push the vocals and snare with more presence and this beautyfull high top end. Thank's Warren for Another killer episode! PS. I would love to Hear Your sit up interview with Ted Jensen at Sterling Studio and just pick His brain. He is THE ONE in the mastering world and did a ton of my favorite records as a final touch.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for sharing!!

[@jdysontube]

Love your channel, any chance of looking at new order? Just amazes me what instruments are being played and how it’s all put together

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, we’ve already done one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6rdnGR9rNyobcU

[@yurrintinckelsonn812]

LAUFEY is putting her new Bewitched album out on limited release vinyl and I got one. Life is good. I'm obsessed with her music. Anyone else? I'm an old rocker and she turns me into mush. She is a SWOON QUEEN of epic proportions.

[@MaraldBes]

what a legend and awesome funny guy!

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed, wonderful guy and wonderfully humble

[@paulEmotionalaudio]

What an amazing guy. You couldn’t get more London if you tried. Almost directly out of Only Fools and Horses…..

[@LemonesqueStudio]

That was a brilliant watch. Bundles of great info in there. Don't know if it was the M25 accent but did make me wonder if Geoff Pesche had a mastering eng. son called Streaky.

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed the video! My guess is Streaky is only about 10 years younger than Geoff, that would be a very young father indeed! Ha

[@TheMentalblockrock]

I have a request! Can you go back at some point and have Geoff show the Abbey Road fully analogue record mastering suite please?? One that runs off a two head analogue tape machine and does not use digital delays anywhere in the signal path?

[@Producelikeapro]

Any excuse to go and do more with Geoff! He’s a national treasure, we had a blast hanging with him and talking music

[@markowalski1]

36:00 I'm all here for the technical 🙂

[@Producelikeapro]

It was marvellous to experience

[@drillbag]

What a mad geezer!! I'd love to work with this bloke

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! Very talented indeed

[@soundengineeringstudy]

FIRST! ON BEST CHANNEL ABOUT MUSIC

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you!

[@1849ad]

Meh, I thought I had a great turntable, but now I'm not so sure anymore... ;) Great video again Warren, but now I have to invest (again) in equipment!

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha I hear you! I’m continually learning and growing!

[@adrianwagner336]

i was hoping to hear his thoughts on linear tracking turntables to me it just makes more sense in 2 major ways...the actual tracking of the grooves seems to have to be more correct as well as the tone arm not being dragged across the record but following the grooves across the face of the record thereby reducing wear n tear on the record but i worry that i might just be justifying my getting into linear tracking...altho my current turntable was a gift lol but in any case thanks to both Warren and Geoff for a really interesting and edumicational way to spend an hour

[@Producelikeapro]

I do hope I can go back and talk to him so more! It was a lot of fun!

[@Cloud-xw8nk]

Amazing, very funny guy.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, humour is a powerful attribute indeed

[@soymartin07]

30:10 When I see that a record has been cut by Sean McGee I leave it where it was and look for something else. The last thing I bought was the 50th anniversary of Let It Bleed and when I put it on the record player the only thing I could think was that this man is deaf.

[@SimonLloydGuitar]

Nice 801's sitting t the back there. I've got the 802's of the same vintage. Wonderful speakers (as long as you have amps worthy enough)... Great to hear Geoff talking....sadly i think Loudness Wars killed everything.

[@SimonLloydGuitar]

45:44 Had to laugh here. Ive got a vintage Thorens TD160 Super, owned by Dad since new until it came to me. It was made in the early 80's.Looks and performs like brand new. (Thorens are Swiss though, not German).

[@djlajci]

TOP 👊🏻💫🥂❤

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you so much!

[@mynameistechno]

What does it take to make it sound good at the cutting stage? what we know: a good cutting head + stylus, a good master (obviously), a lot of power from amp section, a control cut... and thats it? i got some test cuts from various plants with a huge variety in quality. so what does it take to make it sound good?

[@Producelikeapro]

That’s an excellent question! I’ve had that exact same experience. The companies that have been in business for years have so much acquired knowledge and newer ones springing up are learning fast. The skill required in this creation process is huge!

[@davidtomsett]

Wise choice with the Thorens TD 160

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, indeed!

[@phillipemery572]

"It was donated." 🤣🤣🤣 Perks of working at awesome places.

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha indeed! Top of your game stuff!

[@polksalad77]

Wonderful, 1hr that felt more ike 10 mins.

[@Producelikeapro]

That’s wonderful to hear

[@andreirlmeier]

35:00 Made in Germany 🧐

[@zipnla]

I'm surprised there was no talk about room acoustics and treatment.

[@Producelikeapro]

When cutting vinyl? Ultimately Geoff has been working in this room for many years and knows it very, very well.

[@adamsteelproducer]

I think at abbey road that’s practically a given, so it’s not mentioned because it’s a fundamental basic!

[@Producelikeapro]

Very well said@@adamsteelproducer

[@analoguecity3454]

IS That the music sound waves on the computer???! 😮 Looks like a complete block! Brick walled within an inch of its life, what's the point??😮

[@Yourweakminds]

Remember that the audio source for this cutting machine is digital.

[@Producelikeapro]

Running through a ton of analog equipment before it hits it. However, he may also be running from Tape as well. It really does depend on what medium he has been given

[@1loveMusic2003]

I wonder how much that Lathe is worth $$$$$?

[@Producelikeapro]

oh gosh... the mind boggles

[@bennthirteen3701]

cd sounds better.

[@costelloandsilke7321]

Shocking that Mr Pesche hasn't got a clue about the massive number of factors that influence how turntable design influences reproduction. The view that a turntable just has to rotate the record at the correct speed and that the tonearm and cartridge are the critical factors became obsolete in the 1980s.

[@marxman00]

A lawn mower cuts grass ....do you use scissors ?

[@bonafontciel]

A must watch. 😊

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you!